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Comcast Rejected by Small Town -- Residents Vote For Municipal Fiber Instead (arstechnica.com)

A small Massachusetts town has rejected an offer from Comcast and instead plans to build a municipal fiber broadband network. From a report: Comcast offered to bring cable Internet to up to 96 percent of households in Charlemont in exchange for the town paying $462,123 plus interest toward infrastructure costs over 15 years. But Charlemont residents rejected the Comcast offer in a vote at a special town meeting Thursday. "The Comcast proposal would have saved the town about $1 million, but it would not be a town-owned broadband network," the Greenfield Recorder reported Friday.

"The defeated measure means that Charlemont will likely go forward with a $1.4 million municipal town network, as was approved by annual town meeting voters in 2015." About 160 residents voted, with 56 percent rejecting the Comcast offer, according to news reports.

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  1. Even if it was free by ddtmm · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Comcast would have been a bad deal.

  2. Comcast will force their way in by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    No one simply rejects comcast.

    1. Re:Comcast will force their way in by Desler · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Expect Comcast to go to the state legislature to thwart this.

  3. Revolution starts with a small town by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Every small town and city should be like this.

  4. Re:Expect litigation by alvinrod · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Personally, I believe that the best approach would be for the city to create and own its own municipal network and then to allow multiple companies to sell services on it to the citizens. That's the surest way to make sure that your citizens get the best possible value. If a private company wants to build its own network to compete against the city, that's their business and I don't see why they should be prevented from doing so, but I suspect that most wouldn't.

    It's ultimately competition that drives down prices and results in better services.

  5. Re:Comcast or government run internet? by greythax · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You need better local government. While my local muni can't seem to keep their website up for crap, they are exceedingly efficient at providing water/sewage/trash pickup, and at a cheaper price than the private county competitors. If you don't like the way your munis are running, go to a city council meeting and get the ball rolling on fixing them. You are your muni's shareholder, use your power.

  6. Re:Do the math by whoever57 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Also note that Comcast proposed to serve only 96% of the households. The municipal broadband will reach 100%.

    Those 4% would have been screwed under the Comcast proposal.

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  7. Re:Comcast or government run internet? by Radical+Moderate · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You think Comcast will send a guy out at midnight to fix your line? That's hilarious.

    Municipal water and sewage systems are in fact quite complicated. Systems don't have to be comprised of racks of components with blinking lights to be complex.

    We are talking about maintaining network infrastructure, wiring, fiber, power plus managing accounts and billing for service, customer equipment, shutting off those who don't pay and setting up new service for customers as they move in.

    I work for a government institution that does all of that. It's not that hard. Yes, you have to hire some competent people. Beats getting bent over by Comcast.

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  8. Re:Comcast may be bad by gmack · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The difference is that pizzerias aren't a natural monopoly the same ways that ISPs tend to be in small towns.

    If you have to chose between a corporate monopoly and a government monopoly, you are better off with the government monopoly since there is less of a motive for them to squeeze their customers for more money than they need to. plus you can vote out the people in charge if they get abusive. When dealing with a corporate monopoly, you have no choice but to keep paying whatever they ask.

  9. Re:Muni ISPs should be based on Distributism by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I see. So socialism is a superior economic system because some non-socialist countries are doing better than other non-socialist countries on things other than economics. Got it.

    No True Socialism.

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  10. Re:Muni ISPs should be based on Distributism by dryeo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Venezuela is an example of corrupt populism (pitting the people against each other), especially the corruption part.
    For this thread, a good example of socialism would be co-ops running the local infrastructure. Can't get much more socialist then a co-op..

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  11. Re:Muni ISPs should be based on Distributism by dryeo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You left out Ireland for per capita GDP. Anyways a better measure is happiness, something that lots of money does not produce, but rather enough to not worry and have some spare. According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... the US ranks 18th with many of the higher scoring countries being ones that Americans call socialist.
    Personally, I'd rather live with slightly less per capita GDP, but not worrying about healthcare, having a longer life expectancy, easier social mobility, some rights in the workplace including being able to take a vacation.

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  12. Re:Muni ISPs should be based on Distributism by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Thus a good chunk of that "median income" is in the hands of very high income people.

    I see that you have absolutely no idea what "median" means.

    Try reading this: Median.