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Scientists Discover Rare Giant Viruses Lurking In Harvard Forest Soil (sciencealert.com)

MinutePhrase shares an article from ScienceAlert: There's a forest in Massachusetts that for nearly 30 years has hosted the world's longest running soil-warming experiment, measuring how hotter temperatures impact the tiny life-forms that live in the dirt... "Our goal was to isolate bacteria directly from the environment to understand how microbial communities are changing in response to soil warming," says biologist Jeff Blanchard from the University of Massachusetts Amherst (UMass)... In this oversized outdoor research laboratory, scientists have made an unexpected discovery, finding 16 rare 'giant' viruses that are completely new to science...

These giant viruses were only discovered this century, and up until now they've usually been found in aquatic habitats. For that reason alone the Harvard Forest discovery is remarkable, as this represents the first time giant viruses have been discovered in a terrestrial ecosystem, and all from a single clump of dirt... "We recovered 16 distinct giant virus genomes in this study," says one of the team, bioinformaticist Frederik Schulz from the Department of Energy's Joint Genome Institute," but we are merely scratching the surface. If we sample more at the same site this number would easily double, triple, or even quadruple."

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  1. A better article would answer questions by iggymanz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What hosts do these infect? How many genomes do they have! Can we put them in something now to have them mutiply?

    1. Re:A better article would answer questions by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      yes and there are others: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    2. Re:A better article would answer questions by phantomfive · · Score: 3, Informative

      Here's an article about giant viruses. The short answer is, "there's a lot we don't know and modern technology is giving us a ton of new techniques for seeing things."

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    3. Re: A better article would answer questions by Aighearach · · Score: 2

      They find these on public telephones. You should always use hand sanitizer

      Yeah, you wouldn't want any algae growths on your hand to get sick when you make a phone call.

      Or worse, your hand bacteria could get a cold! Then you'd need gloves, or something.

      Think of the little ones!

      Oh, wait; about that hand sanitizer...

    4. Re:A better article would answer questions by grep+-v+'.*'+* · · Score: 2

      Can we put them in something now to have them multiply?

      Forget that -- can we put them in something now to STOP them from multiplying?

      Let's worry about the ON switch after we've found the OFF (or at least STOP) switch.

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    5. Re:A better article would answer questions by Hognoxious · · Score: 4, Funny

      They're very dangerous to humans. You can trip over them.

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    6. Re:A better article would answer questions by mevets · · Score: 1

      Also, why could they only get quadruple by sampling more? Is this an intrinsic property of giant viri or is there a hidden process which takes control at this point? So many questions.

    7. Re:A better article would answer questions by number6x · · Score: 1

      Thank you. Informative.

      Now I'm searching for an answer to another question...

      Why does the Department of Energy have a genome institute?

      That is a bizarre mashup.

    8. Re:A better article would answer questions by Gilgaron · · Score: 1

      For a virus, that's... deprive it of a host cell. Pretty easy! It is much harder to grow viruses than to fail to do so.

    9. Re: A better article would answer questions by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      I was thinking about shooting some up into my nose after swimming to clear out any brain eating amoebas

    10. Re: A better article would answer questions by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      Now there is a brilliant product idea! Giant Virus Snuff! "Are You Man Enough, Bro?"

  2. Preference by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    So should my first preference be for Stanford instead?

  3. Giant viruses? by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

    How giant are we talking about? Should I invest in new door locks and reinforced windows?

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    1. Re:Giant viruses? by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      Yeah that's what I was thinking about, actually.

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    2. Re:Giant viruses? by Brett+Buck · · Score: 3, Funny

      The single dumbest Star Trek premise ever, this one makes even less sense that the one where Paris and Janeway turn into salamanders for no adequately explained reason, mate, and then the kids get left behind with no further thought.

              "Macro Virus" - get it? Just like in Word 6.0 documents...

            Oy Gevalt!

       

    3. Re:Giant viruses? by Brett+Buck · · Score: 1

      Some as big as a bacteria! Not exactly "Night of the Lepus", not even "The Crawling Eye" (guess what the monster was in that one...)

    4. Re:Giant viruses? by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      The single dumbest Star Trek premise ever is the fucking Xindi, where five fucking different sentient humanoid races all evolved on the same fucking planet.

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    5. Re:Giant viruses? by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 1

      Which inexorably leads to this...

    6. Re:Giant viruses? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      There's no such thing as a sentient Republican.

    7. Re:Giant viruses? by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      How giant are we talking about?

      They are each the size of a canned ham.

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    8. Re:Giant viruses? by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      Always.

      You should always invest in new door locks and reinforced windows.

      If you don't believe me, see the youtube channel lockpickinglawyer

    9. Re:Giant viruses? by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      Warning: Do Not Read John Varley, your head might explode.

    10. Re:Giant viruses? by jmccue · · Score: 1

      Homo sapiens, Homo neanderthalensis

      Maybe 3 (or even 4).

      Denisovan Floresiensis

    11. Re:Giant viruses? by DamnOregonian · · Score: 1

      I find it fascinating that you point to 2 species with a common ancestor who was undeniably sentient, and claim that they both "evolved" sentience.
      Sorry, AC. You may know a couple of big words, but with logic that bad, you probably struggle to dress yourself in the morning.

  4. Giants by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

    How many giants are around to be affected by these viruses??

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    1. Re:Giants by jfdavis668 · · Score: 2

      N.Y. Giants or S.F. Giants?

  5. Here's what a Giant Virus is by skam240 · · Score: 4, Informative

    For those of you normals who also don't know how virus classification works a "giant virus" is this https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wik... . Basically they're large in size as far as virus' go which is still not very giant. This strikes me as one of those things that make sense when it's explained but why on Earth would a microscopic organism ever be described as giant?

    Anyways, nice summary slashdot.

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    1. Re:Here's what a Giant Virus is by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      why on Earth would a microscopic organism ever be described as giant?

      Relativity.

  6. Re:APK Hosts File Engine 3.0++ for Linux/BSD... ap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    It's not that sort of virus, APK.

    And why would anyone want to use a product which is promoted by spamming comments?

  7. IFO by cstacy · · Score: 1

    I, for one, welcome our gigantic overheated viral overlords.

  8. Time to Thin the Herd? by zamboni1138 · · Score: 1

    Looks like it's once again time to thin out the herd. Please remember, keep the left lane open for people who know how to drive.

  9. Re:You're a liar iggy moron. by iggymanz · · Score: 1

    oh, and so these descriptions of genome size are made up?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

  10. More Detail by Vanyle · · Score: 1

    From the article, for more detail make sure to look at the link to the nature.com article https://www.nature.com/article...

  11. Climate change? by Vanyle · · Score: 1

    Does this have anything to do with the warmer soil? It looks to be more a test of a new method of identifying the viruses than a test of this soil itself. This kind of crap give climate change deniers more reason to complain about the data that is shown.

  12. Re:This will end poorly. by Aighearach · · Score: 1

    We already knew that, haven't you read The Green Brain by Frank Herbert?

    You think this is exciting, wait for the next stage of development.

  13. Species by BankRobberMBA · · Score: 2

    From the Oxford English Dictionary:

    1. Biology - A group of living organisms consisting of similar individuals capable of exchanging genes or interbreeding.

    So, barring the use of an unusual meaning of the word, breeding compatibility does have a direct bearing on it.

  14. Interesting technology used in the discovery by coastwalker · · Score: 2

    I am bowled over by the 96 channel microfluidic cell sampling gadget. To paraprase in english. It sucks in a sample of the forest microbes and deposits them in bunches of 5 to 15 in individual chambers, dowses them with lysis (cell wall breaking) chemicals in another chamber, finishes them off with something that breaks up the DNA and then puts them in another chamber to amplifly the DNA fragments. The resulting soup then goes in a DNA strand reader. And get this Slashdotters - the resulting sequences then go on to be processed "in silico" which for those at the back is a biologists way of saying "in a computer". The computer then uses some math to join up the strand sequences, compare the sequences between the 96 chambers and then to come out with a bunch of full and partial genomes of the 5 to 15 different cells in each chamber making use of gene librarys of previously fully sequenced organisms and viruses. They then go on to point out that some of these sequences are previously unknown to science and interestingly some of them are previously unknown giant viruses - viruses that are so large that they might be mistaken for bacteria by their size alone. A giant virus contains apparantly DNA which is found in no other organism and is also mostly made up of what we regard as junk DNA - that is DNA that does not code for specific functional proteins. There is speculation that the use of junk DNA to create new functional genes rather than mutations of existing functional genes may be a very ancient mechanism that life used to evolve by. Giant viruses could be a key to unlock the most ancient history of how life came into being. This certainly beats the latest clock frequency on an intel microprocessor for nerd interest I would say. What say you?

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  15. Just plain lazy editing... by Nexus7 · · Score: 1

    Fromt he summary,
    " finding 16 rare 'giant' viruses that are completely new to science...
    These giant viruses were only discovered this century,"

    Well yeah, since they were discovered recently enough to be reported as news, it would be in this century.
    Oh they mean, "Giant viruses were only discovered this century...", and not these 16 in particular.

    Now this is a summary that is basically a cut-n-paste of a summary from another site, but they couldn't bother to even read it first...

  16. Re:You're a liar iggy moron. by iggymanz · · Score: 1

    corrrect, not a microbiologist which is why I asked.

    unlike you who know nothing at all.

  17. Biology is bug collecting ... not science by fygment · · Score: 1

    " ... we are merely scratching the surface. If we sample more at the same site this number would easily double, triple, or even quadruple."
    Umm ... you've never seen this before and you are making this prediction based on what exactly? One lump 16, two lumps 32, three lumps ....

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