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Norwegian Company Plans To Power Their Cruise Ships With Dead Fish (theguardian.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Guardian: Waste fish parts will be used to power ships in a new initiative to use green energy for polluting cruise liners. The leftovers of fish processed for food and mixed with other organic waste will be used to generate biogas, which will then be liquefied and used in place of fossil fuels by the expedition cruise line Hurtigruten. Hurtigruten operates a fleet of 17 ships, and by 2021 aims to have converted at least six of its vessels to use biogas, liquefied natural gas -- a fossil fuel, but cleaner than many alternatives -- and large battery packs, capable of storing energy produced from renewable sources. Biogas can be generated from most forms of organic waste by speeding up and harnessing the natural decomposition process to capture the methane produced. Organic waste is produced by all food industries but is frequently disposed of in landfill, where it contributes to greenhouse gas emissions as it decomposes. Hurtigruten is currently building three new hybrid-powered cruise ships in Norway, to be delivered in the next three years.
Was it just me, or did anyone else, when first reading this, say "What's a bioga?"
If I can be modded down for being a troll, can I be modded up for being an orc, or a balrog?
Seems like live fish could tow better
So sorry. Move on APK
Argh. Can somebody do the math of this? How much energy does it take to to power this vessel? How much energy can be produced per unit of time? How much energy to recovery the fish? What's the energy efficiency of recovery of energy?
Normally I'd do a Fermi problem, but it doesn't even seem worth it. PURE PROTEIN has an energy density of protein is a little under 17 MJ/kg. Energy density of diesel is 48 MJ/kg. Looks like a fermentation process in involved, so the protein energy to about 8 MJ/kg.
Meanwhile wood and coal have about the energy density of pure protein.
Given that we don't make much use of wood and coal anymore (entirely biochemical processes, so therefore "green", supposedly) I call BS on this. This is a lie constructed for PR purposes to get the dumb gullible "media" that can't figure out the Skripal story in the UK is horse manure, to give out free coverage.
make little to no sense. Honestly Not trying to bully you. :) ok.
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Instead of powering Norsk cruise ships to carry around the One Percent, wouldn't it be better to use those dead fish as fertilizer to grow food to feed the other Ninety Nine Percent?
Think of all of the oil that won't be there 50,000,000 years from now!
I produce copious amounts of Biogas.
What do you call the crew finding the stash of sardines near the galley of a Norwegian cruise ship?
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Modern landfills are constructed in such a way to prevent things from decomposing. As that leads to all sorts of problems and can end up polluting the area and ground water. https://science.howstuffworks....
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They’re gonna stop eating that abomination known as “lutefisk” and instead power their ships with it?
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Enough to power a cruise ship.
So long and thanks for all the fish!
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I remember when it used to be conservatives who stereo-typically had no sense of humour and got offended easily.
It's a Ramjet for fish -- if you do it right.
See? Science Fiction dreams DO come true! (Well, it's a start.)
If the universe is someone's simulation -- does that mean the stars are just stuck pixels?
Big deal. So is my cat.
For those not into seafood, as chicken is to - uhm never mind.
As pork is to pig.
When asked why, the Captain replied, "Oh, we just did it for the halibut."
Table-ized A.I.
What are "raunch" jokes? Is it like a salad dressing, perhaps?
"stereo-typically"
What's with the hyphen? You realize that means typically in stereo, right?
Vegan less ships?
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Faros Chariot line consumed biomass for fuel, outcome was less than favorable.
http://horizonzerodawn.wikia.c... :
"Apparently a fisherman in the Banda Sea captured video of a Hartz-Timor Horus unit refueling via biomatter conversion along the shoreline of Pulau Wetar. On a pod of endangered dolphins, no less, quite possibly the last of their kind. Not to get graphic, but it looks like what happens inside a blender, as if the robot was whipping up a big pink swirling milkshake of dolphin chum."
Who logs in to gdm? Not I, said the duck.
which already use dead souls. Still, made me wonder if they tried live fish first. L
"stereo-typically"
What's with the hyphen?
I think I did it without thinking, to make the red squiggly line go away. Stoopid spellchecker.
Rather like 'biofuel', which is often wood pellets made from trees from rainforests, then shipped over to western countries, to be burnt in electricity generating plants. The stupidity of this is beyond belief - and all so a bunch of virtue signalling tossers can claim they are 'green'. Cutting down irreplacable rainforests, killing millions of animals, and enslaving thousands of indigenous people (by stealing their land). Sickening, isn't it.
What's next, walking fish ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
The two main repeating themes of cruise liners are fire and diarrhea. Surely someone should be able to figure out how to extract work from either (or both) of these phenomena and power the ships directly?
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I would not like being the one feding the ship boilers.
Who has the job or maintaining these things! Potentially the worst job ever.
In case of need I suppose it will be III class passenger's turn to be sacrificed for a higher good, the salvation of higher class passengers.
What are "raunch" jokes? Is it like a salad dressing, perhaps?
Raunch dressing is the one with the fishy flavor, of course.
> This is a lie constructed for PR purposes to get the dumb gullible "media" that can't figure out the Skripal story in the UK is horse manure, to give out free coverage.
Nice try at slipping some lies and propaganda into an unrelated story, Vlad. We all know you're guilty, fuck, we even now know the names of your agents and where they grew up. You screwed the pooch on that particular chemical weapons attack on the UK and it's too late to turn it around with propaganda, worse, we even caught your cleanup squad red handed on the continent when they tried to hack into the OCPW.
I know you're embarassed, but, well, there is a simple solution; don't pull shit like that when your nation is too inept to do it and pull it off.
I heard there's a Hungarian company that will power hovercraft with eels.
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I only want vegan electricity!
https://www.ecotricity.co.uk/o...
On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.
Gas made from food waste had been around in Scandinavia for some years now. It has powered mostly road vehicles: lorries and busses.
What may be somewhat novel is that it is being used to power a cruise ship.
And it does of course not need to be made from fish. Many types of organic material will do. It is just that food waste is widely available and people are willing to get it collected, they may even pay you for it.
"We mustn't be caught by surprise by our own advancing technology" -- Aldous Huxley
So now Republicans are the party of dirty jokes and sex, while "progressives" are easily-offended, uptight, stick-in-the-mud busybodies hell bent on telling other people how to live their private lives?
Guess I know who I'm voting for - I sure as hell don't need an emotional child telling me what I should be offended by.
Theoretically this is a good thing. It (cl)aims to be less wasteful and less polluting, though I suspect that fuel cost savings is the larger and unmentioned factor.
None the less, the stream of disingenuous announcements and clickbait stories have left me wanting to shit all over this article.
Why is this happening. Why is Slashdot and most other media turning me into an even more colossal cynic?
But harvesting millions of tons of fish to burn them as fuel seems sick to me.
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Look, biogas being made from recently deceased fish is not a fossil fuel. There never was a fossil.
It is as much a fossil fuel as corn originated ethanol, regardless of any opinion one might hold on the worth of that process.
Now it might be said to be compatible with fossil fuel natural gas in terms of its consumption in combustion engines but...
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An acceptable way to serve rollmops!
So you changed your vote based on that, or are you just full of shit? Telling people how to live privately is different than the public face of the country. Sorry, nice try. Also, someone else having a problem with something isn't telling you what to be offended by.
I remember when it used to be conservatives who stereo-typically had no sense of humour and got offended easily.
Still true.
Heck, if anyone gets offended over anything then conservatives will get even more offended over someone else being offended and start shouting about snowflakes.
Soon they will be offended over being criticized about being offended over someone else being offended about something.
The Gruaniad could power their web servers with dead fish, rather than begging for money from readers all the time.
Just a reminder, it was Tipper Gore (Al Gore's wife) that led the ban of rock music back in the 80's... history isn't what you remember it to be.
That is truly sad. I must be as old as you are.
In other news, since when is using current waste products to generate biogas described as "fossil" in any way, shape, or form?
SJW: a person who perceives an injustice, and while correcting it, commits a greater injustice.
So, fish sauce?
SJW: a person who perceives an injustice, and while correcting it, commits a greater injustice.
Was it just me, or did anyone else, when first reading this, say "What's a bioga?"
It's the spell above Bio and Biora.
Dead fish will also release nitrogen, where will that go? It is a usual pollution source from big farming.