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Could You Live Without a Smartphone For a Year? (techtimes.com)

shanen writes about Vitaminwater's latest "publicity stunt," where they will pay $100,000 to one select contestant who can live without their smartphone for a year: All you have to do is come up with the most amusing entry [about how you will spend 365 days without the device] and have sufficient willpower to give up your smartphone for a year. They obviously have to pick a power user to make it interesting, but that's not the reason I'm disqualified. I would just read more books, which is boring from their perspective. So maybe you want to share your idea here? If it's really good, you don't have to worry about someone stealing it. After all, you'd have the evidence that it was your idea first, but you might be able to refine your entry while amusing the mob. The company will reportedly give you a 1996 cellphone to use in times of emergencies. Also, they will reward you with $10,000 if you are able to get through 6 months. According to Tech Times, contestants can use computers or desktops, "but not smartphones or tablets, even those owned by other people, or anything which the candidate can scroll or swipe on." Always-listening smart speakers, like the Amazon Echo and Google Home, are permitted.

To make sure the candidate doesn't cheat, Vitaminwater will subject them to a lie-detector test at the end of the year.

179 comments

  1. Maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've only been doing that since, well, the E52 died five years ago and I went back to the 6310.

    1. Re: Maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would never choose such a stupid experiment

    2. Re: Maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But could you live without a single CUP oF COFFEE for a year? That would be atypical

    3. Re: Maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No. That is not life, just torture. Coffee is life.

    4. Re: Maybe by rednip · · Score: 1

      Call me crazy, but for $100,000, I'd drink tea for a year. As for the smartphone ban, a cellular laptop and a flip phone would work just as well overall. I would miss a couple of iPhone apps, but a chromebook can run android apps, so that might work.

      --
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    5. Re: Maybe by arth1 · · Score: 1

      Call me crazy, but for $100,000, I'd drink tea for a year.

      Hi, crazy. The question is would you drink only Vitaminwater for a year?
      I think that would me much harder, and quite possibly less healthy too.

    6. Re: Maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      yes I don't drink the stuff.

    7. Re:Maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pony up the 100k, been there done that.

    8. Re: Maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you Mormon?

    9. Re: Maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've been smartphone free since their inception in 1992 (wiki).

      Never seen the attraction of them, and don't want the radiation.

      I plug in the battery and turn on my slide phone a couple of times a year to make a call. Then out pops the battery.

      Cue the "Luddite" remarks.

    10. Re: Maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Luddite

    11. Re: Maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yes, I would just drink covfefe instead

    12. Re: Maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do I get $5,680,000.00 for having lived 56.8 years without a smartphone?

  2. No way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    A human can only go 7 days without water, 30 days without food, and 90 days without a smart phone. This is common knowledge.

    1. Re:No way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      general rule is 3 minutes without air, 3 days without water, and 3 weeks without food. from the SAS handbook anyway. 4 days max without water though (some survivors from the USS Indianapolis lived that long before rescue, most in the water died from exposure and dehydration)

    2. Re: No way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And a human can go forever without parasites

    3. Re: No way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some people probably find this tortuous and a crummy way to live.

    4. Re: No way by Cmdln+Daco · · Score: 1

      Nope. Without symbiotic parasites we'd not survive long. That's part of the complicated unsolved problem of living in space.

    5. Re:No way by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      What is the classification of a smart phone?
      If I add a G4 Wireless to my laptop I will get 99% of my smartphone functionality with 100% of my laptop functionality. Now granted My laptop doesn't have super long battery mostly do to it being over powered. But for 100k I would gladly get a an ultrabook with longer battery life.
      I am half expecting Apple to drop the ability to make phone calls on the iPhone XI, as who uses their phone to call people anymore?

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    6. Re:No way by arth1 · · Score: 1

      What is the classification of a smart phone?

      It's a science fiction device that acts with at least rudimentary intelligence as it facilitates your verbal communication.

      A smartphone, on the other hand, is a device for extracting the maximum amount of money from people looking at pictures of each others' cats and dinners, and broadcasting ill-written but thankfully short text messages.

    7. Re: No way by Geoffrey.landis · · Score: 1

      By "symbiotic parasites," I think you mean mutualist symbionts. Commensal and mutualist symbionts are not parasites. The definition of a parasite is that it provides no benefit to the host.

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    8. Re: No way by sound+vision · · Score: 1

      They actually dropped the ability to make calls way back with the iPhone 4. A truly brave and forward-looking move from Apple. They had to add it back due to complaints from legacy users who didn't even know how to hold the thing. That cost real Apple fans THOUSANDS of dollars as they had to wait another couple years for that extra 0.7mm of thickness to be shaved off.

    9. Re: No way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't forget the 3 hours without shelter in extreme weather.

    10. Re:No way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wrong! I have already gone without a "smart" phone since they were invented! I don't want one! Phones are for making and receiving calls. I don't like texting. I have a plain old flip phone that is about 3 years old and doing fine. I really don't see why so many people are attracted to "smart" phones...but then I don't do Fakebook, TWITter, Snapchat, WhatsApp, or any other data mining crap! All of these data mining ...ur...social media sites are the biggest waste of time ever invented! Besides, Android and IOS both spy on "smart" phone users and allow phone apps to do so!

    11. Re: No way by Cmdln+Daco · · Score: 1

      We can quibble about roles. The bugs have mixed value.

    12. Re: No way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You forgot what symbiotes were and got caught. We get it, you are dumb and a prevaricator.

    13. Re: No way by Geoffrey.landis · · Score: 1

      Huh.

      Odd that so many free online dictionaries are so misleading, but you get what you pay for.

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  3. Easy-peasy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    That's easy-peasy for me as I don't own a smart phone.
    And I'm not a senior citizen to boot!

    CAP === 'objector'

    1. Re: Easy-peasy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Same here!

      Sent from my iPhone.

    2. Re: Easy-peasy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Definitely, an iPhone is not a smart phone (to buy).

      Hey, I'm required by my cynic card to not let openings like that pass.

      CAP === 'replaced'

      (sent from my non-android device)

    3. Re:Easy-peasy by ortholattice · · Score: 2

      The qualifications require that you own a smartphone, so you're disqualified.

      My problem is that I don't have or want a Twitter or Instagram account, so I can't enter.

      On a side note, there seem to be a lot of 4 and 5 digit UIDs here bragging that they don't have smartphones...

    4. Re:Easy-peasy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I haven't had a cell phone for 15 years and I don't miss it.

      When I tell people I don't have one, they usually tell me I am lucky.

    5. Re:Easy-peasy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I *am* a senior ccitizen but fairly electronics-aware (BSEE, MS CompSci, Ham Am Ex). I had a smart phone because I had to use it for work-related apps and to develop mobile apps. When I retired, I traded it in for an old-school clamshell.

      In the following year I:
      a) Learned MIG and TIG welding at our local makerspace.
      b) Began classical guitar and lute lessons (to go with voice and piano).
      c) Began writing an app to interoperate Wayne Cripps's Tab lute notation system with lilypond.

      However...I don't do facebook or twiitter or dating services or other social media. [I understood the business model (we grab your personal data and sell to the highest bidder), and opted out.]

    6. Re: Easy-peasy by sound+vision · · Score: 2

      When I tell people that, they usually say something along the lines of "We can't hire you" or "You can't have an account here."

    7. Re: Easy-peasy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agreed, micro-managing assholes won't employ you. It's awesome.

    8. Re: Easy-peasy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same here!

      Sent from my iPhone.

      Same here!

      Sent from my iBrain.

    9. Re:Easy-peasy by necronom426 · · Score: 1

      Yes, I've never had one, too. I had a mobile phone forced on me several years ago (no internet, pay as you go, almost pointless camera, tiny screen - about 1 inch), but I only use it for incoming calls. I get maybe 1 a month. I have a phone at home and work, and the same with the Internet. If I'm not at either of those it means I'm doing something.

    10. Re:Easy-peasy by fred911 · · Score: 1

      Sorry but I believe your time would have been more effectively used the following year as such:

      a) researched improved property on a beach outside
              of the US.
      b) assured sufficient beer supply and resources to
              maintain at proper drinking temperature.
      c) threw a hook in the ocean and worried about
              making sure you had sufficient hydration (see
              above)

      If you get bored, audition young native girls.

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    11. Re:Easy-peasy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's easy-peasy for me as I don't own a smart phone.
      And I'm not a senior citizen to boot!

      I have an iPhone work provides, mostly I use it to check email from time to time, do two factor authentication to VPNs, and call into conference calls. It spends most of its time in a zipped pouch in my backpack, or sitting on my desk at work.

      My personal phone is an ancient HTC Desire. It's a smartphone only in that it runs an ancient version of Android. It has no data plan, doesn't ever connect to wifi, and is 99% used for texting (I do have finger swiping to type which is the feature I like most about the phone). I don't use its camera, I don't connect it to a computer, I don't browse the web with it, I don't play music on it, I don't use apps on it. It also has a replaceable battery and a 4" screen.

      LOL, gimme my $10K.

      Often times my wife and I can be the only person in a room without a phone in our hands. It's sad to look around in a restaurant and see literally everybody at every table staring at their phone half the time.

    12. Re:Easy-peasy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So... buy a smartphone for a few hundred bucks, then earn $100,000 for not using it. PROFIT! :)

  4. Smartphone yes, Cell no. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I cut my landline years ago.

  5. I Could, My Employer Not So Much by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I could certainly go a year without it. In fact, I've never let go of my original MOTO RAZR for just this reason. I'd love a way to go back to just it. But, my employer has become addicted to Lync mobile, always-on email, the ability to randomly insert conference call meeting invites into my calendar, etc. Essentially, my employer sees "mobility" and smartphones as an excuse to have employees be "always on."

    And before people say "just turn your phone off" to "deliver a message" to my employer. That has actually been tried before. Those people missed enough important emails and/or meetings that it showed up on their performance review and they were asked to go collect paychecks from a different employer.

    1. Re: I Could, My Employer Not So Much by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You should try to collect your paychecks from another employer as soon as possible. Sounds like your boss has control issues.

    2. Re: I Could, My Employer Not So Much by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am the same AC that posted the original above. Good luck with that. I work for a silicon valley Fortune 500 company. It's not my "boss" that has control issues when it's corporate policy from the CEO and CTO and is the the de facto of life working for a tech company in silicon valley.

    3. Re: I Could, My Employer Not So Much by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh man, wait until you hear what normal people with. That song from the 80s has now been updated to "Everybody's working ON the weekend..." For most people, getting paid not only means you have to do "this", but you have to do it "here", it needs to be done "now" as I watch you, and no you can't leave. Sunup to sundown, and then some. The other jobs available require relying on food stamps and never seeing a doctor.

  6. I don't have one now... easy peasy by ka9dgx · · Score: 1

    I don't have a smartphone now.... I've got a candy bar phone with no camera, and no internet. I text about once per week, and make about 5 calls per day, mostly related to coordinating with a friend I give rides home to. I get that people find those things useful, the only really compelling need for me is I wish I had google maps at times... but yes, you can live without it.

    1. Re:I don't have one now... easy peasy by Misagon · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I don't have a cell phone. Well, I have one (a gift) in a drawer, but no subscription.
      At jobs I have been issued smartphones, which I have kept laying unused in a corner after the necessary updates.

      I use a wrist watch, a couple of tablets (WiFi), DSLR and proper computers with large screens and good keyboards.
      Those serve my use cases better, and I won't get run over by a train or trip into the water ...
      I have a good sense of direction (which gets practiced by not relying on GPS).

      --
      "We mustn't be caught by surprise by our own advancing technology" -- Aldous Huxley
    2. Re:I don't have one now... easy peasy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can't do without Google Maps.

    3. Re:I don't have one now... easy peasy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      LG flip-phone here. Never text. Rarely even turn it on (road emergencies and the like). Never feel like I am missing anything.

    4. Re:I don't have one now... easy peasy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are other maps than google's. Use a dedicated gps navigation device, if you want to collect that prize money. Or a PC, if it isn't too big for your use case.

    5. Re: I don't have one now... easy peasy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      could you just use a tablet for google maps? If not, what about a netbook? Full sized laptop? Full sized desktop?

    6. Re:I don't have one now... easy peasy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Or, like, get a paper map. Jeeez.

    7. Re: I don't have one now... easy peasy by Cmdln+Daco · · Score: 1

      I used to use Microsoft's "Streets and Trips" software which came self contained on a few CD-ROMs that I installed on my pc. When I wanted to go somewhere I would laser print a few maps. No internet connection even needed on the pc.

    8. Re:I don't have one now... easy peasy by epine · · Score: 1

      Personally, I'd give up my smartphone before I'd give up my third 23" desktop monitor (two in portrait mode).

      I use SMS to organize the use of shared transportation resources with my wife, and to intermingle social errands into my monthly shopping day. I could probably get by quite comfortably on 100 mobile SMS messages a month, no mobile voice service at all, and some kind of VoIP thing at home.

      My third desktop monitor is in active use at least 70 hours per week, and heavy use about half of that time (where its sacrifice would severely cramp my work style).

    9. Re: I don't have one now... easy peasy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Where?

    10. Re: I don't have one now... easy peasy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Learn protobuf. Build an offline version with their dataset. Share with the world until they sue you.

      Disclaimer: I'm too chicken to share

    11. Re:I don't have one now... easy peasy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This will be my last year without a smartphone, even I can't hold out any longer given how much of a hassle it's becoming these days to go without one. The world has gotten to a point where I am deliberately crippling myself these days and making things harder for no good reason.

  7. Nothing you can scroll on? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

    So nothing with a multi-line display? Bring on the knobs, switches, and lights! Batch processing FTW!

    --
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    1. Re:Nothing you can scroll on? by arth1 · · Score: 1

      So nothing with a multi-line display?

      Good thing vi works just fine for single line editing.

      That said, no scrolling doesn't really preclude multi-line displays. I remember consoles that operated in page mode, blanking and starting at the top when a page was full.

  8. Uh, yes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I managed to survive for 45 years before buying my first smartphone, back in 2010.
    If I had to do without one now, I'd miss it, because damn those things are convenient... but I'd manage, just like I did before. And so would everyone else.

    Wow, that was easy. Next question?

  9. Link to The Rules by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  10. Yeah, I'll just us my Apple Watch! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Phones are for boomers...

    1. Re:Yeah, I'll just us my Apple Watch! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No portable phone ever. That also means zero electronics like a watch or a tablet taken outside the house. There is simply no need to be connected 24/7 to anything else.

    2. Re:Yeah, I'll just us my Apple Watch! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How am I going to stream music?

    3. Re:Yeah, I'll just us my Apple Watch! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stream music on a PC, then. They do it just fine, and are allowed. You can get the smallest possible 10" laptop for this purpose. It will also let you surf the net and facebook on a small screen. A machine with a weak processor will have a battery lifetime just as long as a smartphone.

      But why stream? If you simply want to play music, use a dedicated device like an iPod or its many competitors.

    4. Re:Yeah, I'll just us my Apple Watch! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      An Apple Watch is a dedicated music device. In addition to streaming, it can store music locally.

  11. A very good deal. That's easy. by Qbertino · · Score: 1

    That one's easy. I'm a poweruser but giving up a smartphone for 12 months for 100 000$ sounds like a very good deal to me. No sweat. I'll check if I can apply as a non-USian.

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  12. Not difficult by war4peace · · Score: 1

    I spend most my time on desktops anyway, always one at hand except when I am going out.
    The string attached is the ban on using other people's smartphones. Friend shows you a funny cat video on his smartphone, you're fucked.

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    ...gis sdrawkcab (usually not responding to ACs; don't bother posting as AC)
  13. Of course by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm not addicted to it unlike most people. I mainly use it just to read novels on the go. Could just as easily switch back to a tablet or lord forbid an actual book.

  14. I can live with a 1996 cellphone... by drolli · · Score: 4, Informative

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    Full keyboard, wide display, email, probably enough to run ssh to my server and a VNC client......

    1. Re:I can live with a 1996 cellphone... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Battery Life: 8 min

    2. Re:I can live with a 1996 cellphone... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      8 minutes is way better than what these smartphones of today are able to last.

    3. Re:I can live with a 1996 cellphone... by geekymachoman · · Score: 1

      Yeah you just need a backpack to carry it around.

  15. I don't even HAVE a smart phone! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Where do I get my money?

    1. Re: I don't even HAVE a smart phone! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It says in fine print that if you've posted on Slashdot in the last 5 years, you aren't eligible.

  16. Totally by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I could totally live without a smartphone. Wouldn't miss it for a single second. But the rest of the world (my wife) seems to have an anxiety attack if I don't respond immediately.

  17. My entry by dskoll · · Score: 4, Funny

    "I will spend 12 months practicing defeating lie detectors." Thank you.

    1. Re:My entry by shanen · · Score: 1

      I'd give you a funny mod for that one (if I ever got a mod point).

      So far there haven't been many suggestions that seem related to the actual "contest", but maybe that's because everyone else is as confused as I am by the entire idea. I think the underlying motivation is that it's some sort of social commentary on people being too dependent on their smartphones, but I, too, am not getting the joke.

      (As the "propagator" of the so-called story I feel obliged to look over all the comments... However now I'm wrestling with the moral question as to whether that includes looking at the AC comments? Ah, wait. I have an excuse to (as usual) ignore them! I'm behind schedule on some other work I need to finish by Tuesday...)

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    2. Re:My entry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you will find AC posters are probably more likely to not have smart phones... I don't.

    3. Re:My entry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's an app for that ;-)

  18. could greed fear ego based suckage survive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    if we stopped clicking for even a few days?

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  21. no cell smart or otherwise by TheRealQuestor · · Score: 1

    I've been living without a smart phone/cell phone for over a year and it's been SO nice.

  22. Effortlessly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I could effortlessly give up smart phone.

    I could pretty easily give up cellular service entirely.

    These are conveniences. If they are requirements for your life, you need to reevaluate your life.

  23. Lie detector by Immerman · · Score: 3, Insightful

    And yet they can go their whole lives without ever being subjected to an accurate lie detector test. In fact, nobody has ever done anything else.

    That should be:
    "To make sure they don't get paid, Vitaminwater will subject them to a phony lie-detector test at the end of the year."

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    --- Most topics have many sides worth arguing, allow me to take one opposite you.
  24. Security/Privacy Hazard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've always had just a flip-phone. How many more articles need we read on Slashdot to prove that smartphones should not be used?

    1. Re:Security/Privacy Hazard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I finally ended up getting a smartphone this year because every flip phone I could find was twice the size of my old one. I'm hoping something more reasonable will be available once the new phone starts to go downhill - I'm sure it won't last a decade the way the other one did (the other one is actually still working but I think it may be on its last legs).

  25. Nope. Google calendar, Waze, E-Mail by talexb · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I keep myself busy with professional, family and social events, and everything goes into Google Calendar. Usually I add things from my Linux workstation, and those entries are all synced to my Google Pixel 2 phone. As something gets close, my phone will remind me, and Waze can also tell me it's time to start driving.

    I had the Twitter and Facebook apps on my previous phone (a Nexus 5) and consciously didn't install them on the Pixel 2 -- I spend enough time on social media as it is, I don't need to be crouched over a phone when I'm out -- that's when I should be chatting with friends, family, and people in my network. I even use my smartphone as a .. phone. I'm self-employed, so my clients can call me with questions. I have a stand-up meeting with my main client every day or two. Sure, I could use a land-line for that, but if he calls me and I'm travelling .. pfft.

    The smartphone's also my alarm clock and my camera. Giving up all (most) of the functionality of a smart phone isn't going to happen.

  26. Times have changed by sentiblue · · Score: 1

    Theoretically we can.. of course we can!!! I've lived through decades without it. There was a time the Samsung sliding open phone capable of a color screen was the shit! Nowadays smartphones bring much more than just lifestyle. It brings basic necessity to the World such as news, text, emails, information, etc... Yeah sure we can live without it but why even bother asking the question? Does it bring any value?

    1. Re:Times have changed by kenai_alpenglow · · Score: 1

      $100,000

  27. Yes by CptLoRes · · Score: 1

    Next question.

  28. I can do even better by religionofpeas · · Score: 1

    I can live without Vitaminwater for a year.

  29. Depends on the job by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I require it for work and the whole "being on call" thing. Under normal circumstances I could get away with a "dumb" phone tbh.

  30. Re: Which BSD is the worst? by Cmdln+Daco · · Score: 1

    NetBSD will never be SystemD ready.

  31. Lie-Detector? by gweihir · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And we have detected a bullshit-campaign. Lie-Detectors do not exist. The only thing that exists is elaborate pseudo-science scams that scare people into thinking their lies could be detected.

    Probably some people calculated how much getting this amount of attention would cost them conventionally and found that 100k plus, say, another 100k of work was actually very cheap.

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    1. Re:Lie-Detector? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They kinda work if people believe they work. Whoever came up with it seems to be pretty good at naming stuff -- nobody is calling them anything except "lie detector". Must've been Republicans. God knows Democrats suck at naming stuff.

    2. Re:Lie-Detector? by gweihir · · Score: 1

      That is my point: A lie-detector does not work by detecting lies in general circumstances. It works by making people scared of it, so they either a) do not dare to lie or b) are so very nervous when lying that the thing can actually detect something.

      Incidentally, the same mechanism is used in other areas, for example in data-leakage-prevention systems: They are completely useless against anybody competent, but they serve to scare people into thinking they would get caught. That the are frequently set far too sensitive is part of that.

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    3. Re:Lie-Detector? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just because it's mostly placebo, doesn't mean it doesn't work. Because it does, even if you know it's mostly placebo your subconsciousness will screw you over and make you much more nervous about lying than you normally would be. You can train to not give yourself away, but unless you do, the "detector" will totally work. Lie detector is not just about measuring your heart rate or whatnot, mostly it's about applying psychology to screw you over, get a feel of how truthful you are and maybe even get you to fess up. But most importantly, it's a good excuse to get you to answer questions, once you start talking a good interrogator will squeeze the truth out of you. Even if you can defeat the machine, you are still screwed if the interrogator is better at picking your story apart than you are at keeping it straight, which applies to most people. They do their side for a job, you are just an amateur liar.

    4. Re:Lie-Detector? by Chelloveck · · Score: 2

      Hey, now. Lie detectors are every bit as real as "vitamin" water.

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      Chelloveck
      I give up on debugging. From now on, SIGSEGV is a feature.
    5. Re:Lie-Detector? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, now. Lie detectors are every bit as real as "vitamin" water.

      Nice. I made the exact same joke to my wife when she told me about this.

  32. There are literally billions of people who could. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It wouldn't even be a challenge. That includes hundreds of millions of people in the western world. I have four smart phones and a tablet. I would trash them without a second thought for $100000, and it would not cause any problems whatsoever, especially if I could still use a simple mobile phone. I could bring my own. I still have one that I actively use and one that I haven't taken out of the box yet. My ebook reader doesn't have a touch screen, so I assume it would not be prohibited.

  33. Could I? I'd LOVE to. by argStyopa · · Score: 1

    I "went without a smartphone" for 35 years of my life, I think I could cope for a year for $100k.

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    -Styopa
  34. easy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I could live without any human interaction for a year. Bring on the EMP motherfuckers.

    1. Re:Easy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Easy for me too, because I'm generation X. I was born in 76. Grew up banging on my TI-99/4a. Later had an Amiga and surfed the web with it, and eventually built my own PC in 1997. Now I live in China. I never make a phone call, though I use my phone to communicate with friends and family via WeChat, to play music (ogg vorbis), and to read news the rest of the time. I could easily go back to computer only. The only pain in the ass would be having to use cash again after having gotten used to WeChat Pay. Millennials are totally fucked, however.

  35. Good PR by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    for only 100K (they are only going to pay 1 person, not *every* person that does it) they made slashdot and the local news last night. Great PR. The local news station did a poll and around 85% said they would. If they paid out every person that did it, then the moviepass people would be jealous.

    1. Re:Good PR by arth1 · · Score: 3, Informative

      for only 100K (they are only going to pay 1 person, not *every* person that does it)

      It's even worse. They are going to offer just one person a chance to win up to $100,000.
      First, you have to "win" a competition to become that one by sending a tweet and instagram outlining how that year would be. They will pick the "best" from all the entries (but they still retain the right to refuse you, should you be less than ideal for marketing purposes).

  36. easy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't own a smart phone

  37. Phone and answering machine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd be completely happy with a old phone and an answering machine, I've kinda become a troglodyte lately.

  38. Telegram and Chick-fil-A One by tepples · · Score: 1

    If I add a G4 Wireless to my laptop I will get 99% of my smartphone functionality

    The other 1 percent being communication services that your may employer or clients require of you and which are deliberately exclusive to iOS and Android and unavailable on Windows, macOS, and GNU/Linux. Creation of a new account on the Telegram messaging service is one example. Restaurants' apps for ordering ahead are another.

    1. Re: Telegram and Chick-fil-A One by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Android emulator. No problem.

    2. Re: Telegram and Chick-fil-A One by sound+vision · · Score: 1

      Telegram only required a phone number with SMS, not Android or iOS. At least last time I had an account. I did not even own a smartphone at the time I made it.

  39. what is a smartphone anyways? by gl4ss · · Score: 1

    thats what interests me about this.

    would a what would have been called a featurephone be okay? those have internet too.

    6310i has j2me, possibly the first phone to do so. so would it be okay?

    or can I just haul my laptop around?

    also the whole concept is fucking stupid exactly due to there being people who don't use one anyways. for me, I need to use them for development even if I participated. but then again it's just a publicity stunt.

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    1. Re:what is a smartphone anyways? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tell that to my grandma. She is computer-phobic, but uses a microprocessor in her TV, her feature phone, her microwave oven, her car, etc.

    2. Re: what is a smartphone anyways? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To make sure the candidate doesn't get paid, Vitaminwater will subject them to a lie-detector test at the end of the year.

      Whattacrock

    3. Re: what is a smartphone anyways? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Samsung has had J2ME a lot longer than the 6310I, and Nokia, by nature of Symbian OS was a relative latecomer to J2ME because, well, Symbian OS was just far more powerful than MIDP1.0!

  40. Too soon? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Really, anywhere outside the interstate corridors and a certain population density they don't do anything but collect texts. I have a cell phone, but keep it forwarded to a landline as I am surrounded by mountains. $100,000 please.

  41. Not a problem. I've never had a smartphone. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A cell phone for about a year...

    But no need for a "smartphone".

  42. Would a 1996 cell phone even work in 2018? by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 1

    The US is primarily 3G/4G. 1G/2G and AMPS networks have been mostly turned off. Would a 1996-era cell phone even work today? Flip phones, sure, but not from 1996!

    1. Re:Would a 1996 cell phone even work in 2018? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Indeed, I imagine they dug one out of a drawer and thought it would be perfect for their game without realizing that it wouldn't work. Hell, back in 2010 I had to give up my 1st generation digital phone from 1998 because I couldn't find a network that would register it.

      I don't know what is the oldest phone you can find that would still work, but I'm guessing that it would support 3G. It would have bidirectional texting and most likely have a camera as well.

      dom

    2. Re:Would a 1996 cell phone even work in 2018? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      2G networks still very much alive in d'EU

    3. Re:Would a 1996 cell phone even work in 2018? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I believe T-Mobile still has its 2G network operational, but I thought it was shutting down sometime soon.

      The easiest way to to do this would be to buy a flip phone on Verizon or a Nokia 3310 for AT&T/T-Mobile. Both should be 3G compatible. They might include some built-in apps, though, like video players or something.

      I suppose you could tear the guts out of one of them and insert it into a 1996 phone.

    4. Re:Would a 1996 cell phone even work in 2018? by toejam13 · · Score: 1

      This was my thought as well. While T-Mobile does still offer a few channels of GSM service for M2M connectivity (all on Band 4 in my area), does Verizon or Sprint still offer service compatible with an IS-95 (cdmaOne) handset? Also, with the deployment of 5G in 2019, will those older 2G channels still be around by the end of the challenge since the carriers plan on reallocating those channels?

      Might be a better idea to hand them a basic 3G phone with data connectivity disabled.

    5. Re:Would a 1996 cell phone even work in 2018? by n3r0.m4dski11z · · Score: 1

      It may work, but there wont be coverage. My 2004 era motorola i had to finally give up because of all the deadspots and declining coverage areas. They are not maintaining the old networks anymore it seems.

      in 1996 most people didnt have cell phones, they had pagers.

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    6. Re:Would a 1996 cell phone even work in 2018? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You could always use... drumroll... a landline phone!

      Re the article: while I technically own a smartphone, I don't really use it as such. Doing anything other than talk and text on a 10 year old htc is positively painful.

    7. Re:Would a 1996 cell phone even work in 2018? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, it would not, even for 911. Analog cellular networks were shut down in the US in 2008.

  43. Easy by Suki+I · · Score: 1

    Easy as cake.

  44. Pretty Sad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you couldn't, that says a whole lot about you, as it isn't difficult unless you have had your phone surgically grafted to your hand. Is this really what we've come to? Pathetic. Outlandishly pathetic.

  45. Yes by MpVpRb · · Score: 1

    My smart[hone sits unused on my desk most of the time
    I use my desktop computer for all computing and my wired telephone for voice
    I only use the smartphone when on road trips
    I rarely take road trips

  46. Arth1 = science fiction fable spewer in error by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Arth1 = science fiction fable spewer in error & no intelligence as a wannabe sysadmin vs. https://linux.slashdot.org/com... & why?

    * My post completely BURNED YOUR obviously SELF-UPMODDED by SOCKPUPPET +5 UPMODDED post w/ SOLID PROOF & TECH REASONS why ANY linux distro (a modern KUbuntu 18.04 LTS proves you wrong) would be STUPID ENOUGH to do DNS before file (hosts) in nsswitch as you said.

    Especilally when I prove systemd (in most modern Linux) DEFAULTS to a more than potentially kaminsky flaw redirected ISP DNS!

    (Which most will use by default unlike myself shifting to OpenDNS & most modems supplied by ISP's by default don't allow DNS change IN THE MODEM itself (which I just went thru getting 2 in a row that don't allow it - heck, 1 by technicolor from SPECTRUM (timewarner in my area formerly) DIDN'T EVEN ALLOW ME, or the remote TECHS mind you, INTO IT @ ALL (China supplied no less)).

    APK

    P.S.=> Answer that wannabe "sysadmin" ... apk

  47. Arth1 = marketer for CHINA lol... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Arth1 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" vs. https://linux.slashdot.org/com... & I'd like to know how you got a +5 when you are wrong vs. that proof & why you RAN vs. that?

    * My post completely BURNED YOUR obviously SELF-UPMODDED by SOCKPUPPET +5 UPMODDED post w/ SOLID PROOF & TECH REASONS why ANY linux distro (a modern KUbuntu 18.04 LTS proves you wrong) would be STUPID ENOUGH to do DNS before file (hosts) in nsswitch as you said.

    Especilally when I prove systemd (in most modern Linux) DEFAULTS to a more than potentially kaminsky flaw redirected ISP DNS!

    (Which most will use by default unlike myself shifting to OpenDNS & most modems supplied by ISP's by default don't allow DNS change IN THE MODEM itself (which I just went thru getting 2 in a row that don't allow it - heck, 1 by technicolor from SPECTRUM (timewarner in my area formerly) DIDN'T EVEN ALLOW ME, or the remote TECHS mind you, INTO IT @ ALL (China supplied no less)).

    APK

    P.S.=> Answer that wannabe "sysadmin"... apk

    1. Re:Arth1 = marketer for CHINA lol... apk by swillden · · Score: 1

      Hey APK, it's been a long time since you stalked me. It's like you just don't care anymore. That hurts, man.

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  48. Arth1 = crazy & STUPID preaching unhealth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Arth1 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" vs. https://linux.slashdot.org/com... & I'd like to know how you got a +5 when you are wrong vs. that proof & why you RAN vs. that?

    * My post completely BURNED YOUR obviously SELF-UPMODDED by SOCKPUPPET +5 UPMODDED post w/ SOLID PROOF & TECH REASONS why ANY linux distro (a modern KUbuntu 18.04 LTS proves you wrong) would be STUPID ENOUGH to do DNS before file (hosts) in nsswitch as you said.

    Especilally when I prove systemd (in most modern Linux) DEFAULTS to a more than potentially kaminsky flaw redirected ISP DNS!

    (Which most will use by default unlike myself shifting to OpenDNS & most modems supplied by ISP's by default don't allow DNS change IN THE MODEM itself (which I just went thru getting 2 in a row that don't allow it - heck, 1 by technicolor from SPECTRUM (timewarner in my area formerly) DIDN'T EVEN ALLOW ME, or the remote TECHS mind you, INTO IT @ ALL (China supplied no less)).

    APK

    P.S.=> Answer that wannabe "sysadmin"... apk

    1. Re: Arth1 = crazy & STUPID preaching unhealth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are mentally ill take some medication or get some therapy please.

  49. Already Doing It by DERoss · · Score: 2

    I have never owned any kind of mobile phone. My wife has a dumb phone, which we used while we were evacuated from southern California's Woolsey Fire.

    Our land-line phone at home (copper line, POTS) is self-powered by AT&T. When Southern California Edison (SoCalEd) goes down -- which happens several times a year -- VoIP (voice over Internet phone) dies as do those cell-phone antennas whose backup power systems have not been recently serviced. AT&T, however, remains available for me to call SoCalEd to report their outage.

    Our land-line phone gave us assurance that our house was still standing during the Woolsey Fire. We were able to call our house. The answering machine on the second floor answered, which meant that our house was okay and we even still had electricity. We know that Internet service (including VoIP) through Spectrum and some cell antennas were lost during the fire. In our community, however, the copper phone lines are all underground.

    No, I am not a Luddite. My entire career was in computer software. I just like to get away from the phone when I leave my house.

  50. Easily! by vadim_t · · Score: 1

    I'd be a prime target for such a test since I make very heavy use of my smartphone.

    But the thing is, a smartphone is simply a tiny, limited computer. It can be trivially substituted by any other computer in any circumstance where size is not a complete deal breaker.

    For instance I have my lunch in a bar, where I watch videos on youtube. Doing the same with a laptop might be a bit quirky, but there's no reason why I couldn't do that.

    Reading in the underground without a tablet would be inconvenient, as one needs to be seated to use a laptop. But it wouldn't be a particularly big deal. I could always print stuff, or perhaps use a Kindle if that's allowed.

    I guess the main inconvenience would be music, as I use bluetooth headphones, and carrying a laptop everywhere to work as a source would be a pain. But I'm sure I could still get a dedicated player for that.

    Overall, I could do this quite easily without really changing any of my usual patterns which currently heavily involve a smartphone.

    1. Re:Easily! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You don't need a laptop. Just a small Chromebook.

      That's how I do it. A Nokia 2610 candybar phone and the ASUS Chromebook I'm typing this on right now.

  51. Reverse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Want to do something meaningful? Pay someone who doesn't have a smart phone $100,000 to buy and use a smart phone for a year, with a minimum of 3 hours of usage per day, and then at the end of the experiment give it up for 3 months. That would be much more meaningful a test.

  52. Re:Could I? I'd LOVE to. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're disqualified if you don't have a Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and SnapChat account.

  53. COULD I? Did that, been there by charliemerritt03 · · Score: 1

    I lived without a cellphone for at least 50 years, and I didn't have a palmtop, laptop, fliptop or any of that. I did have a "home phone" but it was a definitely a "dumb phone". I used a home phone as a data link, acoustically coupled @ 300 baud, but that didn't actually make it smart, even if capable of downloading porn at several minutes per still picture. 50 years, don't know how I managed. Sitting here in 2018 I wonder how I was able to find anything without GPS, but for 100K I bet I could remember.
    {Really, wtf is wrong with kids these days?}

  54. Emulator under 2D barcode; Play-exclusive apps by tepples · · Score: 1

    If your laptop has enough CPU and RAM to run an Android emulator usably, good luck fitting its screen under the 2D barcode scanner of a quick-service restaurant's till when it's time to scan in for payment and rewards. And good luck lawfully acquiring applications in the first place if they're exclusive to Google Play Store. A lot of these applications aren't on F-Droid or Amazon, which I'm told are the primary app stores for users of Android emulators.

  55. "You don't have a Telegram account yet" by tepples · · Score: 1

    Then Telegram's account creation policy must have changed between when you signed up and when I tried a week ago. I put my phone number into the web interface on a PC running Firefox, and I got this error message:

    You don't have a Telegram account yet, please sign up with Android / iPhone first.

    Method: auth.sendCode
    Result: {"_":"rpc_error","error_code":400,"error_message":"PHONE_NUMBER_APP_SIGNUP_FORBIDDEN"}

  56. Same here. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I ownED a smart phone, and when it started flaking out I decided that the three years of use it gave me weren't worth the hundreds of dollars I paid for it. So I spend about 30 bucks on a dumbphone which has lasted over 4 years.

    Talk, text, calendar, notes. Everything else is just frivolity.

  57. Nothing easier than that! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My smart watch can be used for phone calls. For the rest I have a tablet.

  58. Pedantic, but... by shanen · · Score: 1

    IP = Internet Protocol not Internet Phone.

    But the handle is ringing a bell.

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    Freedom = (Meaningful - Coerced) Choice != (Speech | Beer^2), and sad sock puppets' bad mods avail them naught.
  59. Feedback improves your sense of direction? by shanen · · Score: 2

    .
    I have a good sense of direction (which gets practiced by not relying on GPS).

    I actually think my sense of direction has been honed and even improved by training against my smartphone. I've become better at retaining orientation in stairwell reversals and in "feeling" what maps actually mean on the ground without relying on distinctive landmarks as much as I used to.

    These days I've become increasingly able to study the map in advance and negotiate complicated routes without needing the smartphone--but it's also reassuring to have it available if I need it.

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    Freedom = (Meaningful - Coerced) Choice != (Speech | Beer^2), and sad sock puppets' bad mods avail them naught.
  60. This is silly by stomv · · Score: 1

    I work a professional job in a major city. I have a spouse and two kids, and fully participate in our household and parenting. I travel for work, and commute by mass transit, bike, or foot. We have a "home" phone. Up until December 2017, I didn't own a cell phone at all. It ain't hard folks. You just get used to planning a bit more ahead of time.

  61. The funny part is... by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 1

    That people actually think it is a severe hardship to go without the smartphone. Some people, the ad dept of this company, really think that everyone requires their smartphone, 24/7/365.

    I'd do it for 1% of that 'prize'.

  62. Hah! by yusing · · Score: 2

    I've managed to live quite well without a mobile phone, let alone a 'smart' one. When I see the ridiculous expense, and all the absurdly insecure apps, and all of the problems people have with them ... including tensions and dependency ... I don't see how the word 'smart' applies.

    It's a fucking telephone. It's also a computer with no keyboard and a 'monitor' like a game-boy. REtarded.

    It's like high-sugar cereal. And then people bitch when their teeth fall out.

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    "You must try to forget all you have learned. You must begin to dream." -- Sherwood Anderson

  63. Not as easy as some folks think by nehumanuscrede · · Score: 1

    Giving it up for daily texting / talking would be easy ( am an introvert and don't talk to anyone anyway ), not so much on the utility side of things though.

    For example:

    I use mine mostly as a music player. ( Both my active and inactive Smartphones have headphone jacks still :D )
    I can't log into many websites without a " code " they feel they need to send to my phone as pseudo-2fa.
    Some games ( think Steam and Blizzard ) both utilize 2fa via a Smartphone app. ( assuming anyone games anymore )
    My phone receives text message and email alerts anytime my Credit Card is used so I know instantly if the card has been compromised.
    My alarm system sends alerts via text messaging / email and the phone is first point of contact should it trigger.
    Via VPN, my smartphone can connect to my home network and access any of the security cameras and / or the NAS if need be.
    Prescription alerts and reminders come across as text messages.
    I don't even bother wearing a watch these days.

    So, it COULD be done, but I would be giving up a lot of convenience in doing so.

  64. i live without one already.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and have for the sixteen + years since the 'smart phone's "take off" in the north america market (i'm using the tmobile sidekick for a reference point here, 2002).

    i've never even ever sent a text (sms) message. NEVER. not on my phone, not on anyone elses.

    i also hate touchscreens (on tablets, laptops, all-in-ones, etc) of any kind, and don't own any except for by accident on a laptop (the feature has been disabled since day one of my ownership).

    i do have a cellular phone. it's a 'dumb phone' (which is 'permitted' in this context) on a 20 year old service plan (complete with roaming charges and everything) that's super fucking cheap because data and smartphone surcharges didn't exist then), and sms is disabled at the carrier.

    so where's my $1.6 million (and counting)??

  65. Sure, no problem by Albert71292 · · Score: 1

    I've already been living without one for a little over 53 years. Didn't get my first mobile phone until a couple years ago, and it's a cheap $15 flip Tracfone. Mainly bought it in case something comes up when away from the house. Rarely use it. Since the minutes roll over, I have over 1200 minutes accumulated so far.

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  66. Hire a millenial by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The first question is whether the $100k will be in escrow and with a solid enough contract to trust you'll get it at the end.

    If so, hire a cash-starved millenial for 50/50 split to be your valet for a year contingent on not allowing you to use anybody's smartphone by accident. Their secondary responsibility is to carry around appropriate equipment to act as your voice-activated internet terminal and secretary.

  67. Wow really? Fucking snowflakes by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

    I haven't had a smartphone in a decade.

    Where's my million dollars?

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    #DeleteFacebook
  68. That's "best ya got" vs. me being RIGHT? LOL! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's "best ya got" vs. me being RIGHT https://linux.slashdot.org/com... ? Weak & yes, I know it's YOU saying it like you TRIED to here too arth1 (albeit under your registered 'lusername' on 'mental' etc. https://slashdot.org/comments.... - do you REALLY think you've fooled anyone but YOURSELF that it's you again doing that bs - the default of FAILS online, lol? Please).

    * You F'd up BIG arth1 - the past modems I've gotten from ISP's didn't allow DNS change in them (& IF you don't overwrite resolv.conf as I do @ bootup, systemd makes a BAD ASSUMPTION & uses it exposing users to KAMINSKY FLAW REDIRECT POISONING which a good 95% of ISP DNS aren't patched vs. NEITHER ARE THEIR CHINESE MODEMS (that even my ISP couldn't get into as I couldn't on Spectrum rebranded TECHNICOLOR one I had to get a BETTER one vs. after that)).

    APK

    P.S.=> You did this to yourself arth1, again (4 billion no disk storage bs on hosts same for malware makers stupid)... apk

  69. You haven't taken shots @ me again... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject like arth1 did blowing it BAD https://linux.slashdot.org/com... & my post you replied to PROVES WHY EVEN MORESO (isp modems don't allow change from DNS default to their unpatched kaminsky flaw redirect poisonings MOST still aren't patched vs. TO THIS DAY - hence my need to switch to it (can @ resolv.conf level OS/IP stack side though overriding it) & NO PORT FILTERING which I demand in modems/routers).

    I put out KUbuntu 18.04 fully patched LTS not doing what he said "most linux distros now default DNS as default resolver" - why hasn't HE put that out then in nsswitch? Modern Linux use systemd & it MAKES THAT BAD ASSUMPTION exposing users to unpatched ISP DNS (systemd blows it there worse).

    APK

    P.S.=> Spout your bs all day long but I am right as rain & RAINING SHIT all over "your kind" FAKENAME, lol - you can't DENY it... apk

    1. Re:You haven't taken shots @ me again... apk by arth1 · · Score: 1

      what he said "most linux distros now default DNS as default resolver"

      What I said was not what you claim I said. Go back and check it.
      There's a big difference between many and most.

      The rationale is that Linux installations are often used in corporate contexts, where there may both be dynamic host name resolution, split horizons, wildcard processing and internal security blocking or monitoring access. Administrators often do not want the individual hosts to override what's in the corporate name server, but do want to be able to add entries for what the name server returns no results for.

      My post was attempting to be helpful, pointing out that if the host uses dns before files, a change is needed for your host list to have any effect. Note the if. This isn't saying that hosts entries doesn't work - it just points out a configuration change that may have to be made in some circumstances. Testing for that at installation time and throwing up a warning should be easy, and won't do any harm.

  70. car-crash television by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... "but not smartphones or tablets ...

    Since a fixed-location computer can do everything a touch-interface computer can do (specific games, excepted), this is about turning a teenager's FoMO and real-keyboard incompetence into car-crash television.

  71. prease2engrish by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    _grokparsefailure.

  72. arth1 4 billion failure... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    arth1 4 billion failure https://yro.slashdot.org/comme... & learn to read https://slashdot.org/comments.... "Rinse, Lather & REPEAT" & get your "HOOKED ON PHONICS" out troll...

    APK

    P.S.=> I think you understand YOU "F'd UP" BOTH TIMES just fine arth1 - yes, again, I KNOW it's you submitting by UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous again & being stupid as usual for you vs. me - you did them BOTH to yourself trying to "take me on" & FAILING as always, lol... apk

  73. For $10,000 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd recompile OctoPrint in webasm and have my iPhone run it to manage my 3D printers.

  74. I am still using my nokia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's easy-peasy for me as I don't own a smart phone.
    And I'm not a senior citizen to boot!

    CAP === 'objector'

    A phone to me is a phone

    To receive a call or to make a call

    And I am still using that nokia my dad gave me, some 20 odd years ago.

  75. Mr. Google Security Engineer RAN... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    swillden "Mr. Alleged 'security engineer'" RAN 3 yrs. ago from UPMOD proof on my posts on HOSTS https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... OR https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... calling them spam (despite upmods) vs. 117++ (now far more) users of hosts etc. https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... & he KNOWS registered /.ers here USE/LIKE/PRAISE my work (not his).

    swillden ALSO ate his words & RAN on when I asked him WHY GOOGLE THE ADVERTISER PULLED HOSTS FROM ANDROID KITKAT https://tech.slashdot.org/comm...

    HE OUTRIGHT RAN when I compared addons to hosts too https://tech.slashdot.org/comm...

    APK

    P.S.=> Dumbo, like I said - IDIOT wannabes like YOU start w/ me & I FINISH YOU OFF with facts you RAN from boy... apk

  76. GOOGLE SECURITY ENGINEER? Advertiser! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "(Disclaimer: I'm a Google security engineer" - by swillden (191260) on Tuesday February 10, 2015 @12:01AM (#49023323)

    IF that's true, then WHY/HOW did I RUN YOU OFF on hosts on a plethora of levels https://slashdot.org/comments.... & LIES you said about my posts on hosts (calling them 'spam')?

    (Which you also DOWNMOD HID & I reposted to burn you AGAIN, easily (just like you tried hiding my other posts too here))

    * OH "you have REVEALED YOURSELF UNTO ME" / "I SEE YOU" Google ADVERTISER BIGGEST SPAMMERS OF ALL TIME you hypocrite calling ME that (at least people like/use/praise my work, NOT YOUR ADS they hate that track/slow/INFECT them).

    Hosts stop your ads that track/slow/INFECT users = why you pull your CRAP boy.

    APK

    P.S.=> REAL SECURITY PROS disagree w/ YOU on hosts security efficacy etc. too BOY https://news.slashdot.org/comm... ... apk

    1. Re:GOOGLE SECURITY ENGINEER? Advertiser! by swillden · · Score: 1

      Feelin' the love, man, thanks!

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  77. LOL! Look @ arth1 "ReAcTiNg"... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who's right here, me (w/ proof supporting me) or you (no proof of a distro defaulting to DNS over file/hosts) https://linux.slashdot.org/com... ?

    * Why don't YOU quote what you said & post the URL for me, then we can discuss that too!

    (& I'll dust your ass like always, remember this one "4 billion" https://yro.slashdot.org/comme... when I stopped that botnet w/ only 10 ENTRIES, lol - then your 'theoreticals' blew up in your face too (lmao)).

    NOTICED YOU & swillden LIKE DOWNMOD HIDING YOUR FAILS vs. ME TOO like YOU did this post last time I posted it https://slashdot.org/comments.... = PROOF YOU KNOW YOU FAILED!

    APK

    P.S.=> Arth1, I didn't realize it, but I have literally 50 such BLATANT "F-ups", you starting w/ me 1st as always, only to KNOCK YOURSELF FLAT OUT for me, lmao - I don't have to TRY to win even - you SELF-DEFEAT yourself (lol)... apk

  78. You're feelin' your FAIL(s) vs. me, again... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject & "Rinse, Lather + Repeat" https://slashdot.org/comments.... & you started up w/ me here again too: A pleasure exposing you then (which you seem to ENJOY proving your kind is ASS BACKWARD like all millenial SNOWFLAKE sjw types are, lol).

    * Seems an AWFUL lot of REAL SECURITY PROS disagreed w/ you on hosts there too, lol Mr. "Google Security Engineer" (Google 'security' blows & tons of proof on that in recent breaches you've had too)! ... no comments?

    APK

    P.S.=> Of course not - all "your kind" (advertisers @ Google) do is FAIL vs. me constantly, lol... apk

  79. Re:LOL! Look @ arth1 "ReAcTiNg"... apk by arth1 · · Score: 1

    Who's right here,

    That is a stupid question. "What is right" is a good one, and people can judge for themselves, without you telling them.

    NOTICED YOU & swillden LIKE DOWNMOD HIDING YOUR FAILS vs. ME TOO

    No, that is your paranoia talking. Really, I have only one slashdot account, and cannot downmod or upmod anyone where I post. And no interest in doing so.
    Others upmod and downmod depending on what they read, and if what they read is crazy talk, chances are probably higher it will be modded down.
    Really, no one is out to get you. You're not that important.
    Some seem to like to jerk your chain and see you go off on a tangent, for amusement. But no one really cares enough about YOU to go after you.

    And when you say people are hiding or running, what really happens is that people roll their eyes and move on, not wasting more time. Again, you're not that important.
    What's written is written, and people can judge for themselves. People don't lose anything by simply moving on.

    Which I am doing right now. Call it running away or you smashing me or whatever you like - I don't really care, and I have better things to do than worry about you.

  80. 7 mo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am into my 7th month, not only without a smart phone, but without a phone altogether. I only communicate using email, remailers, AAMDirect II, and Bitmessage.

  81. Arth1, answer that simple question... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: Who's right - me (proof supports me) or you (no proof distros default DNS vs. hosts) https://linux.slashdot.org/com... ?

    MOST DO you SAY?? Which ones SO I CAN STRAIGHTEN THEM OUT ON THEIR BLATANT FUCKUPS! Tell me which do. I'll do THEM a favor & their users AS I HAVE SPECTRUM USERS WORLDWIDE due to the above.

    (ANSWER THAT 1st question (2nd on a list too), no more "evasive maneuvers" & I'll dust your ass like always, remember this one "4 billion" https://yro.slashdot.org/comme... when I stopped that botnet w/ only 10 ENTRIES, lol - then your 'theoreticals' blew up in your face too (lmao)).

    Don't try "play victim" w/ me SNOWFLAKE - you started it in the 1st link above - I just finished it & YOU with it, lol!

    APK

    P.S.=> For all your BULLSHIT now too? PLEASE, lol - you CERTAINLY aren't "moving on" are you?? Nope, lmao & you're AFRAID to "FACE THE MUSIC" as you DANCE to MY TUNE & you BROUGHT IT ON YOURSELF in that link above, boy... apk

  82. I'll pass...not enough money by Tony+Isaac · · Score: 1

    My job requires me to have a smart phone. I make significantly more than $100K per year. I'll keep my job and let somebody else have the prize, thank you!

  83. Without mobile by Pavanku92461891 · · Score: 1

    Yes I'm live without mobile for one year. Name-Pavan kumar Mobile No. +919616288996 From-(UP) INDIA

  84. You can have my smartphone when you pry it from . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My hands and give me a real phone. Antenna, replaceable LARGE battery (Read: at least 7 days standby and 2 hours talk time), able to roam on every network available in the US.

    Better yet: Give me a 3watt bagphone.