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Facebook Claims NYT Expose Has 'A Number of Inaccuracies' (variety.com)

Earlier today, Facebook issued a response to a New York Times report on the social media company's handling of the many scandals it faced last year, including Russian interference and the Cambridge Analytica scandal. "There are a number of inaccuracies in the story," Facebook said in a point-by-point blog post, including that the company was aware of Russian meddling on the social platform months before taking any action. Variety reports: Facebook said it has "acknowledged publicly on many occasions" that "we were too slow to spot Russian interference on Facebook, as well as other misuse." But Facebook denied the allegation in the Times report that the company knew about Russian activity as early as the spring of 2016 and had failed to actively investigate it. The company cited CEO Mark Zuckerberg's congressional testimony from April 2018, in which he said Facebook detected threats related to Russia only in the weeks leading up to the U.S. election in November 2016. When it identified fake accounts that were used to furnish stolen information to journalists, "we shut these accounts down for violating our policies," Zuckerberg testified.

Meanwhile, Facebook in October 2017 enlisted Washington, D.C.-area PR firm Definers Public Affairs, founded by Republican political strategists, as part of its crisis response to dealing with the Russia fallout. Among other activities, Definers launched a campaign linking Facebook critics to liberal billionaire George Soros, a common tactic used by anti-Semitic alt-right groups. At the same time, Facebook lobbied the Anti-Defamation League to portray other critics of the company as anti-Semitic, per the Times report. On Thursday, Facebook said it terminated its contract with Definers on Nov. 14 after the Times story was published.
Facebook acknowledged that Definers "did encourage members of the press to look into the funding"of Freedom From Facebook, an anti-Facebook organization that has called for the company's breakup. "The intention [of the Definers' efforts] was to demonstrate that it was not simply a spontaneous grassroots campaign, as it claimed, but supported by a well-known critic of our company. To suggest that this was an anti-Semitic attack is reprehensible and untrue," Facebook said.

64 comments

  1. Zuck the Fuck at it again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Never can just say what it's like, what's it's like, what it's like. The boy needs a big fat mama to make him right, make him right, make him right.

  2. Jayson Blair by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not 100% believing NYT fact checking either....

    Ahh wikipedia for Jayson Blair former NYT reporter

    >Jayson Thomas Blair (born March 23, 1976) is a former American journalist who worked for The New York Times. He resigned from the newspaper in May 2003 in the wake of the discovery of plagiarism and fabrication in his stories.

  3. "anti-Semitic alt-right group"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    When did the narrative that anyone who criticizes George Soros should be labeled an "anti-Semitic alt-right group" begin? Soros isn't even Jewish. It demonstrates the reach that his dollars have and the lengths that his benefactors will go to preserve that flow of money. It is no secret that he funds MANY leftist groups and their media operations.

    1. Re:"anti-Semitic alt-right group"? by belthize · · Score: 2

      Where do you get that Soros isn't Jewish ? It's not like being a southern baptist and you can walk in, take a special shower and be a baptist. He's Jewish (not that it matters), whether he actively practices the religion is irrelevant.

      Or is this some tri-level conspiracy theory bullshit where after decades of attacking him for being some Jewish Rothschild mastermind he's now 'not even Jewish'.

    2. Re: "anti-Semitic alt-right group"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Something needs to happen now! But what?

    3. Re: "anti-Semitic alt-right group"? by Narcocide · · Score: 1

      Someone is supposed to profit, but it's not clear exactly how.

    4. Re:"anti-Semitic alt-right group"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      His family is of Hungarian Jewish descent but were non-practicing. Jewish isn't a race, it's a religion.

    5. Re:"anti-Semitic alt-right group"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Where do you get that Soros isn't Jewish ? It's not like being a southern baptist and you can walk in, take a special shower and be a baptist. He's Jewish (not that it matters), whether he actively practices the religion is irrelevant.

      Or is this some tri-level conspiracy theory bullshit where after decades of attacking him for being some Jewish Rothschild mastermind he's now 'not even Jewish'.

      Anyone can become jewish. Just walk in and ask them.

    6. Re:"anti-Semitic alt-right group"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The point is the disgusting deflection the Left always does to demonize people who disagree. Soros is a full-throated globalist so nationalism suddenly becomes white-nationalism, etc. There is no doubt that George Soros has funneled billions of dollars into his various organizations who then route that money to fund radical Leftist causes and their media orgs. It isn't up for debate. Instead of discussing merits they quickly label anyone who disagrees with the most vile slurs they can think of over and over again, creating a narrative.

      It's everything the Left has accused the Koch brothers of doing for years times 1000.

    7. Re:"anti-Semitic alt-right group"? by alexo · · Score: 1

      Jewish isn't a race, it's a religion.

      Educate yourself.

    8. Re:"anti-Semitic alt-right group"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jewish isn't a race, it's a religion.

      Strictly speaking, I don't believe that's correct.

      AFAIK, Judaism is the religion.

      There are ethnic Jews: Ashkenazi and Sephardic. To be an ethnic Jew you have to be born to a Jewish mother. Jewishness passes down maternally. You can be born and raised Catholic or Buddhist, and convert; AFAIK that may make you "religiously" Jewish, but it doesn't change your ethnicity.

      Race, since you brought ti up, e.g. African/black, Caucasian/white, Asian, Arab, Hispanic, Native American, etc., is a completely artificial construct. IIRC there is no scientific basis, or no genetic difference, between peoples of the various so called "races." It was used by racist whites to support their claims of superiority on the basis of their skin color.

    9. Re:"anti-Semitic alt-right group"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anyone can become jewish. Just walk in and ask them.

      Just walk in. And have a circumcision.

      Details, they aren't just for breakfast any more.

      Easy for me; I've already been circumcised, thanks to the American medical hegemony. But then again, I'm agnostic.

    10. Re: "anti-Semitic alt-right group"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/george-soros-ss-nazi-germany/

    11. Re:"anti-Semitic alt-right group"? by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      He's a NAZI collaborator

      That's what's called a "lie". We both know it isn't true. What I want to know is why your worldview is so centred on making up lies about people you feel you should hate? Does it make hating them easier?

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    12. Re:"anti-Semitic alt-right group"? by Crashmarik · · Score: 1

      That's what's called in his own words
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

      He had no sense of guilt as well.

    13. Re:"anti-Semitic alt-right group"? by hey! · · Score: 1

      Oh, so you're one of those people who think he was a 9 year-old SS officer?

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    14. Re:"anti-Semitic alt-right group"? by Crashmarik · · Score: 1

      No I am one of those people that doesn't give him a pass for helping the NAZIs rob people who were being sent to death camps.

      I also am one of those people who don't "No I don't feel any guilt, because it would have happened anyway" as an excuse from anyone.

    15. Re:"anti-Semitic alt-right group"? by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 1

      Where do you get that Soros isn't Jewish ? It's not like being a southern baptist and you can walk in, take a special shower and be a baptist. He's Jewish (not that it matters), whether he actively practices the religion is irrelevant.

      Or is this some tri-level conspiracy theory bullshit where after decades of attacking him for being some Jewish Rothschild mastermind he's now 'not even Jewish'.

      He's a rich leftist (we used to call them "limousine liberals") who uses his money to cause problems around the world.

      I neither knew nor cared that he is in some sense Jewish; nor probably do most people who criticize him know or care.

    16. Re:"anti-Semitic alt-right group"? by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      I cba to click on a youtube link especially when I'm 99% sure you're linking to that interview that I've already seen. It's covered far better here than I could ever cover it:

      https://www.snopes.com/fact-ch...

      So we still both know you're full of shit. It's funny that you realise you're suposed to need a good reason to hate someone. What's not funy is your desparate attempt at a post-hoc justificaton of your hate. You are prepared to stretch facts to far, far beyond breaking point in order to justify to yourself that your hatred is, well, justified.

      Here's a free clue: if you need those mental gymnastics then no your hate isn't justified. You should probably example your motivations but I know you won't.

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    17. Re:"anti-Semitic alt-right group"? by hey! · · Score: 1

      Your source that the child Soros robbed people going to death camps? Infowars?

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    18. Re:"anti-Semitic alt-right group"? by cyberchondriac · · Score: 1

      It's both.

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    19. Re:"anti-Semitic alt-right group"? by cyberchondriac · · Score: 1

      I don't know about the Jewish part, and I don't care; that's irrelevant to me, I'm not remotely anti-Semitic. Behavior and action is what matters, not race or creed.
      But that little line exposes Variety as yet another left leaning publication who wants to paint anyone anti-Soros as a deplorable. Not only the so-called "alt-right" criticizes Soros, many standard conservatives do as well, simply for the fact that he is the funding behind many globalist and leftist agendas. I'll bet Variety would not dream of labeling those claiming a reverse equivalent of the Koch Bros, even though they fund both left and right agendas: whatever makes them money.

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    20. Re:"anti-Semitic alt-right group"? by squiggleslash · · Score: 1

      No I am one of those people that doesn't give him a pass for helping the NAZIs rob people who were being sent to death camps.

      I give him a pass for not doing that. He didn't rob people going to death camps. He didn't rob Jews in general. He didn't rob anyone.

      He saw the possessions of one Jewish family confiscated, he was brought along, on precisely one occasion, with people who were doing that. The Jewish family hadn't been sent to a concentration camp, they'd fled Germany.

      Soros was 9 years old.

      Soros didn't have the ability to stop what was going on, and as a matter of fact had to play the role of "Godson" to a German bureaucrat or else face death. But the interview you've read is usually quoted out of context and with the key points ignored. Here's the key quote, from the interview that's always being quoted out of context:

      whether I was there or not, I was only a spectator, the property was being taken away. So the I had no role in taking away that property. So I had no sense of guilt.

      Witnesses are not culpable just because they're witnesses.

      Now, I don't necessarily blame people for misreading that interview, he prattles on about his role in the markets, and how if he didn't do something, someone else would, but he's trying to draw a distinction between that and what happened when he was young, when he was trying to survive a regime that wanted to murder him and his family. He's always clearly blindsided by the questioning, which is probably why it's so garbled. There are known facts about what happened, such as this happening one time, and one time only, that are far from clear in what Soros says.

      Soros is, for whatever reason, the right's bogeyman and virtually everything written about him needs to be taken with several truckloads of salt as a result. There's more misinformation about him than there is left wing misinformation about the Koch brothers, probably because Soros has made more enemies and is worse at the politics than the Kochs are. Soros was unfortunate enough to be brought up in a country whose leaders, and to a certain extent population, wanted to murder him. It's easy to manipulate any story of survival into a story of immorality. Be careful what you believe.

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    21. Re:"anti-Semitic alt-right group"? by Crashmarik · · Score: 1

      I am sorry but linking to snopes which has well known problems is b.s. and you know it. It isn't a fact checking site as a propaganda site. What else do you call it when the owner hires a prostitute as a fact checker who is also his mistress.

      I bet you're #BelieveHer when it comes to Kavanaugh but don't give a shit about Keith Ellison.

    22. Re:"anti-Semitic alt-right group"? by Crashmarik · · Score: 1

      60 minutes, I linked to the video clip already

    23. Re:"anti-Semitic alt-right group"? by Crashmarik · · Score: 1

      I give him a pass for not doing that. He didn't rob people going to death camps. He didn't rob Jews in general. He didn't rob anyone.

      That's the spin he started to put out after he realized how bad what he said was.

    24. Re: "anti-Semitic alt-right group"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You haven't even looked at Snopes have you?

    25. Re:"anti-Semitic alt-right group"? by larkost · · Score: 1

      "cause problems around the world"? That characterization seems enormously, and unhelpfully, opinionated. Regardless of whether you agree with the causes he supports, or not, simple fairness requires you to acknowledge that he is not just spending his money in an attempt to "cause problems".

      If you disagree with him, please be honest about that disagreement. Don't assign intent that is clearly not there in an effort to demonize. That is just dishonest.

    26. Re:"anti-Semitic alt-right group"? by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      I am sorry but linking to snopes which has well known problems is b.s. and you know it.

      Problems in that it has a strong reality bias. I guess that is a bias if you truly live in a post truth age.

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    27. Re:"anti-Semitic alt-right group"? by Crashmarik · · Score: 1

      I am sorry but linking to snopes which has well known problems is b.s. and you know it.

      Problems in that it has a strong reality bias. I guess that is a bias if you truly live in a post truth age.

      Yeah reality bias. Having a fact checker running for office, and another who is both a prostitute and works while drugged is a reality bias.

  4. The perfect jukebox for our memories by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Facebook has become one of the most emotionally resonant pieces of technology today. It is also shaping our narratives along the way.

  5. Anybody remember MySpace? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh, how the might have fallen. Please just let Facebook die and get it over with, already.

    1. Re:Anybody remember MySpace? by rabidmuskrat · · Score: 1

      Their hands are in enough things at this point that even if facebook itself stops seeing use (long time away) they'll still live a long long time in other ways.

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  6. Disappointed in the ADL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They had a chance to show they had some integrity after barking like a trained seal for Clinton in 2016 (Pepe) and blew it.

  7. Uh-huh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    Zuckerberg is and has always been a psycho and *pathetic*. Talk about getting lucky, in the right place at the right time. He couldn't innovte or provide something truly useful to get out of a wet paper bag. All modern Valley companies have built upon the backs of others that did the hard work and actual innovating, their attitude is despicable.

  8. Re:Fake News by Crashmarik · · Score: 2

    Well forget about the memes. I am sure Facebook is deciding the public needs to be protected from the New York Times.

  9. ROFL by nehumanuscrede · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Facebook accusing anyone of disseminating inaccurate information is so epic in its hypocrisy that
    I don't think the English language can possibly describe it.

    POT meet KETTLE

  10. Like by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Facebook sez the NY Times was inaccurate in saying Facebook was sleezy.

    1. Re:Like by Immerman · · Score: 2

      Right. They should have said "super sleezy scum" instead. More accurate that way.

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  11. Re:Fake News by rtb61 · · Score: 0

    Facebook aware, what a joke. Click bait from Russian click bait farms was not interference in anything, although it could be called a divergence from politics, because it is politically aligned to get you to click it but the link does not take you to a political site but some junk site selling some rubbish. It would be a huge stretch to call that Russian interference because so many click bait farms from all over the planet do exactly that. Whether they use politics, porn, promises of all sorts of prizes, the idea is to get you to click (so the message is something you 'WANT' to hear), to take you to somewhere entirely different trying to sell you some rubbish.

    You would think the lie would have died by now, but of course the US deep state and shadow government are still pushing it, as well as corporate Democrats for entirely bullshit reasons, whilst completely ignoring the death grip that the Israeli Mossad has on the US government, it's a parody of Keystone Cop incompetence, with the US government banning a expose of Israeli interference in the US government, not only not prosecuting high level corruption but seeking to hide it from the public in the most treasonous fashion imaginable. In this case both Facebook and the New York Times, look like complete fucking idiots, deep state and shadow government propagandists looking to point the finger at each other. How low can they go, obviously no limit until they hit bankruptcy, which is probably closer than both would want you to know.

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  12. Facebook is mathematically correct by alexo · · Score: 4, Informative

    They claimed that "there are a number of inaccuracies in the story".

    Zero is a number.

    1. Re:Facebook is mathematically correct by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In their blog post there's a list of items they respond to.

  13. Shut down Facebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Zuckerberg himself testified that Facebook knew of Russian interference shortly before the 2016 election. So then why did Facebook keep denying Russian interference for months and months and months after the election, well into 2017? Did Facebook/F*ckerberg come out and admit the Russian interference on their own? NO! They only admitted it after news outlets, like the same ones they are now claiming are telling falsehoods, forced Facebook's hand by digging up more and more evidence of Russian interference via Facebook. Facebook is a horrible company which needs to go away.

  14. NYT claims Facebook has a number of inaccuracies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No, you are a liar. And ugly too.

  15. Blue on Blue is fun to watch by Wizardess · · Score: 1, Funny

    I find it tickles my perverse sense of humor to see lefties trading pot-shots with other lefties.
    {^_-}

    1. Re:Blue on Blue is fun to watch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I find it tickles my perverse sense of humor [...]

      Are you sure you are not a leftie yourself? You show some signs of self-awareness.

  16. Zach Patterson / ZIP "Greatest Hits" (lol, not) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See how STUPID "ZIP" (Zach Patterson) the CHIMP is (tried to take credit for what I solved before him) https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... (he needs to LEARN TO READ)!

    I even SHOW ways to do it YOURSELF https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... (he couldn't).

    Delphi/FreePascal/ObjectPascal HAS no issue w/ null-term'd string bufferoverflows https://developers.slashdot.or... - C does, C++ can UNLESS you do what I said 1st loser.

    Tell us about CODE SIGNING (which has been STOLEN & ABUSED) https://www.helpnetsecurity.co... MY METHOD CAN'T BE (upmodded +2 INTERESTING in CODING FOR DEFCON no less) https://it.slashdot.org/commen...

    "I'm a much better programmer than APK" - by Anonymous Coward ZIP on Monday October 08, 2018 @11:27PM (#57449082)

    BIG TALK - Yet ZIP has nothing to show in programs. I can https://news.slashdot.org/comm... from registered /.ers liking/using/praising my work (& 100k users worldwide too). He can't.

    LIAR ZIP says he has no account "I don't have an account, so I don't have mod points" https://news.slashdot.org/comm...

    Yet LIAR ZIP says he downmods my posts (IMPOSSIBLE MINUS AN ACCOUNT on /.): "I down-modded a few of your post on other threads" - by Anonymous Coward "ZIP" on Thursday October 11, 2018 @11:31AM (#57461058) FROM https://yro.slashdot.org/comme...

    APK

    P.S.=> KEEP IMPERSONATING ME CHIMP https://science.slashdot.org/c... - this comes out every time EXPOSING your BLOWHARD incompetence... apk

  17. Zach Patterson / ZIP = "better programmer" - not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You said it ZIP: Where's your work everyone can see/use? It's not. It's HOTAIRWARE/NOTWARE (lol) "I'm a much better programmer than APK" - by Anonymous Coward ZIP on Monday October 08, 2018 @11:27PM (#57449082)

    The BETTER PROGRAMMER w/ no programs, lol - @ least you can say your "code" has NO BUGS - of course, it also does ZERO (like you) since it does nothing @ all, lol!

    You hotair BLOWHARD talker, lol!

    You f'd up ZIP https://tech.slashdot.org/comm...

    Yet 100,000++ users of my ware & dozens of even REGISTERED /.ers like/use/praise MY work https://news.slashdot.org/comm... vs. your HOTAIR talk punk!

    * LMAO!

    (Let's see how YOU take it when I publicly SHIT ALL OVER YOU by letting FACTS of YOUR FUCKUPS vs. ME https://science.slashdot.org/c... do the job for me)

    APK

    P.S.=> You STUPID & LAZY all talk chimpanzee - KEEP IMPERSONATING me https://science.slashdot.org/c... - I'll expose your BLOWHARD INCOMPETENCE publicly, lol... apk

  18. Re:Make it stop! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Exposing the truth is still considered trolling around here, eh?, Like telling the pope there is no god. And the 2020 is campaign well underway. Gotta admit, the faith is most powerful, so weird

  19. Demoncrats Eat Their Own by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And their own country. This is nothingburger par for the course news.

  20. They would, wouldn't they? by OneHundredAndTen · · Score: 1

    Paraphrasing Mandy Rice-Davis's immortal words, as relevant today as they were at the time.

  21. Re:Fake News by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    but of course the US deep state and shadow government

    Russian troll says what?

  22. Re:Make it stop! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    psychopathic moderators ruining it for everybody. Well there ya go asshole, you can't mod it down anymore. You'll have to stalk the account, which you probably will do.

  23. There is no race. Racist whites. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Pick one. Fun game, anyone who mods this down is racist. Isn't that how you guys deflect logic you cannot argue against?

  24. He could also throw a bunch of mud against the wal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And see if it makes sense. Both has equally as much validity.