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Two Miles From Facebook's Headquarters, Working Poor Live In Trailers (mercurynews.com)

"The working poor are spilling into Bay Area streets for lack of safe, affordable shelter," report two Silicon Valley newspapers describing a "pop-up neighborhood" that's now banding together, "a small community of blue collar RV dwellers...fighting for the only place they can call home."

The beautifully-illustrated article begins with an interview with a grey-haired woman named Lisa Cosey-Steven: [D]espite steady work and little debt, she trudges back and forth to the office every day from a dark RV trailer, packed floor to ceiling with bags of clothes, pet supplies for her seven dogs, thriller novels and food. Cosey-Stevens, 63, has been parked on the shoulder of Bay Road in East Palo Alto, just about two miles from Facebook headquarters and some of the wealthiest neighborhoods in the country, since June. "No one knows how badly I want out of this," she said during an interview in her trailer. "It's depressing to live like this...."

She's part of an unplanned and impromptu RV park, about 80 people pushed out of apartments and into trailers and the edge of homelessness... Their neighborhood of about 50 RVs lines the eastern end of Bay Road and Tara Street, next to a stretch of salvage yards, warehouses and empty lots guarded by chain link fence. It's just off a thoroughfare for local tech employees and sits adjacent to the site of a new, multi-million dollar youth education center, Epacenter Arts. Several of the aging RVs have large banners draped over the sides, making pleas to the big employers in the area: "SOS -- Facebook, Sobrato, Amazon, Google."

The [RV Families Association of East Palo Alto] has a grand vision for East Palo Alto, a city steeped in activism and landlord-tenant disputes: to get a few acres donated by a major tech company to build an RV park with security, facilities and regular, affordable rent for low-income workers. But first, they're fighting City Hall to keep their homes. A proposed ordinance working its way through city government would ban most RVs from overnight parking on city streets.

"It's not like they're trying to be a nuisance to the city," says the mayor of East Palo Alto. "It's a survival thing. It's a strategy, a tactic to survive for a while."

"We are the working homeless," says a 57-year-old upholsterer and Navy veteran "who moved into his RV after his rent in East Palo Alto doubled to $4,000 a month." Another family lost their Redwood City apartment when their landlord increased the rent from $1,300 to $2,800 a month.

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  1. and yet by phantomfive · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And yet cities continue to build new office buildings without building enough places for people to live, then wonder why there aren't enough places for people to live. When more people come without enough places to live, that will drive prices up: that is how supply and demand works.

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    1. Re: and yet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Well duh, the people that own property continue to vote for no new housing to be built. They do not want their property to depreciate from adding more housing.

    2. Re:and yet by rtb61 · · Score: 1, Insightful

      They call it the outer burbs, satellite cities, with high speed express public transport to central city locations. Regionalised high speed rail projects. Just because you work in the city does not mean you should live in it or would want to, you just need to solve the population transport method from satellite towns (residential communities) to the cities. Now what is interesting is, business will attach themselves to those residential communities shifting job opportunities from the city to those residential communities reducing the level of transport required from the residential communities to the city centre.

      The fossil fuellers and car manufacturers are actively conspiring through lobbyists to block these kind of solutions, in the US and hence people living in the streets, ahh sheer unadulterated greed, Americans are all the Adams family.

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    3. Re: and yet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Cities in the US have actually abandoned constructing any buildings.

      Sorry! Any Rand got her way.

    4. Re:and yet by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Insightful

      An hour long train ride is not a good substitute for building housing where people actually want to live. I live in Silicon Valley, and we have mile after mile of low-rise sprawl. There is plenty of space to build high density housing in the core area where the jobs are.

      Liberals love to criticize Republican tax cuts for the rich, but coastal city zoning regulations contribute as much to income inequality by keeping people of modest means away from the best job opportunities.

      Zoning laws and the rise of inequality

      Fighting inequality through zoning

      The left is waking up to inequality cause by zoning

      When it comes to inequality, liberals need to stop asking "Who can we blame for this problem" and start asking "What can we do to fix this problem."

    5. Re:and yet by Darinbob · · Score: 2, Insightful

      For me, if I have to live in an apartment building it had better not be downtown! That place sucks; bad air, litter on the street, drunks sleeping in your doorway, high crime rates, endless noise, and even worse, hipsters. I'd want to get out of that even without the extra space. Besides, most of the higher paying jobs are NOT in downtown areas in the Bay Area. San Francisco itself seems to have turned into a bedroom community since so many people commute out of it to the less dense and more affordable areas.

    6. Re:and yet by djinn6 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      In my town, the high density housing that comes out of this mindset ends up being luxury 1 bedroom condominiums starting at 750k. Renovicting people who have been paying decent rents in a duplex or small low rise apartment, and pushing them to things like in TFA which is forming RV shantytowns.

      That luxury condo is still soaking up a bunch of the richer tenants from other apartments, leaving those for the less rich. If you build enough of those, the ordinary apartments are going to have plenty of space for everyone who was evicted.

      If you want to fix the problem, either build 1k-2k /per month apartments that can fit a family, or houses that arent over 500k.

      Asking developers to sell for below cost just isn't going to work. Nobody can build a house for $500k in the Bay Area and nobody will invest $1 million to get a $24k annual rental income, of which $20k goes to property tax and $5k goes to utilities and maintenance (notice how $24k < $25k).

      Ban people from owning more than one property in the same regional district is my starting idea.

      What do you do for the existing properties they own? And what about those owned by businesses?

      Increase the cost of money

      That reduces construction of new units, since those are funded by loans too.

      don't allow foreigners to purchase land.

      Might not make much of a difference in the Bay Area. According to this site, less than 10% are all cash sales (which is indicative of foreign investment).

    7. Re:and yet by GameboyRMH · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That's a hilarious quote, liberals are the ones actually proposing legislation to fix the problem rather than just giving out tidbits of advice on how to get a real good grip on your bootstraps.

      But the right probably sees that legislation as "blaming" because they don't want the people benefitting from the explosion of inequality to stop benefitting - even poor people on the right who are taking the brunt of the damage, but willingly hurt themselves for the sake of stupid-ass culture war horseshit, just as planned by their wealthy masters.

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  2. Simple solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    Force Silicon Valley companies to move to other parts of the country at gun point.

  3. Re:Socialism? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Why does Slashdot have so many anti-capitalism articles. Iâ(TM)m assuming most of us have tech careers and are making at least low six figures. The current system is working for us! Who are these articles supposed to appeal to?

    I can't speak for Slashdot or the intentions of their staff. Having said that, not every communication is designed to "appeal to" you. Sometimes, the purpose is to show you a view that you may not already agree with in order to promote thought and discussion.

    I'll give an example. Given your comment above, one could ask the question: do you care about the large numbers of people for whom the current system is not working very well? Can you imagine any way(s) to improve things for them that don't require sacrificing the situation you enjoy?

  4. Re: Seven dogs by Kohath · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If you decide your priority is to "care for" 7 dogs over [something else], then why should others have sympathy that you don't have [something else]? You picked 7 dogs because that's what you wanted most.

  5. Re: Seven dogs by TimMD909 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Having that many animals is a sure sign of mental illness. Not being glib. For that fact alone, I'll give some sympathy. That said, your point is valid.

  6. They live in RVs? Those are the lucky ones by Benfea · · Score: 2, Insightful

    America has a growing problem with homeless people with full-time jobs, and it's worse in places like Silicon Valley, where all the tech yuppies have driven up real estate prices. The working class people with RVs are the ones who are doing pretty well as silicon valley has lots of wage-earners in much worse shape than that.

    It pains me to admit this, but the fact that America--the wealthiest nation on Earth--has a growing number of homeless people with full-time jobs is perhaps an indication that it's time to admit that capitalism failed, and it did so more or less the way communists predicted, which is more or less the way it failed the last time. Even with its bread lines, the Soviet Union did a better job of providing for the well-being of the population than this.

    1. Re:They live in RVs? Those are the lucky ones by Uberbah · · Score: 3, Insightful

      And it is usually because those people are unable to move to other areas where housing is much cheaper and taxes are much lower.

      FTFY. If someone has so little money that they are homeless, they by definition don't have thousands of dollars to move hundreds or thousands of miles away and risk signing for an apartment with no guarantee of a job.

      I hope you don't actually believe that kind of stuff. Western capitalism has lifted more people out of poverty than anything the world has ever seen.

      Utterly laughable statement. Capitalism traded human beings for profit for hundreds of years. Capitalism kept coal workers on starvation-level wages while forcing them to rent in company towns while being paid in scrip that could only be used at company stores. Capitalism sees Wal-Mart tell their employees how to apply for state benefits (because they pay so little money) and organizes food donation drives for their own workers so they can eat. Capitalism sees the richest man in the world higher ambulances to sit outside warehouses to treat workers for heat stroke because its cheaper than installing air conditioning.

      I could go on all day. But aside from all that, every job that has ever been created has come from demand, or expected demand. Not capitalism. Not "job creators".

      Communism, on the other hand, has ACTUALLY failed most every place it has been tried in addition to the murdering more than 100 million of it citizens.

      You know the population of the Soviet Union increased when Stalin was in power, yes? Despite the country losing almost 30 million people during WWII. You capitalist fundamentalists are more full of shit on capitalism and communism than Birther's are on the subject of birth certificates.

  7. Cause and effect, not fault. by raymorris · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Not sure why some are always looking for who to blame, while actively denying the very basic idea of cause and effect.

    The ASPCA says the *nationwide* average cost per dog is $1,000-$2,000 / year. Things cost 43% in California, on average, so that's roughly $2,100 / year per dog. Total $15,000 / for the dogs. That's what dogs cost. It's not someone's FAULT, it's just a fact. Dogs need food, vet care, etc. If you spend $15,000/year on dogs, and another $15,000/year on whatever odd choice, you're left with less money to take care of yourself. That's called arithmetic, not fault.

    It's funny - just this morning I had a conversation with my daughter, mostly listening to her talk. First she said she wanted all of the toys in the Ryan's Toy Reviews line, now available at Walmart. Next, she said she'd spend ALL of her money on those toys. "But then I couldn't get any other toys", she said. "I want to have money in my gifting cup to buy gifts for my friends", she continued. With me barely saying a word, she quickly reasoned through that she did NOT want to spend all of her money on Ryan toys. Maybe just one, she decided. Maybe one Ryan toy would be good.

    My daughter understands the cause and effect of choosing to spend money on one thing means you don't have that money for other things she wants. She's four. Four years old.

  8. Um.... Dogs are cheap by rsilvergun · · Score: 4, Insightful

    you buy dry food in bulk and put them down if they get sick. Also, if you're a 63 year old woman living in a trailer you need a lot of dogs for protection. She could ditch every one of those dogs and wouldn't have the extra $2k/mo it takes to rent a tiny, dumpy apartment.

    And what's with all the non-stop poor shaming? Is this supposed to make you feel better about abandoning these folks to their miserable fate? Does it? Somewhere in the back of your mind it's gnawing on you, how you're letting fellow Americans live like shit. The Americans who do work you want done.

    Bottom line, You want those people to live near where you are so they can cook, clean and fix your plumbing but you'll be damned if you want to pay for them to have an OK life. When people bitch about "gentrification" that's what they're talking about. You know that's messed up, so you do crap like this to try and convince yourself it's their choice. Gives you an out, but like I said, it gnaws on you, doesn't it?

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    1. Re:Um.... Dogs are cheap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Poor shaming is unrelated to doing math, working out a budget and understanding priorities ... which apparently this person and you don't understand.

      Apparently you'd rather whine then go help this woman understand what she can do to make better choices. Will whining or making better choices serve her better in the long run?

  9. Re:The government used to build infrastructure by Ichijo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Folks don't realize how heavily the US Government subsidized their lives in the 50s, 60s and 70s...the government ain't paying anymore

    Actually, city governments heavily subsidize low-density housing for the affluent, wasting land on single-family residential homes that could be used for apartments which house more people, bring in more tax revenue per acre, and require less infrastructure per person. Inefficient zoning is why housing is in such short supply and expensive, why cities have so much traffic, and why cities have budget problems. It's all a big mess, and government is the problem. Yes, much of it started after WWII, with government-backed mortgages and the mortgage interest deduction, but these subsidies continue to exist to this day.

    And property taxes assessed on the value of the land perversely incentivize people to come out in droves to oppose anything that can raise the value of their properties. For example, relaxed height limits, minimum setbacks, maximum floor area ratios, and minimum parking requirements--these things all attract NIMBYs like flies to a feast. It's all one big, fantastic mess.

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  10. Re: Seven dogs by sjames · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I guess you missed the part where rent has recently doubled. In other words, she could afford the rent and the dogs just fine and then the rent doubled.

    What would you have her do, take the dogs to the landlord's house and shoot them execution style on the front porch?

  11. Re:The government used to build infrastructure by swillden · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Land developers sure as hell aren't going to pay to get that land ready themselves

    Utter nonsense. Land developers routinely do all of that prep themselves. They have to follow lots of government rules about how to lay out the streets, what access roads to build, how to build all of the wiring, plumbing and sewer infrastructure, etc., but it's the developers who foot the bill, not the city. As far as I can tell, it has always been that way, too.

    Obviously I'm not saying you should feel sorry for the land developers; they make great profits on their investments. But government doesn't do any of this.

    The result is massive housing shortages in a lot of places.

    Government is the cause of the housing shortages in the bay area, but because of the restrictions it imposes, not because of the things it fails to do. Developers would love to build lots of high density, multi-story housing in the area, but the city councils won't allow it, because they're in the pockets of the long-time residents who love the fact that the house they paid $30K for decades ago is now worth $2M.

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  12. Land devs do the prep for high dollar homes by rsilvergun · · Score: 3, Insightful

    which is why the average price of a home is north of $200k but Median income's around $67k/yr.

    Residents don't care about property values. In fact they hate that their homes are "worth" $2M (more like $500k actually) because they can't afford the property taxes and they get forced out of the neighborhoods they spent their lives in.

    Nobody really wants to live in a high density multi-story building for very long. I don't think humans are wired for that. You can do that in your early to mid 20s, but when you decide you want kids it's not gonna fly. We're used to having open space. Kids need a place to play. With proper transportation and building that's not really necessary either. But it means more highways, more roads and more infrastructure spending, and that means taxes on the ultra wealthy. It means putting an end to the wealth inequality that's as bad as it was in the 20s now. It means taking all that absurd power the 1%ers have away from them.

    The question is, are guys like you gonna like the 1%ers have unlimited power, becoming the new kings? That seems to be the case. I'm not sure why you're doing it, I think you're just "kicking down", e.g. looking down on folks below your social standing to feel better about yourself. There's a saying I've heard before: if nobody's poor then nobody's rich. Thing is, that's an emotional thing, that desire to feel wealthy in the sense that you have more than other folks. It's being exploited to keep working class Americans at each other's throats. It's biting you in the ass. You're having everything taken away from you gradually and that's how the 1%ers are getting away with it. You might die before the worst of it happens (e.g. "I got mine, fuck you" school of economics) but if you're under 55 you won't. Nows the time to stop screwing around and shitting on the poor to make yourself feel better short term and actually solve the problems in your life and mine.

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  13. How to Really Help by BrendaEM · · Score: 4, Insightful

    1. Decriminalize homelessness.
    2. Establish emergency minimal-level shelters were people can shower/sleep, and wash their clothes.
    3. Allow people to sleep in their cars, one car, one night, one block,
    4. Require people who buy homes to own then for no less than 5 years or be fined, unless proof of financial hardship, divorce or partner split.
    5. Restore Section 8 Housing for people with disabilities.
    6. Discourage foreign investors and companies from purchasing homes.
    7. Rezone areas to end single-family homes.
    8. Make sure that homeless people can vote.
    9. Rezone certain industrial and business buildings for shelter use.
    10. Require all non-profit charities to abstract their organization or religious presence from their offer of help.
    12. Require all California cities and towns to take in a certain percentage of the the homeless people.
    13. Vote out the people who only represent rich people.

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  14. Re: Seven dogs by thegarbz · · Score: 3, Insightful

    In other words, she could afford the rent and the dogs just fine and then the rent doubled.

    Could she? No where in the article does it say her rent doubled. In fact it talks about the rent of other people. Additionally she is 63 years old, close to retirement age. The inside of her RV looks precisely what you would expect from an incredibly poor person, shit and bags piled up absolutely everywhere.

    Make no mistake about it, this woman has a mixture of poor life choices and bad luck written all over her. She has been living paycheck to paycheck shouldering an incredible expense she could not afford in a city she clearly could not afford to live in. Mind you she's 100% mobile now, wants out of this life, but still doesn't leave where she's at in search of something suitable ... and she still has dogs she can't afford, so higher brain function is clearly lacking somewhat.

    She was always going to end up in an RV. She's prioritised her dogs and living in an expensive city over a suitable financial buffer to get her through her old age. She won't be able to work forever and at that point the dogs are as good as dead.

  15. Re:Seven dogs by GameboyRMH · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I didn't RTFA, but deplorables aren't deplorable because they're poor. In fact many deplorables are rich. What makes deplorables deplorable is their support for white nationalism and a trashy dogshit racist manchild president.

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  16. Piffle by onyxruby · · Score: 1, Insightful

    These problems affect poor people in liberal areas the most. However the housing crisis is also solvable. Three simple changes will remove the regulatory hurdles that prevent the market from resolving the housing crisis:

    Remove setback requirements
    Remove height requirements
    Remove zoning restrictions for high density housing

    Reducing regulatory overhead is a conservative value. It's also the only value that can solve the housing crisis as it allows the law of supply and demand to work. Unfortunately for current homeowners these changes will lower property values as the market adjusts to new supply. You can't solve the housing crisis by adding more regulations. Choose your values.