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Boeing 737 Passenger Jet Damaged in Possible Midair Drone Hit (bloomberg.com)

Grupo Aeromexico SAB is investigating whether a drone slammed into a Boeing Co. 737 jetliner as the aircraft approached its destination in Tijuana, Mexico, on the U.S. border. From a report: Images on local media showed considerable damage to the nose of the 737-800, which was operating Wednesday as Flight 773 from Guadalajara. In a cabin recording, crew members can be heard saying they heard a "pretty loud bang" and asking the control tower to check if the nose was damaged. The collision happened shortly before landing. "The exact cause is still being investigated," Aeromexico said in a statement. "The aircraft landed normally and the passengers' safety was never compromised."

The potential drone strike stoked fears that the rising use of uncrewed aircraft will endanger planes filled with passengers. While most nations prohibit drones from flying in pathways reserved for airliners, the millions of small consumer devices that have been purchased around the world can't be tracked on radar, making it difficult for authorities to enforce the rules. In addition, many users don't know the rules or don't follow them.

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  1. Maybe noise sensors around airport parameters by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Interesting

    One solution might be to put in noise sensors around airports, drone flight noise is fairly distinctive and loud (especially for anything heavy enough to cause any real damage). Once you know a drone is there, you can use a number fo drone counter-measures to remove it.

    I also figure at this point any commercial drone has enough parts in it that can be traced back to the owner, that any drone hit will lead to them finding you and presumably a lot of jail time. We should publicize that part more.

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    1. Re:Maybe noise sensors around airport parameters by 110010001000 · · Score: 4, Funny

      That's a good idea. Put a noise sensor around airports.

  2. Re:Solution by froggyjojodaddy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Or.... and I'm just throwing this out there...

    You prohibit drones flying in air corridors (is that what they're called?) and you strictly enforce it with hefty fines or jail time. What's the difference between someone catapulting a rock into a 737 vs. a drone?

  3. Re:Solution by TWX · · Score: 4, Informative

    5kg isn't really a problem.

    Drones capable of doing work weigh considerably more than 5kg. You're looking at a mass more like 50kg, possibly quite a bit more:

    Drone Weight Article

    Realistically you're not going to armor the front of a jetliner to withstand a strike against something as heavy as a person at eighty meters per second.

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  4. Re:Solution by apoc.famine · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The number of youtube views.

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  5. Re:Must be a drone by froggyjojodaddy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It could have been a bird, but the lack of blood and guts on an otherwise pristine white paint job reduces it's likelihood quite a lot.

  6. Re:Must be a drone by 110010001000 · · Score: 4, Funny

    It also could have been a plane, or Superman.

  7. ADS-B transponders for drones by DanDD · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The FAA actually has a pretty decent infrastructure and plan for this, it's called ADS-B. By the end of 2019 all manned aircraft that fly in US airspace are to have these transponders.

    If drones had these then anyone would be able to get the registration data directly from nearby drones, so you could see who the peeping toms flying around your neighborhood are, in real-time, on a map.

    It's just a matter of time before any drone capable of interacting with the national airspace system will be required to have such a transponder. Along with that expect inspection and compliance requirements - just like for manned aircraft. You want to take to the sky outside of class G airspace - then prove your craft is compliant. Manned aircraft are inspected at least once per year, commercial craft more often, based on hourly inspection requirements. Hobbyist drone operators should probably also be trained, tested, and required to show competency at least, oh, once every two years, to prove you even know what class G airspace is, and maybe a certificate of training of some kind.

    Take your drone to class G airspace and stay there and below 400 feet - do whatever you want. With a functioning transponder. Enjoy the sky, but please realize you aren't alone up there.

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    1. Re:ADS-B transponders for drones by DanDD · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Manned aircraft have to take off and land on runways.

      Wrong. I have 8.50x6 tires on my plane. I land in fields, roads, and 'outback' places all over Utah, Idaho and Arizona. In Colorado I keep my off-airport landings to private fields, few of which are labeled as a runway. Kansas is littered with wonderful little grass and dirt strips, as is Oklahoma and Texas.

      Plus, you could just get one shipped from another country that does not have ADS-B.

      One could also track any such drone with a J-STARS, Rivet Joint, and/or AWACS, then dispatch the operator with a SOPGM. Or just have the FBI review the persistent aerial surveillance, watch where the operators walk and and drive over the course of a 48 hour period, then just knock on their door and arrest them.

      Believe me, if you fly in US Airspace and annoy someone enough, there's nowhere you can hide. 9/11 made sure of that.

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  8. Or a goose by sjames · · Score: 4, Informative

    The last drone panic with startling pictures of the damage turned out to be a goose. Of course, "oops, it was a goose" didn't make the big headlines. That was strictly back page news.

    Of course, our only source is Bloomberg, so it might have been a secret Chinese spy goose.