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Tantalizing But Preliminary Evidence of a 'Brain Microbiome' (sciencemag.org)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Science Magazine: We know the menagerie of microbes in the gut has powerful effects on our health. Could some of these same bacteria be making a home in our brains? A poster presented here this week at the annual meeting of the Society for Neuroscience drew attention with high-resolution microscope images of bacteria apparently penetrating and inhabiting the cells of healthy human brains. The work is preliminary, and its authors are careful to note that their tissue samples, collected from cadavers, could have been contaminated. But to many passersby in the exhibit hall, the possibility that bacteria could directly influence processes in the brain -- including, perhaps, the course of neurological disease -- was exhilarating.

Talking hoarsely above the din of the exhibit hall on Tuesday evening, neuroanatomist Rosalinda Roberts of The University of Alabama in Birmingham (UAB), told attendees about a tentative finding that, if true, suggests an unexpectedly intimate relationship between microbes and the brain. Her lab looks for differences between healthy people and those with schizophrenia by examining slices of brain tissue preserved in the hours after death. About 5 years ago, neuroscientist Courtney Walker, then an undergraduate in Roberts's lab, became fascinated by unidentified rod-shaped objects that showed up in finely detailed images of these slices, captured with an electron microscope. Roberts had seen the shapes before. "But I just dismissed them, because I was looking for something else," she says. "I would say 'Oh, here are those things again.'" But Walker was persistent, and Roberts started to consult colleagues at UAB. This year, a bacteriologist gave her unexpected news: They were bacteria. Her team has now found bacteria somewhere in every brain they've checked -- 34 in all -- about half of them healthy, and half from people with schizophrenia.

65 comments

  1. Contamination by alvinrod · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The work is preliminary, and its authors are careful to note that their tissue samples, collected from cadavers, could have been contaminated.

    This seems like the type of thing they should try to verify before running around and shouting about possibilities. If it's true that this brain microbiome exists in humans, it's probably just as true of rats, or at least other primates. Get some live samples there before getting too excited.

    1. Re:Contamination by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agreed. After all what DO people expect microbes to do to dead cells?

    2. Re:Contamination by sgage · · Score: 4, Insightful

      They are trying to recruit people to research this. It is very important, and needs to be publicized, if only to refute it. But what is wrong with starting a conversation?

    3. Re:Contamination by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It was a poster session at an annual conference. Very appropriate place for preliminary results which may never pan out to be presented and discussed.

    4. Re:Contamination by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      After all what DO people expect microbes to do to dead cells?

      Re-animate them.

    5. Re:Contamination by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      Conversations are bad when they involve thoughts. I don't give conversation I give dictation, the greatest, the greatest dictation I'm telling you it's the greatest.

    6. Re:Contamination by clovis · · Score: 5, Informative

      Whoever wrote the Slashdot summary should have taken the few seconds to read the abstract they linked to. From that abstract, here's the author's claim regarding contamination.

      To eliminate the possibility that the presence of bacteria was due to contamination, we examined germ free mouse brains (n=4) processed in an identical way; we did not detect any bacteria. The observation that the location of the bacteria was highly specific and deep within the specimens also argues against contamination. Interestingly, there were no structural signs of inflammation in any of the brains examined. It is presently unclear the route of entry bacteria take to the brain, but the evidence of them in axons and at the blood brain barrier supports previous speculation.

    7. Re:Contamination by fredrated · · Score: 0

      When Jonny was asked to form a sentence using the word dictate: "My girlfriend say, my dic tate good".

    8. Re:Contamination by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Go back to bed, Donald.

    9. Re:Contamination by SuricouRaven · · Score: 0

      Plenty is wrong with starting a conversation. When presenting a new claim, the claim may persist in popular awareness even after it has been shown to be false - just look how anti-vax views endure long after Wakefield was revealed to be a fraud. The authors have made it clear that their findings are only preliminary, and they were unable to find any bacteria in mouse brains, but I wouldn't be surprised if we start seeing some quacks selling 'boost your brain biome' products in a few months.

    10. Re: Contamination by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can't be blamed for others ignorance, if I start a conversation and others aren't skeptical, it's not my fault.

      I won't be silenced!

    11. Re:Contamination by demon+driver · · Score: 1

      So you think preliminary results shouldn't be published just because someone might exploit them for profit, using false pretenses? While publishing them might help or even be necessary to fund further reasearch on the subject?

      In the economic system we live under, there will always be people trying to profit from anything, but should that really hamper science?

    12. Re:Contamination by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      If true, I'm curious as to why mouse brains wouldn't have the same kind of bacterial presence as the human brains. This seems like something that should not be unique to humans.

    13. Re:Contamination by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How else would they get their grant money? It's not like their field leads to AGW scaremongering.

    14. Re:Contamination by gweihir · · Score: 2

      Not in an age were every preliminary grande claim gets funding, while solid, slow and often boring, but long-term hugely profitable research gets overlooked...

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    15. Re:Contamination by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 2

      Whoever wrote the Slashdot summary should have taken the few seconds

      Dang, with that low ID I can't make the "new around here" jokes ...

    16. Re: Contamination by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then you don't understand how academia works. Publishing findings like this, which amount to "We saw X while investigating Y. We didn't pursue but it seems important" is what enables other researchers to put together a case for grant money to start an actual investigation.

      The scientists that published this probably would have loved to spend time investigating it, but they were working on schizophrenia, and their grant funding can't be used to study something else.

    17. Re:Contamination by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They did find bacteria in mouse brains. They didn't in strains of mice specifically bred & handled to be bacteria free; this suggests the bacteria were not a result of contamination.

    18. Re:Contamination by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mice aren't force users and so don't have midichlorians like humans and other force-sensitive species do.

    19. Re:Contamination by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      "Roberts wondered whether bacteria from the gut could have leaked from blood vessels into the brain in the hours between a person’s death and the brain’s removal. So she looked at healthy mouse brains, which were preserved immediately after the mice were killed. More bacteria. Then she looked at the brains of germ-free mice, which are carefully raised to be devoid of microbial life. They were uniformly clean."

    20. Re:Contamination by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did you read the abstract in detail? At thie bottom it says:

      To address the possibility that the bacteria in human tissue was a result of postmortem artifact, we examined mouse brains that were fixed immediately at death (n=10); there were abundant bacteria in similar intracellular locations. To eliminate the possibility that the presence of bacteria was due to contamination, we examined germ free mouse brains (n=4) processed in an identical way; we did not detect any bacteria.

    21. Re:Contamination by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree, flooding the internet with more fake news is all this amounts too.

    22. Re:Contamination by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What if they found that only Republicans had bacteria swimming around in their brain?

    23. Re:Contamination by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mice aren't force users and so don't have midichlorians like humans and other force-sensitive species do.

      Thank you.

    24. Re:Contamination by Areyoukiddingme · · Score: 1

      Whoever wrote the Slashdot summary should have taken the few seconds

      Dang, with that low ID I can't make the "new around here" jokes ...

      Oh you can. When it's that low of an ID, you can make it ironically.

  2. In the Brain but not in the Brain? by rtb61 · · Score: 2

    Got to be careful, they might well be in the brain technically ie in the blood vessels in the brain but they might not be actually in the brain. If they show up in the most in the regions with the highest blood flow, that would tend to favour them being in the blood vessels in the brain and not in the brain itself. The route into the brain, well, that should be obvious, any concussion that generates a haemorrhage, allowing infected blood to enter brain fluid. The frontal cortex would of course be the area must subject to impacts and bleeding and as a result breaching the blood brain barrier.

    So say that one small car accident, where you get a bit of a bump and a bit of brain blood leaking but you have a particular minor infection at that time. You could imagine that contagion spreading amongst families with a history of violence, all those blows to the head, allowing more chances for infection.

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    1. Re:In the Brain but not in the Brain? by sgage · · Score: 1

      Yes, all this stuff needs to be examined and studied and elucidated. But first the question has to be posed, that's all.

      You call it an 'infection', and maybe it is, maybe it isn't. Any more than your guts are 'infected' with dozens of species of bacteria.

      If you are working in the field, go for it!

    2. Re:In the Brain but not in the Brain? by Ostracus · · Score: 1

      Football players and boxers with a greater history of violence.

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    3. Re:In the Brain but not in the Brain? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Warning: You may have a huge, invisible spider living in your skull. THIS IS NOT A METAPHOR.

      You will dismiss this as ridiculous fear-mongering. Dismissing things as ridiculous fear-mongering is, in fact, the first symptom of parasitic spider infection -- the creature stimulates skepticism, in order to prevent you from seeking a cure. That's just as well, since the "cure" involves learning what a chainsaw tastes like. You can't feel the spider, because it controls your nerve endings. You won't even feel it when it breeds. And it will breed..."

        This Book Is Full of Spiders

    4. Re:In the Brain but not in the Brain? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Regarding your post, read this.
      https://abstractsonline.com/pp...

  3. You get a microbiome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    You get a microbiome!
    You get a microbiome!
    Everybody gets a microbiome!

  4. A cure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A new brain disease has been discovered. The race is on for a cure.

  5. Knock Knock by Gabest · · Score: 1

    I am 40% bacteria.

  6. Re:Check by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Their entire existence is embodied fecal particles.

  7. No surprise by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 4, Funny

    Of course there are microscopic life forms living in our brains. Without them, how would people be able to harness the power of The Force?

    1. Re:No surprise by gweihir · · Score: 1

      I do not share your perverted idea of the Star Wars universe!

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    2. Re:No surprise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You just HAD to go there.

      DAMN YOU older George Lucas!

  8. Re: Check by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Check n1ggers for nigglino particles.

  9. Re:Check by h33t+l4x0r · · Score: 1

    Bacillus Deploribus

  10. Libs with the Tard virus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    always vote democrat.

  11. Re: Check by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sure, but check your mom for 'em first.

  12. Good, science as it should be by jd · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Present a hypothesis to explain new data, then test that hypothesis by falsification.

    Showing that there are alternatives is good and correct.

    Misunderstanding by non-scientists merely shows schools do not teach people correctly. That's not the scientists' problem.

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    1. Re:Good, science as it should be by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Let me add another hypothesis here.

      That contamination not only could be the reason for some types of mental diseases ... it also could be the source for some "creativity". Think about it ... if the brains work more or less in the same way, the "external" brain factors could be the reason people can have different points of view about the same issues. ... but how? ... well, maybe the electrical paths could be interfered and a particular signal could arrive with a slightly modified value.

    2. Re:Good, science as it should be by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 2

      Present a hypothesis to explain new data, then test that hypothesis by falsification.

      Hold your horses cowboy. You are talking to non scientific crowd. They have already forwarded your statements via twitter and facebook, "Science advances by falsifying data! Science proponent open admits it and is proud of it!"

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    3. Re:Good, science as it should be by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      FINALLY! Now we know why liberals are sick in the head. Hopefully a cure can be found before it is too late.

  13. Science is verification and falsification by jd · · Score: 1

    However, one should never validate one's own work. You're going to introduce subconscious bias. Same reason you should never test your own code.

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    1. Re:Science is verification and falsification by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's retarded, you should definitely test your own code.

  14. So when I call you a shit head by fredrated · · Score: 0

    I'm being accurate?

  15. Time for samples from some brain surgeons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    As long as they are poking around in there, have the headcutters them grab a small biopsy for the study. Get samples across a larger age range of living subjects taken in a controlled manner.

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  17. Sure but it sounds a bit fishy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bacteria tend to divide infinitely as long as they are not limited by the environment :
    1) nutrient absence
    2) attacks from immune system
    3) attacks from other competing entities bacteriophages

    (1) is probably not the case (2) there is the microglia and the blood brain barrier and (3) would mean we missed a lot more than a few bacteria. That would require a high standard of evidence that this was not post mortem a contagion... So why would those bacteria not reproduce ad nauseam if they managed to bypass 2 and 3 ?

  18. Are you knew here? by Viol8 · · Score: 1

    This is slashdot, even the article posters often don't read the articles they link to, never mind people who simply want to get max points for 1st post!

    1. Re:Are you knew here? by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 1

      never mind people who simply want to get max points for 1st post!

      You mean the editors?

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      You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike.
  19. Schizophrenia link by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Recent studies have reported some link between schizophrenia and gut microbiota, maybe this could be part of relation.

  20. Virus that makes you like cat, cat urine smell. by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Toxoplasma Gondii is a virus with fascinating life cycle. It matures and reproduces deep in a cat's gut, but its eggs hatch inside mice bodies. Mice coming in contact cat urine, feces, get infected and they lose the fear of cats and they start liking the smell of cats and thus get eaten by the cat. Thus allowing the virus to reach where it can reproduce for the next generation.

    This virus infects humans too. They become very fond of cats, cat smells.

    So we know there are viruses (or virii?) that live in brain without causing too serious immediate damage. So why not bacteria?

    In some sense our bodies are symbiotic collections of individual cells.

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    1. Re:Virus that makes you like cat, cat urine smell. by DigiShaman · · Score: 1

      That's one helluva symbiotic relationship.

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    2. Re:Virus that makes you like cat, cat urine smell. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A virus that produces eggs? That IS fascinating... not

      It's a parasitic organism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apicomplexa, not a virus

    3. Re:Virus that makes you like cat, cat urine smell. by Gilgaron · · Score: 2

      That's not a virus, but a single-celled eukaryotic parasite with what would be considered spores or cysts, rather than eggs. Those kinds of organisms have an easier time of going where they please in the body, because they can force their way through some tissues. Viruses would have to go up the nerve fibers to get into the brain, as far as I am aware. Bacteria are kept out by the blood brain barrier, and generally cause inflammation wherever they do end up; this is why bacteria in the brain are surprising, as inflammation there usually presents some adverse symptomology.

    4. Re:Virus that makes you like cat, cat urine smell. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      virii

      Moron detected, adding to ignore list.

    5. Re:Virus that makes you like cat, cat urine smell. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      " This virus infects humans too. They become very fond of cats, cat smells. "

      That's not proven.

  21. Noooooo!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So George Lucas was right about the midichlorians?

    Dammit.

  22. Rick Grimes was right!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We're all infected.

  23. That's Funny by q4Fry · · Score: 2

    The most important words in scientific progress: "Hmm, that's funny."