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Trump Says He Doesn't Believe Government Climate Report Finding in a New Low (apnews.com)

President Donald Trump on Monday rejected a central conclusion of a dire report on the economic costs of climate change released by his own administration. Associated Press reports: But economists said the National Climate Assessment's warning of hundreds of billions of dollars a year in global warming costs is pretty much on the money. Just look at last year with Hurricanes Harvey, Maria and Irma, they said. Those three 2017 storms caused at least $265 billion in damage, according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. The climate report, quietly unveiled Friday, warned that natural disasters are worsening in the United States because of global warming. It said warming-charged extremes "have already become more frequent, intense, widespread or of long duration." The report noted the last few years have smashed U.S. records for damaging weather, costing nearly $400 billion since 2015.

"The potential for losses in some sectors could reach hundreds of billions of dollars per year by the end of this century," the report said. It added that if emissions of heat-trapping gases continue at current levels, labor costs in outdoor industries during heat waves could cost $155 billion in lost wages per year by 2090. The president said he read some of the report and "it's fine" but not the part about the devastating economic impact. "I don't believe it," Trump said, adding that if "every other place on Earth is dirty, that's not so good."

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  1. For skeptics and "believers" alike... by taiwanjohn · · Score: 4, Interesting

    In order to avoid looking foolish, it would be a good idea to familiarize oneself with the work of Peter Hadfield, aka Potholer54. He knocks down the common myths and misconceptions on both sides of the issue, often with good humor, and always with peer-reviewed science. Well worth the time.

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  2. Re:Here's Trump by Freischutz · · Score: 5, Interesting

    From McConnell's perpspetive he ain't doing too bad : he got what he wanted. Conservative judges filling all the vacanices across the country, 2 (and maybe more) ultra conservative supreme court justices and THE FUCKING NEW TAX CODE (ie stealing from the poor to appease the rich). He has no problem kissing Trump's ass, doing him a blowjob or worse.

    Yes, but on a purely personal level McConnell deeply despises Trump, you can tell when he talks about the guy, no matter how hard he tries to hide it it always shines through. Kowtowing to Trump like the Jade Emperor of China and heaping ridiculous praise on Trump is clearly deeply galling to old Mitch. He'll do it alright, but that does not mean he likes it. For Mitch kowtowing to Trump is probably much like cleaning the toilet is to the rest of us, we don't like doing it but not cleaning the toilet is worse. Mitch, of course, has a servant who cleans his toilets for him, but making an ass of himself by kowtowing to Trump and flattering him in public is the one job Mitch can't outsource.

  3. Re: Of course it's not a new low by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Over 85% of slave traders were Muslim.

    Only 1.2% of Americans owned slaves at the height of the slave industry in the Americas.

  4. Or the UN climate report by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'd pretty much stick to the UN climate report. It runs a bunch of scenarios, and seems to be a bit on the conservative side.

    False equivalence arguments are a common deception strategy. It lets someone put out a false extreme as if it carries equal weight to the reasoned (usually dull middle of the road) explanation. Then the false equivalence compares them both as if they were equally valid, and pretends to be the measured middle ground. It isn't.

    This "false extreme" is the Fox News game. Take children from their parents at the border, becomes "children saved from human traffickers pretending to be their parents". Wanting healthcare from children and old people become "socialist healthcare to overload hospitals and make people die"..... Kashoggi, the journalist the Saudi Prince tortured live on WhatsApp becomes an "ISIS terrorist" that the Saudi's saved USA from.

  5. Re:Of course it's not a new low by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This is the government that enslaved million of black Africans for profit.

    A trade which still exists today in the Middle East:
    https://www.theguardian.com/gl...

  6. Re:2nd amendment rights by GameboyRMH · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm not so sure. The main thing to fear from Pence is open war against the LGBT community and women. Trump's doing a decent job at those on his own. In other areas, I don't expect Pence would be remarkably bad by Republican standards. He won't pointlessly start trade wars or hilariously fuck up foreign policy (including being Russia's and Saudia Arabia's bitch) or consider bombing/invading countries on a whim.

    Pence would probably be like a homophobic/chauvinistic Bush Jr. minus Cheney/Rove pounding the war drums (I think he could ignore John "Ares" Bolton), which doesn't sound so bad compared to the status quo.

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  7. Re:He's 71 by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1, Interesting

    If he were only senile it'd be an improvement. He's an immature manchild, a dysfunctional psychopath (most politicians are either non-psychopaths or functional psychopaths), and a pathological liar (Evidence: he could not stop lying in a simulated scenario in which he was asked not to lie for the purpose of proving that he could avoid lying).

    He may or may not be senile but that's the icing on the towering wedding cake of his mental problems.

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  8. Re:Here's Trump by sinij · · Score: 4, Interesting

    He'll do it alright, but that does not mean he likes it. For Mitch kowtowing to Trump is probably much like cleaning the toilet is to the rest of us, we don't like doing it but not cleaning the toilet is worse.

    It doesn't really make any difference what he thinks in private, he is a public servant and his public actions - unequivocal support of Trump - speak for themselves. In supporting Trump he shares responsibility for undermining norms and causing severe damage to US reputation and international standing.

    If there was a crime "Moral negligence causing decline of USA", then Mitch McConnell would be guilty as a co-conspirator.