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CeBIT, World's Largest IT Conference, Canned (dw.com)

Despite turning the trade fair into a fun fair, organizers could not save the beloved but struggling trade fair. CeBIT once boasted 850,000 visitors a year, but that heyday has long since passed. An anonymous reader shares a report: Organizers announced on Wednesday that the world's largest IT conference will be no more. CeBIT, held every year in Hanover, Germany, has been canceled for 2019 facing declining visitor numbers and decreases in exhibition space rentals. "There will be no more CeBIT in Germany in the future," said Onuora Ogbukagu of Deutsche Messe AG, which ran the trade fair that hosted the likes of Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak and data privacy advocate Edward Snowden.

CeBIT was once considered the best barometer of technological trends, and during the dot-com boom in the late 90s and early 2000s, it boasted some 850,000 visitors a year. However, that number has been declining for years, despite cultivating a 'fun fair' atmosphere. The news was met with an outpouring of gratitude for the conference-meets-festival on social media, with many calling it the "end of an era."

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  1. You have to wonder about the economic impact by bobstreo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    All the lost money from travel agencies, airlines, hospitality companies, hotels, restaurants, schwag makers... And the taxes lost on those sales. Oh well.

    1. Re:You have to wonder about the economic impact by alvinrod · · Score: 3

      Hanover and some of the businesses there will likely see a dip, but it just means that everyone who previously went to CeBit now has the money to go somewhere else instead or to spend that money on something entirely different instead.

      There's a new largest IT conference now, and perhaps it's seeing an increase in attendance as it absorbs some of the crowd that only went to CeBit.

    2. Re: You have to wonder about the economic impact by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I remember seeing Steve Wozniak there in front of the main expo area. I pointed him out, telling my friend it was woz. My friend said oh hes evil. I said no you are thinking of the other Steve.

    3. Re:You have to wonder about the economic impact by bickerdyke · · Score: 1

      and probably neither last nor least prostitutes.

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    4. Re:You have to wonder about the economic impact by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is an IT conference, not a sales conference.

    5. Re:You have to wonder about the economic impact by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      no way!

    6. Re: You have to wonder about the economic impact by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Steve Ballmer!

    7. Re: You have to wonder about the economic impact by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Steve my-dick-in-your-mouth, hold still

    8. Re: You have to wonder about the economic impact by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Steve Reimer, the trim, fit, successful, handsome, athletic, healthy, and sexually potent brother of Chris Reimer?

    9. Re:You have to wonder about the economic impact by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      And no wasted CO2 for people traveling halfway across the planet for a "fun fair". Seriously, people need to start submitting their travel requests to a council of some kind that decides if it'w worth it for the environment.

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    10. Re: You have to wonder about the economic impact by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I took a photo of him but it's blurred because I took it quick so he wouldn't see me

    11. Re: You have to wonder about the economic impact by Provocateur · · Score: 1

      Will somebody please think of the booth babes?I was hoping that they were the last to go extinct. Ah well (puts on armored breastplate), there's always comic Con!

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    12. Re:You have to wonder about the economic impact by mikael · · Score: 1

      Those conference centres are always fully booked with all sorts of conferences. They will find others to fill the space:

      https://www.eventbrite.com/d/g...

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  2. COMDEX, anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Same thing happened to COMDEX. Used to be a huge show in Vegas every year, but vendors, why wait for a show when you can announce the product on your website, and customers, why go to a show when you can see it on the web?

    Also, frosty piss.

    1. Re:COMDEX, anyone? by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      Comdex died when it basically just became the Microsoft show. Not exactly buzzing with excitement.

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  3. Does anyone know why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I remember going there in the 2000s, and it was considered THE IT fair.
    I never left, without at least one job offer.

    If they had not changed from back then, I don't see why any of that would have changed.
    So: Anyone who went there more than once: What exactly caused this downturn?
    Was it that "fun fair" thing? Cause I don't remember that. (Apart from maybe the graphics card and game input device vendors.)

    1. Re:Does anyone know why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      roughly put.

      Different Year, Different Name, Same Shit.

      captcha : strolls

    2. Re: Does anyone know why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Internet as per usual. It's the whipping boy du jour.

    3. Re:Does anyone know why? by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Couple of reasons:

      * Tech has become bery boring and/or very little innovation (i.e. not really different from last year)
      * Bloggers / Internet let you preview the latest tech in the comfort of your own home
      * Traveling has become more tedious

      In the 90's we saw PCs go from 50 MHz to 550+ MHz. Today Intel offers incremental upgrades. Today's tech has become ho-hum, yawn.

      Happens to all stable markets eventually. I don't see it being disrupted anytime soon.

    4. Re:Does anyone know why? by mermeid007 · · Score: 1

      Some of those products had been bombing for quite a while. I wonder what will happen to them.

    5. Re:Does anyone know why? by iampiti · · Score: 1

      Yep, tech progress was amazing in the 80s and 90s. Now it's small increments and so the changes from year to year are pretty small.
      My PC is from 2014, I wonder how long I'll be able to use it as a system that can do 90% of the things the best can do. At the rate things are going the hardware will probably fail sooner than it'll be obsolete

    6. Re:Does anyone know why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is bery voring inbeeb...

    7. Re:Does anyone know why? by TeknoHog · · Score: 1

      In the 90's we saw PCs go from 50 MHz to 550+ MHz. Today Intel offers incremental upgrades.

      Who needs upgrades when an Intel CPU from 2004 is enough to run the latest applications:

      $ grep 'name\|bugs' /proc/cpuinfo
      model name : Intel(R) Celeron(R) M processor 1.40GHz
      bugs : cpu_meltdown spectre_v1 spectre_v2 spec_store_bypass l1tf

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  4. Its all about phones now. by jellomizer · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I think the problem is technology now is so Phone Based today, that there is really anything interesting to show.
    Look my Glass rectangle is superior to your Glass rectangle because it has more dots that you cannot see then the other guys.

    Then the rest are just Apps.

    Sure you can cover cloud stuff, but that isn't really that interesting, as you probably need to show it off on an App on your glass rectangle.
     

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    1. Re:Its all about phones now. by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      I dunno... nowadays with the internet and the web, we generally know pretty much every detail of every product, even prior to production (and often prior to the company announcing it). So what purpose does attending these trade shows accomplish any more?

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    2. Re:Its all about phones now. by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      There was the tactile aspect to it. They can say they have the thinnest laptop, but you may not realize it until you really see it. measurements don't always help, screen only views rarely put things in the correct context. Also half the fun is having these vendors go off script to see what really is happening. I remember back in 2001/2 I was at an expo and Microsoft was showing off web services in .NET all was fine and good until I asked them to transfer over a Dictionary Data type. where the code promptly failed and they had to write code to convert it. Now I knew the limitations was on primitive variables, and when business wen't to .NET because they would do so anyways back then. I knew the limitations and was better at using it, also letting the buyers know beforehand that it isn't as magical as they said it was.

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    3. Re:Its all about phones now. by kzwork · · Score: 1

      That is why Apple is a phone company now.

    4. Re:Its all about phones now. by qwertyatwork · · Score: 1

      Screw you pal, MY glass rectangle is way superior to yours!

  5. Comdex all over by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anyone remember Comdex? Back then Palm was all the rage. Boy did Palm fuck up their chance, they could have easily been Apple with a decent phone like the Iphone. They even had the tech and capability to do it.

    Now Comdex, Palm, and many others are for the most part dead. Good times.

    1. Re: Comdex all over by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I caught the last day of a comdex- thrilling and not what I had anticipated

    2. Re:Comdex all over by doconnor · · Score: 1

      They created WebOS, which could hold its own against Apple, but it came out a bit late and didn't work out.

    3. Re:Comdex all over by viperidaenz · · Score: 1

      webOS runs LG smart TV's

  6. Meh by DarkOx · · Score: 2

    I mean is this a surprise. COMDEX has been dead and buried for more than a decade now. If there is any surprise at all here its that CeBIT lasted this long.

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    1. Re:Meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      CeBIT was quite a bit larger and quite a bit more influential.

  7. you mean? by satsuke · · Score: 2

    You mean COMDEX isn't being held anymore?

    Oh wait, it's not 2002.

  8. That's What Happens... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...when you ban booth babes.

    1. Re:That's What Happens... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My favorite one was Ceren Ercen. That curvy little demonette launched many knuckle children back then...

    2. Re:That's What Happens... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wouldn't be the first time. I remember there was a big video game convention that people were saying was some day going to "replace E3" but then they went all SJW and banned all booth babes (along with having SJW junk about "gaymers" or something stupid like that) and now they're completely irrelevant while E3 is still ... well, going. For now.

    3. Re:That's What Happens... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      when you ban booth babes.

      Isn't prostitution legal in Germany? You could put the booth babes out front to get people to stop by for a quick blow and tug before getting on with the rest of the show.

    4. Re:That's What Happens... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I dont think CeBit ever had booth babes.

    5. Re:That's What Happens... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's the reason they went bankwupt :)

  9. travel is redundant by swell · · Score: 1, Interesting

    There are exceptions: for kids, Disneyland will be a thrill; for adults going to a restaurant is nice. But going to another city, another country is not rewarding.

    You already know what that city is like. You've seen pictures and videos, you know something about the geography, the history, the current reputation of that city. When you get there you will probably confirm what you already know. You will go to tourist traps, places where nobody who lives there will go. You will spend money, lots of money. You will deal with the chaos of taxis, hotels, airlines and security intrusions.

    Better to visit the city via books, movies, YouTube, etc. If it's for business, use the internet.

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    1. Re:travel is redundant by Kjella · · Score: 1

      You will go to tourist traps, places where nobody who lives there will go.

      Well, IMHO you have to go one way or the other - either you need to visit the unique tourist attractions or you have to find the real local culture. The middle ground is full of dull global chains and streets that looks just like any other city. I mean if I think about most "tourist traps" locally it's not like I've never been to them, but once is often enough. Same when you go places, been at the Eiffel Tower: check. Been to Brandenburger Tor: check. Been to the Parthenon: check. It's not something I need to do ten times or a hundred times, more like crossed off the bucket list. Other times it's getting away from the tourist areas and find a local place that is genuine, like a real British pub with ordinary people. If you don't do either then travelling is really a dud.

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    2. Re:travel is redundant by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 2

      Fuckin' seriously? "Not rewarding"? What a crock of shit. Who made you judge? Seeing videos is the same as going there? Not all of us are hopeless homebodies. Who modded you up?

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    3. Re:travel is redundant by swell · · Score: 1

      I've been to many cities and, offhand, I can't think of any that surprised me. I was slightly surprised at the lingering racism in Houston, and the cold summer in San Francisco. I fully expected rain in Seattle, depressed people in Detroit, laid back citizens at the Ensenada fish market, and dark undercurrents during Mardi Gras. So what did I gain by actually going there?

      If you want adventure, look elsewhere. Take a city bus to a part of your city that you have avoided and explore every corner on foot. Try doing something: learn a language or musical instrument; volunteer at a homeless shelter; become a regular at the most notorious gay bar in town. Get physical in a new way: rock climbing; tai chi; scuba diving... Do something that will open your eyes, sharpen your mind, bring you to life before you die.

      There are spectator activities and there are real activities. If your travel somehow involves something more than spectating, maybe it's good for you. That could be true if you are commissioned to design a public building or supervise a sociology study or map the sewers of the city. It could be true if you plan to spend six months in a small foreign town or commute daily on an Indian railway. Americans mostly spectate at home and abroad.

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    4. Re:travel is redundant by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      We rarely agree on much it seems, but in this we do. Looking at videos is nothing like visiting in person.

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    5. Re:travel is redundant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you're saying that it can't be rewarding to say go to Iceland and experience Geysers, all the very smelly holes in the ground, natural hot baths, northern lights and lots of other stuff? Or going to Yellowstone (to get a similar experience, but for Americans, who don't travel to other countries, because Murica...)?

    6. Re:travel is redundant by skam240 · · Score: 1

      I've just come off disagreeing with DNS about a bunch of shit but I have to say you have no clue. Your description of foreign travel portrays your antisocial bias. If you make it as boring as you describe it then yes, foreign travel will be boring and lame. But so will anything else with such a boring attitude.

      If you make it less about physically seeing lame tourist sites you can see photos of and more about actually experiencing the fucking country you're in then you can be in for incredible experiences.

      Sadly, based off your post those experiences might be incomprehensible to you.

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    7. Re:travel is redundant by TeknoHog · · Score: 1

      You will go to tourist traps

      Hell no! I'll couchsurf with the locals and find the real culture, just like every other hipster does these days. Later I'll post something sad about having had to fly there, and promising to plant some trees to compensate for the CO2 emissions.

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    8. Re:travel is redundant by NormalVisual · · Score: 1

      Fuckin' seriously? "Not rewarding"? What a crock of shit. Who made you judge? Seeing videos is the same as going there?

      Gotta agree here. Even the popular tourist spots can sometimes have something unique to offer. Mont St. Michel offers a totally different experience when you actually stay overnight and can roam around at night when the vast majority of tourist traffic is gone for the day.

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    9. Re:travel is redundant by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      I've just come off disagreeing with DNS about a bunch of shit but I have to say you have no clue.

      Strong words!

      Your description of foreign travel portrays your antisocial bias.

      That's a lot to get out of me saying "Looking at videos is nothing like visiting in person.".

      If you make it as boring as you describe it then yes, foreign travel will be boring and lame. But so will anything else with such a boring attitude.

      To each his own. Personally I like to experience the place. If you think anything that's not simply like looking at videos online is "boring and lame" and "antisocial" then, well, I guess it's a good job we're not travelling together.

      If you make it less about physically seeing lame tourist sites you can see photos of and more about actually experiencing the fucking country you're in then you can be in for incredible experiences.

      You just said that was "boring and lame" right up there!

      Or maybe you responded to completely the wrong post? Or prehaps you read soething by someone else and assumed I wrote it. Who knows! You might be wrong but at least you're angry, rude and condescending about it.

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    10. Re:travel is redundant by turp182 · · Score: 1

      You're kidding right?

      Last weekend we visited Houston and went to NASA. I got to see a real Saturn 5 rocket. Perspective from photos is nothing compared to personal perspective. Holy Shit! That thing is huge! The mock space shuttle (attached to one of the 747s they did use to move actual shuttles) could fit inside the first stage.

      How about hiking up mountains (not mountain climbing)? We've done that in Arizona and Colorado, the climb is the experience, the vista is just a touch of icing (and then a thunderstorm forms out of no where, temps drop 40f, and we use emergency gear for the first time).

      And we went to the Galapagos. Seven day cruise, visited about 12 islands. Yeah, travel sucked, Quito, Ecuador is really dangerous (armor clad shotgun carrying guard outside of a not-high-end shoe shop?). But once on the ship (20 passengers, 9 crew) it became a surreal experience. My own photos of boobies (a bird), penguins, and flamingos (yeah, they are all there in a very small biome) take me back.

      Travel sucks. I don't mind road trips though, but we did have a particularly nasty hotel on our way home from Houston.

      We don't travel much, but we travel well when we do.

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  10. Re:Why bother? by viperidaenz · · Score: 1

    They used to do ARM, but Japan owns that now.

  11. Re:Why bother? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nope, you must be thinking of the US.

  12. Innovation as a whole seem to have gone down. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I mean all the "creative industries" (which is an oxymoron anyway, but whatever) only keep recycling the same old shit again and again. They even made up a bullshit concept for it, called "intellectual property", and act like that's actually a real thing. (Slashdot of the late 90s and early 2000s, when people still had a clue, before the propaganda began, would have laughed them out of the universe for it.)

    Nearly all we get is Nazi Übersoldat... err, I mean "superhero" movies, mumble (c)rap, for-profit-manipulative open-world mmorpg mass-murder simulators, and other things built entirely from worn-out tropes.

    And research, curiosity and education generally are treated stepmotherly.
    Nobody dares anything anymore. Everyone is obsessed with "safety" and "security" over curiosity and openness. Pointing fingers at unknowns and shadows, hiding in fear.

  13. Here is a better idea by GbrDead · · Score: 1

    Why not just move it to Cannes?

  14. Two reasons by Kokuyo · · Score: 2

    Tech has gotten pretty repetitive. You have either uninspired iterations of established things or promises that lead nowhere.

    VR, modular smartphones and many other things that get our little nerd hearts beating the imperial march... they've been promised to us and then killed or delivered in what I'll call a subpar experience with a lot of goodwill on my part.

    A new CPU (as opposed to all the rebrandings they are doing) from Intel might be exciting. A good GPU from AMD too.

    RTX had the potential to be something but fell flat on its face because some schmuck couldn't keep it in his pants until developers were read yto awe us.

    Second: Ya had to get rid of the booth babes, didn't ya. If I want an absolute sausage fest, I'll go to VMworld, thank you very much.

  15. CeBit has long run its course. by Qbertino · · Score: 1

    Back in the day it was the IT conference to be. But with an abundance in hardware and google and Apple events streamed around the globe instantly the need for these IT fairs has vanished.
    I was there back in the 90did and it was the most hyped global event. These days republica, sxsw and other meta events are sort of hype, and only hacker events such as ccc are still where they used to be.

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    1. Re:CeBit has long run its course. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even hacker events are boring. Defcon has gone full SJW with a code of conduct, pushing rape crisis lines in their program as if that's some kind of epidemic there, and basically killing anything fun that hackers used to enjoy.

  16. Re: Why bother? by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

    Yep, we're 'ARMless now. Please don't hurt us.

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  17. Re: Why bother? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm not sure you've noticed, but we're not exactly agrarian, nor did we become a place made out of 50% of banks and 50% of movie sets, so industry it is.

  18. Re:Why bother? by mikael · · Score: 1

    Saudi's have investments in SoftBank

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  19. Still a barometer? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    CeBIT was once considered the best barometer of technological trends

    Well, perhaps it still continues with its barometering by the action of going to the can.

  20. A great win for Knoppix users? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No more CeBIT only editions to draw out release cycles with!