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Aston Martin Will Make Old Cars Electric So They Don't Get Banned From Cities (theverge.com)

Aston Martin announced this week that it's starting a "Heritage EV" program where owners of classic Aston Martins can have their cars converted to an all-electric powertrain. The British automaker said they are starting this program so that classic cars don't get banned from cities that are moving to shun internal combustion engines in favor of boosting air quality for residents. The Verge reports: Aston Martin says the technology for these conversions will be built on "key components" being used to develop the Rapide E, a super-limited all-electric sports car due late next year. The Rapide E will use an 800-volt, 65kWh battery, offer "over 200 miles" of range, and feature a sub-4-second 0-60 mph time, as well as a top speed of 155 miles per hour. Only 155 of them will be sold, too. So the best way to get a taste of Aston Martin's electric future might actually be one of these EV conversions.

The automaker says the first car it will develop a conversion plan for is the 1970 DB6 MkII Volante. Aston Martin will build Rapide E-inspired "cassettes" that can essentially slide in where the original engine and gearbox used to be, and will even be attached to the same mountings. A new screen will be fitted in the car's interior, but otherwise, little else is changed. This also means that, should an owner change their mind, and also have the money (which, come on, of course they do), they should be able to change it back if they so desire.

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  1. I doubt tthat reason... by bickerdyke · · Score: 5, Informative

    Even here in Germany, classic cars are exempt from most air qualityrules (and even regular car taxes) so I doubt that would be a problem anywhere else.

    But then, this is pretty cool and catapults classic cars into the 21st century.

    And best of it is: A company is showing dedication to their own products and is not trying to obsolete their old products as fast as possible to sell a few more new ones. That's the long term support i want to see from phone manufacturers.

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    1. Re:I doubt tthat reason... by Kokuyo · · Score: 5, Interesting

      You won't see this from phone manufacturers. While many devices, not just Apple's, are priced like luxury objects, they are still very much mass produced commodity items.

      Aston Martin does not make commodity items. You usually do not buy an Aston Martin for your commute. Aston Martin sells you a dream. And dreams are something people cultivate.

    2. Re: I doubt tthat reason... by Freischutz · · Score: 3, Informative

      What are you going to do next? Put nuclear power in a model A?

      Been done and abandoned as impractical: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    3. Re:I doubt tthat reason... by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Sports cars are the ideal vehicles to convert. Even newer ones tend to have longitudinal engines which means lots of room in the engine bay, so no weird engineering problems trying to fit stuff into the vehicle. The only big problem is the battery. For older vehicles it's not much of a problem, but newer ones often have oddly-shaped fuel tanks for packaging reasons.

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  2. Will that include by rossdee · · Score: 4, Funny

    James Bonds DB5 with the machine guns and ejector seat

  3. Re:I know by vtcodger · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This is actually kind of cool

    I agree. I have some doubts about this specific effort. Teslas are, to some extent, big heavy cars because they need a lot of battery space. I'm told that current Tesla batteries are approaching theoretical limits for Lithium-ion energy density. Not that that's an absolute limit on how compact car batteries can be, but it does suggest that wedging batteries into an Aston-Martin DB6 that is a foot shorter than a Tesla Model 3 and unlike the Model 3 not designed around the need for a large battery pack may be a problem. Of course, the engine, transmission, and fuel tank are no longer needed, so maybe it will work out.

    And the weight distribution will likely be quite different. That's got to affect handling?

    I'm not especially a car guy, so maybe I'm overestimating the problems. Or maybe I'm missing some. But anyway, it's interesting, and, I agree, kind of cool.

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  4. Need an XJE by dltaylor · · Score: 3, Interesting

    My '04 XJR is about as perfect a road car as I can find. Physically, I fit, unlike a Tesla Model S, and it is quite roomy; the large "greenhouse" gives me great visibility; it has sufficient power; it handles beautifully. Currently, because I drive long distances on obscure roads, an electric is not useful to me as an "only" car. However, as an alternative for city use, an electric version would be magnificent. Jaguar has a decent history of electrics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaguar_C-X75, as well as a current "Sport Utility" model https://www.jaguarusa.com/all-models/i-pace/index.html. A retrofit kit for a same model XJ would make much more sense to me than anything likely to come out in the foreseeable future.

  5. Re:I know by burhop · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Oh, stop being such a Grinch. This is actually kind of cool.

    I've got an 82 Corvette that I'd love to convert. the cars from about 1975 To 1990 suffered greatly from loss of power due to emission controls. getting up to Tesla speed plus having some new tech to play with would be fun.

  6. Re:I know by shortscruffydave · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I was at a classic car show a few weeks ago, and saw an old MG that had been converted in a similar way. The company who did it said that the conversion actually improved the car's handling - as well as being in the boot (trunk for USA-ians) batteries were also distributed along the car's floor, which lowered the centre of gravity compared to the regular car

  7. Re:I know by FormOfActionBanana · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The thing is, nobody sane takes an antique Aston Martin on a 4 hour trip. You take one out for 30-40 minutes and then have a rest. Or, you are using the car in an actual multi-day race, in which case you would obviously not undergo an electric conversion.
    I expect very few classic car owners would both cruise in the town for fun, and also race with the same car.

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  8. Prestige by fluffernutter · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Anyone who does this isn't really a fan of the car itself, they like the idea of the prestige of being seen driving the car. A fan of the car itself would want it to drive as much as possible like it did the first day out of the factory.

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  9. Re:I know by DigiShaman · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The thing is, nobody sane takes an antique Aston Martin.. and BUTCHERS it eviscerating its heritage and history.

    These aren't collectibles insomuch as "choppers".

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  10. Re:Love this by Lothsahn · · Score: 3, Informative

    I drive a Nissan Leaf with the telematics disabled. It's extremely easy to do on any 2011-2017 Nissan leaf. I'm assuming the 2018 is the same, but they did do a redesign. It took 15 minutes of my time and one screwdriver to disable the TCU, and I'm very much a beginner with cars.

    https://www.mynissanleaf.com/v...

    You still have options, for now.

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  11. What about the transmission? by damn_registrars · · Score: 3, Interesting

    While an Aston Martin is out of my price range regardless, one of the key elements of a sports car is the availability of a manual transmission. I don't see any mention of how the transmission would work after this conversion. By my understanding most all-electric cars on the road today use either single speed transmissions or CVTs; neither are particularly sporting for someone who really wants to have fun driving. I hope they have something figured out for that.

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