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Switzerland Remains 'Extremely Attractive' For Pirate Sites, MPAA Says (torrentfreak.com)

While the European Union has worked hard to strengthen its copyright laws in recent years, one country in the heart of the continent chooses its own path. Switzerland is not part of the EU, which means that its policies deviate quite a bit from its neighbors. According to Hollywood, that's not helping creators. From a report: Responding to recent submission to the United States Trade Representative (USTR), the MPAA has identified several foreign "trade barriers" around the world. In Hollywood's case, many of these are related to piracy. One of the countries that's highlighted, in rather harsh terms, is Switzerland. According to the MPAA, the country's copyright law is "wholly inadequate" which, among other things, makes it "extremely attractive" to host illegal sites. "Switzerland's copyright law is wholly inadequate, lacking crucial mechanisms needed for enforcement in the digital era," MPAA writes. [...] The European country has plans to update its laws, but the proposed changes are not significant improvements, Hollywood's trade group notes.

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  1. So in other words... by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 4, Funny

    The allegation is that Swiss copyright laws are like their cheese?

    1. Re:So in other words... by arglebargle_xiv · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The allegation is that Switzerland hasn't bent over and lubed up for the MAFIAA like other countries have.

    2. Re:So in other words... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      No, not at all.
      The methods Hollywood uses to guarantee there are no profits are the same methods used by Switzerland to guarantee there are no copyrights.

    3. Re:So in other words... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      No, we adhere to copyright law. We just do not want to criminalize the entire population of our country for minor stuff and the legal system / prisons are non-profit.

  2. Good job by TimMD909 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Switzerland, if MPAA is your worst enemy, I'd have to say you're doing it right. Godspeed.

    1. Re:Good job by Spy+Handler · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Switzerland seems to be one of those rare oddball countries where the government actually works for the benefit of its citizens. Not the benefit of some other countries' citizens, or for the benefit of whoever gave out the most bribes to the politicians.

      Utterly shocking if you're from place with a corrupt government like the United States or the EU.

      Now before you liberals all go into rapture, note that the Swiss government will kick out illegal immigrants because they have determined (correctly) that having too many illegal immigrants does not benefit Swiss citizens.

    2. Re:Good job by Bert64 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Exactly, copyright law was intended to benefit society as a whole by encouraging creation of works with the notion that after a while these works would fall into the public domain for the benefit of all.
      Copyright now has become so corrupted that the benefit to the people is lost, by the time anything reaches the public domain all those who were around when it was created will be dead. It's not surprising that people are not keen to support such a system.

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  3. Clearly we must invade by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 3, Funny

    >> one country in the heart of the continent chooses its own path. Switzerland is not part of the EU, which means that its policies deviate quite a bit from its neighbors. According to Hollywood, that's not helping creators.

    Clearly we must invade. If only we could find someone with skill in mass media to develop a propaganda campaign.

    1. Re:Clearly we must invade by youngone · · Score: 5, Insightful

      According to Hollywood, that's not helping creators.

      Since when were copyright laws about helping creators?

  4. Gibraltar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    I guarantee Gibraltar is orders of magnitude more liberal with copyright. It’s a total free for all on everything and the government is happy to just play a long. The northern part of Cyprus too is a lawless area with a lot of pirate TV stuff.

    1. Re:Gibraltar by Gavagai80 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There's a huge difference between a lawless place, and a place with laws that are liberal with copyright. Switzerland is not the slightest bit lawless.

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  5. It's legal to download by rgbe · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's Switzerland (at least when I was last there) it's legal to download copyrighted material as long as you're not uploading it and you're using it for private purposes.

  6. Translation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Switzerland hasn't implemented the draconian copyright laws that we suckered the US and Canada into by painting them as the biggest sources of piracy, so we're going to paint Swiss people with the same brush.

  7. One word: Waaaaa. by dgatwood · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Even as a copyright holder myself, I recognize that copyright law in the United States is completely and utterly broken. Only in the United States could it make sense to have:

    • Standards bodies that create policies like "You can't show this content unless your equipment supports [insert random copy protection standard here]".
    • Copy protection that gets repeatedly rendered useless within months after it hits store shelves.
    • Buggy implementations that break when you connect certain pieces of equipment together (e.g. Mac Mini w/ Denon or Yamaha receivers).
    • Laws that make it illegal to crack those copy protection standards to make your equipment actually work the way it is supposed to work.
    • Consumers still willingly paying several dollars extra on every single device for the privilege of their equipment not working right and being rendered worthless two years later when the standards body decides that they have to come up with yet another copy protection standard.

    And if those media execs still think that HDCP is a good idea even after crazy mounds of evidence to the contrary, there's no way they'll *ever* be smart enough to realize just how stupid it is to waste time chasing after pirate sites. Stopping profit loss from piracy by going after pirate sites is the technological equivalent of trying to end world hunger by hiring fifty people to fly around the world, and, upon seeing a locust, land the plane, put on boots, and stomp it to death. You will never win that way. You will only look silly.

    If the huge drop in piracy after the rise of the iTunes Music Store taught us anything, it is that piracy is not caused predominantly by people being unwilling to spend money, but rather predominantly by content owners refusing to take it, and doing everything in their power to maintain tight control in ways that consumers can't deal with. If you create content that people want and make it available in a form that people are willing to pay for, they will do so. If you don't, they'll pirate it. And no new laws will ever change that, no matter how draconian. At best, you'll just force it further underground, where you can't track it or earn ad revenue from it.

    The cause of piracy problems isn't Switzerland, but rather the content distributors' unwillingness to work together to improve access to content, coupled with their irrational fear of allowing any single outlet to gain enough power to drive prices down to levels that consumers find reasonable. They need to quit looking for countries to blame and start looking in the mirror.

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  8. one good thing from trump by bloodhawk · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The one good thing to come from Trump. His harpooning of the various trade agreements which the MPAA had corrupted to their benefit are being systematically dismantled around the world, even the TPP which he pulled out of is now a much better agreement as with the US gone so too went all the insane copyright shit they were trying to force the rest of the world to swallow.

    1. Re:one good thing from trump by dryeo · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Unluckily he just put the copyright shit in NAFTA2, and he is planning lots more of the same as he isolates countries and pushes new trade deals.

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  9. Re:Good job... Real democracy by Fallen+Kell · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Switzerland seems to be one of those rare oddball countries where the government actually works for the benefit of its citizens. Not the benefit of some other countries' citizens, or for the benefit of whoever gave out the most bribes to the politicians.

    Utterly shocking if you're from place with a corrupt government like the United States or the EU.

    That is because Switzerland is a "direct democracy". You see, the people actually vote on things. All it takes is 50,000 citizens (or 8 of the elected politicians) to call for any recently enacted or changed laws to require a direct vote by the citizens (a simple majority yes/no vote). It makes it kind of hard for special interest groups with big pockets to get to all but 50,000 people in the country to prevent a direct vote.

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  10. Re:Good job... Real democracy by AmiMoJo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    On the other hand in 2009 they voted to include alternative medicine (i.e. pseudo-scientific snake oil) in the constitution. Maybe someone from Switzerland can say how much effect it has had; AIUI it was effectively nullified by the fact that politicians didn't change the rules on funding treatments to remove the "proven effective" requirement.

    Direct democracy can be great, but can also result in nonsense, so it's important to have strong checks and balances. Problem is that people get very upset if they vote for something a a check or balance frustrates it, e.g. Brexit.

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