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Chinese Schools Are Using 'Smart Uniforms' To Track Their Students' Locations (theverge.com)

"It's as dystopian as it sounds," opines The Verge: Chinese schools are now tracking the exact location of their students using chip-equipped "smart uniforms" in order to encourage better attendance rates, according to a report from state-run newspaper The Global Times. Each uniform has two chips in the shoulders which are used to track when and where the students enter or exit the school, with an added dose of facial recognition software at the entrances to make sure that the right student is wearing the right outfit (so you can't just have your friend, say, wear an extra shirt while you go off and play hooky). Try to leave during school hours? An alarm will go off....

There are additional features, too, according to a report from The Epoch Times: the chips can apparently detect when a student has fallen asleep in class, and allow students to make payments (using additional facial or fingerprint recognition to confirm the purchase). The uniforms are being used in 10 schools in China's Guizhou Province region, and apparently have been in use for some time -- according to Lin Zongwu, principal of No. 11 School of Renhuai, over 800 students in his school have been wearing the smart uniforms since 2016.

95 comments

  1. Now THAT... by SuperKendall · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now THAT is what you can truly call -

    SpyWear

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    "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
    1. Re: Now THAT... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Let us hear more about editor David and the pirates of the Caribbean and the missing papers! Should make a great crime novel

    2. Re: Now THAT... by sound+vision · · Score: 1

      I prefer a tuxedo wrapped in an Aston Martin.

    3. Re: Now THAT... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh honey, you really have no idea how to go through life constantly being tracked? They cannot see everything silly! You should see more movies

    4. Re: Now THAT... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Go the wrong place, they take your organs for donation.

    5. Re: Now THAT... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Like how I wear Cheetos in my mom's basement?

  2. No smart uniform needed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No smart uniform needed for a Palo Alto government IT janitor and haiku poem writer to track your kids, film them and make Internet video with them.

  3. Aww honey by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You donâ(TM)t have to do that in Beijing - they take pictures of their clothes for you! Oh no! You must mean something else

    1. Re: Aww honey by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Its editor David again. He must be bored walking around his basement looking for things

    2. Re: Aww honey by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He is singing B-I-N-G-O B-I-N-G-O B-I-N-G-O and bingo was his name O!

  4. Next step is by bobstreo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    mandatory tracking implants.

    No implant? No food, no travel.

    If/when you're detected, you'll probably be detained at a "police" station until you're moved to a nice relocation site under a death sentence.

    1. Re: Next step is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have these for my pet frog I bet there are hundreds or thousands of similar frogs who could benefit

    2. Re:Next step is by KiloByte · · Score: 0

      No implant? No food, no travel.

      Placing the implant on the right hand or the forehead would be a nice touch.

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    3. Re: Next step is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It would but they dont actually understand the technology.

    4. Re:Next step is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nope, the ultimate step is behavioral compliance chips. I.e. A neural transceiver. You won't do anything they don't approve of, because you'll never have the opportunity to think for yourself.

      There are some people who see everyone else as nothing more than disobedient puppets, and strive to drive out their disobedience completely. The ones that are world leaders however are in the unique position to make their desire a reality. The rule of thumb is, if you can think of some ultimate form of depravity, there is at least one more person who has thought of something even more deprived and who will seek to overthrow you should you manage to implement it.

  5. Indoctrinate early. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Monitoring and surveillance is normal, trust your superiors citizen they will protect you."

    1. Re: Indoctrinate early. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They just trying to get a rise out of you with these stories. Amusing that you would provide evidence because you want the clothing so badly. What is worse than federal prison?

  6. A real working slippery slope by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

    Dog collars are next. It's only logical. A mere 'alarm' is no fun. Ain't authoritarianism sexy? Bunch of dirty old men running the government

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    “He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
    1. Re:A real working slippery slope by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Why stop there, shock collars for the win! If you're going to control your populous, you can't stop at half-ass.

    2. Re:A real working slippery slope by gweihir · · Score: 2

      Quite a few of dirty young men and women of all ages like this too. Somebody does enable these "dirty old men", you know.

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      Most ACs are not even worth the keystrokes to insult them. Be generically insulted by this and ignored otherwise.
    3. Re:A real working slippery slope by l0ungeb0y · · Score: 1

      Shock collars? How boring. Explosive Collars like the ones they had in Running Man would be far more entertaining

    4. Re:A real working slippery slope by gtall · · Score: 1

      Do you have these gruesome thoughts on and off, or are you just generally a psychopath?

    5. Re:A real working slippery slope by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

      Yes, I was assuming the electronic kind.

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      “He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
    6. Re:A real working slippery slope by Lehk228 · · Score: 1

      you are the one turning a discussion on children towards sexual fetishes

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      Snowden and Manning are heroes.
    7. Re:A real working slippery slope by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

      That's what authoritarianism is, a fetish.

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      “He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
    8. Re:A real working slippery slope by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In Westworld, the hosts have explosives in their C6 vertebrae. Should they attempt to leave by crossing a border set by Delos, the explosive, well, explodes.

  7. Must've been that one kid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There's always one kid in class who reads 1984 and goes "That sounds cool."

    I guess they all went to China and became politicians.

    1. Re:Must've been that one kid by helpfulcorn · · Score: 1

      North Korea is a lot closer, but China certainly sometimes seems to want to play catch up.

    2. Re:Must've been that one kid by gweihir · · Score: 3, Insightful

      More than one. Apparently about 30% of US citizens find authoritarianism pretty cool if it is presented right to them. Explains a lot. Not that the rest of the world is much better. Dark times.

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    3. Re: Must've been that one kid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      True. They voted for Trump.

      Joking aside, authoritarianism is only good when the population is small and everyone is on a first name basis. Thus most reality shows unfold in predictable manners. When there is a layer of insulation protecting the leader from the consequences of their actions, then those on either side of the insulation can do things with impunity in the name of control.

      Donâ(TM)t like your neighbor? Report them to the authorities, frame them for not being an upstanding citizen. Itâ(TM)s the gulag/deathcamp for them.

    4. Re:Must've been that one kid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Authoritarianism can't do any worse than any of the other government types. Authoritarianism might actually work better with the right Authoritarian running things. Democracy has resulted in a group of incompetents winning the de-facto beauty contests were actual competence and substance never comes into play. The US government is a bastion of the incompetence egged on by a devolving society whose collective IQ decreases in direct proportion to the number pf people joining the collective. The most intelligent and productive citizens never want anything to do with politics. The US government has failed the people. The only thing the Federal government is doing is running non-stop partisan investigations of the past. None of them are actually looking to the future. The Democrats have refused to address any of the real issues that lost them the election. They patently refuse to address their own actions and behavior and instead blame their loss on the Russians and Trump. They have failed to understand that as bad as Trump is he evidently was good enough to beat them. How bad did they really have to be to lose to someone like Trump? Why would anyone want to be governed by people too dumb to beat Trump in the election? They had the money, supporters, organization, and a woman candidate with over 30 years of experience working at various high level positions within the government? If they could not beat Trump with all their advantages why would anyone want these incompetence working in any government position outside sweeping the streets in DC?

      Politicians will support anything as long as their campaign coffers rake in the money. That's the way the system currently works. True believers and competent individuals pushing alternative ideas are pushed aside from within the halls of government. The best thing that could happen to the US would be for the government to shutdown to last a couple of years. Government employees will take a hit but change is never pain free. Other than that the government spending will come to a virtual halt and save billions of dollars every day. The longer the shutdown persists the more people will see that the country can survive just fine without the lifelong politicians and bureaucrats getting in the way. Push 90% of the government down to the state level. The Federal government has usurped powers not granted to them by the Constitution. The first US civil war wasn't about slavery. Slavery was just Lincolns "WMD claims" to rally the Union military. And after the Union got it's collective asses handed to them early on that Lincoln faces a backlash of northerners that did not want to fight and die for slaves. The progressives of the time were all for protecting and freeing slaves until the bodies started arriving back home. The Civil War was about state's rights. It was about northern based industry and manufacturers competing with cheap slave labor used in the south.

    5. Re:Must've been that one kid by gweihir · · Score: 1

      Ah, yes, the myth of the "noble leader". One of the main ways authoritarians justify their deep desire to dominate everybody and to force everybody to live like them. Here is news for you: It is not true. Such leaders do not exist or rather the people that could be such leaders have no desire at all to be leaders. Hence leaders self-select for being non-noble leaders. The thing authoritarianism then adds is a lack of checks and balances.

      In other words: People like you are part of the problem. Sorry.

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    6. Re:Must've been that one kid by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      Well that explains a lot about how so many people voted for Hillary.

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      Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
    7. Re:Must've been that one kid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't be sorry. Democracy is probably designed to select leaders and representatives who can be most effective, and most humble, too; though not necessarily with the most humility. Sometimes, people have only to choose a person who is the least-ineffective and the least-unhumble; simply, because the roster of choices is either poor, or the electorate is uninformed or misinformed. Getting a leader who has the least hunger for power (often mistaken for leadership), and a wish to just make things work right, is hard. A proper and working democracy also has mechanisms to easily and peacefully replace an incompetent leader.

      (Discaimer: I'm not the grandparent poster.)

    8. Re:Must've been that one kid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I meant, that hunger for power is mistaken for leadership.

    9. Re:Must've been that one kid by gweihir · · Score: 1

      Oh, yes. Of course, those with hunger for power learn early that they need to be able to pretend to have leadership qualities.

      So while there certainly are people among us who would be great leaders, even though they would likely have to be forced into it, we have no process identifying them and for keeping that selection process non-corrupted. If we had that, we could finally get good leadership. But we do not. Hence any form of authoritarianism will have somebody or some clique on top that is really bad. And that means the only think working to some degree is a system of checks and balances and limited power for any one individual.

      And a question: Why are you all posting as ACs? Is the fear of the secret police already so great among you? People self-censoring is a very, very bad sign and not even using a pseudonym is self-censorship.

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    10. Re:Must've been that one kid by gx5000 · · Score: 1

      Yes but China has the tech that NK doesn't and the money to push it through.
      Why isn't the West standing up and saying WTF?
      Isn't this the pinnacle of human rights violations?
      Coming to a city near you as soon as they take your money away and force you to use electronic funds.

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      End of Line.
  8. Scary as f*ck ... by Qbertino · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ... the way the Chinese are taking the concept of an orwellian state further to unseen depths on a biweekly basis, is it not?

    Folks we're going to be in some super-bizarre global Cyberpunk society in 2 decades from now if this catches on globally and it ain't going to be half as cool as in a roleplaying game, a Stevenson/Gibson novel or some bladerunner movie sequel - it will just plain suck, big time. I don't want this and neither do you. Talk to you folks about this, we are the opinion leaders when it comes to IT and we need to wake up as many as possible before it's too late.

    My 2 eurocents.

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    We suffer more in our imagination than in reality. - Seneca
    1. Re:Scary as f*ck ... by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I guess this is like 1984 as seen from the Eastasian point of view... except it’s really happening.

      Man, this is scary stuff.

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      #DeleteChrome
    2. Re: Scary as f*ck ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ha ill let someone who cares about these sorry losers more than I and who has nastier attitude than I start working on them. LOL indeed. Kissy kiss!

    3. Re:Scary as f*ck ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      ... the way the Chinese are taking the concept of an orwellian state further to unseen depths on a biweekly basis, is it not?

      Don't kid yourself that this is only in China, although yes it is scary as fuck.

      RFID tags in clothing has been a thing for roughly a decade now.
      https://rfid4u.com/rfid-for-uniform-and-laundry-tracking/

      The UK has done it
      https://www.engadget.com/2007/10/21/uk-secondary-school-tests-rfid-embedded-uniforms/

      Brazil has done it
      https://www.zdnet.com/article/uniform-computer-chips-track-student-locations/

      India has done it
      http://www.childsafetyindia.com/

      The US has schools that have done it too
      https://www.wired.com/2012/09/rfid-chip-student-monitoring/

      Those are just the ones I remember reading about. I have no doubt plenty of other places are doing it as well.

    4. Re: Scary as f*ck ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's why Cdreimer left /. after 20 years and posted 100+ videos in 2018. His trolls are still butthurt that he left them alone with APK.

      The thing to do for him: post more videos :)

    5. Re:Scary as f*ck ... by AndyKron · · Score: 1

      It's worse because its really happening

    6. Re: Scary as f*ck ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And the next logical step is to tell US citizens we are falling behind the Chinese school systems and we need to adopt their practices to maintain an even playing field.

      Think of the children!

    7. Re:Scary as f*ck ... by renegade600 · · Score: 3, Informative

      but it is already happening globally to some extent think smartwatches and smartphones. they all have gps tracking. then you have your cars and smart homes.

    8. Re:Scary as f*ck ... by Falos · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I know you're uncomfortable with our forward progress, but you need to think of the

      *shuffles flash cards*

      "Terrorists."

    9. Re:Scary as f*ck ... by fbobraga · · Score: 1

      +1 informative!

      * the parents demanded it in some schools, here in Brazil (it was not an school-only demand: parents demanded more control over his children...) - yes, I think it's scary as f*ck!

    10. Re:Scary as f*ck ... by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      When kids are at school, you want them to be tracked. Kids have been tracked and monitored at school for decades.

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      "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
    11. Re: Scary as f*ck ... by sound+vision · · Score: 1

      I imagine most of the Eastasians reading this already have an RFID tag on their vehicle and a GPS logger in their pocket, that they don't turn off when they get out of class.

      Some of them may operate with the idea that these troves of data can exist indefinitely with none of the parties involved ever tempted to use or sell it... I'm not sure what gave them that impression.

      The impression that I get is that Eastasia's constitution could use an Information Age Bill of Rights; an amendment enshrining the right to privacy would provide a bedrock legal justification for the necessary regulations. Because as of now, their laws don't even attempt to address the problem.

    12. Re:Scary as f*ck ... by rogoshen1 · · Score: 1

      the next time you hear about the US playing world police, remember articles like this one. it will be so, so much worse if the chinese supplant the US as the global super power.

    13. Re: Scary as f*ck ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What the hell makes this scary? I have to wear a badge at work all the time. If work provided uniforms, then it'd be a hell of a lot more convenient to just have the badge sewn into it. Kids lose shit all the time, so using this as an alternative to a badge on a lanyard or clip just makes sense.
      Oh no, they can tell who is coming in and leaving the school, the horror! Call me when China makes this mandatory for all clothing worn by everyone, everywhere, then it'll be "dystopian."

    14. Re:Scary as f*ck ... by Solandri · · Score: 3, Insightful

      There's a huge difference between "can do something you couldn't do before, but it requires you to have a tracking device" and "are no longer allowed to do something you used to be able to do freely before, unless you have tracking devices."

      The former is an expansion of your choices. You can eschew the new options if you don't like them, like I refuse to use Facebook.

      The latter is a reduction of your choices and freedom.

    15. Re:Scary as f*ck ... by gtall · · Score: 2

      No it won't. Chinese society will explode sooner or later and the bureaucrats running the asylum will be first up against the wall. They have an example to work from.

    16. Re:Scary as f*ck ... by markdavis · · Score: 2

      >"When kids are at school, you want them to be tracked. Kids have been tracked and monitored at school for decades."

      There is a difference between taking attendance and tracking every moment of a child. Watching if they are awake. Watching who they associate with. Watching everywhere they go. Oh, and "watching" also means "storing for future reference." Where does the tracking end? What is next?

      This is bad for anyone but perhaps especially harmful for children- if they grow up thinking they are always being watched by people not there, it will be extremely difficult for them to develop a healthy psyche, "unwatched" morals, a reasonable expectation of "safety", or even any type of free or independent thought/expression. Coupled with a non-free and repressive government, it is just scary as f*** as this thread implies.

    17. Re:Scary as f*ck ... by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      Where does the tracking end?

      As soon as they leave school (the sensor area), or put the RFID chip in aluminum. These chips don't have a very long range.

      What is next?

      Now this is a slippery slope fallacy. Just because schools use RFID in uniforms doesn't mean you're going to be implanted with RFID.

      This is bad for anyone but perhaps especially harmful for children- if they grow up thinking they are always being watched by people not there,

      You already think you're always being watched by people not there. This is not "Always being watched" it's "being tracked at school."

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      "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
    18. Re: Scary as f*ck ... by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

      toll tags only tack places that have readers and on cars that have an tag

    19. Re:Scary as f*ck ... by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      The Communist party has always tracked its education system.
      Uniforms are part of that Communist culture.
      Then who got into the mil, who was politically trusted to travel to the West.
      The Social Credit System https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
      Now the Communists want to know where all their trusted people are.

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      Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
    20. Re:Scary as f*ck ... by Brett+Buck · · Score: 0

      If you consider universal government tracking "progress", you are the single dumbest person on the internet.

    21. Re: Scary as f*ck ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lol, as if the laws of a country ever prevented a madman from attempting to enact his deranged grand scheme..... Laws can be corrupted and even when they work they only prescribe remittance. Assuming the madman is caught that is.

      The thing that prevents crimes is a strong moral and ethical sense within an individual that says doing X is wrong, and that there are other ways to address their issues. Of course in modern times, we throw morals and ethics out the window the second someone dangles a cent in front of us, and encourage others to do the same. Greed is the all important virtue and Pride is the ultimate form of worth. Temptation is always indulged, and Self-Importance is enshrined as a God.

      And you think some sentence, written on a piece of toilet paper, and signed by some asswipe is going to prevent someone from attaining power or money? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! What an idiot you are. You don't even realize the reason you and yours lost the war.

    22. Re:Scary as f*ck ... by gweihir · · Score: 2

      ... the way the Chinese are taking the concept of an orwellian state further to unseen depths on a biweekly basis, is it not?

      Others are doing it as well. Read the Snowden stuff for examples. The only difference is that the Chinese are doing it openly. In some twisted sense that makes it more honorable. The world is really going to hell.

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    23. Re: Scary as f*ck ... by GrahamJ · · Score: 1

      While I mostly agree, is not having a phone really a choice today? Soon you won't be able to buy a car that doesn't have its own connection. We have choices today, but they are disappearing fast.

    24. Re:Scary as f*ck ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you didn't catch the sarcasm there, you're even dumber ...

    25. Re:Scary as f*ck ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You've gotten the same stuff with Trump. Look at all the small kids dying in the custody of CBD and ICE.

  9. Re:dirty asians by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Apparently, you've never smelled the Santa Clara County whale otherwise you wouldn't complain.

  10. Another example of Late Stage Capitalism ruining-- by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ---oh, shit.

  11. Onward and inward by Frank+Burly · · Score: 1

    I can't help but think that China is creating a guaranteed market for applied AI with their surveillance state the same way the U.S. created a guaranteed market for all sorts of supporting technologies during the cold war.

    The result of this will be lots of innovation not just in the AI itself, but in the hardware, and theoretical space as well.

    Plus China's AI will be working against people who don't want their Social Credit (or whatever) diminished. In the U.S., AI will be working to figure out when you are most receptive to an ad for Tide Pods. So their incentives are greater and their problems will be more demanding.

    I'm not sure how liberal Western democracies (or ordinary Chinese citizens) can win.

    1. Re:Onward and inward by Aristos+Mazer · · Score: 1

      That's always been a concern of mine: that the Orwellian model is more economically viable and therefore will out-compete the individualist model. If one country goes down the road of being sufficiently in control of its people that it has a literal command economy to go after any niche it needs to go after, it's hard to see how the reactive model of US/Western capitalism competes.

    2. Re:Onward and inward by ChatHuant · · Score: 1

      the Orwellian model is more economically viable and therefore will out-compete the individualist model

      I very much doubt that's the case, for any normal definition of "viable" - at least for the long term. The centralized nature of an authoritarian economy is advantageous for single large scale pharaonic projects, where a lot of resources can be focused on some goal, with no concern about costs. This is how Russia managed to get the hydrogen bomb so quickly, and how they launched the first satellite and sent the first man in space. But in an Orwellian economy there is no incentive to improve efficiency. The Orwellian state's goal is to maintain the status quo. As an inefficient economy reduces the standard of living of the people, the Orwellian state compensates by lying about it (see the passage in 1984 about Winston's chocolate ratio being "raised"), repressing complaints, and especially keeping ideological purity. War is often a choice, since it helps channel the population's anger outwards, it provides potential material gains from conquered territories and allows the state to suspend peacetime laws and mechanisms that control it. For a real life example, see all the former Communist countries; none of them could compete in productivity with the Western developed economies, even if some, like Russia, had lots of natural resources.

      China is the same; they have managed to grow a lot over the last decades, by basically waging a relentless economic war on the West - plundering their know-how and inventions, using very asymmetrical tariffs and laws, using state intervention to help strategic companies in strategic areas of the economy, and ignoring international laws and regulations that disadvantaged them. But now this model is becoming unstable, because the rest of the world is starting to push back, and because, as Chinese people get better informed about the rest of the world, they're becoming unsatisfied with the status quo. The Chinese state reacts by becoming more and more Orwellian: thoughtcrime is a pretext to filter the information coming into China (see how Google is forbidden there); Big Brother tracks people via RFID and face recognition; thought police enforces conformity (for example, via social credit).

      I don't think any of that will work longer term; my worry is that the Chinese state may emulate Oceania and resort to war as a means to keep the population under control.

    3. Re:Onward and inward by Lehk228 · · Score: 1

      I think you underestimate the good guys, wait and see news will filter out slowly on how Chinese resistance groups subvert tracking tech the important thing is to observe and learn so when they try the same thing here, we'll be ready and we'll have the benefit of experience of those who hit the front lines before we did

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      Snowden and Manning are heroes.
    4. Re:Onward and inward by Aristos+Mazer · · Score: 1

      What if the technology goes beyond what is imagined in 1984 and allows the state to operate without needing to lie? Suppose they admit, "Life is shitty. Suck it up," and the populace still cannot rebel no matter how unsatisfied they become with the status quo? There's a concept of a "water empire" that is basically impossible to rebel against. I worry that China can use technology to make a similar system work ubiquitously. Obviously, no way to test my hypothesis, but it's something to think about.

    5. Re:Onward and inward by prisoner-of-enigma · · Score: 1

      the populace still cannot rebel no matter how unsatisfied they become with the status quo

      The ruled will always outnumber those who rule. An oppressive, controlling, authoritarian regime can only survive as long as it takes the ruled to realize they have nothing to lose by overthrowing the regime.

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      In the end they will lay their freedom at our feet and say to us, Make us your slaves, but feed us. - Fyodor Dostoyevsky
    6. Re:Onward and inward by Aristos+Mazer · · Score: 1

      Historically, true. Does that necessarily have to be the case going forward? As tech increases the ability of one person to control power, do we reach a tipping point where rebellion becomes impossible? For example, one person could command a fleet of drones to hold a whole population hostage. That's a big departure from any historical model.

  12. Alternate headline by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Chinese schools embed electronic tracking bracelets in uniforms.

  13. This will happen in the west too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Western companies are just as eager to build these things, and sell them for 'safety' or 'self improvement'.

    Social Cooling is becoming a real possibility.

  14. It's not that creepy. by SuricouRaven · · Score: 3, Informative

    I work at a perfectly ordinary school in the UK. We issue all students with chips - in the form of identity cards. These cards contain a photo of the student and a simple RFID chip. They serve as passes to open doors, as identifiers for paying for lunch, as their library card, and for identifying themselves to the printer-copiers. They are also supposed to be an essential part of our safeguarding procedures, because without these cards any teenager could wander in and pose as one of our students - though in practice this doesn't work so well, because students are constantly losing, forgetting or defacing their cards. The girls in particular often hold the view that their photo is the ugliest thing ever taken, and will scratch it off of their badge rather than allow anyone to glimpse their shameful image. Students also routinely body-slam the doors to force the magnetic locks open, or loiter outside waiting for someone else to come through, because they left their badge at home or lost it. Issuing RDIF badges is a very common practice - schools have been doing it for years.

    So some schools in China put the ID chips into the uniform. It's the obvious next step: An identifier that, hopefully, the horrible creatures won't lose or destroy within a week.

    The only thing we don't use the cards for is attendance. Too easy to defraud - if we did that then any student could bunk off for the day and just lend their badge to a friend to beep them in. I suppose facial or fingerprint recognition could fix that, if you can get it working reliably.

    1. Re:It's not that creepy. by renegade600 · · Score: 1

      at least those RFID cards don't have gps tracking as the chinese uniforms supposedly have.

    2. Re:It's not that creepy. by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      I doubt the uniforms really have GPS tracking. Simple issue of battery life and cost. More likely it's just a long-range RFID tag, and a bunch of readers dotted around the school that pick up every time a student passes by. Explains why they aren't tracked outside of school.

    3. Re:It's not that creepy. by SuperDre · · Score: 1

      And that's exactly how they 'fix' that problem, there is also a camera with facial recognition, so if the face doesn't match the uniform all bells go off.. (but I wonder if you can get out of a window (and later back in)).

  15. intestinator. by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    intestinator.

  16. China does its own thing by shufflingb · · Score: 1

    Their society has rules and if a citizen abides by the rules they progress. If you do not you will be crushed. If you wish to change the rules, then you work within the system to make it happen. In short, state governance operates much like how a company works. Witness the pace of change in China; it can be far more efficient than a multi-party Western democracy.

    Only time will tell if it is a better than a Western democracy. However, it's hard to imagine at the moment that any Westerners, Europeans with their Muslim terrorists and Americans with their mass shootings and the like, are really in any position to lecture the Chinese on dystopian futures.

  17. cheaters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Chinese people are all dirty cheaters anyway so what's the difference if they attend school or not?

  18. Only news because China. by VeryFluffyBunny · · Score: 1

    Famously, Amazon does the same to their warehouse employees. I've also read several articles where creepily detailed RFID tracking has been used on secondary school pupils in the US. Hell, China probably subcontracted or copied the school systems in the US.

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  19. The 1 Child Policy Didn't work. by wolfheart111 · · Score: 0

    Now just make them willing move away... brain drain. :)

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  20. But China is hypercapitalist! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They out-capitalisted the USA a long time ago. Capitalism does not imply freedom, or lack of monopolistic power, you know?
    No freedom and a single all-encompassing power is actually its natural.conclusion!

  21. You mean *from* the US! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Might be Siemens too, you never know. Or a UK firm.

    Most likely, the Chinese just copied.it, like with everything they make.

  22. Slave masters only wished they had it this good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Imagine if Stalin had this! Ohh wait- we have Trump as president even if he's not quite as powerful he'd probably do the same shit and certainly tries to. Not that Hillary would have been any better. I was going to say government schools are literally prisons, but really they are more like concentration camps because while forced and "a building in which people are legally held" against there will it doesn't quite fit the "as a punishment for a crime they have committed or while awaiting trial". However a concentration camp is "a place where large numbers of people, especially political prisoners or members of persecuted minorities, are deliberately imprisoned in a relatively small area". Fits government schools perfectly. Children are a persecuted minority being deliberately imprisoned. We should be abolishing government schools and eliminating laws prohibiting employment of children. We should also eliminate every other government program that purports to "protect" us. Left to my own device I can defend my family just fine.

    This story is disgusting and why I'm opposed to drivers licenses, license plates, social security numbers, taxation, and all the other shit they force upon moral people. We're not suppose to be slaves and I won't be registering my child nor sending them to a government indoctrination program. Particularly not one that tracks them and before you think I'm nuts I moved out of a hellish society like that which is described here. I moved from New Jersey to New Hampshire. When I was in school we had ID cards and they made us wear them. They tried to force drug testing on us and so on. Fuck off. You don't own me. I'm talking to you people who voted for the people implementing this shit. I don't care if you are a democrat or a republican or a green because I darn well know you *ALL* vote in favor of it and the handful of people who aren't in favor of it are migrating to NH cause it's the only chance and place where like-minded freedom respecting people are gather and working to avoid this dystopian future that is already here. Most of the people I know have pulled there kids from government schools if they ever entered them into them in the first place (mostly before they moved to NH) and some haven't even registered there kids with the government (it's an interesting yet legal exercise in healthy defiance to refuse to do so when your utilizing a hospital's services to give birth). I also know people who don't have drivers licenses. Unfortunately many of us do have drivers licenses and licenses plates even if some of us have avoided total compliance via legal trickery of a kind. As an example toll roads in MA which track users via license plates are dependent on other states to cooperate with providing addressing information. This comes through Easy Pass and so states that don't have tolls like Vermont don't cooperate and therefore MA can't bill said Vermont registered vehicles for unpaid tolls which MA never provided an opportunity for users to pay (ie because they took down the toll booths and are attempting to force users via tracking systems to pay using other methods of payment like credit cards or sending bills to registered owners via the license plate which can then be paid via check).

  23. Freedom by GrahamJ · · Score: 1

    Regarding red light cameras I frequently say that if you're automatically caught for any infraction then you are not truly free. I'd say the same here except that in China that's already a given.

  24. pedobear paradise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... its like having your own specialized ordering system just one hack away

  25. It's commie china. What do people expect? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This was always going to happen.

    And will continue until one day it explodes.

  26. Re:TIME TO NUKE CHINA by SuperDre · · Score: 1

    Or the US, as they do just as much pollution, poisons and enviromental destruction with much less people.... So if you're gonna nuke China, also nuke the US..