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Mark Zuckerberg 'Not Able' To Attend International Disinformation Hearing (cnet.com)

Posted by BeauHD on from the return-to-sender dept.

Mark Zuckerberg is "not able" to attend a joint disinformation hearing in London, Facebook says. "In a letter to the UK's Digital, Culture, Media and Sport Committee, the company declined to say why Zuckerberg couldn't attend, but said it remains 'happy to cooperate' with the inquiry," reports CNET. "The letter also laid out some of the efforts Facebook has made over the last year in areas like fighting fake news and striving for transparency in political ads." From the report: Damian Collins, chair of the committee, is leading the charge and noted that the social network's response is "hugely disappointing." "The fact that he has continually declined to give evidence, not just to my committee, but now to an unprecedented international grand committee, makes him look like he's got something to hide," he said in an emailed statement."

Facebook declined the initial invitation from the British and Canadian politicians in October, prompting them to send another with additional signatures from their Argentinian, Australian and Irish counterparts. This came after Zuckerberg turned down a spring invitation to give evidence to the UK Parliament about Facebook's role in the Cambridge Analytica data scandal, since he'd already answered questions from the European Union's Parliament and the U.S. Congress.

80 comments

  1. He's too busy by DaveM753 · · Score: 4, Informative

    ...spreading disinformation.

    1. Re:He's too busy by ausekilis · · Score: 1

      "Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups" - George Carlin

      And now those groups are bigger and better connected. Just look at the persistence of this whole anti-vaccination nonsense that stirs up every year or two.

    2. Re:He's too busy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      don't be a sucker, his inability to attend is the disinformation, he's not too busy, even with all the disinformation that he is spreading.

      in before fnord.

  2. Mark Zuckerberg "not able" to fake human norms by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Zuck's a cunt, not a man.

    1. Re:Mark Zuckerberg "not able" to fake human norms by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Zuck's a cuck...

  3. Really? by zippo01 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Mark Zuckerberg and Facebook are disinformation. The more I read and hear about "social media" the more I agree with other that it's been more of a hindrance to society then anything. All it's done is make a handful of people rich off of other peoples suffering and privacy.

    1. Re:Really? by alvinrod · · Score: 1, Interesting

      That's a fair assessment, but no one forced anyone to sign up for a Facebook or Twitter account. It might sound well and good to ban them or something like that, but then I'd have to ask why you're not doing the same about other "hindrances to society" which might even include a few things that one or both of us enjoy. As much as you might wish to, you can't really legislate good decision making.

    2. Re: Really? by Type44Q · · Score: 1

      As much as you might wish to, you can't really legislate good decision making.

      No, but Zuckerberg can still be punched in his ridiculously-ugly face.

      Just saying.

    3. Re:Really? by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      While I agree. it is off topic.

      The media talking as if it is normal for US business owners to travel overseas to meet with haters is itself disinformation.

      Of course "social media" is a hindrance to society, and of course Whathisface isn't going to show up at Foreignplace.

    4. Re:Really? by squiggleslash · · Score: 1

      By "US business owners" you mean "American owners of businesses that operate in the UK', and by "haters" you mean "Parliament, the British legislature which is investigating how the aforementioned business was part of a campaign to undermine British democracy by ensuring the most important British constitutional decision in four decades would be undermined by misinformation."

      Zuck chooses to have Facebook operate in the UK. As long as he does, he's responsible for what it Facebook does there. And there's absolutely nothing wrong with his actions being questioned by Parliament. How DARE YOU suggest that his behavior in avoiding parliamentary scrutiny is anything other than cowardly, irresponsible, and contemptuous of democracy and the rule of law.

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    5. Re:Really? by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      They have zero interest in having a constructive discussion with Zuck. They just want him to show up so they can shit all over him while grandstanding on TV. Why should he volunteer to accept their abuse?

    6. Re:Really? by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      They have a local business entity that operates in the UK.

    7. Re:Really? by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Mark Zuckerberg and Facebook are disinformation. The more I read and hear about "social media" the more I agree with other that it's been more of a hindrance to society then anything.

      Exactly, we need to shutdown platforms that are used by people to speak. That will fix the problem.

      I'm no fan of Facebook but to attack Facebook specifically for the spread of disinformation is utterly ludicrous given that they do not create any content themselves. The solution to this problem is not censorship by closing down avenues of wide spread speech.

    8. Re:Really? by squiggleslash · · Score: 1

      I have zero interest in having a constructive discussion with you as you clearly are just interested in "shitting all over" those investigating Facebook's behavior in Britain while grandstanding on Slashdot about it.

      You are obviously just as contemptuous of democracy and the rule of law as Zuck is.

      This isn't a debate and it doesn't matter whether British politicians are angry at Facebook or not. The fact is Facebook was the key to a major disinformation campaign that has caused severe damage to Britain and its constitution. Zuck MUST cooperate with the relevant authorities investigating it. If he doesn't, then Britain should, and must, take strong action against Facebook, including seizing their British assets and preventing them from operating in the UK.

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    9. Re:Really? by fibonacci8 · · Score: 1

      Exactly, we need to shutdown platforms that are used by people to speak.

      We need to regulate platforms that decide which people speak, and which words are allowed to be spoken. "Safe Harbors" don't alter the messages they transport, or rearrange them, or change the recipients. Facebook appears to be doing those things, rather than simply being "used by people to speak". Thus the investigation.

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    10. Re:Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mark Zuckerberg and Facebook are disinformation. The more I read and hear about "social media" the more I agree with other that it's been more of a hindrance to society then anything. All it's done is make a handful of people rich off of other peoples suffering and privacy.

      Governments regulating the spread of information... sounds great where do I sign up?

    11. Re:Really? by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Facebook appears to be doing those things, rather than simply being "used by people to speak". Thus the investigation.

      Causality fail. Facebook started doing those things in response to investigations of the use of their platform for anyone to speak.

      Remember ultimately what Facebook is: A social network. Social networks are built in a similar way on such a site as they are in real life causing group think between people of common interests. It's not Facebook spreading those messages, it's people who already believe those messages, and people who would spread them in real life as well.

  4. In on the game... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    yes he is!

  5. My formal apology by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    (see subject)

    I am truly sorry. I posted too many off-topic posts. Made threats that I now regret. And harassed all of /. for the past week over trivial matters. I've hit rock bottom as a ne'er-do-well. I will be eternally grateful If slashdotters have it their heart to forgive me.

    The true full story of what happened is simple. My anti-psychotics were mixed up with Flintstone® Vitamins®. I have been undermedicated for two months. My psychiatrist has replaced my prescription and I'm back on track for recovery. Please wish me well.

    APK

    P.S. => I realize now that I didn't invent buffer overflow mitigation for C++. I humbly admit that I have much more to learn as a programmer... and as a person.

    1. Re:My formal apology by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      Thank you for the apology. That's all I asked for. Take care and get well soon!

      ZIP

      P.S. => Now let's get these jerks that are using your name making fake posts

  6. Zach Patterson / ZIP "Greatest Hits" (lol, not) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    See how STUPID "ZIP" (Zach Patterson) the CHIMP is (tried to take credit for what I solved before him) https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... (he needs to LEARN TO READ)!

    I even SHOW ways to do it YOURSELF https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... (he couldn't).

    Delphi/FreePascal/ObjectPascal HAS no issue w/ null-term'd string bufferoverflows - C does, C++ can UNLESS you do what I said 1st loser.

    Tell us about CODE SIGNING (which has been STOLEN & ABUSED) https://www.helpnetsecurity.co... MY METHOD CAN'T BE (upmodded +2 INTERESTING in CODING FOR DEFCON no less) https://it.slashdot.org/commen...

    "I'm a much better programmer than APK" - by Anonymous Coward ZIP on Monday October 08, 2018 @11:27PM (#57449082) FROM https://yro.slashdot.org/comme...

    BIG TALK - Yet ZIP has nothing to show in programs. I can https://news.slashdot.org/comm... from registered /.ers liking/using/praising my work (& 100k users worldwide too). He can't.

    LIAR ZIP says he has no account "I don't have an account, so I don't have mod points" https://news.slashdot.org/comm...

    Yet LIAR ZIP says he downmods my posts (IMPOSSIBLE MINUS AN ACCOUNT on /.): "I down-modded a few of your post on other threads" - by Anonymous Coward "ZIP" on Thursday October 11, 2018 @11:31AM (#57461058) FROM https://yro.slashdot.org/comme...

    APK

    P.S.=> KEEP IMPERSONATING ME CHIMP - this comes out every time, lol!... apk

    1. Re:Zach Patterson / ZIP "Greatest Hits" (lol, not) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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  7. New euphemism? by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Is "not able to attend" the new phrase for "doesn't want to attend"?

    [ Asking for various Secret Service agents in Paris. :-) ]

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    It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
    1. Re:New euphemism? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      "Unfortunately, the President will be not able to attend Federal Prison..."

    2. Re:New euphemism? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The EU can get pretty hard-assed about things the US doesn't even know about. Zuckerberg is probably afraid of getting cuffed right off the plane and charged with being a spying social bad person.

  8. I hate /. bullies like ZIP & c6gunner... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    See subject: I'm so sick & tired of /. BULLIES. You shitweasels have nothing better to do than HARASS, STALK & IMPERSONATE little ol' me. I've done absolutely NOTHING wrong & just try to make everyone's lives better w/ my work that stops ads & malware.

    * As soon as I post, I'm CENSORED to -1 w/ ABUSED downmodpoints by bullies like ZIP, who even admit to this. I caught c6gunner mocking then IMPERSONATING me when he forgot to log out. Zontar mailed me a postcard w/ THREATS on it, then LIES & STALKS me. All because you JEALOUS JOWIE "ne'er-do-wells" KNOW I'm World-Class & you're shit. It's why you hide behind FAKE names & UNIDENTIFIABLE ANONYMOUS.

    I'm even improving my already GREAT PHYSIQUE by getting calf implants while you weezils sit around all day on /. STALKING & HARASSING your BETTERS. I repeatedly dust the no-mind bullshit blatherings you BULLIES post to attack me. Like always I WIN & YOU LOSE.

    APK

    P.S.=> This BULLYING of me is SO UNFAIR & is probably a HATE CRIME because I'm gay. GROW UP... apk

  9. Zach Patterson / ZIP "Greatest Hits" (lol, not) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    See how STUPID "ZIP" (Zach Patterson) the CHIMP is (tried to take credit for what I solved before him) https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... (he needs to LEARN TO READ)!

    I even SHOW ways to do it YOURSELF https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... (he couldn't).

    Delphi/FreePascal/ObjectPascal HAS no issue w/ null-term'd string bufferoverflows - C does, C++ can UNLESS you do what I said 1st loser.

    Tell us about CODE SIGNING (which has been STOLEN & ABUSED) https://www.helpnetsecurity.co... MY METHOD CAN'T BE (upmodded +2 INTERESTING in CODING FOR DEFCON no less) https://it.slashdot.org/commen...

    "I'm a much better programmer than APK" - by Anonymous Coward ZIP on Monday October 08, 2018 @11:27PM (#57449082) FROM https://yro.slashdot.org/comme...

    BIG TALK - Yet ZIP has nothing to show in programs. I can https://news.slashdot.org/comm... from registered /.ers liking/using/praising my work (& 100k users worldwide too). He can't.

    LIAR ZIP says he has no account "I don't have an account, so I don't have mod points" https://news.slashdot.org/comm...

    Yet LIAR ZIP says he downmods my posts (IMPOSSIBLE MINUS AN ACCOUNT on /.): "I down-modded a few of your post on other threads" - by Anonymous Coward "ZIP" on Thursday October 11, 2018 @11:31AM (#57461058) FROM https://yro.slashdot.org/comme...

    APK

    P.S.=> KEEP IMPERSONATING ME CHIMP - this comes out every time, lol!... apk

  10. Re: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    They should lock him up next to Trump. Frauds.

  11. ZIP = "better programmer" (lol, not) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    You said it ZIP: So where's your work everyone can see/use? It's not. It's HOTAIRWARE/NOTWARE (lol) "I'm a much better programmer than APK" - by Anonymous Coward ZIP on Monday October 08, 2018 @11:27PM (#57449082) FROM https://yro.slashdot.org/comme... ?

    The BETTER PROGRAMMER w/ no programs, lol - @ least you can say your "code" has NO BUGS - of course, it also does ZERO (like you) since it does nothing @ all, lol!

    You hotair BLOWHARD talker, lol!

    You f'd up ZIP https://tech.slashdot.org/comm...

    Yet 100,000++ users of my ware & dozens of even REGISTERED /.ers like/use/praise MY work https://news.slashdot.org/comm... vs. your HOTAIR talk punk!

    * LMAO!

    (Let's see how YOU take it when I publicly SHIT ALL OVER YOU by letting FACTS of YOUR FUCKUPS vs. ME https://science.slashdot.org/c... do the job for me)

    APK

    P.S.=> You STUPID & LAZY all talk chimpanzee... apk

    1. Re: ZIP = "better programmer" (lol, not) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      Now that Richard Simmons is dead, apk is here to replace him as the gayest dude on the planet.

    2. Re: ZIP = "better programmer" (lol, not) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't talk programming when you have none. That was stupid ZIP/Zach. You can't back your bullshit. You impersonated apk for years! Much more the past month. You obviously don't like a dose of your own medicine used on you. Now you get what you paid for. Serves you right. Not fun taking medicine you yourself dished out. You dish it out but you can't take it and your reactions prove it. Makes us all laugh. Poetic Justice

    3. Re: ZIP = "better programmer" (lol, not) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Poetic Justice

      Looks more like a page off TMZ. But don't worry, the general public thinks programmers are mostly screwy immature prima donas anyway, so no harm done as far as the world on the street cares.

    4. Re: ZIP = "better programmer" (lol, not) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have to give apk credit. He backs up what he says https://news.slashdot.org/comm... ;letting us slashdotters do it for him. ZIP can't despite shooting off his mouth he is a better programmer but blew it against apk on that too hahaha https://tech.slashdot.org/comm...

  12. Would you go? by BringsApples · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Why would anyone go sit around being grilled, if they didn't HAVE to? Seems totally unreasonable to me. I wouldn't go either - sitting around, looking like a dick.

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    1. Re:Would you go? by Phil+Urich · · Score: 1

      And to the U.K., of all places. It's not like they have a huge amount of international sway these days. I'm no fan of Zuckerberg, but it's honestly not entirely unreasonable of him to decline this. Particularly when the U.K. has not been, shall we say, a particularly adroit negotiator with other power structures.

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    2. Re:Would you go? by Frobnicator · · Score: 2

      Agreed. He gets no benefit to attending. Even if he has an ideal performance on camera and everything works in his favor, his statements will still be misquoted, pulled out of context, twisted by many groups to fit their own agendas. More likely and typical, there will be small slips and gaffes which will appear on camera, and each one will be replayed in detail by anyone who dislikes him or the company.

      He has nothing to gain, and potentially quite a lot to lose. If he is compelled to attend and give testimony he would do best to be boring, and deflect/minimize questions as being advised not to answer them.

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    3. Re:Would you go? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And learning how to grin

    4. Re:Would you go? by serviscope_minor · · Score: 2

      I wouldn't go either - sitting around, looking like a dick.

      It's Zuckerberg: he looks like a dick whatever he does. So I guess it's the sitting around he objects to?

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    5. Re:Would you go? by techno-vampire · · Score: 1

      ...deflect/minimize questions as being advised not to answer them.

      I don't know what protections against self-incrimination British Law provides or how broad they are. However, here in the USofA, they are only absolute in a court of law, or when being questioned during an investigation by law enforcement. That's why suspects must be read their rights before being formally questioned so that they don't incriminate themselves because they don't know enough about the law to know that they don't have to. (I gather that the police only have to read you your rights if they consider you a suspect, so if yoeu're ever questioned and thy don't, you can reasonably presume that you're currently not a suspect. And, if I read TFA correctly, this is not a formal judicial proceeding, the committee is not obligated in any way, shape or form to avoid taking his refusals into account which means that if he does have something to hide (and I'm sure he does) refusal to answer any questions ask just allow his questioners to assume that things are as bad as they want. And last, remember that IANAL so ICBW.

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    6. Re:Would you go? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wouldn't go either - sitting around, being a dick.

      FTFY.

    7. Re:Would you go? by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      Yeah, if they wanted me to sit through that nonsense they'd have to grant me a fancy title first.

      I'll bet if they named Zucky Lord Protector he'd show up right away.

    8. Re:Would you go? by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      I wouldn't go either - sitting around, looking like a dick.

      It's Zuckerberg: he looks like a dick whatever he does. So I guess it's the sitting around he objects to?

      Now, now, he may be the anti-Christ, and an evil fuckhead besides, but lets not resort to body-shaming.

    9. Re:Would you go? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      SO tell us about the firm US negotiations with Saudi Arabia, you know the country where the actual 9/11 terrorists came from.

      And here is another thought, the rest of the world (you know the other 96% of the worlds population) sees how US people, and US corporations treat even their allies with contempt.

      No the USA is NOT too important or too big to fail.
      The other side of the coin "USA first" is "USA last"

    10. Re:Would you go? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some of the things his company is accused of including data and privacy breaches allow for him as an executive to be held personally culpable from a legal standpoint.

      To spin the question round, why shouldn't these countries throw the book at him if he can't even be bothered to attend, and talk like an adult about how he can rectify his company's mistakes?

      A large reason these committees exist is to examine whether there is anything that can be done at a mutual level to try and solve a problem before having to go through the expensive, tricky, and time consuming effort of either enforcing existing law, or writing new law. If someone can't be bothered to attend the likely impact is that they will throw the book at them and their company, and will see no reason to work with a company that won't work with them. Furthermore, it also decreases their lobbying power.

      So when Facebook starts lobbying against new tax laws that are inevitable against tax avoiding tax giants, why should governments listen to him? If his company is found to be criminally culpable for legal breaches on tax, data privacy, or other laws, why should governments not throw the book at him personally and put out an arrest and extradition warrant?

      There's a naive view here sometimes that the world is black and white, that you're either breaking the law or your not and that's the entire basis of governments, corporations, and people. It's not true of course, most people realise that the law should really be a last resort, and that's ultimately what these hearings are for - a chance to sort things out amicably and like adults, and sure, the courts, and the ability for governments to legislate are there as an option, but it's an expensive option that uses tax payers money that should be avoided if possible because no one likes new legislation, but can be used if necessary.

      So next time we get stories about new taxes on social media companies, or new laws enforcing privacy; don't bitch at governments for do it, bitch at twats like Zuckerberg for not using the opportunity he had to come to a more amicable or neutral agreement because he wasn't enough of an adult to speak to other adults.

    11. Re:Would you go? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agreed. He gets no benefit to attending.

      That assumes that there will be no further action as a result of him not showing up.

      This is him being reactive rather than proactive.
      He doesn't intend to do jack shit until EU decides to do something he can't ignore.
      (Like stopping European advertisers from using Facebook or blocking all Facebook traffic.)

    12. Re:Would you go? by The+Cynical+Critic · · Score: 1

      That's what I was thinking... Why bother when it's beyond obvious that it's really nothing beyond an opportunity for politicians to do some grandstanding? Because that's what happens whenever the executives of a company in the midst of a scandal is asked to come testify before a panel of politicians.

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      "Why should I want to make anything up? Life's bad enough as it is without wanting to invent any more of it."
    13. Re:Would you go? by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      It's Zuckerberg: he looks like a dick whatever he does.

      True as that may be it doesn't mean he should flaunt it in front of the camera having every word and action carefully analysed.

      If I were a dick I wouldn't go to a public hearing where everyone is against me either, I'd put on a hoddie and go be a dick in the local bar while claiming I am someone else.

    14. Re:Would you go? by coofercat · · Score: 2

      EU governments are generally circling around US internet companies that don't pay much tax in the EU. They're going to be all the more motivated to make FBs life difficult if FB doesn't co-operate with them.

      That said, I probably wouldn't go either, but it'll turn into a PR problem for FB if they keep ducking these sorts of things.

    15. Re:Would you go? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So next time we get stories about new taxes on social media companies, or new laws enforcing privacy; don't bitch at governments for do it, bitch at twats like Zuckerberg for not using the opportunity he had to come to a more amicable or neutral agreement because he wasn't enough of an adult to speak to other adults.

      Why would anyone bitch about those things? They seem like things that most people would actually welcome, with the possible exception of deluded "Invisible-Hand"inistas.

    16. Re:Would you go? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Aside from the location being in the UK, this meeting is an international one with multiple countries attending such as stated in the summary: UK, Canada, Argentina, Australia and Ireland.

      As for why he should be going, its damage control and he should be doing alot of it. There is clearly a negative sentiment in the world against FB, from their mishandling of personal information, leaky API's, and enabling racist behavior (allowing people to target ads based on racial traits) to allowing anyone to buy any kind of advertisement with out any sort of fact checking or standards for truth or responsible parties.

      At this point it has nothing to do with different governments and everything to do with the court of public opinion, he is being called to these meetings because all of the "fixes" that he has lauded out after each one of these events has been lackluster in its ability to solve the problems at hand and we just keep getting reports of more of the same problem. So, either Mr Zuckerberg starts doing damage control and gets his engineers to produce actual solutions, or his company continues to suffer in the court of public opinion until a competitor manages to gain enough critical mass to put him out of his misery.

    17. Re:Would you go? by ausekilis · · Score: 1

      sitting around, looking like Data from Star Trek.

      Fixed that for you

      You're missing the point of being a CEO. He is also the face and spokesman for his company - it is up to him to come to its defense and uphold its reputation. If there is a risk of legal action or damage to the business, you get your ass on that plane, answer questions and spread the word about the great things you're doing.

      Apples stock would take nose-dives when news of Jobs' health was declining - whether it was true or not.

      Ballmer's hot-headedness and throwing of chairs is the stuff of legend now and painted MS as the wanna-be crybaby phone maker it was. It only needed to happen once.

  13. TRUMP SAYS, "WHERE'S MY BIG RED BUTTON DAMMIT!" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    And everyone at the WH scurries around like a bunch of cockroaches making sure he doesn't find it!

    1. Re:TRUMP SAYS, "WHERE'S MY BIG RED BUTTON DAMMIT!" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      ORANGE MAN BAD

  14. Busy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes, he was busy doing those stupid 'portal' commercials. Seriously? so unprofessional, almost like he's never had a job before...

  15. I hate /. bullies like ZIP & c6gunner... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    See subject: I'm so sick & tired of /. BULLIES. You shitweasels have nothing better to do than HARASS, STALK & IMPERSONATE little ol' me. I've done absolutely NOTHING wrong & just try to make everyone's lives better w/ my work that stops ads & malware.

    * As soon as I post, I'm CENSORED to -1 w/ ABUSED downmodpoints by bullies like ZIP, who even admit to this. I caught c6gunner mocking then IMPERSONATING me when he forgot to log out. Zontar mailed me a postcard w/ THREATS on it, then LIES & STALKS me. All because you JEALOUS JOWIE "ne'er-do-wells" KNOW I'm World-Class & you're shit. It's why you hide behind FAKE names & UNIDENTIFIABLE ANONYMOUS.

    I'm even improving my already GREAT PHYSIQUE by getting calf implants while you weezils sit around all day on /. STALKING & HARASSING your BETTERS. I repeatedly dust the no-mind bullshit blatherings you BULLIES post to attack me. Like always I WIN & YOU LOSE.

    APK

    P.S.=> This BULLYING of me is SO UNFAIR & is probably a HATE CRIME because I'm gay. GROW UP... apk

  16. ZIP = "better programmer" (lol, not) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    You said it ZIP: So where's your work everyone can see/use? It's not. It's HOTAIRWARE/NOTWARE (lol) "I'm a much better programmer than APK" - by Anonymous Coward ZIP on Monday October 08, 2018 @11:27PM (#57449082) FROM https://yro.slashdot.org/comme... ?

    The BETTER PROGRAMMER w/ no programs, lol - @ least you can say your "code" has NO BUGS - of course, it also does ZERO (like you) since it does nothing @ all, lol!

    You hotair BLOWHARD talker, lol!

    You f'd up ZIP https://tech.slashdot.org/comm...

    Yet 100,000++ users of my ware & dozens of even REGISTERED /.ers like/use/praise MY work https://news.slashdot.org/comm... vs. your HOTAIR talk punk!

    * LMAO!

    (Let's see how YOU take it when I publicly SHIT ALL OVER YOU by letting FACTS of YOUR FUCKUPS vs. ME https://science.slashdot.org/c... do the job for me)

    APK

    P.S.=> You STUPID & LAZY all talk chimpanzee... apk

  17. Zuckerberg declared... by MaurizioMonge · · Score: 1

    he will certainly attend. Oh, wait as second...

  18. UK is Fed up by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

    UK, he talked to your bosses in the federal government of the EU. Why should he go talk to the UK government (a state in the federated EU) any more than he should go talk to New Jersey or Maryland?

    --
    (-1: Post disagrees with my already-settled worldview) is not a valid mod option.
    1. Re:UK is Fed up by tsa · · Score: 1

      To get the public's interest away from Brexit for a while.

      --

      -- Cheers!

  19. The difference is... by Arzaboa · · Score: 1

    ...that in the town square where people talk and post notices, you can mostly avoid the trolls. Local governments have no shortage of laws dictating what you can say, where and when. You also typically don't have people from foreign countries and lobbyists from X company standing on soap boxes shouting at you every time you turn around in your local town.

    Mark Z. Should be talking to anyone he can. For the sake of people that use this stuff, I would like to see Facebook stick to just ads for products and services. There is absolutely no reason that political ads have to be shown to people on Facebook. Isn't the entire service to connect friends and families? How does this fall under thta? Let people review these "call to arms" ads, under some link on ones Facebook page, and see how many people wantonly click on them at that point.

    I get that he already talked with other governments and he's worried he'll set himself up, but at this point, the fact he hasn't cleaned the place up speaks volumes.

    --
    My regrets are for the people - Chris Kyle

    1. Re:The difference is... by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      ...that in the town square where people talk and post notices, you can mostly avoid the trolls. Local governments have no shortage of laws dictating what you can say, where and when.

      Another good reason not to visit Foreignplace to meet the haters; they don't even understand Freezepeach!

  20. Always send a lawyer instead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Always send a lawyer when the cops want to talk to you.

    They might be just asking you 'for an interview' when they're going to interview you and then arrest you. Yes, cops are allowed to lie. No, you are not allowed to flee the interview. By not showing up in the first place, you're almost (not quite) immune.

    And this all works great if you're a dozen or more times a billionaire.

    Maybe not so much for poor people. I love those 'always get a lawyer before you talk to the cops' people who sorta overlook that getting that lawyer is looking at $500/hr. and probably close to $10,000 before it's over - not everyone has that kind of dosh just lying around the house. The Zuck does.

    AC

  21. Re: TRUMP SAYS, "WHERE'S MY BIG RED BUTTON DAMMIT! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    ORANGE MAN BAD!

  22. Zach Patterson / ZIP "Greatest Hits" (lol, not) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    See how STUPID "ZIP" (Zach Patterson) the CHIMP is (tried to take credit for what I solved before him) https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... (he needs to LEARN TO READ)!

    I even SHOW ways to do it YOURSELF https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... (he couldn't).

    Delphi/FreePascal/ObjectPascal HAS no issue w/ null-term'd string bufferoverflows - C does, C++ can UNLESS you do what I said 1st loser.

    Tell us about CODE SIGNING (which has been STOLEN & ABUSED) https://www.helpnetsecurity.co... MY METHOD CAN'T BE (upmodded +2 INTERESTING in CODING FOR DEFCON no less) https://it.slashdot.org/commen...

    "I'm a much better programmer than APK" - by Anonymous Coward ZIP on Monday October 08, 2018 @11:27PM (#57449082) FROM https://yro.slashdot.org/comme...

    BIG TALK - Yet ZIP has nothing to show in programs. I can https://news.slashdot.org/comm... from registered /.ers liking/using/praising my work (& 100k users worldwide too). He can't.

    LIAR ZIP says he has no account "I don't have an account, so I don't have mod points" https://news.slashdot.org/comm...

    Yet LIAR ZIP says he downmods my posts (IMPOSSIBLE MINUS AN ACCOUNT on /.): "I down-modded a few of your post on other threads" - by Anonymous Coward "ZIP" on Thursday October 11, 2018 @11:31AM (#57461058) FROM https://yro.slashdot.org/comme...

    APK

    P.S.=> KEEP IMPERSONATING ME CHIMP - this comes out every time, lol!... apk

  23. ZIP = "better programmer" (lol, not) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    You said it ZIP: Where's your work everyone can see/use? It's not. It's HOTAIRWARE/NOTWARE (lol) "I'm a much better programmer than APK" - by Anonymous Coward ZIP on Monday October 08, 2018 @11:27PM (#57449082) FROM https://yro.slashdot.org/comme...

    The BETTER PROGRAMMER w/ no programs, lol - @ least you can say your "code" has NO BUGS - of course, it also does ZERO (like you) since it does nothing @ all, lol!

    You hotair BLOWHARD talker, lol!

    You f'd up ZIP https://tech.slashdot.org/comm...

    Yet 100,000++ users of my ware & dozens of even REGISTERED /.ers like/use/praise MY work https://news.slashdot.org/comm... vs. your HOTAIR talk punk!

    * LMAO!

    (Let's see how YOU take it when I publicly SHIT ALL OVER YOU by letting FACTS of YOUR FUCKUPS vs. ME https://science.slashdot.org/c... do the job for me)

    APK

    P.S.=> You STUPID & LAZY all talk chimpanzee... apk

  24. ZIP = "better programmer" (lol, not) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    You said it ZIP: Where's your work everyone can see/use? It's not. It's HOTAIRWARE/NOTWARE (lol) "I'm a much better programmer than APK" - by Anonymous Coward ZIP on Monday October 08, 2018 @11:27PM (#57449082) FROM https://yro.slashdot.org/comme...

    The BETTER PROGRAMMER w/ no programs, lol - @ least you can say your "code" has NO BUGS - of course, it also does ZERO (like you) since it does nothing @ all, lol!

    You hotair BLOWHARD talker, lol!

    You f'd up ZIP https://tech.slashdot.org/comm...

    Yet 100,000++ users of my ware & dozens of even REGISTERED /.ers like/use/praise MY work https://news.slashdot.org/comm... vs. your HOTAIR talk punk!

    * LMAO!

    (Let's see how YOU take it when I publicly SHIT ALL OVER YOU by letting FACTS of YOUR FUCKUPS vs. ME https://science.slashdot.org/c... do the job for me)

    APK

    P.S.=> You STUPID & LAZY all talk chimpanzee... apk

  25. Retarded bitch APK is nothing but lies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That retarded bitch APK is nothing but lies and they get exposed regularly.

  26. If you don't like Facebook don't use it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't utilize Facebook nor Apple or Microsoft. I utilize very selectively Amazon and Google. Amazon for purchases occasionally and nothing else like 'smart' devices etc. Google I occasionally utilize for search.

    Everybody has a right to speak, but nobody has an obligation to listen. If you don't like what the Russian trolls are saying you have every right to ignore them. You have no right to suppress there speech.

    I do want to point out that the UK and many if not most EU countries, and the United States have all influenced or overthrown foreign powers. So I have very little sympathy when Russia or another country utilizes trolls and bots in an effort to influence another country's elections. Most countries in fact do the very same thing via different outlets. From RT to DW TV to the BBC to PBS to Australian and Canadian equivalents.

  27. eurogitmo by astrofurter · · Score: 1

    Zuck is probably worried that they will follow the Soviet American playbook. As soon as his plane lands they'll kidnap him and drag him off to EuroGitmo for some enhanced interrogation.

    1. Re:eurogitmo by dunkelfalke · · Score: 1

      The EuroGitmo is only used by the CIA anyway.

      --
      "It's such a fine line between stupid and clever" -- David St. Hubbins, Spinal Tap
  28. Facebook Abstainers Could Be Labeled Suspicious by tepples · · Score: 3, Insightful

    no one forced anyone to sign up for a Facebook or Twitter account.

    True, even if something is a condition of finding a job (see "Facebook Abstainers Could Be Labeled Suspicious" from July 2012), it isn't "forced". But the alternative might be starvation.

  29. Maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The only reason that comes to mind that he can't attend and can't say why is an NSL.

  30. See other post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There is a different post about Facebook two or three posts newer than this one. That other post claims that Facebook itself hired a PR firm to spread fake news about rivals Apple and Google after Facebook was caught selling US political ads to the Russians.

    I think the real reason Zuckerberg won't go to the UK is that he doesn't want to get arrested for possible crimes there.

  31. British police caution by tepples · · Score: 1

    The British counterpart to the American right to remain silent is weaker. It includes this clause encouraging a defendant to reveal his hand earlier: "But it may harm your defence if you do not mention when questioned something which you later rely on in court." Those under arrest have the right to free legal advice, but unlike the American Miranda warning, the British police caution appears to lack standard phrasing for this (source).

  32. Because EU isn't a sovereign state, and Brexit by tepples · · Score: 1

    Why should he go talk to the UK government (a state in the federated EU) any more than he should go talk to New Jersey or Maryland?

    Two reasons:

    1. The EU is currently organized more like the United States under the Articles of Confederation than like the US under its present Constitution. The central EU government doesn't have nearly as much power over member states' relationships with non-member states as the US has over the several states.
    2. British secession from the European Union is underway.

  33. Zach Patterson / ZIP "Greatest Hits" (lol, not) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    See how STUPID "ZIP" (Zach Patterson) the CHIMP is (tried to take credit for what I solved before him) https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... (he needs to LEARN TO READ)!

    I even SHOW ways to do it YOURSELF https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... (he couldn't).

    Delphi/FreePascal/ObjectPascal HAS no issue w/ null-term'd string bufferoverflows - C does, C++ can UNLESS you do what I said 1st loser.

    Tell us about CODE SIGNING (which has been STOLEN & ABUSED) https://www.helpnetsecurity.co... MY METHOD CAN'T BE (upmodded +2 INTERESTING in CODING FOR DEFCON no less) https://it.slashdot.org/commen...

    "I'm a much better programmer than APK" - by Anonymous Coward ZIP on Monday October 08, 2018 @11:27PM (#57449082) FROM https://yro.slashdot.org/comme...

    BIG TALK - Yet ZIP has nothing to show in programs. I can https://news.slashdot.org/comm... from registered /.ers liking/using/praising my work (& 100k users worldwide too). He can't.

    LIAR ZIP says he has no account "I don't have an account, so I don't have mod points" https://news.slashdot.org/comm...

    Yet LIAR ZIP says he downmods my posts (IMPOSSIBLE MINUS AN ACCOUNT on /.): "I down-modded a few of your post on other threads" - by Anonymous Coward "ZIP" on Thursday October 11, 2018 @11:31AM (#57461058) FROM https://yro.slashdot.org/comme...

    APK

    P.S.=> KEEP IMPERSONATING ME CHIMP - this comes out every time, lol!... apk

  34. ZIP = "better programmer" (lol, not) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You said it ZIP: Where's your work everyone can see/use? It's not. It's HOTAIRWARE/NOTWARE (lol) "I'm a much better programmer than APK" - by Anonymous Coward ZIP on Monday October 08, 2018 @11:27PM (#57449082) FROM https://yro.slashdot.org/comme...

    The BETTER PROGRAMMER w/ no programs, lol - @ least you can say your "code" has NO BUGS - of course, it also does ZERO (like you) since it does nothing @ all, lol!

    You hotair BLOWHARD talker, lol!

    You f'd up ZIP https://tech.slashdot.org/comm...

    Yet 100,000++ users of my ware & dozens of even REGISTERED /.ers like/use/praise MY work https://news.slashdot.org/comm... vs. your HOTAIR talk punk!

    * LMAO!

    (Let's see how YOU take it when I publicly SHIT ALL OVER YOU by letting FACTS of YOUR FUCKUPS vs. ME https://science.slashdot.org/c... do the job for me)

    APK

    P.S.=> You STUPID & LAZY all talk chimpanzee - KEEP IMPERSONATING me - I'll expose your BLOWHARD INCOMPETENCE publicly, lol... apk

  35. ZIP = "better programmer" (lol, not) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You said it ZIP: Where's your work everyone can see/use? It's not. It's HOTAIRWARE/NOTWARE (lol) "I'm a much better programmer than APK" - by Anonymous Coward ZIP on Monday October 08, 2018 @11:27PM (#57449082) FROM https://yro.slashdot.org/comme...

    The BETTER PROGRAMMER w/ no programs, lol - @ least you can say your "code" has NO BUGS - of course, it also does ZERO (like you) since it does nothing @ all, lol!

    You hotair BLOWHARD talker, lol!

    You f'd up ZIP https://tech.slashdot.org/comm...

    Yet 100,000++ users of my ware & dozens of even REGISTERED /.ers like/use/praise MY work https://news.slashdot.org/comm... vs. your HOTAIR talk punk!

    * LMAO!

    (Let's see how YOU take it when I publicly SHIT ALL OVER YOU by letting FACTS of YOUR FUCKUPS vs. ME https://science.slashdot.org/c... do the job for me)

    APK

    P.S.=> You STUPID & LAZY all talk chimpanzee - KEEP IMPERSONATING me - I'll expose your BLOWHARD INCOMPETENCE publicly, lol... apk

  36. ZIP = "better programmer" (lol, not) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You said it ZIP: Where's your work everyone can see/use? It's not. It's HOTAIRWARE/NOTWARE (lol) "I'm a much better programmer than APK" - by Anonymous Coward ZIP on Monday October 08, 2018 @11:27PM (#57449082) FROM https://yro.slashdot.org/comme...

    The BETTER PROGRAMMER w/ no programs, lol - @ least you can say your "code" has NO BUGS - of course, it also does ZERO (like you) since it does nothing @ all, lol!

    You hotair BLOWHARD talker, lol!

    You f'd up ZIP https://tech.slashdot.org/comm...

    Yet 100,000++ users of my ware & dozens of even REGISTERED /.ers like/use/praise MY work https://news.slashdot.org/comm... vs. your HOTAIR talk punk!

    * LMAO!

    (Let's see how YOU take it when I publicly SHIT ALL OVER YOU by letting FACTS of YOUR FUCKUPS vs. ME https://science.slashdot.org/c... do the job for me)

    APK

    P.S.=> You STUPID & LAZY all talk chimpanzee - KEEP IMPERSONATING me - I'll expose your BLOWHARD INCOMPETENCE publicly, lol... apk

  37. Zach Patterson / ZIP "Greatest Hits" (lol, not) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See how STUPID "ZIP" (Zach Patterson) the CHIMP is (tried to take credit for what I solved before him) https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... (he needs to LEARN TO READ)!

    I even SHOW ways to do it YOURSELF https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... (he couldn't).

    Delphi/FreePascal/ObjectPascal HAS no issue w/ null-term'd string bufferoverflows - C does, C++ can UNLESS you do what I said 1st loser.

    Tell us about CODE SIGNING (which has been STOLEN & ABUSED) https://www.helpnetsecurity.co... MY METHOD CAN'T BE (upmodded +2 INTERESTING in CODING FOR DEFCON no less) https://it.slashdot.org/commen...

    "I'm a much better programmer than APK" - by Anonymous Coward ZIP on Monday October 08, 2018 @11:27PM (#57449082) FROM https://yro.slashdot.org/comme...

    BIG TALK - Yet ZIP has nothing to show in programs. I can https://news.slashdot.org/comm... from registered /.ers liking/using/praising my work (& 100k users worldwide too). He can't.

    LIAR ZIP says he has no account "I don't have an account, so I don't have mod points" https://news.slashdot.org/comm...

    Yet LIAR ZIP says he downmods my posts (IMPOSSIBLE MINUS AN ACCOUNT on /.): "I down-modded a few of your post on other threads" - by Anonymous Coward "ZIP" on Thursday October 11, 2018 @11:31AM (#57461058) FROM https://yro.slashdot.org/comme...

    APK

    P.S.=> KEEP IMPERSONATING ME CHIMP - this comes out every time EXPOSING your BLOWHARD incompetence... apk