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Scientists Discover Rare Giant Viruses Lurking In Harvard Forest Soil (sciencealert.com)

MinutePhrase shares an article from ScienceAlert: There's a forest in Massachusetts that for nearly 30 years has hosted the world's longest running soil-warming experiment, measuring how hotter temperatures impact the tiny life-forms that live in the dirt... "Our goal was to isolate bacteria directly from the environment to understand how microbial communities are changing in response to soil warming," says biologist Jeff Blanchard from the University of Massachusetts Amherst (UMass)... In this oversized outdoor research laboratory, scientists have made an unexpected discovery, finding 16 rare 'giant' viruses that are completely new to science...

These giant viruses were only discovered this century, and up until now they've usually been found in aquatic habitats. For that reason alone the Harvard Forest discovery is remarkable, as this represents the first time giant viruses have been discovered in a terrestrial ecosystem, and all from a single clump of dirt... "We recovered 16 distinct giant virus genomes in this study," says one of the team, bioinformaticist Frederik Schulz from the Department of Energy's Joint Genome Institute," but we are merely scratching the surface. If we sample more at the same site this number would easily double, triple, or even quadruple."

94 comments

  1. A better article would answer questions by iggymanz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What hosts do these infect? How many genomes do they have! Can we put them in something now to have them mutiply?

    1. Re:A better article would answer questions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh look, someone who doesn't understand the difference between "just discovered" and "thoroughly studied for years so that we know it's entire life cycle, sequenced it's DNA and have figured out how to grow them in the laboratory."

    2. Re:A better article would answer questions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tupanvirus

      "...able to infect protists and amoebas, but pose no threat to humans."

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    3. Re:A better article would answer questions by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      yes and there are others: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    4. Re:A better article would answer questions by iggymanz · · Score: 0

      better sites confirm they have all been studied to that extent, asshole

    5. Re: A better article would answer questions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They find these on public telephones. You should always use hand sanitizer

    6. Re:A better article would answer questions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unlikely Harvard would give them to the likes of you, Iggy Pop

    7. Re:A better article would answer questions by phantomfive · · Score: 3, Informative

      Here's an article about giant viruses. The short answer is, "there's a lot we don't know and modern technology is giving us a ton of new techniques for seeing things."

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    8. Re: A better article would answer questions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They find these on public telephones. You should always use hand sanitizer

      Has the B-Ship left then? As it is another Ivy League article, the giant virii might be of the strain "Bu11shittu5 academica". Those infected keep going around an around in degrees, many even completing a fool circle.

    9. Re: A better article would answer questions by Aighearach · · Score: 2

      They find these on public telephones. You should always use hand sanitizer

      Yeah, you wouldn't want any algae growths on your hand to get sick when you make a phone call.

      Or worse, your hand bacteria could get a cold! Then you'd need gloves, or something.

      Think of the little ones!

      Oh, wait; about that hand sanitizer...

    10. Re:A better article would answer questions by grep+-v+'.*'+* · · Score: 2

      Can we put them in something now to have them multiply?

      Forget that -- can we put them in something now to STOP them from multiplying?

      Let's worry about the ON switch after we've found the OFF (or at least STOP) switch.

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    11. Re:A better article would answer questions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Answer to the first question is amoebas

    12. Re:A better article would answer questions by Hognoxious · · Score: 4, Funny

      They're very dangerous to humans. You can trip over them.

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    13. Re:A better article would answer questions by mevets · · Score: 1

      Also, why could they only get quadruple by sampling more? Is this an intrinsic property of giant viri or is there a hidden process which takes control at this point? So many questions.

    14. Re:A better article would answer questions by number6x · · Score: 1

      Thank you. Informative.

      Now I'm searching for an answer to another question...

      Why does the Department of Energy have a genome institute?

      That is a bizarre mashup.

    15. Re:A better article would answer questions by Gilgaron · · Score: 1

      For a virus, that's... deprive it of a host cell. Pretty easy! It is much harder to grow viruses than to fail to do so.

    16. Re:A better article would answer questions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Several bacterium and algae are used in the production of bio-fuel. These must be studied for long term environmental impact and modified to increase fuel yields.

      I can already tell by your tone though that my explanation won't be controversial enough for ya so try this one instead:
      George Soros wants to power the gay frog machine with the blood of your children.

    17. Re: A better article would answer questions by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      I was thinking about shooting some up into my nose after swimming to clear out any brain eating amoebas

    18. Re: A better article would answer questions by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      Now there is a brilliant product idea! Giant Virus Snuff! "Are You Man Enough, Bro?"

  2. Well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have no response to that

  3. Preference by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    So should my first preference be for Stanford instead?

    1. Re: Preference by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Definitely if youâ(TM)re in CS. Regardless of any virus. Though Harvard first year drop outs have done really well.

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  5. Giant viruses? by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

    How giant are we talking about? Should I invest in new door locks and reinforced windows?

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    1. Re:Giant viruses? by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      Yeah that's what I was thinking about, actually.

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    2. Re:Giant viruses? by Brett+Buck · · Score: 3, Funny

      The single dumbest Star Trek premise ever, this one makes even less sense that the one where Paris and Janeway turn into salamanders for no adequately explained reason, mate, and then the kids get left behind with no further thought.

              "Macro Virus" - get it? Just like in Word 6.0 documents...

            Oy Gevalt!

       

    3. Re:Giant viruses? by Brett+Buck · · Score: 1

      Some as big as a bacteria! Not exactly "Night of the Lepus", not even "The Crawling Eye" (guess what the monster was in that one...)

    4. Re:Giant viruses? by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      The single dumbest Star Trek premise ever is the fucking Xindi, where five fucking different sentient humanoid races all evolved on the same fucking planet.

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    5. Re:Giant viruses? by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 1

      Which inexorably leads to this...

    6. Re:Giant viruses? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Two sentient species evolved on earth.

    7. Re:Giant viruses? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      There's no such thing as a sentient Republican.

    8. Re:Giant viruses? by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      How giant are we talking about?

      They are each the size of a canned ham.

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    9. Re:Giant viruses? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Go be a little faggot retard. Now for those that are serious about science, Earth had two separate sentient species evolve on the same planet.

      Homo sapiens
      Homo neanderthalensis

    10. Re:Giant viruses? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Neanderthals and anatomically modern humans can and did interbreed, making us a single species which just had geographically isolated subpopulations for a little while: Homo sapiens ssp sapiens and Homo sapiens ssp neanderthalensis.

    11. Re:Giant viruses? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No they are two completely separate species. Breeding compatibility has no barring on it retard.

    12. Re:Giant viruses? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The origin of Neanderthals is not fully known by science, sorry. (I enjoy that a troglodyte-in-training like yourself uses such colorful language, though I doubt even a caveman would willingly breed with you)

    13. Re:Giant viruses? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You forgot to mention that other species, you know, the retarded drooling one that keeps posting that shit about a host file here.

    14. Re:Giant viruses? by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      Always.

      You should always invest in new door locks and reinforced windows.

      If you don't believe me, see the youtube channel lockpickinglawyer

    15. Re:Giant viruses? by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      Warning: Do Not Read John Varley, your head might explode.

    16. Re:Giant viruses? by jmccue · · Score: 1

      Homo sapiens, Homo neanderthalensis

      Maybe 3 (or even 4).

      Denisovan Floresiensis

    17. Re:Giant viruses? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Huh huh huh. You said homo.

    18. Re:Giant viruses? by DamnOregonian · · Score: 1

      I find it fascinating that you point to 2 species with a common ancestor who was undeniably sentient, and claim that they both "evolved" sentience.
      Sorry, AC. You may know a couple of big words, but with logic that bad, you probably struggle to dress yourself in the morning.

  6. Giants by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

    How many giants are around to be affected by these viruses??

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    1. Re:Giants by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are exactly 5 giants.

    2. Re:Giants by jfdavis668 · · Score: 2

      N.Y. Giants or S.F. Giants?

  7. Coincidence? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Rare Giant Viruses Lurking In Harvard Forest Soil

    Also, it should be noted, Harvard has a law school.

    1. Re: Coincidence? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They do? Never heard of them

  8. Re:My little creimer babies!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Too bad you didn't actually watch the video about protecting yourself from wildfire smoke. The Camp Fire was 180 miles away from the San Francisco Bay Area. The air quality there and throughout the state was worse than China and India.

  9. This will end poorly. by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 0

    Well now we know how nature is going to solve the overpopulation problem if we don't manage to reverse climate change.

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    1. Re:This will end poorly. by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      We already knew that, haven't you read The Green Brain by Frank Herbert?

      You think this is exciting, wait for the next stage of development.

  10. Here's what a Giant Virus is by skam240 · · Score: 4, Informative

    For those of you normals who also don't know how virus classification works a "giant virus" is this https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wik... . Basically they're large in size as far as virus' go which is still not very giant. This strikes me as one of those things that make sense when it's explained but why on Earth would a microscopic organism ever be described as giant?

    Anyways, nice summary slashdot.

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    1. Re:Here's what a Giant Virus is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, sort of like the giant shrimp they sell at the grocery store.

    2. Re:Here's what a Giant Virus is by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      why on Earth would a microscopic organism ever be described as giant?

      Relativity.

    3. Re:Here's what a Giant Virus is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You seem knowledgeable about viruses. Do they usually lurk or is that a behavior exclusive to this strain?

  11. You're a liar iggy moron. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're a liar iggy moron.

    1. Re:You're a liar iggy moron. by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      oh, and so these descriptions of genome size are made up?

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    2. Re:You're a liar iggy moron. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's become more clear is that you're not a scholar nor a microbiologist. None of those are the viruses discovered even if some are similarly sized, you nitwit.

    3. Re:You're a liar iggy moron. by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      corrrect, not a microbiologist which is why I asked.

      unlike you who know nothing at all.

  12. Re:APK Hosts File Engine 3.0++ for Linux/BSD... ap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    It's not that sort of virus, APK.

    And why would anyone want to use a product which is promoted by spamming comments?

  13. Great jokes Brett Buttfuck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your mom?

  14. IFO by cstacy · · Score: 1

    I, for one, welcome our gigantic overheated viral overlords.

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  16. Time to Thin the Herd? by zamboni1138 · · Score: 1

    Looks like it's once again time to thin out the herd. Please remember, keep the left lane open for people who know how to drive.

    1. Re:Time to Thin the Herd? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Looks like it's once again time to thin out the herd.

      Please remember, keep the left lane open for people who know how to drive.

      Can you try and explain how you've reached this conclusion based on the discovery of some new giant viruses, as it seems a gigantic stretch, and I think we might learn a lot about you based on the attempt.

  17. Six not five. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There were also the "avian" sentient species, which was apparently went extinct prior to Star Trek Enterprise.

    And yes, it was an extraordinarily dumb premise.

    1. Re:Six not five. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you thinking of The Skorr? They were still around in the original (animated) series.

      What exactly do you think is dumb about a sentient avian species?

  18. Re:IMPERSONATING ME AGAIN? apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Stay strong APK! Rise above the hate!

    They can't stop you or your hosts file engine, no matter what the version.

    You are the future!

  19. More Detail by Vanyle · · Score: 1

    From the article, for more detail make sure to look at the link to the nature.com article https://www.nature.com/article...

  20. Climate change? by Vanyle · · Score: 1

    Does this have anything to do with the warmer soil? It looks to be more a test of a new method of identifying the viruses than a test of this soil itself. This kind of crap give climate change deniers more reason to complain about the data that is shown.

    1. Re:Climate change? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Climate change denialists are morons who literally, literally use ANY POSSIBLE EVEN-UNRELATED EXCUSE to try to throw shade on science generally or just obfuscate from the data. Who fucking cares what those retards say anymore?

      They need to go extinct. It is in the interest of Earth's food chain and in fact life as we know it to hasten their departure.

    2. Re: Climate change? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      but the point of writing the article like this is to convert some, right? with the hysteria of "Look at these GIANT viruses that will kill us all from warmer soil" Just saying duck them won't change the world

    3. Re:Climate change? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When I see articles claiming climate change is destroying species at some alarming rate, and then see articles like *this* one, I can't help but conclude "so fucking what". You win some, you lose some. Species will adapt; species have come and gone since earth has cooled down enough for life to take a foothold and I see no reason to think this is about to change.

      I've read articles claiming we're all gonna die from diseases carried by an overwhelming number of insects that would not exist if it weren't from climate change. Yet there's articles claiming 90% of all insects are disappearing. Well, which is it?

      Look--I wanna believe as much as the next guy. But you can't keep making contradictory statements and then claim "the science is settled". And then call everyone else who doesn't share your views morons.

  21. "Lurking" OH NO! They are hiding, ready to attack! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't go in the woods! Danger!

  22. Re:My little creimer babies!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah and how do the people sitting next to you on the bus protect themselves when that bucket of burritos you inhaled starts working its way out?

  23. Species by BankRobberMBA · · Score: 2

    From the Oxford English Dictionary:

    1. Biology - A group of living organisms consisting of similar individuals capable of exchanging genes or interbreeding.

    So, barring the use of an unusual meaning of the word, breeding compatibility does have a direct bearing on it.

  24. Interesting technology used in the discovery by coastwalker · · Score: 2

    I am bowled over by the 96 channel microfluidic cell sampling gadget. To paraprase in english. It sucks in a sample of the forest microbes and deposits them in bunches of 5 to 15 in individual chambers, dowses them with lysis (cell wall breaking) chemicals in another chamber, finishes them off with something that breaks up the DNA and then puts them in another chamber to amplifly the DNA fragments. The resulting soup then goes in a DNA strand reader. And get this Slashdotters - the resulting sequences then go on to be processed "in silico" which for those at the back is a biologists way of saying "in a computer". The computer then uses some math to join up the strand sequences, compare the sequences between the 96 chambers and then to come out with a bunch of full and partial genomes of the 5 to 15 different cells in each chamber making use of gene librarys of previously fully sequenced organisms and viruses. They then go on to point out that some of these sequences are previously unknown to science and interestingly some of them are previously unknown giant viruses - viruses that are so large that they might be mistaken for bacteria by their size alone. A giant virus contains apparantly DNA which is found in no other organism and is also mostly made up of what we regard as junk DNA - that is DNA that does not code for specific functional proteins. There is speculation that the use of junk DNA to create new functional genes rather than mutations of existing functional genes may be a very ancient mechanism that life used to evolve by. Giant viruses could be a key to unlock the most ancient history of how life came into being. This certainly beats the latest clock frequency on an intel microprocessor for nerd interest I would say. What say you?

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    1. Re:Interesting technology used in the discovery by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I say clock frequency.

  25. OMG!!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's the Giant Virus that ate Boston!

  26. Re: My little creimer babies!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We're not going to watch your videos. Time for you to get a real job.

  27. Re: My little creimer babies!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Creimer should leave the FBI and go fulltime on YouTube.

  28. double standard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's only "fear mongering" when George W Bush does it.

  29. Just plain lazy editing... by Nexus7 · · Score: 1

    Fromt he summary,
    " finding 16 rare 'giant' viruses that are completely new to science...
    These giant viruses were only discovered this century,"

    Well yeah, since they were discovered recently enough to be reported as news, it would be in this century.
    Oh they mean, "Giant viruses were only discovered this century...", and not these 16 in particular.

    Now this is a summary that is basically a cut-n-paste of a summary from another site, but they couldn't bother to even read it first...

  30. IMPERSONATING ME AGAIN? apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    gweihir KNEW u IMPERSONATE me https://it.slashdot.org/commen... c6gunner proves it https://linux.slashdot.org/com... & forgot to SUBMIT AC & used his registered 'lusrname' (he tried to mock me both BEFORE & after I FAIRLY challenged him to show he's done better work - he had ZERO).

    I'd never "cry victim" to ne'er-do-wells (TROLLS, not all /.ers) either.

    U EVEN HELPED ME https://science.slashdot.org/c... (& then realizing it you quit trying to make me look bad via what you thought were lies on hosts as "ME" IN YOUR IMPERSONATIONS of me e.g. https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... on speculative execution attack: Hosts PREVENT 'EM, joke's on you)

    APK

    P.S.=> 2nd to last link's KILLING U THAT U HELPED ME & got me to see if hosts stop portsmash/meltdown/spectre & yes - hosts WORK on 'em - U LOSE + FAIL a PORTFILTER TEST https://yro.slashdot.org/comme...

  31. Biology is bug collecting ... not science by fygment · · Score: 1

    " ... we are merely scratching the surface. If we sample more at the same site this number would easily double, triple, or even quadruple."
    Umm ... you've never seen this before and you are making this prediction based on what exactly? One lump 16, two lumps 32, three lumps ....

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