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Compelling New Suspect For DB Cooper Skyjacking Found By Army Data Analyst (oregonlive.com)

A U.S. Army officer with a security clearance and a "solid professional reputation" believes he's solved the infamous D.B. Cooper skyjacking case -- naming two now-dead men in New Jersey who have never before been suspected, "possibly breaking wide open the only unsolved skyjacking case in U.S. history," according to the Oregonian. The data analyst started his research because, simply enough, he had stumbled upon an obscure old book called "D.B. Cooper: What Really Happened," by the late author Max Gunther. Gunther wrote that he was contacted in 1972 by a man who claimed to be the skyjacker... Using the name "Dan LeClair" and various details from the book, as well as information from the FBI's D.B. Cooper case files that have become public in recent years, Anonymous tracked the bread crumbs to a very real man named Dan Clair, a World War II Army veteran who died in 1990... Continuing his research, our anonymous Army officer eventually determined that Clair probably was not D.B. Cooper. More likely the skyjacker was a friend and co-worker of Clair's, a native New Jerseyan by the name of William J. Smith, who died in January of this year at age 89... Clair and Smith worked together at Penn Central Transportation Co. and one of its predecessors. For a while, they were both "yardies" at the Oak Island rail yard in Newark. It appears they bonded in the 1960s as Penn Central struggled to adapt to a changing economy.

The data analyst says the two men's military backgrounds -- Smith served in the Navy -- and long experience in the railroad business would have made it possible for either of them to successfully parachute from a low-flying jetliner, find railroad tracks once they were on the ground, and hop a freight train back to the East Coast. Poring over a 1971 railroad atlas, the hijacked plane's flight path and the skyjacker's likely jump zone, he determined that no matter where D.B. Cooper landed, he would have been no more than 5-to-7 miles from tracks. "I believe he would have been able to see Interstate 5 from the air," he says, adding that one rail line ran parallel to the highway... He believes Smith and Clair may have been in on the skyjacking together. He notes that Clair, who spent his career in relatively low-level jobs, retired in 1973 when he was just 54 years old.

Several incriminating coincidences were noted by an article this week in the Oregonian -- including a scar on Smith's hand, his visit to a skydiving facility in 1971, and Smith's strong resemblance to the police artist's sketches. Even the chemicals found on Cooper's clip-on tie in 2017 would be consistent with his job as the manager of a railyard. "[I]n my professional opinion, there are too many connections to be simply a coincidence," the data analyst told the FBI, while telling the Oregonian he believes the pair were "mad at the corporate establishment" in America and determined to do something about it.

"If I was on that plane, I wouldn't have thought he was a hero," he says. "But after the fact, I might think, 'OK, this took balls,' especially if I knew he was an ordinary guy, a working man worried about his pension going away. That he wasn't some arch-criminal. I would want to talk to that guy.... he is a kind of folk hero."

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  1. Need more direct evidence by Dan+East · · Score: 5, Interesting

    There were 209 million people in the US in 1972. Finding one of them who circumstantially could conceivably within the realm of possibility have known someone who circumstantially could conceivably have been D.B. Cooper is not a hard thing to do. There needs to be direct evidence connecting them for this to be newsworthy. Also, saying that the rare earth metals ending up on his tie because he was a rail yard manager is a huge stretch. In that case, assuming he left his office and went frolicking around inside of rail cars, he might have had one kind of rare earth metal. However the tie had multiple rare earths (cerium, strontium sulfide, pure titanium, etc) that indicate more of a production type facility (Boeing has been mentioned) where numerous rare earths are collected together in a single place.

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  2. Re:WTF is "skyjacking"? by Dan+East · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Skyjacking is a specific term that came into use in the 1960s to describe the rash of airplane hijackings that occurred in the late 60s and 70s. I count 20 skyjackings that involved the United States in just the decade of 1970. It is a specific type of hijacking that involves airplanes, and which typically takes place while the plane is in the sky during flight. Thus the plane is redirected to some other destination because the risk of the threat being real must be taken seriously.

    I presume you are in your 20s to have not encountered this word, which is defined in pretty much every English dictionary there is. If you prefer "A hijacking that occurs on an airplane while the plane is in flight" over "skyjacking" then feel free to use the longer phrase in your writings and conversation. However your lack of exposure to this word hardly makes it "tabloid-headline made-up".

    To totally beat this point to death, here are some various dictionary entries.
    https://www.merriam-webster.co...
    https://dictionary.cambridge.o...
    https://en.oxforddictionaries....
    https://www.dictionary.com/bro...
    https://www.thefreedictionary....
    https://www.macmillandictionar...

    I also note that the Chome spellchecker knows this word by default as well.

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  3. Military? But.... by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 4, Informative

    How does a "military background" demonstrate an ability to jump out of an airliner?

    My father put 25 years in the Army. I think he may have done Jump School before I was born. Maybe. Probably not, but it's possible.

    I was in the Navy. As was my brother. Neither of us ever got farther off the ground than the top of the Sail, except to fly as passengers on a civilian airliner across the Atlantic.

    So, while an Air Force background might suggest an ability to skydive (most Air Force types never get in the air, except to be passengers on a civilian airliner across the Atlantic or Pacific), Navy background suggests no such thing (unless you're a Navy Pilot)....

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  4. It's why the airport has metal detectors by goombah99 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Long before the TSA. Too many detours to Cuba. Then we all got metal detectors.

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    1. Re:It's why the airport has metal detectors by JustOK · · Score: 5, Funny

      And to honour all the victims, we take off our shoes.

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    2. Re:It's why the airport has metal detectors by PPH · · Score: 5, Interesting

      No. Then we had 9/11. No more "Just sit back and cooperate. We'll drop these guys off in Cuba and be back on our way." Now, if anyone acts up, the passengers will kill them.

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    3. Re:It's why the airport has metal detectors by zieroh · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Like school shootings, skyjackings are the result of our over 25,000 gun laws that disarm the "good guys" and don't do anything at all about bad guys with guns.

      No, skyjackings are (or mostly were) the result of the fact that it was easy to get a gun onto a plane. When the metal detectors went up, the rash of skyjackings stopped, up until 9/11. Someone figured out that box cutters could be almost as effective as guns, and airplanes almost as effective as missiles, at least in that limited context.

      As others have noted, post-9/11 there's no way that a couple guys with box cutters will ever succeed at that again. The passengers of Flight 93 demonstrated to the world that a plane full of passengers can easily overcome dipshits with box cutters. And since then, we've seen proof of that countless numbers of times -- passengers will in most circumstances unite against a hijacker, even if it means losing their own lives.

      But you want supposed "good guys" to carry guns on planes? No. People who believe that kind of pro-gun claptrap are the same people who promote stupid conspiracy theories, grow neckbeards, and live in their mother's basement. Oh, and they are probably AOL users, too.

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    4. Re:It's why the airport has metal detectors by rally2xs · · Score: 2

      "Say the hijacker is holding the flight attendant hostage. I shoot at him but hit the flight attendant."

      Your fault for taking a shot like that without being a certified expert marksman. What you really do is shoot the SOB from behind, which in a large population of potentially armed defenders, the bad guy cannot neutralize. Or he's standing right beside you as he's holding the stewardess hostage, and you put one up thru his ribcage and right into his heart from 6 inches away.

      "Ultimately, I'm afraid more guns means more shooting and more gun deaths."

      As Ghandi said, "Fear is the enemy. We think it is hate, but it is fear." We do horrific things because we are afraid, and disarming victims is one of them. Yes, there will undoubtedly be mistakes from time to time, but contrast that with a mental case with a couple semiauto pistols wading thru Virginia Tech and killing 32 innocents, and then himself. I have a friend who is an ex-Army Ranger, of college age at the time, who if he had been armed in one of these classrooms, the gunman would not have gotten a second shot, as this guy is absolutely deadly with any kind of firearm.

      "To go back to the school shooting, remember that some schools already have armed guards. Columbine's Deputy engaged the shooters and missed. Parkland's Deputy never even engaged."

      Columbine's 2 cops were cops, doing cop-things, and not where they needed to be, which was inside the school. One was out in the parking lot, and engaged the shooters from a distance without effect. The other was out running radar near the school, making revenue from the city but not protecting the students inside the building. And some of the problems with armed guards in schools that armed citizens in schools don't have are that everyone who is a potential shooter knows who to shoot first since they are wearing a uniform, there are always too few of them because they are expensive, they have other interests that can occupy their attention to the detriment of their ability to assist when a shooter does appear (like being gone, running radar to make the city some $$$$). Armed citizens in the schools do not have these problems - potential attackers have no idea how many enemy guns there are, who has them, and from which direction a defense will be mounted, nobody has to pay them to do it, and they have no reason to be anywhere else but inside the school where they may be needed to return fire should it occur.

      "And you hear all the time about cops with itchy trigger fingers who shoot people that clearly pose no threat to them. Imagine you're the good guy with a gun defending against the bad guys with guns, when the cops roll up. How do you expect them to know that you're not one of the bad guys?"

      Very easy. Cops, because they are good guys with rules, are required to shout, "Police, drop the gun" and you do it because you're the good guy. That's how they know. The bad guys will likely turn and attempt to fire at them, which is how they know that those people are the bad guys. Of course by the time the cops get there, you've already defended the kids and the perp is lying there bleeding, and you've reholstered your weapon anyway and probably giving the perp some 1st aid if you've gotten control of your hate for his attempt to harm your students.

      "So more people carrying guns means more accidental deaths,"

      Pure conjecture unsupported by reality.

      " far more irresponsible (drunk/crazy/violent) gun users endangering everybody."

      A fantasy propagated by the idea that somehow gun control laws work. Again, gun control laws only affect good guys. If this potential drunk / crazy / violent guy is a bad guy, he's going to have a gun if it pleases him to have a gun. The bad guys are bad guys because they ignore laws, and make no exception for gun laws. If they want to be armed, the will be. The only thing gun laws do is to create helpless victims. They should all be repealed.

  5. Re:WTF is "skyjacking"? by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 3, Informative

    Skyjackers are why we have airline security checks. Before that people just drove to the airport and got on airplanes. Airliners used to get hijacked *all the time* back then. There was a Monty Python bit where a man hijacks a bus and orders it to take him to Cuba, for example. But it's gone down the memory hole today, as you point out. There were also a bunch of left wing terrorist groups that bombed buildings and planted bombs on airliners and there been completely forgotten as well.

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  6. Railroad Retirement by McGruber · · Score: 4, Informative
    The summary says:

    notes that Clair, who spent his career in relatively low-level jobs, retired in 1973 when he was just 54 years old..

    Retiring at 54 from a railroad was not unusual back in the 70s -- it is one of the reasons Penn Central and other US freight railroads all went bankrupt!

    Railroad employees pay into the Railroad Retirement system (instead of Social Security), which provides really good retirement benefits. At age 54, he could have had 30 years of service if he had started at the railroad in 24 (after having served in the military.) Having been in "relatively low-level jobs" would mean he would have been earning overtime -- getting paid 1.5 times his hourly rate for every hour he "worked" over 40 hours. He was working in a heavily unionized industry, where overtime is handed out based upon seniority, so staying in "low level jobs" often made more financial sense than going into management.

    1. Re:Railroad Retirement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Furthermore, the DB Cooper money has never been spent! Aside from the bundle of cash found in 1980, none of it has surfaced in the monetary system. Kind of tough to retire if you never spent the cash.

    2. Re:Railroad Retirement by iggymanz · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You imagine the equipment and personnel to record serial numbers of bills passing by were common back then. Let me give you a hint, as someone who was there...no, it wasn't. Especially not in other countries that use the global currency that is the U.S. dollar.

      Only a fool would have spent the money near a large U.S. city

      A smart person would have laundered or spent the money elsewhere.

  7. Re:WTF is "skyjacking"? by Dan+East · · Score: 4, Interesting

    True, I didn't hear skyjacking used to describe the 9/11 flights either. The normal connotations of "skyjacking" are actually relatively peaceful, in that the motive isn't to kill everyone on board or weaponize the plane. Usually skyjackers wanted one of two things - to be flown to some other country, and / or money. They typically aren't suicidal, and typically do not actually intend on killing everyone on the plane or people on the ground. Many skyjackings were made with the mere threat of a bomb, or with something inert that looked similar to a bomb. I believe towards the end of that era the skyjackings did start to become more violent and innocent people started dying as officials began to crack down and upped the ante.

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  8. solid professional reputation by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 4, Funny

    Not any more

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  9. Re:WTF is "skyjacking"? by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 3, Informative

    “Skyjacking” came into use during those years as a newspaper headline term. Kids, ask your grandpa what a “newspaper” was.

  10. Re:WTF is "skyjacking"? by nukenerd · · Score: 4, Informative

    There was a Monty Python bit where a man hijacks a bus and orders it to take him to Cuba, for example.

    ... which comes at the end of a sketch (Here) where a man tries to hijack a plane flying to Cuba to divert it to Luton :-

  11. Re:WTF is "skyjacking"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    You never heard of it because you were a youngster and not paying attention to the TV news in the 70's.

    Grow up, fool.

  12. Re:WTF is "skyjacking"? by zieroh · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I still think "skyjack" is a bit of informal regional slang, or at least archaic by this century.

    It's not informal, regional, or slang. It's a well-understood term for American English speakers. Even if it was obscure, the subject and the base words ("sky" + "jack") lend themselves to a very easy contextual understanding of the word for almost any English-speaker.

    I don't think this was really such a mystery for you. I think you just wanted to whinge.

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  13. Re:WTF is "skyjacking"? by zieroh · · Score: 5, Funny

    The best term is airplane hijacking -- due to its unambiguous and clear nature.

    That's excessively verbose, which is the enemy of effective communication in English. Try German, down the hall and to the left.

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  14. Re: WTF is "skyjacking"? by Cmdln+Daco · · Score: 2

    There are also infrequent instances of aircraft being on the ground while in flight, that generally are rather brief moments.

  15. Another book coming along? by p51d007 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Seems like every time there is a new book, article, documentary..."DB Cooper" pops up. Give it up. He's dead, probably has been for decades, that is if he even survived.

  16. Re: wTF only $200,000 by SpammersAreScum · · Score: 4, Informative

    According to https://inflationdata.com/, the CPI was in 207.342 in 2007 and 245.120 in 2017; that's an 18.22% increase over those 10 years, not the 100% you are claiming.

    Late 1971 is 40.900 and late 2018 is 252.885, a multiplier of 6.175, making $200,000 then worth $1,235,000 today.