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After Initially Calling The New York Times' Report False, Facebook Confirms Most Claims Made in the Story (nytimes.com)

Nellie Bowles and Zach Wichter, reporting for The New York Times: Joining a long tradition of companies and campaigns that drop bad news on holidays, Facebook on Thanksgiving eve took responsibility for hiring a Washington-based lobbying company, Definers Public Affairs, that pushed negative stories about Facebook's critics, including the philanthropist George Soros. Facebook's communications and policy chief, Elliot Schrage, said in a memo posted Wednesday that he was responsible for hiring the group, and had done so to help protect the company's image and conduct research about high-profile individuals who spoke critically about the social media platform. Mr. Schrage will be leaving the company, a move planned before the memo was released.

Facebook fired Definers last week, after a New York Times investigation published on Nov. 14. "Did we ask them to do work on George Soros?" Mr. Schrage wrote in the memo, a draft of which had circulated online earlier in the week. "Yes." He added: "I'm sorry I let you all down. I regret my own failure here." This is a change from just a few days ago, when Facebook wrote on Nov. 15 that the Times report was full of "inaccuracies." The same day, Sheryl Sandberg, the company's chief operating officer, posted on her Facebook page that she had no idea the company had hired Definers.


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  1. Yeah, bullshit by H3lldr0p · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You're sorry you guys got caught, not that you were doing anything wrong. Please go cry me a river somewhere else.

    1. Re: Yeah, bullshit by Evergreener · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Facebook needs to die a slow, public death.

    2. Re:Yeah, bullshit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Who writes this shit? Somebody, who is neither a russian/hungarian paid troll nor a conspiracy theorist.

  2. Typical response by DaMattster · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is the typical response of a corporation: deny and obfuscate until caught with the pants down to the ankles. May more bad shit happen to Mark Zuckerberg and Facebook.

  3. "a number of inaccuracies" != "false" by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Saying that a negative story contains "a number of inaccuracies" is classic weasel-wording - attempting to give the appearance of denial without actually stating an outright falsehood (for which they could get sued, if the truth came out).

    I didn't spend a whole lot of time reviewing the original Facebook statement, but I don't think they ever actually denied the central information in the Times report.

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    1. Re:"a number of inaccuracies" != "false" by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 4, Insightful

      0 is a number.

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  4. Too funny watching the left eat their own. by ErikTheRed · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Silicon Valley has this Janus-like political stance where they behave like caricatures of the most amoral greedy sociopathic businesspeople while ostentatiously parroting progressive dogma as if it somehow balances the whole thing out anywhere outside of their twisted little minds. The left happily and hypocritically ate it up while the negative aspects of their behavior were carefully hidden away, but now that the curtain has been pulled back the infighting has begun and now it's funny to watch.

    This isn't a blanket condemnation of business or progressives (there are plenty of outstanding people and organizations in both areas), but representative politics has a horrible way of bending the path of humanity towards kakistocracy (government by the worst possible people).

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    1. Re:Too funny watching the left eat their own. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      Silicon Valley has this Janus-like political stance where they behave like caricatures of the most amoral greedy sociopathic businesspeople while ostentatiously parroting progressive dogma as if it somehow balances the whole thing out anywhere outside of their twisted little minds. The left happily and hypocritically ate it up while the negative aspects of their behavior were carefully hidden away, but now that the curtain has been pulled back the infighting has begun and now it's funny to watch.

      This isn't a blanket condemnation of business or progressives (there are plenty of outstanding people and organizations in both areas), but representative politics has a horrible way of bending the path of humanity towards kakistocracy (government by the worst possible people).

      If that gibberish gets mod'ed up, I will link to that comment as a prime example of some of the ignorant loons on this site.
      Far starters, "progressive" and leftist" isn't what he thinks it means. And I think it laughable that the area of the country that has produced that most self-made millionaires and billionaires than any part of the World as being labeled as such is just absurd.

      But this is what political discourse has devolved to in the USA - and many parts of the World - just slinging labels that appear to be an insult to the author or speaker.

      But to address the article, facebook is doing exactly what a business does, makes money and mitigates any public relations damage anyway it can. There isn't any political agenda behind it at all and I can't believe anyone could possibly believe there is when there isn't a shred of evidence to support such a premise.

    2. Re:Too funny watching the left eat their own. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I don't see how anyone can see billionaire tech bros as "the left". Their entire philosophy and business model is "leech off the many, for the few". That's about as far from socialism as you can get.

      Of course they don't care if you're gay, have an abortion, are in a minority or are from another country; to them everyone is just a resource to further their own wealth and power. If they can parlay their indifference into some good PR then of course they will, but if it helps them they will not hesitate to treat anyone like shit; just because they do it indiscriminately doesn't make them progressive.

      Zuck has always been an a-moral toerag; whatever belief or allegiance he professes is only what he thinks will reflect best on him.

  5. Re:Where have we heard this before? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    This story is confusing. So Facebook gives accounts free to users and sells ads. Facebook users didn't want certain ads shown, and a PAC criticized them? Facebook then hired a lobbyist to criticize the PAC? So, what exactly did they do wrong, other than maybe cause an inconvenience for a class of users who they might write a small check to? It sounds like they did everything exactly the way they should have except when they screwed up showing these ads.

  6. Not a right or left thing by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Silicon Valley has this Janus-like political stance where they behave like caricatures of the most amoral greedy sociopathic businesspeople while ostentatiously parroting progressive dogma as if it somehow balances the whole thing out anywhere outside of their twisted little minds.

    Money corrupts (some) people regardless of politics but in many cases corrupt people excel in business because they already are amoral greedy sociopathic people.

    The real question is, how do stop corrupt behavior from benefiting? The correct answer is laws and regulations because you cannot force ethical behavior to occur but you can penalize unethical behavior.

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  7. Zuckerberg lies ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    After Initially Calling The New York Times' Report False, Facebook Confirms Most Claims Made in the Story

    Mark Zuckerberg, and the asshole corporation he founded, are based entirely on the premise that everything they say is a complete lie intended only to further their own goals.

    Mark Zuckerberg is a lying sack of shit. That's what his entire empire is founded on, being a lying sack of shit.

    So someone found out Mark Zuckerberg is a lying sack of shit, who paid some other lying sack of shit PR company to spread lies and disinformation about other people to distract people from him being a lying sack of shit, and then he further demonstrated himself to be a lying sack of shit by saying that Facebook would never do such a thing.

    I'm sorry, but what part of Mark Zuckerberg and his company are serial lying sacks of shit isn't immediately obvious?

    In all future instances where you find yourself thinking "gee, is Mark Zuckerberg and a lying sack of shit, and is his company a lying sack of shit", you need to stop and ask yourself if you really think you have counter examples to Mark Zuckerberg being a lying sack of shit.

    The answer should pretty much be that if you think Mark Zuckerberg is a lying sack of shit, he probably is a lying sack of shit.

    Fuck Zuck book.

  8. Re: Elon Musk, The Google guys... by astrofurter · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Are you suggesting that Big Brother Google, Faceboot, et al are NOT run by career criminals??