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Microsoft's Next-Gen Xbox Consoles Are Codenamed 'Anaconda' and 'Lockhart' (windowscentral.com)

According to Windows Central, there are two upcoming next-generation Xbox consoles in the works -- a cheaper "S"-style console to succeed the Xbox One S, and a more beastly "X"-style console to succeed the Xbox One X. "The codename for the 'S 2' seems to be 'Lockhart,' and the codename for the 'X 2' seems to be 'Anaconda,' which may also be serving as a dev kit," reports Windows Central. From the report: The next-gen Lockhart console will be the affordable SKU, providing the next-gen Xbox experience in a package potentially around as powerful as the current Xbox One X hardware wise, with refinements under the hood. The Anaconda console will be more powerful and more expensive, providing a cutting-edge console gaming experience. We've also heard Microsoft is exploring technology to dramatically reduce loading times, potentially including SSD storage in the package.

We've heard from multiple places that the next-gen Xbox consoles will be fully compatible with everything on your current Xbox One consoles, including your OG Xbox and Xbox 360 library via backward compatibility. We've also heard that Microsoft is working on a new platform for games dubbed "GameCore," as part of Windows Core OS, which the Scarlett family will support when it's ready. It extends the work Redmond has been doing on UWP. GameCore should make it easier for developers to build games that function not only on Xbox "Scarlett" consoles but also Windows 10 PCs, further reducing the amount of work studios need to do to get games running across both platforms.
The report doesn't mention if the cheaper next-generation Xbox console will be streaming-only, or if it will still support traditional discs and downloads. With a disc-free version of the Xbox One reportedly coming next spring, this seems like a possibility.

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  1. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 1

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  2. The Humanity by rmdingler · · Score: 1

    The report doesn't mention if the cheaper next-generation Xbox console will be streaming-only, or if it will still support traditional discs and downloads. With a disc-free version of the Xbox One reportedly coming next spring, this seems like a possibility.

    FWIW, I'm not a gamer, but I am responsible for most of the bills of a couple. Recently, a console malfunction destroyed several orders of many tens of hours of game play for one of my dependents, and the only recourse to recovery of the bulk of this digital experience was the repair of the existing equipment.

    Several failed, extensive and expensive, repair attempts later, the poor fellow has to redo many time units of gaming to return to a previous level of play. If only we'd been required to store game play advances in the Cloud with guarantees of retrieval approaching that of the Imperial Conditioning of Dr Yueh.

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    1. Re:The Humanity by mentil · · Score: 1

      There's zero chance that a 6Teraflop system equivalent to the Xbox One X would be streaming-only. If it were, that'd only require a 10W ASIC (even for 4K60), and they could sell it for 1/4 the price.

      I'm curious if the 'reduced loading times' will come from an Optane cache, these supposedly simulate the benefit of a SSD, even if using a hard drive. Of course this'd require Intel hardware like the original Xbox used, rather than the AMD used this generation. Of course in 2020 when this comes out, it might be cheaper to just use a SSD.

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    2. Re: The Humanity by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

      I don't know about using Optane a a reliable way to reduce loading times. The use cases for it are extremely narrow and specific. Plus it takes away from a M.2 slot. The new consoles would benefit much more from using a regular NVMe M.2 SSD in that slot. I could see MS implementing it and hyping the benefits when the benefits are small.

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    3. Re:The Humanity by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      Several failed, extensive and expensive, repair attempts later, the poor fellow has to redo many time units of gaming to return to a previous level of play. If only we'd been required to store game play advances in the Cloud with guarantees of retrieval approaching that of the Imperial Conditioning of Dr Yueh.

      Except for the times when the game itself corrupts the save and the cloud dutifully mirrors it. Happened at least twice - once to PSN (the PS4 OS had a serious bug and corrupted saves, and those saves migrated their way to the cloud, corrupting your saves there as well). I think Steam did as well to a lesser extent - a game corrupted the save and Steam promptly synced the corrupted save to the cloud.

  3. Re:16 Years Of Failure For MS Consoles by squiggleslash · · Score: 2

    Sorry, but you're wrong, the Amiga is WAY better than the Atari ST.

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  4. Posse Up!!! by Urinal+Pube · · Score: 1

    Hopefully, for my sake, the X2 will be indifferent to whether or not you got buns.

  5. Dislocated Jaws by mentil · · Score: 2

    The Xbox Anaconda will have DRM that strangles you to death, then swallows your wallet whole.

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    1. Re: Dislocated Jaws by Type44Q · · Score: 1

      Either that or crawl up your ass and eat your spleen.

  6. Price by dohzer · · Score: 2

    Also known as the "original-price" model, and the "over-inflated-price-due-to-the-fact-we-have-two-models" model.

  7. Xbox Was Worst Thing that Happened to Windows by BrendaEM · · Score: 1

    When Microsoft divided their effort between Windows and the Xbox, Windows suffered terribly.

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  8. Re:16 Years Of Failure For MS Consoles by gravewax · · Score: 2

    When sales levels are in the 10's of millions (e.g. 40m for xbox ~85m for ps) it really doesn't matter, both get great support, both are very successful and profitable (yes one more so then the other but from a users perspective those numbers just aren't relevant.)

  9. Anaconda eh? by rune2 · · Score: 1

    Sounds like that should be the code name for their Windows 10 updates... I sure got bit by that last one! It might be more honest to start naming these Windows releases after vicious animals.... Barracuda, Cobra, or Honey Badger anyone? These days you never know what you'll get when you click that "Check for Updates" button.... I've heard of click-to-run but this more like click-and-run.

    1. Re:Anaconda eh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It's a reference to "Baby Got Back" by Sir Mix-A-Lot: My Anaconda don't want none unless you got buns, hun.

  10. Re:16 Years Of Failure For MS Consoles by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

    The current Xbox is selling so badly that Microsoft refuses to not only give out sales numbers

    VGchartz reports them, in short: 85M total for PS4, 39M for XB1. I would not call that a failure but Sony certainly has a commanding lead.

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  11. Older examples of games requiring upgrade by tepples · · Score: 1

    I __really__ hope this does not turn out to be a new trend of console power divergence where there will be games that come out that can only run on the more powerful version.

    Such a trend would not be new. About a year after the Game Boy Color came out, most new games were Color-only to take advantage of its faster CPU, larger RAM, and larger video memory bandwidth. Likewise with GameCube to Wii.

    1. Re:Older examples of games requiring upgrade by CastrTroy · · Score: 1

      It's not a hard and fast rule though. Nintendo upgraded the 3DS and created the "New 3DS". There were very few games released that were exclusive to the "New 3DS". Only a handful of retail releases and a bunch of SNES ports that you could buy online. The most noteable were Minecraft and Xenoblade Chronicles.

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  12. Re:These will probably get released sooner than yo by JMJimmy · · Score: 1

    My opinion, who cares? The lack of quality exclusive content, the horrific user interface, and the overpricing of games means new hardware is pointless. All it will do is encourage lazy developers to build to the best version of the hardware and downplay any sluggish response on the original X1.

  13. of Games and Hardware by Xnet+Project · · Score: 1

    When it comes to the console space, powerful hardware is a plus, however a solid set of games, and not just exclusives must follow suit; otherwise having a powerful console alone with a lackluster list of games to play will fall short as we've all seen throughout 2017 / 2018 years. For the sake of console gaming as a whole in the Xbox realm; one should hope the abundance of solid games will be as plentiful as the power of hardware being used.

  14. Re:16 Years Of Failure For MS Consoles by L_R_Shaw · · Score: 1

    "VGchartz reports them"

    Are you fucking joking?

    You actually just reposted fake sales numbers from a site run by a twenty something year old kid who lives at his mom's house.

    There's a reason Microsoft refuses to release their horrendous sales numbers or even shipment numbers.

    The Xbox One isn't anywhere near 39 million or even 35 million worldwide. What is hilarious about those made up numbers is they don't even make sense...

    The Xbox One is MAYBE around 30 million worldwide.

  15. Re:16 Years Of Failure For MS Consoles by L_R_Shaw · · Score: 1

    LOL

    What fucking planet are you posting from???

  16. Re:16 Years Of Failure For MS Consoles by L_R_Shaw · · Score: 1

    Holy shit!

    We've found the craziest Xbox Dead Ender of the day.

    Angry, delusional wackjobs like you are why the console market hates the POS Xbox and its tiny group of hateful and pathetic fanboys.

    It is glorious just how bitter you are over some piece of shit console failing in the market. Go back to crying yourself to sleep in your Halo jammies.