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NYPD Deploying Drone for First Time To Secure New Year's Party (bloomberg.com)

New York City police will deploy a camera-equipped drone above Times Square, along with new "counter-drone technology" blocking other devices from the area, where they expect as many as 2 million New Year's Eve revelers. From a report: The drone technology is the newest innovation developed by the largest U.S. police department as it prepares for an annual event that already features a broad array of anti-terrorism tactics. They will be used along with police airplanes and helicopters as surveillance tools, said Police Commissioner James O'Neill. Police and federal agents have worked with hotel staffs throughout the area in an effort to prevent an incident similar to the sniper who shot to death 59 outdoor concert-goers from a hotel room high above the Las Vegas strip on Oct. 1, 2017. O'Neill said authorities have no evidence of any credible threat of terrorism for New Year's Eve.

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  1. You can't secure all stupid people. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2018/12/28/man-marries-hologram-anime-character-orig.cnn/video/playlists/around-the-world/ Case in point.

    1. Re:You can't secure all stupid people. by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      Gatebox is the first step toward holographic assistants/companions.

      I just wish Amazon, Apple, Google and Microsoft realized it. A voice alone is not good enough.

      I also hope they'll allow people to customize the avatar of their assistant (both voice, personality and visual appearance) and even work with companies to sell custom avatars (ex: Steam/Valve could sell a GLaDOS avatar, including both the voice and sarcastic personality of the in-game NPC).

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    2. Re:You can't secure all stupid people. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1
    3. Re: You can't secure all stupid people. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apparently the strategy is to treat them like cattle.

      Participants in the celebration will be cordoned off in sections, or pens

    4. Re:You can't secure all stupid people. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's why Cdreimer left /. after 20 years and posted 100+ videos in 2018. His trolls are still butthurt that he left them alone with APK.

      The thing to do for him: post more videos :)

    5. Re: You can't secure all stupid people. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow - that Wikipedia article is an incredibly vicious, hate-filled work of nazi propaganda.

  2. Makes sense, they're cheap. Hopefully a 6-8 prop by raymorris · · Score: 2

    It certainly makes sense to use one, or have one available. The cost is trivial given the scale of the event.

    I'm guessing that they want a bit better camera system than the typical hobby "drone" (quadcopter) has, so their craft may be a larger than the 10 inches / 250mm normally used by hobbiest. If so, I'd hope they use a hexacopter or septicopter. Quadcopters don't do well when a motor or prop fails. That's not really a problem if it's a little plastic toy like the big box stores sell, but a malfunctiin could be rather inconvenient if their drone is much larger and heavier.

  3. Times Square by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Times Square on New Year's Eve has always been a shitshow made for ignorant tourists. Huge crowds, no bathrooms, long lines, pigs in uniform (NYPD) ticketing people for daring to drink alcohol. Go to a local bar, to to the Central Park run, throw a party in your apartment and annoy the prissy neighbors, take a flight to a civilized city that's not so uptight about people having fun in public.

    1. Re:Times Square by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Went to Times Square to see the ball drop a couple of years ago. One of the bigger mistakes in my life. Went three hours ahead of time. Police locked us in to a 50x50 square. If you leave for any reason you cannot re-enter. Very cold, no place to sit. No bathrooms. Worse of all, when the ball dropped only about 10% of the people square in the corner could actually see it.

    2. Re:Times Square by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1, Insightful

      What's wrong with being a tourist? Is it some kind of crime? Why do New Yorkers take so much pleasure in looking down on people who have come to see their city? You'd think it would be a great compliment.

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    3. Re:Times Square by OzPeter · · Score: 3

      What's wrong with being a tourist? Is it some kind of crime? Why do New Yorkers take so much pleasure in looking down on people who have come to see their city? You'd think it would be a great compliment.

      The OP wasn't saying that being a tourist is bad, but that the Times Square ball drop is an event where tourists think the'll have a great time when in general it is a bad experience.

      Not having been there I have no experience, but then again I don't fancy enjoying new years eve with 1 million of my new closest friends.

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    4. Re:Times Square by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      throw a party in your apartment and annoy the prissy neighbors

      Prissy? Is that what you call people who like to sleep? Fuck you, you fucking fuck.

    5. Re:Times Square by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      Score: +1000 Common sense.

      Fuck parties, especially in apartments.

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    6. Re:Times Square by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 1

      Nothing. There's everything wrong with being an IGNORANT tourist, duped into waiting around for a silly ball to drop while not being able to even take a piss. I'm frankly ashamed for my city and the idiots policing it.

    7. Re:Times Square by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Party every night! Fuck everyone else!

    8. Re: Times Square by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What a party that is.

      It's amazing that things have come to this point. I am sure that plenty of police officers have good intentions in choosing that life, lifestyle, life path, however you might want to call it. To take on that position comes with a conscious decision to hold authority over others, and that is pretty serious.

      A lot of military folk I know, young and old, get outright jazzed about machine technology. I do too, for a lot of the same reasons as they. The capabilities of our tools are enthralling.

      The "machine for use against people" psychological element, found in the psyche of wielding of a gun or controlling a weapon of any sort, is something that is normalized in our culture. That sometimes one person needs to kill another person is a normalized concept in many cultures.

      Grand Theft Auto... My first girlfriend's eight year old brother had whatever that handheld Playstation console was... Playing some GTA on it. Guess what, the kid was violent. Not like "we need to do something about this" violent, but like "man, this kid is obsessed with physical violence and enforcement." When you have an eight year old declaring authority over his mother while demanding something, and gesturing of violence... How will that later manifest? I mean come on. GTA was fun, I loved the hell out of it. And I love projectile target practice myself for that satisfaction. It's like bowling ffs. But my sister's husband's boy is like this too. I get it, and I work with him, even though it's hard to be around. "No sorry dude, I don't want to bash Bey Blades around for a half hour and be complicit in you assuming my approval of your mentality about it." We have responsibilities.

      My bro-in-law, little dude's dad, is in the army. And although he does not joke around about violence, his kiddo is exposed to the concepts of military and war through games like Call of Duty, and there being an enemy against whom the use of physical and fatal violence is acceptable is complexly imbued.

      He has lashed out physically at school. Young parents often enough aren't thinking about these kinds of things... important things like "should I expose my young child to violence" or "should I exemplify to my child that violence is normal and sometimes necessary?" What will the effects of this be, etc. Being a parent when you're 20 or being married to one when you're 23 does not necessarily imbue one with those "let's take a step back for a minute here" considerations. That comes with temperance in relationships, more than anything (as per my own experience). It's not easy to be a young parent by surprise, so it is only conceivable (no pun intended) that they might not be taking all the time in the world to think about these things.

      So my point circles back to how plenty of people, including myself, can enjoy these spatially-able renderings of modern technology. "The kid just wants the coolest guns" one might say. Here we are as a society. Surely well-intentioned police are enjoying this technology like one would enjoy their first time operating a dirtbike or a fast car. But man, this predation and "kill the bad guy" stuff... It's a tough question, how do we resolve this. Who puts the gun down first of two people hold a gun to each other's head?

      Big question. Anyways that's my ten cents.

      Happy new year... not to be confused with "New Year."

    9. Re: Times Square by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 2

      I'm pretty sure plenty of outright evil people thought they were doing good. This doesn't excuse their actions.

    10. Re:Times Square by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fuck you. If you want quiet, move to Montana.

      Sociopath. If you want noise, throw yourself into a wood chipper.

    11. Re:Times Square by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What do you mean there’s no bathrooms? NYC is a giant shithole. Just pop a squat wherever you want.

    12. Re:Times Square by Powercntrl · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Times Square on New Year's Eve has always been a shitshow made for ignorant tourists.

      I honestly had no idea, but yeah, after reading this, it's definitely off my bucket list. Quote from the local NY ABC news:

      Officers will also install over 200 cement blocks in addition to more permanent metal bollards in and around Times Square.

      More than 50 canine teams will survey the crowds on alert for explosive material.

      These teams will include the newly added German Shepherds and Malinoises.

      For the first time, the NYPD will deploy its new fleet of drones to keep watch over the festivities.

      Those attending the festivities will face multiple screening points. Certain items are prohibited, including backpacks, large bags, umbrellas, and alcohol.

      Property may not be left checkpoints. At approximately 11 a.m., attendees will be directed by police officers to gather in separate viewing pens. As the pens get populated, the entertainment from 43rd Street between Sixth and Eighth Avenues will continue to move north up to Central Park, due to the ball drop from the southern end. Please note, attendees who leave before the ball drops will not be able to regain entry to their original viewing area.

      Dear God, that is some serious dystopian shit right there. You'll be sniffed by dogs, herded into holding pens, and watched by drones. You can't even celebrate the new year with a glass of champagne. Damn it New York, the movie Demolition Man wasn't supposed to be a how-to guide.

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    13. Re:Times Square by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      The ceremony is world-famous, and being a part of it makes a lot of people happy. Ignorant people wouldn't even be aware of it. So you hate the tourists and you hate your own people too? Sounds like you're just a hate-filled misanthrope who nobody should listen to.

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    14. Re:Times Square by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 0

      Cops aren't "my own people". In fact, most American cops are barely human in my book.

    15. Re:Times Square by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Score: +1000 Common sense.

      Fuck parties, especially in apartments.

      If you choose to live in an Apartment, then part of the "deal" is having to put up with other people living in close proximity to you. On a normal night, I would sympathize with people making noise after the posted "quiet hours." But on New Years Eve you ought to expect it, it's a night which is celebrated literally around the world by people of all cultures, religions, and nationalities.
      Suck it up, snowflake.

    16. Re:Times Square by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jeezuz, they should just shuffle everyone off at the end of the night straight into the Soylent Green factory.

    17. Re: Times Square by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And I do agree with that!

    18. Re:Times Square by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We used to watch the ball drop every year on TV. It's been horrible the past several years, one year they talked over the midnight countdown instead of actually counting down. New Years is overrated anyway.

    19. Re:Times Square by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you choose to live in an Apartment

      You think it is a choice? You're a fucking rich asshole with no ability to reason why people live the way they live.

    20. Re: Times Square by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes - living in an apartment in New York City absolutely is a choice. If you can afford to live in New Jack, you can afford to live almost anywhere else in the world.

    21. Re: Times Square by astrofurter · · Score: 1

      This totalitarian dystopia has gone too far. It's time to de-Stalinize America.

    22. Re:Times Square by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      (bomb goes off / high-speed lorry attack on pedestrians)
      "waaaaah! why dosent they protected us? so unfair!"

      (bomb doesn't go off / concrete blocks silently deters lorry attack)
      "wwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaah! my rights been vileated! total 1984!"

      You lazy fucking simpleton.
      (captcha: vomited)

    23. Re:Times Square by stooo · · Score: 1

      >> What's wrong with being a tourist?
      Tourist = Terrorist.

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    24. Re: Times Square by stooo · · Score: 1

      You've been trumped.

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    25. Re:Times Square by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      That was pretty good. Made me chuckle.

    26. Re: Times Square by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Orange man BAD!!!1!!

    27. Re: Times Square by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who said anything about apartments *in New York city*? You think people can't be loud obnoxious assholes anywhere else in the world?

    28. Re:Times Square by Daralantan · · Score: 1
      I've watched the event the past 2 times with my fiancé and her comment is always: "I don't know how those people can get there 20 hours in advance and then never go to he bathroom just to stay in the front row."

      Ridiculous.

    29. Re:Times Square by Daralantan · · Score: 1

      Damn it New York, the movie Demolition Man wasn't supposed to be a how-to guide.

      Except for the part where Taco Bell becomes the only restaurant.

    30. Re:Times Square by dcw3 · · Score: 1

      NYC isn't alone in this. I visited London ~30 years ago, and our taxi driver refused to take us to Trafalgar (thankfully), but we were young and didn't know better. It was easy to be an ignorant tourist before the internet was commonly available.

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    31. Re:Times Square by dcw3 · · Score: 1

      Ah, see now you're just a clown.

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    32. Re: Times Square by dcw3 · · Score: 1

      Hard to be "trumped" in a city controlled by the left.

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    33. Re: Times Square by stooo · · Score: 1

      You've been left to be trumped.

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  4. Half-Life is now Real-Life by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Those drones in the game Half-Life gave me the shivers whenever I could hear them approaching. Now we've got the real thing in real life. Great. Where's Freeman when you need him?

    1. Re:Half-Life is now Real-Life by beavhd · · Score: 0

      FORGET ABOUT FREEMAN remix

    2. Re:Half-Life is now Real-Life by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      You don't need Freeman. You only need this.

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  5. Re:Makes sense, they're cheap. Hopefully a 6-8 pro by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Honestly, with Dumberican cops being what they are, if it fails while being launched and falls into a crowd of cops, I'd consider it no great loss.

  6. Re:Makes sense, they're cheap. Hopefully a 6-8 pro by AndrewFlagg · · Score: 2

    wait! what? that $1000 device falls from the sky, hits a few spectators on the head, lawsuit 1-2 million. yep, well worth the money spent. good planning.

  7. Not me by AndyKron · · Score: 1

    "You will see a lot of officers with a lot of gear and long guns,” said O’Neill." Fuck that party!

  8. Numbers a tad off, but still that's why 6-8 by raymorris · · Score: 2

    > that $1000 device falls from the sky, hits a few spectators on the head, lawsuit 1-2 million.

    The $1,000-$2,000 are just a few ounces of plastic, so not a huge deal if it fell on you. Not *desirable*, you don't *want* to drop it on your head, but I'd rather that than a baseball. If you stick your fingers in the prop at full throttle, it hurts pretty bad for several minutes. Guess how I learned that.

    However, as I said, I'm guessing NYPD may use one a bit larger, not the popular $1,000-$2,000 ones like the DJ Mavic or Phantom. If they go larger, say a $10,000 device, I hope they use one with more than four props because you definitely don't want a larger device falling if one motor / ESC fails. An octocopter can fly around with a couple of motors dead.

    1. Re:Numbers a tad off, but still that's why 6-8 by Powercntrl · · Score: 1

      However, as I said, I'm guessing NYPD may use one a bit larger, not the popular $1,000-$2,000 ones like the DJ Mavic or Phantom.

      This article claims the drone will be operated away from crowds and tethered to a building. Essentially, they could've accomplished the same thing with a camera on a pole, but methinks NYPD is just anxious to play with their new toys.

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  9. What? by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

    New York City police will deploy a camera-equipped drone above Times Square.

    Only one drone? There's probably going to be more people in Times Square than the population of my small town. One drone will not be enough. How about a dozen ED-209?

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    1. Re:What? by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      Re "One drone will not be enough"
      All that is needed as what was the Domain Awareness System https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... is getting every face and every license plate.
      The drone is just another product. Everything and everyone in and out of NY is already getting tracked.
      The US gov is just happy to sit on the information collected for now to keep up the politics of a virtue signalling as a sanctuary city.
      When needed the city has everyones moments over time, from face, gait, voice prints, computer use, to license plate.
      Into and out of all surrounding parts of the USA too. Data collection does not stop out of NY once NY becomes interested in a person, license plate.

      The drone is the easy way to "sell" the massive intelligence collection in and around NY.
      The "drone" "moved" into place to notice something in real time is better than exposing networks of informants and years of digital collection doing parallel construction.

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  10. Whatever you do, don't go to Times Square by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I went to Times Square for NYE.

    It was *AWFUL*.

    There were a bunch of police literally on every block corner, pedestian movement for several blocks from the square was controlled by police and people were fed into holding pens which were staggered up from the Square.

    I can understand crowd control given how many people there are. I also saw that the entire area was dead of joy and mirth. Having a dozen cops on every corner, sometimes yelling instructions about what you can or can't do, checking backpacks, it kinda totally and utterly kills any atmosphere of fun deader than a coffin nail.

    It was god-awful. You couldn't get anywhere near the square, and no-one, *no-one*, was having fun.

    But hey, we were all safe. We were safe *anyway*, because in fact there *was* no one going to do anything crazy, but what else can the police do? they're there to police, they have to be seen to be policing, and then there's no point in being there.

    I went down to Central Park. The run was there, plenty of people, not a single cop. It was *nice*.

    1. Re:Whatever you do, don't go to Times Square by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 5, Interesting

      What could the cops do? Nothing. NYC would be better off if 50% of its police didn't show up to work and didn't enforce anything but violent crimes. There was a time where the NYPD went on "strike" and stopped issuing tickets for "quality of life" and "traffic" offenses. Know what happened? Nothing. Violent crime actually went DOWN that month.

      Overpolicing in the US is the problem, not the solution.

    2. Re:Whatever you do, don't go to Times Square by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Violent crime, or violent crime that was reported to the police?

    3. Re:Whatever you do, don't go to Times Square by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 1

      We were safe *anyway*, because in fact there *was* no one going to do anything crazy

      Wait, what? It's not like Times Square didn't have a bomb planted in it 8 years ago, or there haven't been three bombings in NYC (thankfully with few fatalities) in the past two years. It seems like a high profile target, so I totally get bomb dogs.

      And you understand the need for crowd control. Yes, it seems miserable, because "move around in pens as directed by police" isn't my idea of fun. But it's hard to imagine an alternative that doesn't just lose control.

      It would be nice if they could allow people to drink, but you know that would lead to fistfights as everyone bumps into each other, because no way can the cops enforce a "one glass at midnight" rule.

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    4. Re:Whatever you do, don't go to Times Square by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 1

      There is an alternative to penning people in like cattle -- leave the entire area open and only control entry and exit. Same deal as paid concerts in Central Park or similar events.

      As far as people wanting to bomb us -- wouldn't it be cheaper to just give the "terrorists" what they want? Is constant meddling in the Middle East really worth our freedom within the US? Sometimes, isolationism is really the best option...

    5. Re:Whatever you do, don't go to Times Square by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 1

      Penning may work for a concert, but it's unclear that works for time square. It has a higher person density, etc. And there are other considerations.

      As for just withdraw from the middle east, three main issues. First, there is a value in being a global power. Second, who's to say that terrorist are complaining about military involvement in the middle east (e..g. 9/11 was to a very large degree about doing global business in Muslim nations). Third, and most importantly, the majority of terrorist attacks (including the most recent ones in NY, Vegas, etc.) are committed by white Christian conservative males. Not much to do with the middle east at all.

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    6. Re:Whatever you do, don't go to Times Square by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 1

      Mass shootings are sufficiently rare that they're not worth inconveniencing anyone to protect against. Besides, this bullshit started in the 90s, long before they were a major worry. Over the long term, restrictions on buying guns should be increased to 1990s levels, but for now, non-response is the best response. Sometimes, QUALITY of life is more important than perfect safety.

      As far as being a global power, there's no value in it if it makes us less safe and makes government more intrusive in our own country. Far better to be a second-tier country which is free internally than one that has to compromise internal freedom for the ability to meddle in places abroad where it's not wanted. If having more internal freedom means not doing business with Muslim nations at all, that's OK too.

      I hope that Trump's withdrawal from Afghanistan and Syria is a good first step to a policy of isolationism. Sometimes, the best way to win is not to play at all.

    7. Re:Whatever you do, don't go to Times Square by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 1

      I never mentioned mass shootings. We're discussing terrorists with bombs. Those incidents usually have a white Christian conservative guy behind them.

      As for being a global power, we just happen to disagree. Having military bases throughout the world gives the US the ability to enforce it's will, which makes us safer. Recall 9/11 happened because we allowed the Taliban to exist and fund bin Laden. And he was upset because of global trade. And if we don't stop China's aggression, you (or your children) will be living under rules coming from Beijing.

      But if you wan to live in a second tier country, feel free to move to Canada. Just stop trying to make my country suck more.

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    8. Re:Whatever you do, don't go to Times Square by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 1

      As far as domestic terrorism, the solution is not to be stinking cowards and just accept some level of danger. There were many more domestic terrorist incidents in the 1960s through 80s (remember the Weather Underground), yet no one turned a fun night into a police state because of it.

      Authoritarian apologists like you are the ones making America suck since 9/11. 9/11 didn't happen because we "allowed the Taliban to exist." First of all, we gave them a haven in the first place by meddling in Afghanistan in the 1980s. We should have let the Soviets have the place, not funded Islamic fundie assholes.

      Secondly, the Taliban was successful in gaining support because there were a lot of people angry at US meddling in the Middle East. It was also funded by the Saudis, whose state was under US protection. We created the monster through our continuous meddling!

      As far as living under rules from Beijing, the US (or at least the Americas) can exist as an autarky, and we have enough nuclear weapons to discourage a Chinese invasion of the Americas. So, meddling or no meddling, it's very unlikely that the Chinese could dictate terms to us.

    9. Re:Whatever you do, don't go to Times Square by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 1

      And kudos to Trump for finally pulling us out of Afghanistan and Syria. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day... The same to Congress for putting their collective feet down on the US/Saudi war crimes spree in Yemen. I hope that 2019 ushers in a new era of military restraint in the US, where the US minds its own business in exchange for being left alone.

    10. Re:Whatever you do, don't go to Times Square by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 1

      I agree with accepting some degree of danger. But you of course are strawmaning. I also think that Times Square for NYE is an opt-in situation, with a high population density. I'm fine with different levels of acceptance for different people and situations. I'm fine with metal detectors and xrays in airports, to enter stadiums, etc.

      I think breaking up the Soviet Union was a good thing, and the war in Afghanistan was a big part of it. And, I think we should have been in Afghanistan before 9/11. Religious fundamentalists running nations isn't great/

      You then betray a misunderstanding of the difference between the Taliban and al Queda, a misunderstanding of al Queda's stated strategic goals (withdraw from the middle east was the easiest of their demands which also involved undoing global commerce), and a misunderstanding of what caused the development there.

      Lastly, you talked about the Chinese as though they need to invade. They don't. Soft power is a thing. The US has a lot of it because we're active in the world. In a vaccuum, the Chinese will rise. Yuo think Google/MS/Apple/FB is bad now? Wait until the world slowly falls under the control of the Chinese alternatives. Because they will reinforce their power whenever they can. So, want to do business? Install QQ instead of WhatsApp. How long can the US economy stand isolated? They're already buying key properties throughout Asia and Africa to start stationing their forward operating bases.

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    11. Re:Whatever you do, don't go to Times Square by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 1

      The problem is with "opt-in" is that it tends to spread like a disease. First it was airports, now it's stadiums, tomorrow it will be supermarkets, train stations, and shopping malls (as is already the case in pestholes like Israel). How long before we can't live life normally without some mouthbreathing security guard pawing through our personal stuff and violating our privacy several times a day?

      As far as the Soviet Union, it wasn't our fucking problem, and it likely would have broken up anyway plus or minus a few years. Regarding Afghanistan, WE created the problem with the religious fundies by helping them against the Soviets. Afghanistan would have NOT fallen under fundie control if we had let the Russians take it over.

      China? Let them take over Asia, let them have Africa. Not worth our money to stop them. The Americas can stand on their own just fine under the Monroe Doctrine. As far as installing QQ, that's no big deal -- just keep whatever Chinese crap is needed isolated on a separate device or virtual machine...

  11. Good. Target all the Stinkdus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And shoot them with the most painful toxins we have.

  12. 2 mio is wrong by Reaper9889 · · Score: 1

    Unless the people are stacked on top of each other at a depth of 10 it will not reach 2 mio. Heck, they can only reach 120,000 if everybody is standing shoulder to shoulder and front to back.

    Source:http://time.com/5490304/crowd-times-square-new-years/

  13. Re:nazi propaganda faggot RAY MORRIS caught dead! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So now anyone who may have expressed a belief in what you label as "fake news" gets stalked and attacked by you?
    I can't tell if you're just a pathetic loser or if your job is to muddy the waters by making people that accuse other people of believing fake news to appear unstable.
    We really are in the information warfare age.

  14. Re:nazi propaganda faggot RAY MORRIS caught dead! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Great thing about dumbfucks on the internet? They let you know they are dumbfucks.

    'Sup dumbfuck?

  15. Say hi to Alexandria by raymorris · · Score: 1

    Say hi to Ocasio-Cortez for me at your next hate rally.

    1. Re:Say hi to Alexandria by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 1

      One of the few decent humans in US politics today. (And at least spell her name correctly, guy.)

    2. Re:Say hi to Alexandria by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      Why does it not surprise me to find out you're a far leftist who dehumanizes anyone who disagrees with zis thoughts? That's how you people murdered so many in the 20th century.

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    3. Re:Say hi to Alexandria by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 1

      I'm closer to an anarchist than a Soviet-style authoritarian, actually.

  16. CLOAK OF ANARCHY BY LARRY NIVEN by quenda · · Score: 1

    Square in the middle of what used to be the San Diego Freeway, I leaned back against a huge, twisted oak. The old bark was rough and powdery against my bare back. There was dark green shade shot with tight parallel beams of white gold. Long grass tickled my legs.

    Forty yards away across a wide strip of lawn was a clump of elms, and a small grandmotherly woman sitting on a green towel. She looked like she'd grown there. A stalk of grass protruded between her teeth. I felt we were kindred spirits, and once when I caught her eye I wiggled a forefinger at her, and she waved back.

    In a minute now I'd have to be getting up, Jill was meeting me at the Wiltshire exits in half an hour. But I'd started walking at the Sunset Boulevard ramps, and I was tired. A minute more...

    It was a good place to watch the world rotate.

    A good day for it, too. No clouds at all. On this hot blue summer afternoon, King's Free Park was as crowded as it ever gets.

    Someone at police headquarters had expected that. Twice the usual number of copseyes floated overhead, waiting. Gold dots against blue, basketball-sized, twelve feet up. Each with a television eye and a sonic stunner, each a hookup to police headquarters, they were there to enforce the law of the park.

    No violence. ...

    http://www.larryniven.net/stor...

    1. Re:CLOAK OF ANARCHY BY LARRY NIVEN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cool story.

  17. 58 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Las_Vegas_shooting

  18. BS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    First time my ass. Anyone can tell you that police have been using drones in NYC for events and POIs for a while now. Just because they are in some other branch of police force than the NYPD doesn't make them any less of a "New York police force" that is utilizing drones.

  19. too much crowd control by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The NYPD ruined New Years in Times Square by devoting almost the entire area to crowd control. It's just the set for the TV broadcast now, with lanes kept clear for emergency services far larger than the preposterous holding pens. Some tour groups make deals with the city to get their badge holders through the police lines to the nightclubs. Same thing happens with the 4th of July. Emergency service areas are larger than viewing areas.

  20. Re:Makes sense, they're cheap. Hopefully a 6-8 pro by stooo · · Score: 1

    Fly a big drone over 2 million people.
    A heck of a good idea.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
    Decapitation of some random people, anyone ?

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  21. "good" or "bad" drone? by supernova00 · · Score: 1

    So by them nkw using drones, how will anyone know if it's a "good" or "bad" drone? Now anyone can fly drones above the crowd for whatever reasons.

    1. Re: "good" or "bad" drone? by supernova00 · · Score: 1

      At least when the cops were flying them they knew there wouldn't be any in the sky. Now no one will know who's is who's

  22. It hurts for about 5-10 minutes. RC boat USS Reaga by raymorris · · Score: 1

    The military has the Reaper and Predator, aircraft that are commonly called "drones". Toys R Us used to sell the very popular DJI Phantom, an rc quadcopter often used for filming, which also commonly called a "drone".

    People don't often confuse a toy store RC boat with a US Navy warship (both "boats"), yet for some reason they do confuse toy store quadcopters (drones) with military hardware or something equally dangerous.

    I have grabbed a hobby / filming style drone out of the air by putting my fingers right in the prop. It hurt pretty bad for a few minutes. Not as bad as a few weeks later when I shut my front door on my fingers, though. The door definitely did more damage then the drone did.

  23. whipslash leave cdreimer be... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Whipslash/Logan Abbott: Stop being SUCH a "Rubber Willy" (lol, i.e. DILDO), ok? You're pissed @ cdreimer for shitting on /. & perhaps RIGHTFULLY so (on BOTH your parts) - but look @ the guy: He has issues imo - he doesn't need YOU compounding them! I feel cdreimer even "took shots" @ ME in that video but I don't bug him about it - again, he has problems enough.

    & of course "but, But, BUT '/. doesn't delete posts'"?

    BS - I've got you recorded in doing 100's vs. me literally in screenshots (never mind those of others you did as well) - I was only warning folks of issues in Spectrum "bricks", deceiving things too (logons to NOTHING exist in them but then they do NOT ROUTE PACKETS like dual connect (or more) routers do).

    Which yes I did MORE research w/ SPECTRUM personnel (after a modem I was told I would get had its ORDER CANCELLED & not by ME but by their POLICIES that leave users exposed).

    I am MORE CONVINCED THAN EVER along w/ their personnel that they are sacrificing short-term profits vs. users' safety - but then, that's the "arbitrary cost" involved + "moral relativism" isn't it?

    Just like YOU as a webmaster? BOTH sides = CONVINCED they're 'right' - profit is "our fidiciary duty" to our shareholders (& OURSELVES as profiteers too, of course & "BONUSES")!

    As I am vs. Mb ... & ALL those LIKE them, in advertisers (BIGGEST "spammers" of all yet YOU CALL ME THAT? Hypocrisy abounds!)

    Please: Unlike YOU? No 'crass motivations' here as I absolutely KNOW I'm doing the RIGHT thing, the ABSOLUTE GOOD protecting even advertisers (who yes, use hosts to prototype their machinations as do many a webmaster)).

    APK

    P.S.=> Grow up BOY - You can DELETE ALL DAY? I can REPOST ALL DAMN DAY overriding you (you already KNOW this) - but our "2 yr. anniversary" of ME quoting YOU saying you can "STOP ME" (an impossibility as everyone knows, only thing that stops ME, is ME, not you)?? It's going to happen - only thing is, I haven't decided YET how I'll do it (Marcus Allen/Jonathan "rollerball" https://www.youtube.com/watch?... since that's how you TRIED & FAILED to "do me") OR via "Rubber Willy" & the old 'glam-band' SWEET & "Little Willy" https://www.youtube.com/watch?... (lol, in YOUR CASE? RUBBER WILLY, lol)... apk

  24. Re: Makes sense, they're cheap. Hopefully a 6-8 pr by irreverentdiscourse · · Score: 1

    Decapitated? Seriously?

  25. Celebrate the PRESS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Celebrate the press by not allowing the press to use their equipment, good idea.