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Amazon Has Everything it Needs To Make Massively Popular Algorithm-Driven Fiction (qz.com)

Thu-Huong Ha, writing for Quartz: Amazon's power in books extends way beyond its ability to sell them super cheap and super fast. This year, a little over 40% of the print books sold in the US moved through the site, according to estimates from Bookstat, which tracks US online book retail. (NPD, which tracks 85% of US trade print sales, declined to provide data broken out by retailer.) In the US, Amazon dominates ebook sales and hosts hundreds of thousands of self-published ebooks on its platforms, many exclusively. It looms over the audiobook scene, in retail as well as production, and is one of the biggest marketplaces for used books in the US. Amazon also makes its own books -- more than 1,500 last year.

All that power comes with great data, which Amazon's publishing arm is well positioned to exploit in the interest of making books tailored exactly to what people want -- down to which page characters should meet on or how many lines of dialogue they should exchange. Though Amazon declined to comment specifically on whether it uses data to shape or determine the content of its own books, the company acknowledged that authors are recruited for their past sales (as is common in traditional publishing). "Amazon Publishing titles are thoughtfully acquired by our team -- made up of publishing-industry veterans and long-time Amazonians -- with many factors taken into consideration," says Amazon Publishing publisher Mikyla Bruder, "including the acquiring editor's enthusiasm, the strength of the story, quality of the writing, editorial fit for our list, and author backlist/comparable titles' sales track."

Amazon's Kindle e-reader, first released in 2007, is a data-collection device that doubles as reading material. Kindle knows the minutiae of how people read: what they highlight, the fonts they prefer, where in a book they lose interest, what kind of books they finish quickly, and which books gets skimmed rather than read all the way through. A year after the Kindle came out, Amazon acquired Audible. Audiobooks have been a rare bright spot in the publishing industry, with double-digit growth in total sales for the past few years. Audible now touts itself as the "world's largest seller and producer of downloadable audiobooks and other spoken-word entertainment," and its site has around 450,000 audio programs.

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  1. Re:Just generate the books by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    So it will generate loli rape books for incels and black cock harlequin books for the micropeened, peckerwood white nationalists.

  2. following Hollywood and TV by liquid_schwartz · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yay, now books can become as predictable as Hallmark movies.

  3. It doesn't really by phantomfive · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They can tell things like when people stop reading in their Kindle, but they don't have really great data to determine why the person stopped reading. They may be able to tell how long popular dialogues are, but an interesting dialogue is determined by much more than length. In fact you might say that length is one of the least important factors.

    So great, they have tons of metrics, but they don't have the ability to extract the metrics they need to make a book interesting. And that is entirely the problem.

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  4. Everything but fuxxoring readers, dumbasses. by Seven+Spirals · · Score: 2

    Readers aren't the same as Vidiots. They have enough brain cells to tell that they are reading AI-generated garbage. I'm more inclined to believe GAN will produce movies before it'll write a decent book. However, I'm probably just heavily biased since I'm a voracious reader myself (and completely fucking unashamed of it).

    1. Re:Everything but fuxxoring readers, dumbasses. by Voice+of+satan · · Score: 2

      I am sorry but there are tons of people who read and write crud all the time. Published crud will be cheaper that is all.

      I recall the interview of some guy form a French recording company. He was explaining that he was making dance album with one guy paid to make quickly rhythms and mixed parts of nonsensical sentences uttered by a female singer paid a flat fee.

      He added "Our approach may sound cynical but this is how we make money we use later to produce real music made by real artists".

      Except i do not expect Amazon to use the generated money to finance great writing.

    2. Re:Everything but fuxxoring readers, dumbasses. by N7DR · · Score: 2

      You must be kidding right? Have you seen the top 10 best seller list? Hint: Harry Potter books were most of them. John Grisham. Pure junk.

      I am a writer. It seems to me that Amazon, or anyone else, is welcome to generate as much junk as they like. I don't see that it's going to affect any writer who creates substantive, complex, original works. The two are aimed at quite different markets -- but both are real markets, and if people want to enjoy, and spend money on, let's call it "computer-generated drivel", then it's not obvious why Amazon or someone else shouldn't profitably cater to that market; I don't see why I would care whether some automated system is responsible for "creating" books for the people who enjoy the kind of material that appears on any "top 10 best seller list".

  5. More LIkely by Luthair · · Score: 5, Funny

    We'll have an algorithmic tech blog that generates nonsensical stories. The formula is simple company x + category y + fad z.

    1. Re:More LIkely by Seven+Spirals · · Score: 3, Funny

      Huh? I thought I was already on that site. :-)

  6. Would that be "Harem Superhero Urban Fantasy"? by gweihir · · Score: 2

    Or some similar utter crap? I have been wondering where all that trash comes from...

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  7. Big Data Buzzword Bingo by grumbel · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I believe it when I see it. Sure, companies do collect a whole truckload of data all the time and AI has made some huge progress in the last 10 years, but in terms of end user features I have seen pretty much zero of that ever being used to create something useful.

    If they wanted to they could run face detection and AI on every movie out there and tell you exactly how long each character is on screen, with which characters they share a scene, what they are doing in the scene and so on. But they don't. We are still stuck with recommendation algorithms that are complete junk and provide no explorability.

    In their store they can't even manage to group related items together. Want to buy a book or movie from a series? Better know what you are looking for already, since they down show you which are part of the series or in what order they go. A trip to Wikipedia is often needed to figure things out.

    For most of the items they sell they can't even bother to scan the backside.

    There is a lot of cool stuff one could do with all that collected data, but I have yet to see somebody actually do something with it.

  8. I really don't believe it by Headw1nd · · Score: 4, Informative

    Seeing as how Amazon still has no idea what I might actually be interested in buying despite me doing quite a bit of shopping and browsing with them, (You bought a part for your car, so how about the same part, for a different car?) I have a hard time believing they would be able to make a full length book that would be anything more than a poor remix of something I had previously read.

  9. Re:Just generate the books by srmalloy · · Score: 2

    And you can switch between genres just by changing out the noun tables -- one-button swap between sci-fi, westerns, and action novels.

  10. Don't forget the ever popular titles by SuperKendall · · Score: 2

    I'm really looking forward to "Fifty shades of Magic", and "Ready, Player".

    In the end I think pretty much all of the AI generated books will come off like really poor fanfic with cringe-inducing sex sprinkled throughout.

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