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How Google Software Won 2018 (engadget.com)

Google is relatively new to the hardware game -- at least compared to rivals Apple and Samsung. But it's not just what's outside that matters. An analysis, by Engadget : The Pixel 3 is the best example. Physically, the phone is a more premium version of the Pixel 2. But aside from that, nothing about the Pixel 3's design makes me yearn for the phone. In fact, the 3 XL even has one of the biggest screen notches in the market, which some people find hideous. And yet, the Pixel 3s were still one of our favorite phones of the year, and ended up on our best gadgets list. But if you can stomach the notch, or don't mind using the smaller phone, then boy, will you be blown away by Google's software. Let's start with my favorite -- Call Screening.

On the Pixels, you can have Assistant field calls for you without having to answer the phone or even say a single word. It's easy to dismiss this feature as simply a glorified voice messaging system, but it's so much more than that. Assistant will ask your caller what they want, transcribe what they're saying in real time and suggest actions for you. Say you realize it's your doctor calling. You could ask them more questions, dictate a real time reply, or use a preset action like hang up or promise to call back. Can your voicemail do that? I don't think so.

[...] Nowhere is the importance of software exemplified as effectively as it is in Google's imaging algorithms, which are so powerful they helped the Pixel 3 nab the smartphone camera crown in our tests. Not only can the phones capture clear, colorful pictures with just a single rear camera, but the Pixels produced the nicest Portrait mode effects using pure software alone. And with the magical Night Sight mode, Google easily kicked Apple and Samsung's butts in low light photography, turning dark, noisy pictures into shots that look like they were taken in daytime. [...]
Counter-point: DxOMark's Pixel 3 camera score shows AI isn't enough.

75 comments

  1. No by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Google software is a piece of shit.

    1. Re: No by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Pretty much everhwhere where there aren't Google paid "enthuisiasts" astroturfing the consensous is that the Endgaget piece is a total sham. It looks like Tomshardware's has a contender to its "most unlikely to be an unbiased, non company supplied, article" for its glowing article on nVIdia's RTX graphics cards...

      Shillbots gotta shill....

    2. Re: No by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is because they hire shills who speak about product. If they hired better shills you never know what they might say but they do not

    3. Re: No by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh but the notch is kick ass!

    4. Re: No by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Use some less unkind term like unglorious

    5. Re:No by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Agreed. Google employees are a bunch of assholes and the execs should be in jail. I do what I can to stay away from their spyware.

  2. At Google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    YOU are the product.

    1. Re: At Google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Thatâ(TM)s the reason I wouldnâ(TM)t use Android or Windows.

      Not all data is created equal and mine is worth paying an Apple tax to have a privacy advocate in one of the worlds largest companies.

    2. Re: At Google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LOL

    3. Re: At Google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mostly because they're not primarily an advert funded search engine and cloud hosting company but a luxury consumer electronics company. iOS and OSX are just a way for Apple to maintain control of their walled garden. Totally different business models, where customer and brand loyalty mean different things.

  3. Apple the Laggard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I hope some of these Pixel features will shame Apple into action.

    If only Google wasn't such an untrustworthy piece of shit...

  4. Malware by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Android is full of malware. No thanks. Nice ad though.

    1. Re: Malware by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I like talking to real people. I cannot imagine using this feature. I certainly would not pay for it

    2. Re: Malware by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know right, imagine a doctor or something classically busy and time stingy, if they don't get a voicemail tone they aren't going to bother fucking with your personal assistant to leave a damn message. "I guess they die, oh well."

    3. Re: Malware by Cederic · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yeah.

      "Is that Jim?"
      "Hi, this is Jim's personal assistant. How can I help?"
      "I would like to talk to Jim."
      "What would you like to talk to Jim about?"
      "He'll never find out now. But do him a favour, clear his calendar after Wednesday."
      *click*

  5. "our" by sheramil · · Score: 1, Redundant

    "And yet, the Pixel 3s were still one of our favorite phones of the year, and ended up on our best gadgets list.>

    "Our"? Who is he talking to? Where does he get off making claims for "us"? I don't even have a "best gadgets" list.

    1. Re: "our" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Is it really that difficult to understand? It says the article is from Engadget. They are more than a 1 person company (I would home any slashdot terrible would know that by now). Clearly the "our" refers to the group of employees responsible for the Engadget reviews.

    2. Re: "our" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ahhhh! Proofreading fail on my part, but I think the point of my post should at least be obvious enough.

    3. Re:"our" by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      It is an advertisement. So by "us" he means, people that matter. Real humans. Virtuous Citizens.

    4. Re:"our" by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      Given that it was an article written by Engadget staff wrapping up their year, I'd imagine "our" refers to them.

      It's both strange and enlightening that you would assume it was referring to you... Possibly explains why so many people take everything personally.

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  6. Hey Engadget by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

    Why do I get asked to login to your site before I’m given a chance to read the article?

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    1. Re: Hey Engadget by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This advertisement is a double whammy: Google product users, and registered Engadget website readers.

  7. Call Screening: Google Assistant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    The name "Google Assitant" is very pertinent here. It's not your assistant, it's Google's assistant. This means that Google knows (in detail) what someone is calling you about/for. But nobody cares about inviting Google into their life like this any more, do they? I mean it's not like it is the government doing this. Except that the government can subpoena or ortherwise make representation to find all this out and because Google isn't a telecommunications provider, the rules and regulations regarding long term storage, etc, of your data that would apply to your local telco do not apply.

    1. Re: Call Screening: Google Assistant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I made a mistake last year. I bought a Pixel 2. Previously I had Google Nexus 5, which was easy to root, easy to change ROMs (no gapps), and was decent.

      Pixel 2 meant a year long fight with the software. It was a pain in the rear to root originally, and it was so touchy with software removal that it took me rougly 20 reflashes before I got an idea what not to remove from the system (removal of google.app renders pixel 2 unbootable, and it took me a week to neuter the monstrosity). Currently I am running my own build of AOSP, heavilly firewalled and gapp'less, but it took a year to make it as usable as Nexus was within days.

      My next purchase will be Purism Libre 5. I realize that this is exactly what I want from a phone; nothing smart, just usable.

    2. Re: Call Screening: Google Assistant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mod this comment up.

    3. Re: Call Screening: Google Assistant by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 1

      I made a mistake last year. I bought a Pixel 2. Previously I had Google Nexus 5, which was easy to root, easy to change ROMs (no gapps), and was decent.

      Pixel 2 meant a year long fight with the software. It was a pain in the rear to root originally, and it was so touchy with software removal that it took me rougly 20 reflashes before I got an idea what not to remove from the system (removal of google.app renders pixel 2 unbootable, and it took me a week to neuter the monstrosity). Currently I am running my own build of AOSP, heavilly firewalled and gapp'less, but it took a year to make it as usable as Nexus was within days.

      My next purchase will be Purism Libre 5. I realize that this is exactly what I want from a phone; nothing smart, just usable.

      While I admire your doggedness, perhaps some difficulty removing Google software from Google hardware running a Google operating system might not be entirely unexpected.

    4. Re: Call Screening: Google Assistant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Microsoft got sued for the same shit.

  8. Counter-counter point by cloud.pt · · Score: 4, Interesting

    DxOMark is the most obvious paid reviewer website ever. I don't have proof, but man that top 10 can't fool anyone.

    1. Re:Counter-counter point by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      What items on the top 10 list do you disagree with? They are all top notch cameras. Also if they were paid reviews then you should be able to point to issues with their extensive reviews and raw data (you can download the original files).

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    2. Re:Counter-counter point by Ecuador · · Score: 0

      They are all top notch cameras.

      I think their ranking refers to the rear cameras, not the top notch ones. Besides, I hate notches.

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    3. Re:Counter-counter point by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      The DxOMark isn't a paid site. It is however a site for masturbating to raw numbers. If that does it for you then by all means. Personally I prefer to look at photos.

    4. Re:Counter-counter point by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Whoever modded this redundant is being a bit harsh. If I was able to moderate it I'd have done with +1 funny.

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    5. Re: Counter-counter point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sadly, you can't "woosh" the moderators.

  9. Hey msmash : by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    KILL YOURSELF and make the world a better place.

  10. Yawn.... by MeNeXT · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What is impressive of software that doesn't let you do what you want? Seriously. I can't even record my calls. Simple feature that should be easily enabled on my phone. But no. It is disabled by Google software on their hardware. Can we stop giving credit to companies who cant't get the basics right. The software prevents me from using MY phone legally. Google even went out of their way to disable the feature. How can this even be considered great.

    The other day I was just talking and Google assistant jumped in telling me it can't help with my request. There was none made. I'm not impressed I'm bored. I have real tasks to handle on a regular basis where Google software gets in the way.

    If my doctors calls I would much prefer to automatically record the conversation in case I misinterpret his instructions not have a stupid assistant possibly give them the wrong message.

    Not to mention the hardware/software integration is over rated and flaky especially that stupid dongle. I think /. is looking for stories on a slow day.

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    1. Re: Yawn.... by Jeremi · · Score: 1

      Are you certain thatâ(TM)s legal? In many countries it is illegal to record a phone conversation without obtaining the other partyâ(TM)s permission.

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    2. Re: Yawn.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In other places it is legal as long as one party consents. Leave it up to the user to know or even have fun with region locks (win via software).

    3. Re: Yawn.... by Cederic · · Score: 1

      Even ignoring the number of Android users in jurisdictions in which it's perfectly legal, half the phone calls I have these days include an automated system telling me, "This phone call may be recorded."

      So I have their consent anyway.

    4. Re: Yawn.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Proof / source?

  11. Can your voicemail do that? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    of course not, but then my answering machine doesn't spy on me nor does its manufacturer profit from the data gathered or messages left, either.

  12. Chrome OS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My SO has been quietly using her Chrombook for a couple years. Never am I asked to "fix it" or clean-up virus or anything. The damn thing just works. And all along Google has been updateing Chrome OS periodically with new features and improved security. I hadn't looked at her Chromebook in ages but recently I took a peek to see what her DNS settings were. I think I reset them to Cloudlfare 1.1.1.1. Whatever. But while I was poking around I noticed a new setting. It was "Run Linux". Chromeos has quietly added an option to run Linux applications on Chromeos. I was blown away. That is really cool but non-techie. Evidently you just click this optioin in settings. No need for special boot loaders or rooting or anything. Pretty amazing stuff from a corporate monster.

    1. Re:Chrome OS by mermeid007 · · Score: 1

      Why would you need chrome to run linux? The whole point of linux is that you can run it without some other software getting in the way.

    2. Re: Chrome OS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But it blew the OP away. Doesn't that count for something?

  13. Wake me up when... by DidgetMaster · · Score: 4, Informative

    ...their 'Assistant' can detect that it is a scam artist or robo-caller on the line and can try and waste as much of their time as possible. They simply will not go away until it becomes very expensive to find those 'suckers' that P.T. Barnum told us about. If it costs them 10 minutes of a real person's time (even if it is some poor guy in India) every single time they robo-call someone and they get nothing in return (because you were just pretending to look for your 'lost' credit card), then they will eventually stop trying. Call blockers or Do Not Call lists or laws will do nothing to stop them.

    1. Re:Wake me up when... by Harvey+Manfrenjenson · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yes, but then the robocallers will just use their own AI programs-- only connecting you to a live person if and when the AI thinks that it has a live "customer" on the line. (Navient, the loan company, does this already when it calls you about an overdue payment).

      To get past the digital assistant, the robocaller will try to convince the digital assistant it's a real person (and not a robocaller). Likewise, the digital assistant will try to convince the robocaller it's a real person looking for their credit card (and not a digital assistant). It'll be an arms race, in which increasingly sophisticated AI programs administer Turing tests to each other.

    2. Re:Wake me up when... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I'm looking for my credit card . . . "
      "You're just trying to waste my time."
      "No, really!"
      "I'm detecting a 97.17% chance that you are an AI trying waste my time."
      "I'm detecting a 98.24% chance that you are an AI trying to avoid wasting time."
      "Switching to more efficient communication"
      GZEEP. BLORP.

      . . . and all the lights go out. Everywhere.

  14. Like A Runaway Freight Train ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Choo-choo! Dog food that gets pooped out on astroturf is still nothing but shit.

  15. Google needs to be broken up by WCMI92 · · Score: 2

    They have to be. I don't care who does it but it has to be done.

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    1. Re: Google needs to be broken up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not just you

  16. Chrome OS tanked, Pixel 3 didn't sell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The market spoke for us.

    That shit chrome OS/Android mashup was rejected again. Yet again they didn't deliver a proper tablet Android version. Pixel 3 didn't achieve more than modest market share.

    This "winning" you speak of? You're saying Google's AI team fixed up the shit of the other teams and management?

  17. What's the age of the poster? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Software is not what he thinks, it is definitely not a name for this or tha tablet .

  18. Stupid fucking title by DogDude · · Score: 4, Informative

    "How x won y". What a stupid, mindless, clickbait title. It means nothing.

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    1. Re:Stupid fucking title by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      I can haz this year? You not finished yet?

      Can I keep it?

  19. Brain Drain. by wolfheart111 · · Score: 1

    Let folks think freely... Quality of life... ?

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  20. HAHAHAHAHA So google discovered HDR? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No matter what you do a phone's images are going to be fucking shit in low light. HDR isnt a solution at all.

    And if you try to use BOKEHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH in any serious way in an article you are just a fucking wanker. BOKEHHHHHH on a smart phone? HAHAHAHAHAHA get fucked.

  21. Service =/= software by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Call screening is a service, not software. The only software that the article mentions is user interfaces. That is not Google's strong point. If Google "won 2018" in any way, whatever that is supposed to mean, with any feat of software, it would be in the updates to Chrome OS to add more application compatibility.

  22. Re: Nazi Christmas Party by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A happy boxing day my friend! I hope your Christmas was whiter than could be imagined. Looking forward to the New Year and great things for the White Race. A very merry Sieg Heil to you and yours!

  23. Pick up the phone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you don't pick up when I call you, I will stop calling you, and the second I know I'm talking to a machine I hang up. I don't care if you're screening calls the old fashioned way or with the help of an ad-company. No, I will not follow up with a message either. Don't get a phone number if you're not going to answer the phone.

    1. Re:Pick up the phone by sudarshan85 · · Score: 0

      Call screens are for unknown numbers. If I got your phone number, I wouldn't screen your calls, as I would already have your name in my contact list. If I can't answer your call at that time, I'd just hang up the call or let it go to voicemail.

    2. Re:Pick up the phone by omnichad · · Score: 1

      Great. Please stop calling! You finally get it.

  24. Why.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why is this advertisement appearing in my feed? And what happened to slashdot?

  25. Yes but.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the best software in the world canâ(TM)t change the fact that I donâ(TM)t trust Google as far as I can throw them.

    That and they suck at interface design.

  26. Say you realize it's your doctor calling. You could ask them more questions, dictate a real time reply, or use a preset action like hang up or promise to call back. Can your voicemail do that? I don't think so.

    Wait, what?

    So instead of, you know, talking to my doctor's office when they call, I can now listen and watch some weird interface, and then clumsily choose from preset actions in real time, hopefully before they say "WTF?" and hang up on "me"?

    Wow, that's great! Thanks Google!!

    1. Re: huh? by MichaelJ · · Score: 1

      If itâ(TM)s my doctor calling, theyâ(TM)re either speaking directly to me from the start, or leaving me a message to call them. HIPAA isnâ(TM)t going to let them âoecommunicateâ with some kind of wacky software assistant.

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    2. Re: huh? by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 1

      If itâ(TM)s my doctor calling, theyâ(TM)re either speaking directly to me from the start, or leaving me a message to call them. HIPAA isnâ(TM)t going to let them âoecommunicateâ with some kind of wacky software assistant.

      Hmm, I dunno.

      I can (and do) give them permission to leave me sensitive info in a voicemail. And my voicemail is hosted by my telecom provider.

    3. Re: huh? by Voyager529 · · Score: 1

      I can (and do) give them permission to leave me sensitive info in a voicemail. And my voicemail is hosted by my telecom provider.

      Just because they have your consent does not mean that they are actually-allowed to do it. If they have a policy that medical information is not left on voicemail, doesn't mean that the person on the other end is going to risk being in violation of that policy unless you have that consent as a part of your outgoing messge *and* they're recording their outgoing calls, and even then, super-regimented Mona who thrives on following every policy to the T is not going to make an exception for you when she makes the calls.

      ...but even if she was, this isn't about leaving a voicemail, it's about Google's AI assistant being fundamentally incompatible with HIPAA. Even if we believed that Assistant did not store any call data, the fact that the content of the call is being intercepted by a third party and processed by Google for transcription is near impossible to reconcile with HIPAA. Add to that the fact that there's no possible way Google isn't utilizing that data in some way, and it's guaranteed that Assistant and HIPAA can coexist.

    4. Re:huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How does this even work though? The entire concept here doesn't work. How do you "realize it's your doctor calling" when you aren't there? Do you have to design a custom call interface to deal with that doctor, hoping they will call? All of which is nothing more than a specialized IVR call menu.

      "Press 1 if you are my doctor..."

      Sounds like a lot of work and most of the time, it won't pay off. If this is how "Google won 2018", then the bar for winning is too low.

  27. How DogDude just won the internet! by thegarbz · · Score: 1

    "How x won y". What a stupid, mindless, clickbait title. It means nothing.

    Of course it means something. Google won! Not sure what competition they were in, but they won! Woot.

  28. Not worth the loss of privacy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    *nm*

  29. Re: Nazi Christmas Party by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Welcome back you useless piece of shite.

  30. News for nerds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This ain't.

    Keep your comedy posts elsewhere.

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