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Burnout, Stress Lead More Companies To Try a Four-Day Work Week (reuters.com)

An anonymous reader shares a report: Work four days a week, but get paid for five? It sounds too good to be true, but companies around the world that have cut their work week have found that it leads to higher productivity, more motivated staff and less burnout. "It is much healthier and we do a better job if we're not working crazy hours," said Jan Schulz-Hofen, founder of Berlin-based project management software company Planio, who introduced a four-day week to the company's 10-member staff earlier this year.

In New Zealand, trust company Perpetual Guardian reported a fall in stress and a jump in staff engagement after it tested a 32-hour week earlier this year. Even in Japan, the government is encouraging companies to allow Monday mornings off, although other schemes in the workaholic country to persuade employees to take it easy have had little effect. Britain's Trades Union Congress (TUC) is pushing for the whole country to move to a four-day week by the end of the century, a drive supported by the opposition Labour party. The TUC argues that a shorter week is a way for workers to share in the wealth generated by new technologies like machine learning and robotics, just as they won the right to the weekend off during the industrial revolution.

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  1. Beware by MrLogic17 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    From personal experience: one employer offered a 4x10 week for better "work/life balance".
    My local manager saw that and said, essentially, "oh, so you can work 10hr days. We need you in on Friday too."

    Beware.

    1. Re:Beware by SantiagoMcRib · · Score: 2, Interesting

      From personal experience: one employer offered a 5x8 week for better "work/life balance".
      My local manager saw that and said, essentially, "oh, so you can work 8hr days. We need you in on Saturday too."

      I mean... I see what you're saying and agree with the problem of some management mentality, but I don't know that I completely agree with this conclusion. A manager will get as much out of an employee as the employee will allow. The form of the work week doesn't make a boss better/worse.

    2. Re:Beware by jellomizer · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I had implemented Flex Time at my previous job. Giving employees freedom, isn't taking your hands off the reigns. You need to be sure you have people covering every day that your business is open. So if they all take Friday off, then you need to make sure there is some sort of rotation, or rule. Either you have a first come first serve, or a rule that you cannot take the same days off every week. Or make sure there is enough coverage every day, by other means.

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    3. Re:Beware by Mashiki · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yeah just watch out for things like firefighting and policing, which is where this brainwave is currently heading as well. Every police service that I know of in Ontario that's tried it, has had massive screwups, jumps in complaints, more gun-draw incidents, and so on. The brain only handles working for so long before you start screwing up rather hard. Luckily, most realize how bad of a screwup it really is. Sadly a friend of mine who's currently in Division E(BC) is stuck in a 4x12(3.5 off) rotation for a year because of a lack of available mounties(RCMP). He's better off then some people who get remote locations and their RCMP jail is also in their house.

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    4. Re:Beware by geoscodin · · Score: 5, Interesting

      We have several people working four 10s and taking off Fridays, so I took Mondays and worked four 10s t be sure we always had coverage. Suddenly I didn't hate Mondays anymore. Plus having a specific workday off every week allowed me better plan medical appointments, vehicle maintenance, deliveries, etc. while still providing a three day weekend which could be use to do home projects while still getting a day of actual rest, or short trips to refresh and recharge that allowed a full day at the wherever, and didn't include driving to a place on Saturday and back straightaway the next day.

    5. Re: Beware by Shotgun · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Grow a pair.

      Yes. You heard me. Grow a pair.

      The minute you say, "No", is the minute they back off. You work too much, because you're afraid they might decide they don't need you. But, if they needed you so much to force you to work that much, they need you too much to fire you.

      Simply say, "No. You don't pay me for that. You pay for 40 hours. You got 40 hours. See you Monday."

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    6. Re:Beware by aaarrrgggh · · Score: 4, Interesting

      We do a 4-9-4 schedule, and I really like it. It makes Friday a pretty chill day, and I only need to take 4 hours of PTO to have a 3-day weekend. 4-10 Is painful, especially for the poor saps that end up working 10 hours on Friday. I guess they can get Monday off, so YMMV...

      I don't think 4-10 would reduce burnout. The main factor for combating work-related burnout is to make work fun and interesting... which simply isn't always possible.

      Maybe I will propose a 4-1 schedule next year...

    7. Re:Beware by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The oddest schedule I've ever seen was an 8-12-12-8 four day work week... on Friday through Monday. The position was doing international tier 3 tech support, and paid well, but it was absolutely the kiss of death for a social life.

    8. Re: Beware by Anubis+IV · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Try being a programmer. You're exempt [...]

      Whoa whoa whoa. Who says you're exempt? I'm a full-time software developer and I'm not exempt. I've never been exempt. I get paid time-and-a-half for every minute over 40 hours and always have.

      If your employer has you categorized as exempt and is abusing it in the ways you're suggesting, you're at a bad company, plain and simple. The only valid reason I can think of to classify a programmer as exempt is if there's an expectation that they be on call, and if that's the case, there should already be additional compensation established. Anything less and you're working at a bad place. Leave.

    9. Re:Beware by Austerity+Empowers · · Score: 2

      Given the choice between working one employee twice as hard or hiring another employee, they will work the existing one twice as hard every time. Free work.

  2. Employers' Other Work/Life Balance Strategy by imperious_rex · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Many companies are striving to relieve their employees of burnout and stress through "early retirement offers" and "layoffs" thus taking the "work" out of "work/life balance". It's great for the companies, but not so much for the former employees and the remaining employees who have to take up the slack.

  3. Re:Like That's Really Going to Work! by jellomizer · · Score: 2

    The question is where is all your stressors in life?
    I don't find my work that stressful, however I find not being able to run chores, or be with my family during business hours as stressful.
    For me there is little difference getting home at 6:00 at night vs 8:00 at night. I am still tired at the end of the day and really don't want to do too much. So the time from when I get home from work to when I go to bed, it mostly wasted time. However If I had a day free during the week day where places are open, and there is light outside, I can do things that I normally won't be able to do unless I am on vacation.

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  4. Many Americans already have a 30 hour work week... by mattotoole · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...whether they want it or not -- so they can still be considered "part time," with no benefits.

  5. 4x10 Works for OBVIOUS reasons in certain scenario by aaronb1138 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The 4x10 work week is great for people with low to moderate stress desk jobs. It's awesome because they work the same cycle of 1.5-3 high productivity hours each day and the rest filler, faffing, and socializing. The huge WLB benefit is having a weekday to deal with all the bullshit personal business which is not available after hours or on the weekend (e.g. every interaction with state and similar -- all the shit businesses working banker's hours).

    It's an awful idea in healthcare, emergency services, and law enforcement; the same applies to 3x12/4x12 cycling hot in healthcare specifically. The only reason it's being pushed in those fields successfully is each one of those lacks oversight, accounting, and personal responsibility for mistakes up to and including death of those being served. And it's just piles of additional days off for those people who corner themselves (accident I swear) into as much overtime as the bosses will let them get away with.

    Side note: these remarks apply to the US. I've heard the rest of the world is mostly more reasonable and people who work public service jobs are actually interested in public service rather than Cadillac pension plans.

  6. What happened to the promise of a 4 hour workday? by rsilvergun · · Score: 2, Insightful

    in the 20s, 30s 40s and even up till the 60s there was talk of less and less hours. And then it just stopped. 40 hours was "standard" with most doing 50+. Why the hell was it so easy to get the working class to work so hard for so little and just grin and bear it?

    For the record, 86% of the manufacturing jobs lost were due to automation, not outsourcing. We're not being out-competed, there's just plain less work to do. And instead of working less we're all fighting among ourselves to see who gets to be the lucky guy that gets to do what little work is left.

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  7. 9/80 to ease into it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    A company I worked at had a 9/80 schedule. you worked 9 hour days, got every other friday off and the friday on was a 1/2 day. It worked out really nicely easy to schedule all those errands that you normally have to fit in after or before work. Though I must say that the best contract I had was 4/32 and you could pick friday or monday as the day off it was amazing how refreshed you were at the start of each week after a 3 day weekend and it didn't hurt that I was also able to work from home a day each week as well.

  8. Re:What happened to the promise of a 4 hour workda by fustakrakich · · Score: 2

    4 hour workday?

    Died with nuclear power...

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  9. Re:A bit more complicated, perhaps? by ceoyoyo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    People have. The average white-collar worker does about two to three hours of productive work per day. The rest is playing on the Internet, chatting, wandering the halls, daydreaming, etc.

    Many jobs are superfluous. Apparently, some people in these superfluous jobs experience significant amounts of stress due to having to convince themselves that their job is actually useful.