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Windows Server 2019 Officially Supports OpenSSH For the First Time (neowin.net)

Posted by ryuzaki0 on from the about-time dept.

Microsoft said in 2015 that it would build OpenSSH, a set of utilities that allow clients and servers to connect securely, into Windows, while also making contributions to its development. Neowin: Since then, the company has delivered on that promise in recent releases of Windows 10, being introduced as a feature-on-demand in version 1803. However, Windows Server hadn't received the feature until now, at least not in an officially supported way -- Windows Server version 1709 included it as a pre-release feature. But that's finally changed, as Microsoft this week revealed that Windows Server 2019, which was made available (again) in November, includes OpenSSH as a supported feature.

129 comments

  1. Interesting by guruevi · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The question is: what version, does it have Microsoft-specific extension and what shell do you end up getting (Bash would be nice).

    The problem will be when (not if) Microsoft refuses to patch just to point out how 'insecure' Open is.

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    1. Re:Interesting by Desler · · Score: 5, Informative

      It's based on the very latest 7.9 release. If you want to see what they've done then view the git repo:

      https://github.com/PowerShell/...

    2. Re:Interesting by currently_awake · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The next step is removing the underlying OS from windows and loading in linux underneath a Windows command shell (kindof like what Apple did with MacOS and freebsd). That would give them a dominant share in the growing linux market at little cost, and offload most of the maintenance costs onto the open source groups.

    3. Re: Interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because the NT kernel is hot garbage. That's why.

    4. Re: Interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sensible AND evil theyll make up what next?

    5. Re: Interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How is the NT Kernel "hot garbage"? Please explain in detail.

    6. Re: Interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can't even pick a non-doppelganger account name, who would care AT ALL what you think anywhere on any topic?

    7. Re:Interesting by Gabest · · Score: 2

      I have it on a 2012 R2 to create reverse tunnels, the shell you get is the normal cmd.exe.

    8. Re:Interesting by mejustme · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I have it on a 2012 R2 to create reverse tunnels, the shell you get is the normal cmd.exe.

      What happens when you attempt to run a GUI application? E.g., notepad.exe?

    9. Re: Interesting by slazzy · · Score: 3, Funny

      Says the anonymous coward...

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    10. Re: Interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wouldn't want to have to tolerate the attentions of someone with that large a creativity deficit either, frankly.

    11. Re: Interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't lose a point for impersonating someone else, like they did/should. Your social currency token, remember? I'm not riding off someone else's IP. You simply are forced to evaluate the comments individually.
      I find it's mostly less ad hominem inviting, well, except for people who assume that nothing any anonymous person ever says could be useful or interesting or informational. I'll suffer that burden lol.

      I prefer it this way. You don't have to like me, that's ok. You probably won't know if you do or not, either way it doesn't matter. That's the point. Whoosh along now, liking or not.

      It doesn't matter to the anonymous.

    12. Re:Interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I think it's funny to see Microsoft haters struggling to find reasons to criticize everything they're doing, rather than simply acknowledge that they're making good choices.

    13. Re:Interesting by manu0601 · · Score: 1

      The next step is removing the underlying OS from windows and loading in linux underneath a Windows command shell (kindof like what Apple did with MacOS and freebsd)

      Apple also took from NetBSD and OpenBSD: each time they needed something, they chose the most advanced on that bit

    14. Re:Interesting by ourlovecanlastforeve · · Score: 5, Interesting

      You joke but this is actually where Microsoft is going.

      I remember back in 2005-ish there was an ashcan mag published by former Microsoft employees you could subscribe to for ~$50/year that contained internal memos, emails, etc. and one of the big email threads that was kicked around back then is that Microsoft's future game was to get out of selling Windows as a software product and turn their OS platform into a software-as-a-service model where your hardware would only have a RTOS-based microkernel and the OS would be streamed to you on demand much like the Terminal Services model.

      The backend services for that model were meant to run on Linux servers. The end game objective of moving into supporting Linux and contributing code to open source projects is for Microsoft to take over the open source community as a whole by first contributing code, then becoming an asset to the community, then financing development of open source projects. Then when the open source projects can no longer function without Microsoft's funding they would enact a hostile takeover of the open source community by withholding financing unless the community bends to Microsoft's whims.

      It's very much a "if you can't beat them with a better product, infiltrate and wreck their shit" scenario.

    15. Re:Interesting by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 3, Informative

      ONE good deed still doesn't excuse their telemetry / spyware shit.

    16. Re:Interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In 2005, the whole 'cloud compute' craze wasn't in effect, though. What happened between 2005 and today is that Windows is now a tiny portion of Microsoft's income, it's almost all cloud and just office. Windows is not the center of their business. It isn't even the secondary. And guess what.. the cloud web runs on Linux. They're being smart.

    17. Re:Interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are very tone deaf if you somehow believe the hardcore team behind OpenSSH will submit to Microsoft. Delusional that the opensource movement is vulnerable to Microsoft, or perhaps you mean the new villain - Google? Are you aware that we fork? We fork, and will fork again, and cash, big business can be shaken off, and a group of true purest hackers like the OpenBSD group are completely immune to financial, or corporate shakedowns.

    18. Re:Interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      (kindof like what Apple did with MacOS and freebsd)

      Kind of, in a “not really” sort of way, because what they really did was update NEXTSTEP and rename it “Mac OS X.”

    19. Re: Interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Go back to InfoWars.com, paranoid asshole.

    20. Re:Interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      What good does a shell access do in a Windows server, where all the maintenance has to be done using Metro UI? Can a shell access be used to perform the daily re-uninstall of the Candy crush and other crapware MS force-pushed there? If it can, it could be somewhat useful.

    21. Re: Interesting by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 1

      That's why they stole much of the NT kernel from DEC, by hiring David Cutler and his development team. David was one of the core authors of VMS, and the intellectual property theft involved was quite large scale. He and his team brought a great deal of the code with them. The lawsuits of the era were fascinating, and some of them are laid out at https://www.itprotoday.com/com... .

    22. Re:Interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In 2005, the whole 'cloud compute' craze wasn't in effect, though. What happened between 2005 and today is that Windows is now a tiny portion of Microsoft's income, it's almost all cloud and just office. Windows is not the center of their business. It isn't even the secondary. And guess what.. the cloud web runs on Linux. They're being smart.

      Cloud computing literally means "someone elses computer", nothing else.

    23. Re:Interesting by sad_ · · Score: 1

      it may be that that is what they want; the NT kernel with a GNU userland.

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    24. Re:Interesting by godefroi · · Score: 1

      But I think the point is, in this case, it means "Microsoft's computer", and that's where their money is coming from now. They're not so worried about Windows or Linux, because their business looks a lot different now than it did 13 years ago.

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    25. Re:Interesting by guruevi · · Score: 2

      Microsoft's Linux will only run on Windows/Azure and can only be changed with Visual Studio. You can fork it but you're still locked into the Microsoft platform.

      They've already together with VMWare effectively taken over the Linux Foundation; they became members at a few million dollars and suddenly the free seats for key community developers got rescinded. They've already purchased the keynotes at various conferences. Together with IBM (RedHat) pretty much all these conferences now cost $2k+ to attend so the industry is trending towards a closed, commercial interest-only Linux and they couldn't care less what a few neckbeards have to say about it.

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    26. Re:Interesting by ElizabethGreene · · Score: 1

      The powershell command to remove a modern app is remove-appxpackage and it does work from shell access. If you want it to not be installed by default for new users the command is remove-appxprovisionedpackage.

      If you are having to remove it every day, something is wrong and you might consider having a professional look into it. If Candy Crush specifically is appearing on your server operating system then you definitely need some help.

  2. Someday they'll manage to turn it into Unix by Seven+Spirals · · Score: 0

    ... but not today. At least the gave some money to the OpenBSD guys, unlike many other greedy corporations.

    1. Re:Someday they'll manage to turn it into Unix by Seven+Spirals · · Score: 0

      Isn't it funny how Linux wants to be come Windows (systemd = svchost.exe) and Windows wants to become Linux.

    2. Re:Someday they'll manage to turn it into Unix by Tough_Nuts · · Score: 0

      Isn't it funny how Linux wants to be come Windows (systemd = svchost.exe) and Windows wants to become Linux.

      admins want Linux that has nothing to do with the dumpster fire that is system.

    3. Re: Someday they'll manage to turn it into Unix by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1

      No, but it *is* funny how you flaunt your ignorance yet again, showing you have no idea what systemd is and literally no clue how it works, including how it is literally nothing like svchost.exe.

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    4. Re: Someday they'll manage to turn it into Unix by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nice troll account, Lennart.

    5. Re: Someday they'll manage to turn it into Unix by Seven+Spirals · · Score: 2

      I'm an expert with systemd. I literally work with it daily. I fix it for other people like you. Sorry, Lennart, but I'm extremely well informed and I still think it's terrible.

    6. Re: Someday they'll manage to turn it into Unix by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And yet, YOU ARE EVIDENTLY TERRIBLE YOURSELF. https://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=13053288&cid=57799684

    7. Re: Someday they'll manage to turn it into Unix by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In that case it's scvhost.exe that you have no clue what it is or does.

    8. Re: Someday they'll manage to turn it into Unix by Seven+Spirals · · Score: 0

      Isn't it funny that people who are pro-systemd are always ACs when telling their betters how dumb they are? That kinda says it all, right there.

  3. Up-and-coming server OS gets basic server feature by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Nice. Good going, Microsoft.

    Who knows... at this rate, in a few years, Windows Server might even be ready for the enterprise.

  4. Rogue developer warning! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    James Kelly from Microsoft here. We have a rogue developer who's illegally tinkering with the Windows source code to add illegal Linux software to Windows Server. Do NOT use OpenSSH on Windows Server 2019 or else your license will be invalidated and you will be raided by our License Auditing Team.

    1. Re:Rogue developer warning! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      License Audit Team is already inside the SSH server!!!

    2. Re:Rogue developer warning! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I don't know man. I saw a hilarious Dane Cook routine once. I walked into the men's room and Dane Cook was at one of the urinals, taking a piss. So I whipped out my cock and pissed all over the back of his pants.

    3. Re:Rogue developer warning! by Holi · · Score: 1

      That's almost as funny as Carrot Top. Not quite, but close.

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    4. Re:Rogue developer warning! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      he probably liked that

    5. Re:Rogue developer warning! by LostMyAccount · · Score: 1

      I was really surprised the last time I was in Vegas to see Carrot Top on billboards as some kind of Vegas attraction. I mean, I get Cher, even Britney Spears, devolving to Vegas status. But who says "we need a really great recurring talent for our casino, I know, let's get fucking Carrot Top!"

    6. Re:Rogue developer warning! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Err... you do realize that OpenSSH is from OpenBSD?

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  6. Client or server? by mejustme · · Score: 1

    So is this just the SSH client? (Which is still a step in the right direction -- sorry, Putty!)

    Or are we talking as a server, to ssh into a Windows computer?

    And if we're talking server, can we ssh -X and run an actual GUI application?

    1. Re:Client or server? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hopefully both.... RDP over SSH would be kinda nice.

    2. Re:Client or server? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's both client and server.

      It's Windows that you'll be talking to. So no X forwarding.

    3. Re:Client or server? by mejustme · · Score: 1

      It's Windows that you'll be talking to. So no X forwarding.

      I understand. What I meant by -X was "will we be able to run Windows apps remotely?" Or does SSH only give us command-line access?

    4. Re: Client or server? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You seriously think that the Windows graphics system have a text based network protocol?

    5. Re: Client or server? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uh.. ever heard of a .bmp?

    6. Re:Client or server? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why? Supported versions of RDP are already compressed and encrypted. Routing RDP over SSH wouldn't benefit link speed or confidentiality.

    7. Re: Client or server? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That is essentially what .wmf and .emf were - GDI wrapped up in serialization. Maybe one day Microsoft will encompass Postscript or Scalable Vector Graphics to compose their UI.

    8. Re:Client or server? by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 1

      You could use SSH to port-forward an RDP conneciton to the localhost that is otherwise blocked by the firewall. One might also access a CygWin hosted X session. But otherwise, I see no obvious graphical access over the SSH connection.

  7. From microsoft's page by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Secure Scripting Host??

    It's supposed to be Secure SHell

    1. Re:From microsoft's page by novakyu · · Score: 1

      "Shell" has a different meaning in Windows.

  8. Cool. Now do SFTP and integrate it into... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...file explorer.

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  10. Least necessary definition ever by damn_registrars · · Score: 2, Informative

    Slashdot users really, really, don't need to be told what OpenSSH does. We've all used it, and most slashdot users are probably using it while they are reading slashdot (even if not to read slashdot). There was no need to tell us what it is in the summary.

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    1. Re: Least necessary definition ever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Well considering on Microsoft's own page they call it Secure Scripting Host, maybe somebody should tell them what it really means

    2. Re: Least necessary definition ever by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 2

      That was true at one time but you haven't been paying attention if you haven't noticed how many clueless dolts have flocked to this sight in the last several years.

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    3. Re: Least necessary definition ever by damn_registrars · · Score: 1

      That was true at one time but you haven't been paying attention if you haven't noticed how many clueless dolts have flocked to this sight in the last several years.

      Total user volume is way, way, way down compared to years past. I doubt there are even 2000 users left here who post regularly. Most of the ID numbers that are much above 1M are likely spambots that are set up by people who don't realize the traffic here isn't enough to make it worth their while to partake in any spamming here. This place makes google plus look like a happening place to be.

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    4. Re:Least necessary definition ever by albeit+unknown · · Score: 1

      Only a portion of nerds are interested in IT Operations.

    5. Re:Least necessary definition ever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's like saying only a portion of scientists are interested in experimentation.

    6. Re:Least necessary definition ever by BringsApples · · Score: 1

      Close, but not exactly correct. See, this IS slashdot, and we DON'T need to be told about SSH, but we also don't need to be told that we don't need to be told. So, there's that.

      ;^)

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    7. Re:Least necessary definition ever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If only you were correct. See above for details.

    8. Re:Least necessary definition ever by damn_registrars · · Score: 1

      Only a portion of nerds are interested in IT Operations.

      ssh is not just a tool for "IT Operations". There is zero reason for anyone who has any interest in managing a server (which is the focus of the article) - running any OS from the past decade - to not be familiar with ssh. This is above even the vi / emacs feuds, everyone uses ssh.

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  13. I'm sure it won't collect any information... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    because Microsoft can always be trusted in these issues...

    1. Re:I'm sure it won't collect any information... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What guarantees can you give me that the binaries in Windows are unmodified? It's trivial to post source-code online and say "look it's safe", and then distribute a different binary.

    2. Re:I'm sure it won't collect any information... by Gabest · · Score: 2

      Yea, never trust US companies!

    3. Re:I'm sure it won't collect any information... by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 0

      It's all open source and on github. So go audit the code if you think they're doing something nefarious.

      I did that, and I spotted the new source subtree where they've linked in ncurses and used it to display "live tiles" on the client terminal. By default, the first tile links to an ascii-art version of Candy Crush.

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  16. It is interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That open source software is being included in software which costs money.

    I'd say FOSS has been invaded, conquered, and getting raped daily.

  17. oh cool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    $ ssh peter@winpc.local
    Password:
    C:\Users\peter>ls
    'ls' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
    operable program or batch file.

    pretty awesome

    1. Re:oh cool by mejustme · · Score: 1

      $ ssh peter@winpc.local
      Password:

      Peter, you forgot to provide us with the IP and password so we can test as well.

    2. Re:oh cool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      IP? He's using Netbios.

    3. Re:oh cool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      192.168.1.100
      hunter2

  18. 20+ year late? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, 23-ish plus years late to the party is still welcome, I guess. That's how long I've been using SSH in some form or t'other. Yet another huge company (actually the same company) appropriating free technology so that they can make a buck. It was the same with their network stack in Windows ME/2000 (BSD) and the most popular OS in their cloud (Linux). Don't count on them giving back too much though. Code, yeah, for a while. Money, hardly ever.

    1. Re:20+ year late? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Microsoft goes Gold for 2018!

      The OpenBSD Foundation is happy to announce that Microsoft has increased its support level from Silver to Gold for 2018.

      This is the fourth consecutive year that Microsoft has made a contribution to the OpenBSD Foundation and we are grateful for their continuing support.

    2. Re:20+ year late? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yet another huge company (actually the same company) appropriating free technology so that they can make a buck.

      You mean like how Linux copied UNIX, a proprietary, closed source OS? lols..

  19. Choice of Shells Available by nuckfuts · · Score: 1

    The default shell is cmd.exe, but there is built-in support for Powershell and Bash.

    Although I suppose one could just launch whatever other shell they want from the cmd prompt.

  20. Advantage over RDP? by nuckfuts · · Score: 3, Interesting

    As a Unix / OpenBSD fan, I think this is kinda cool, but unless one needs to login to Windows from a Unix box, what would be the advantage of this over RDP? With RDP I can access graphical features, easily map local resources such as drives and printers, connect through a TS gateway, etc.

    1. Re:Advantage over RDP? by markdavis · · Score: 1, Insightful

      SSH is universal
      It is simple
      It is fast
      It can run remote commands
      It can run through pipes
      It can be scripted
      It can run well over low bandwidth
      You can run other protocols through it
      You can create a VPN using it
      RPD is not native on *ix

      It has lots of uses beyond what RDP doesn't do. It is a great tool for lower-level stuff.

    2. Re:Advantage over RDP? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As a Unix / OpenBSD fan, I think this is kinda cool, but unless one needs to login to Windows from a Unix box, what would be the advantage of this over RDP? With RDP I can access graphical features, easily map local resources such as drives and printers, connect through a TS gateway, etc.

      Bandwidth.

      Turn in your Unix/OpenBSD fan card.

      So we can burn it. In front of you.

    3. Re: Advantage over RDP? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've been running rdp over ssh sessions for years, I've been using ssh on windows for years as well, welcome to the party MS. If you want to know how to do rdp using ssh look at the port forwarding docs.

    4. Re:Advantage over RDP? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      One of the big goals for serious admin work should be migrating to more "core" infrastructure that's managed from workstations, thus removing the need for GUI support. But yeah, if you're still insistent on using GUI features, then OpenSSH is meaningless to you. If, however, there comes a time where you find value in the command line (be it cmd, ps, bash, etc), you might find OpenSSH support to be a big deal.

    5. Re:Advantage over RDP? by MobyDisk · · Score: 2

      1) Speed & latency, especially over broadband. Even the connection time for RDP is often slow.
      2) Security maybe? Everybody knows the security capabilities of OpenSSH. RDP is closed source so who knows?

    6. Re:Advantage over RDP? by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 2

      It's easily tuned to allow authorized_keys to limit access on a key by key basis to specific hostnames, IP addresses, and forced commands by allowing users to manipulate authorized_keys files.

    7. Re:Advantage over RDP? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

      Lol.

      SSH isn't universal. It only runs on some *ix. Many in very limited fashions.
      SSH isn't fast. At all. RDP is *much* faster.
      It can run well over low bandwidth. (So can RDP -- I was using it with 9600 baud modems).
      You can run other protocols through it. So can RDP. You can even run SSH over RDP if you really wanted to.
      You can create a VPN using it. You can forward TCP ports through RDP as well if you really wanted to.
      RDP is native on windows.
      You can present local devices (USB, Graphics Cards, Drives, etc etc ) to programs running remotely.
      You can share your clipboard between local and remote systems effortlessly.

    8. Re:Advantage over RDP? by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      SSH is not native on *ix. Native implies that it is a function of the underlying system. It is a separate program that just so happens to be installed on nearly every *IX platform by default. And on that vane there's an RDP client and server for every *IX out there.

    9. Re: Advantage over RDP? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If by some, you mean it runs on every single Linux and Unix distro.

      FTFY

  21. That not-very-funny guy Carrot Top. by Seven+Spirals · · Score: 1

    iknowrite? He's been doing it for decades, too. I go to Vegas almost every year for some convention or other and he's *always* on all kinds of billboards and doing shows. I even got dragged to one of them. Damn he sucks. It's like listening to my 12 year old cousins tell knock-knock jokes for two hours. However, you gotta give him credit for putting together a long career as a comic with no much to work with!

    1. Re:That not-very-funny guy Carrot Top. by LostMyAccount · · Score: 1

      Vegas is like that. The first time I went to Vegas, I saw billboards all over for this one guy and it was like "who the fuck is this guy? I have never heard of him." They seem to latch on to certain people and they end up like permanent fixtures.

  22. Re:creimer is fat and a gay! Everybody say 'Yay!' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    or you're just him trying to push your garbage fortnite videos.

  23. Netcraft confirms ... by epine · · Score: 2

    Netcraft has Slashdot ranked around 50,500th, a bit ahead of jp.match.com and a bit behind linkedin.fr.

    My overactive imagination presumes that linkedin.jp and fr.match.com would both have enormously larger traffic shares (but what do I know about the relative power dynamics of wives and mistresses, here and abroad?)

    Even so, given that there are now on the order of 100 million registered web sites, the Slashdot effect remains as potent as ever.

    The mighty ships tore across the empty wastes of space and finally dived screaming on to the first planet they came across — which happened to be the Earth — where due to a terrible miscalculation of scale the entire battle fleet was accidentally swallowed by a small dog.

            — Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

    As intergalactic dog's breakfasts go, though, 50000th is not exactly chump change.

    Even in our heyday, we always had an implicit alignment with The Mouse That Roared (and a blood feud with the Mickey Mouse Copyright Term Extension Act, which goes to show, boys and girls, that while can beat juggernaut America from the 1950s, but you can't beat multinational Disney, nighty-night sweet dreams).

    1. Re:Netcraft confirms ... by epine · · Score: 1

      You know, Douglas Adams was infamous for fiddling with his language for 50 drafts, but it just dawned on me that instance of "accidentally" really should have been "inadvertently".

      It wasn't his finest hour, nor his best quote, either, but even his seconds are not bad.

    2. Re:Netcraft confirms ... by damn_registrars · · Score: 1

      Netcraft has Slashdot ranked around 50,500th, a bit ahead of jp.match.com and a bit behind linkedin.fr.

      That really isn't much to be proud of compared to where slashdot used to be. This community used to be much more active. If you want to compare to linkedin.fr, it is important to note that the population of France is ~67M. At most maybe 25% of the population might have an interest in LinkedIn (probably much less), which would give you a maximum user base of ~17M. Except that a lot of them are going to use linkedin from other countries if they are looking to further their careers, which would probably at least cut that number in half. And if the use of LinkedIn in the US is any indication of how industrialized countries use it (or do not), you should probably cut that number down even further. I'd be surprised if there were 1M routine readers of linkedin.fr and 100,000 regular contributors.

      the Slashdot effect remains as potent as ever.

      As I recall the slashdot effect used to be measured in the ability of traffic coming just from slashdot to take down another site. I can't recall the last time that happened. Sure, a lot of people are using more complicated hosting now that is more resistant to high traffic loads, but if this site is supposed to highlight the lesser-known cutting-edge tech developments, there should be some less robust sites that would be showcasing some of that material. Yet to the best of my knowledge slashdot has taken down approximately zero sites in the past decade or so.

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  24. Same thing that happened in the old Win9x compat.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    command line: the program can't find the graphics subsystem and terminates. I believe command.com did this on some or all Windows systems, while cmd.exe executed them as normal windows apps, from NT4(3.51?) on.

    Someone who is more of a Windows Guru may be able to correct me on this. It's been almost 20 years and I haven't seriously run windows since XP support and applications expired.

  25. Just what we need... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    More back doors for the NSA

  26. he's a (((comedian))) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    perks of being one of the (((chosen))), goy

    1. Re:he's a (((comedian))) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      uh dude that was kinda racist... you might want to dial it back

  27. wow, only 3 years by Locutus · · Score: 1

    Can you imagine how long it would have taken them to provide such a complex piece of software had the openSSH source code software not been available for free and widely published?

    Reminds me of when they broke the TCP/IP stack AOL provided for Windows and told a judge it was a mistake and they'd have it fixed in 6 months.

    Then the time they said they would release a JBDC driver for MS SQL Server with an 18 month release schedule.

    But hey, that many monkeys hitting buttons on keyboards take time to get it right. And we know Microsoft always gets it right the first time. Or maybe the second time. Or was it the third time?

    LoB

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    "Anyone who stands out in the middle of a road looks like roadkill to me." --Linus
  28. OpenSSH client is not OpenSSH server by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 1

    Let's be aware that the server is not the same as the client. There are a number of working clients available, but the server relies on technologies such as forking off distinct copies of the server daemon, especially so that one failed daemon does not disable the service altogether. I'm curious how Microsoft is configuring this to prevent a distributed denial of service attack, and what settings they are using for single-sign-on kerberized connecitons.

    1. Re:OpenSSH client is not OpenSSH server by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here's the port: https://github.com/PowerShell/openssh-portable

      It's the openssh-portable project with a few extra that you can look through. But undoubtedly it runs on the Windows Service Framework and uses built in providers for AD over kerberos.

  29. Re: creimer is fat and a gay! Everybody say 'Yay!' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Holy shit, I didn't know who he was either. He is indeed fat and gay and pushing fortnite videos. There's some other crap in there but I can't understand what he's saying.

  30. I'll stick with Cygwin thanks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I've been using OpenSSH on Cygwin for 16 years. Still works great.

    1. Re:I'll stick with Cygwin thanks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly this.
      We administrate a truck load of Win boxes, after initial install they get loaded with Cygwin and OpenSSH gets set up and Ansible deals with loading Win software on it. It's gonna take a while before I will use the build-in installed-as-a-role crap MS spews out.

  31. Re:creimer is fat and a gay! Everybody say 'Yay!' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There you are spamming amazon and youtube affiliate links with yet another fake account, you revenue stream hogging disgusting fat sexist tube of lard, Christopher Dale Reimer!

    You can be sure I will be watching this fake account too. I know this is you because you told me you were working on your freepass 11 file server and you are so dumb that you can't even masquerade yourself properly.

    Now, I told you I was out of meds last week and you didn't even care to contact me you lazy fucker.

    How many times do I have to express the emergency of the situation??????

    The python click script you wrote for my pheromone revenue stream web site suddenly stopped to work!!!!!!

    You fucking incompetent python script writer!!!

    When it works, I get 4000+ clicks a day on my pheromone revenue stream web site but only 5 or 6 without it!!!!

    Now, it seems like you dont care and that you have abandoned me you heartless fucking pig!

    Bonus:
    Here is a story that creimer told me when convincing me what a hard life he had:

    The tree was him and the tree knot was his butt hole!

    So, his uncle packed his fat ass with lard and with his cock! Not that it makes much of a difference but anyway, there it is!

    Signed:
    Ethell, The girl that used to love you and now hates you, burn in hell where you belong you sexist pig!

  32. OpenSSH will become SharedSSH... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    M$ never said Open Source is Cancer, and they never have a history of capsizing some free projects.

    Everyone should make M$ own their code, migrate to M$ Shared Source and pay them fees.

    Do you not have faith to sacrifice your Open Source child?

  33. Re:creimer is fat and a gay! Everybody say 'Yay!' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    C.D. Reimer is a renowned Slashdot collaborator, as he puts it himself; "Because of the quality of my posts and my article submissions, I'm a highly rated commentator and moderator."

    But does anybody ever wondered what "C.D." stands for? Well, it stands for Creimy Dumpty of course!

    Creimy Dumpty sat on the wall,
    Creimy Dumpty had a great fall.
    All the king's horses
    And all the king's men
    Couldn't put Creimy Dumpty
    Together again.

    Creimy's siblings video and theme song, very realistic, especially the pants, just like Creimy's:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    With "Vice President Pence Vowing US Astronauts Will Return To the Moon", we are sure they will need miracle workers up there, here is what it would look like. Note that Creimy takes care of bringing a lot of food to the moon as depicted below:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    Creimy's real pictures:
    Before the sex change:
    https://ibb.co/cc7Ddw
    After the sex change:
    https://ibb.co/gVad65

    Creimy's "enterprise-level" chair, he talks about it all the time on slashdot:
    http://www.keynamics.com/image...

    Creimy's head, while his supervisor was talking to him, not with him, since it is impossible to do with Creimy:
    http://ibb.co/mRVSaG

    Creimy acting in educational resource document, he actually confirmed himself on Slashdot that he was handled by Special Education for the Santa Clara County Office of Education! He is really a king Dumpty!:
    http://www.sccoe.org/depts/stu...

  34. Version 1803 by nagora · · Score: 1

    Named after the year everyone else got this basic functionality from their server OS.

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  35. Have they fixed the shoddy terminal emulation yet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was pretty excited to try this feature on Windows 10 but the terminal emulation made it completely unusable - the terminal would be a garbled mess within minutes of using it just to run normal commands. So long as the terminal emulation is finally fixed this might be a pretty great feature.

  36. Give me liberty, or give me death. by Monster_user · · Score: 1

    Open Source is not about free software, or professional quality. It is about liberty, freedom, independence. It is about not being beholden to corporate interests. Money is nice. Working at a job you love is nice. But these things need not be so tightly intertwined. And as Linux has been for so many, a hobby, big money investments are not required. Big Business can buy their systemd or Windows Server boxes, and be under the thumb of Microsoft. Open Source will fight for its freedom.

    "Give me liberty, or give me death." - Patrick Henry, 11/23/1775.

  37. Can't trust msoft overall, can't with this either by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If they would stop forcibly shoving things up consumers asses then they might, just might become trustworthy again.

  38. Azure by clenhart · · Score: 1

    This is really about Azure. This is another example where MS isn't thinking about on-prem.

  39. Re:creimer is fat and a gay! Everybody say 'Yay!' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0



    Goddamn that is a BIG FAT FUCK!!!!

  40. Let's hope it works out of the box this time by kriston · · Score: 1

    Let's hope it works out of the box this time instead of unnecessarily requiring lots of tweaking and manual configuration.

    It would be nice if it supported more ciphers, too.

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    Kriston

  41. Too late by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It would have been nice if Microsoft made their stuff manageable 20 years ago. By now I don't care. Sure, people who manage Microsoft systems may use it now, and the new Linux subsystem, but I've spent all my career making things that work and I'll never go back to Microsoft.