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Stop Adding Cancer-Causing Chemicals To Bacon, Experts Tell Meat Industry (theguardian.com)

The reputation of the meat industry will sink to that of big tobacco unless it removes cancer-causing chemicals from processed products such as bacon and ham, a coalition of experts and politicians in UK warn this week. From a report: Led by Professor Chris Elliott, the food scientist who ran the UK government's investigation into the horse-meat scandal, and Dr Aseem Malhotra, a cardiologist, the coalition claims there is a "consensus of scientific opinion" that the nitrites used to cure meats produce carcinogens called nitrosamines when ingested. It says there is evidence that consumption of processed meats containing these chemicals results in 6,600 bowel cancer cases every year in the UK -- four times the fatalities on British roads -- and is campaigning for the issue to be taken as seriously as sugar levels in food.

"Government action to remove nitrites from processed meats should not be far away," Malhotra said. "Nor can a day of reckoning for those who dispute the incontrovertible facts. The meat industry must act fast, act now -- or be condemned to a similar reputational blow to that dealt to tobacco." [...] In a statement issued today, the coalition warns "that not enough is being done to raise awareness of nitrites in our processed meat and their health risks, in stark contrast to warnings regularly issued regarding sugar and fattening foods."

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  1. Illiterate Republican stops reading at the truth? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    "Big tobacco" refers to a large cartel that pushed a dangerous carcinogenic product knowing it was super-addictive and cultivating that all while lying about it and putting out a campaign of disinformation for decades.

    You're a coward hiding from a very common phrase, for whatever purpose of distracting bullshit you exist for these days Kohath. "Big Tobacco" exists, so dry your little eyes about it being referenced, snowflake.

  2. Re:Did something change? by larryjoe · · Score: 4, Informative

    IS there any alternative to nitrates/ites? My understanding is the alternative to nitrates is botulism.

    From Wikipedia: "While meat-preservation processes like curing were mainly developed in order to prevent disease and to increase food security, the advent of modern preservation methods mean that in most developed countries today curing is instead mainly practised for its cultural value and desirable impact on the texture and taste of food. For lesser-developed countries, curing remains a key process in the production, transport and availability of meat."

    Curing in the developed world is not needed for safe food. It is used purely for taste and aesthetics. Of course, this is obvious. The same cuts of meat are commonly eaten in non-cured forms (either with artificial nitrate of celery-based nitrate) with no fears of botulism or other illnesses.

    The big question is whether people are willing to eat gray hot dogs. Maybe we can swap out the nitrates with red food coloring ...

  3. Re:Got It Backwards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    notorious for using intestines as casings for sausages

    WHAT?? Notorious? For using a casing that's been used ever since sausage was invented? This is the kind of scare mongering that makes people ignore anything else attached.

  4. Re:Got It Backwards by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 4, Informative

    You do realize that real intestines are significantly more expensive to obtain and fill than artificial casings, and only premium sausage products are packaged in them? (The same goes for condoms, BTW).

    I don't really understand people who get squeamish about eating any animal organ other than muscle tissue. What makes intestines any more disgusting than muscles?

  5. *slowly raises hand* by magusxxx · · Score: 4, Informative

    "What about making bacon in the microwave?"

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/p...

    Yeah, I went there. ;)

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  6. Re:No real evidence by jma05 · · Score: 5, Informative

    GMO activists aren't telling you that nitrites cause cancer, the scientists are.
    Show me a scientific body that says nitrites are safe, not some health magazine or a "nutritionist".
    The link isn't new and the concerns haven't abated at all.
    There are always studies that go both ways in everything. An average Joe isn't equipped to weigh the evidence and understand the scientific consensus.
    The industry also frequently tries to muddy the waters saying that the evidence is a wash.

  7. Re:No real evidence by Deef · · Score: 5, Informative

    There's no real evidence that nitrate cause cancer, if anything it's useful to prevent foodborn illness like botulism.
    Most studies that link nitrate to cancer have been disproved by other studies.

    A number of consensus studies recently, such as those cited in the paper that the article is about, claim that there IS substantial evidence that nitrates cause cancer.

    What is your evidence for your claim that "There's no real evidence that nitrate causes cancer."? Are you an expert in the field?

    It appears to me that the experts claiming that there IS evidence have so far provided substantially more evidence for their point of view than you have.

    Saying there's "no real evidence" sounds a lot like the No true scotsman fallacy.

    Disregarding the consensus view of experts in a scientific field is something that should be done with great caution, and preferably with strong evidence of some kind, not just skepticism.

  8. Re:As an Islamic country... by serviscope_minor · · Score: 4, Informative

    I'm not surprised the UK would begin attacking pork products. It was only a matter of time.

    Well this as insightful shows how incredibly partisan and riht wing idiocy dominated this site has become. This whole "UK is islamic" is a weird fantasy of some segments of the American right wing, and seems poplar on Fox.

    It is simply, utterly flat-out false.

    Naturally I will be modded down for pointing this out.

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  9. Re:As an Islamic country... by Bearhouse · · Score: 4, Informative

    Not sure if you're going for "flamebait" or "idiot" mod. points, but of all Western European and North American countries, England (but not the UK) is probably the worst example of a (potential) Islamic country, since it's the only one where Christianity is the state religion and the ruling head of state (monarch in the case of the England) is also the head of the church. Sometimes overlooked is the fact that the CofE is also head of the Anglican church worldwide, rather like the Pope for the Catholics.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    Contrast this to France, where the (republication) state expressly forbids alignment of state with religion, or even expressions / symbols of faith in public life, (a ban frequently flouted by all side, admittedly). Note that the % people declared practising Islam in both countries is a very scary.....5% In the USA of course, the danger is even more acute ;)

    France : 51% Christians, 5.6% Islam
    England : 59% Christians, 5% Islam
    USA: 74% Christians, 0.8% Islam

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
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  10. Re:I think the study came out last April by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 4, Informative

    You also learned that ascorbic acid will bind up most of it in the stomach too, then. Which is why most meat manufacturers add Vitamin C to their products.

    But that makes for a boring headline in The DaIly Anecdote.

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  11. Re: Illiterate Republican stops reading at the tru by omnichad · · Score: 4, Informative

    Uncured, by law (in the US), is cured meat with a natural source of nitrate or nitrite. Food producers are required to call it "uncured" even if they believe it's misleading and inaccurate.