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Severn Bridge, a Main Route Between England and Wales, Shuts as Drone Flown From Tower (bbc.com)

A main route between England and Wales was closed after a man climbed a bridge and flew a drone from the top. An anonymous reader shares a report: Traffic was stopped on the M48 -- the older of two Severn crossings -- because of "concern for welfare," police said. The man, in his 20s, came down voluntarily from the 47m (154ft) bridge tower and was arrested on suspicion of causing a public nuisance. Highways England said it was deeply concerned and that "a person has put their life at serious risk". "The incident was quickly spotted on our security cameras and reported to police and thankfully there was no injury or worse on this occasion," it said. "Appropriate security is in place on the bridge, we are liaising with Avon and Somerset Police and will be undertaking investigations to determine if any damage was caused during the incident." Police said: "Officers attended the M48 Severn Bridge at 08:10 this morning after concerns were raised for a man who appeared to have climbed one of the towers and was flying a drone off it."

162 comments

  1. It's a shame... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...the dumbass didn't fall off....

    1. Re:It's a shame... by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 2

      Damn helpful cops and safety laws to protect stupid people.
      They're the reason we don't have nearly enough Darwin Prizes.

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    2. Re:It's a shame... by SirAstral · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      flame bait... there are plenty of pro 2nd amendment democrats that hate Trump and supported it long before Trump was even born.

      You are just trying to make up garbage to divide people even further with your "intolerance".

    3. Re:It's a shame... by l0ungeb0y · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Aside from the fact that "2nd Amendment Democrats" also know and respect the rest of the Constitution. Where the MAGA-heads regard the rest of it as worthless shit and wonder why the hell we can't just live in an authoritarian paradise like they do in Russia, China or North Korea, you know where you do what you're told "or else". And if you think I'm joking or making shit up, just refer to the sentiment of "dissent is treason" and "free press is the enemy of America" that constantly comes from the right and is a view shared by most if not all MAGA hat wearing cretins

    4. Re:It's a shame... by PopeRatzo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      flame bait... there are plenty of pro 2nd amendment democrats that hate Trump and supported it long before Trump was even born.

      Yes, but they're not shooting their dicks off in the meat section of an Arizona Wal-Mart.

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    5. Re:It's a shame... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ammosexuals with very small dicks.
      FTFY

    6. Re: It's a shame... by tigersha · · Score: 1

      Ammosexual. On the first day of the new year I learned a cool new word! Thanks!

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    7. Re: It's a shame... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Benjamin Franklin should have gotten a Darwin prize. Maybe he was just inventing something new. We only know part of the story. So, why be so judgement ðY

    8. Re: It's a shame... by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

      If there are traitorous things, sure.

      If not, it was a colossal abuse by one political faction to use the gearwork of government to harm a political enemy, which is a sad thing, just like it was for Bill Clinton.

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    9. Re:It's a shame... by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      You are just trying to make up garbage to divide people even further with your "intolerance".

      Are you trying to imply that PopeRatzo can't have any dairy products?

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    10. Re:It's a shame... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, they're just shooting themselves in the leg while demonstrating gun safety in a classroom.

  2. American cops... by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    American cops would have probably shot him off the tower to keep him from committing suicide.

    1. Re:American cops... by 110010001000 · · Score: 1

      I have no problem with that. Idiots and their Instagram/Youtube drone videos.

    2. Re:American cops... by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 0

      Why not embrace the ethos of the hacker and prankster rather than being a grouchy old authoritarian?

    3. Re:American cops... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Fucking up traffic for hundreds of people isn't hacking and it isn't a prank. It's just being a dick and causing problems because you can.

    4. Re: American cops... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey buddy!
      Yeah jack!
      Ya think I can hit him just right in the arm so he makes kind of a spiral while he falls?
      Iâ(TM)ll give ya a dollar if you do it!

    5. Re:American cops... by 110010001000 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Flying a drone isn't hacking. It is consumerism at its worst.

    6. Re:American cops... by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Traffic was only fucked up because the cops chose to stop it -- if he was ignored and allowed to do his thing, traffic wouldn't have been affected much.

    7. Re:American cops... by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 1

      Why is it worse than launching a model airplane or model balloon as a prank?

    8. Re:American cops... by 110010001000 · · Score: 0

      Because you just take it out of a box and put batteries in it and use it to create Youtube videos for revenue. Consumerist BS.

    9. Re:American cops... by hdyoung · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Philosophically I support that ethos.

      But only to a point. Nice to meet you, idealism. I'd like to introduce you to my friend, reality.

      Huge numbers of people rely on public infrastructure. There are rules that govern how people behave in public spaces, since the actions of one person can have a bad effect on large numbers of others. An irresponsible drone operator on a bridge could easily crash a quadcopter into a car, leading to a chain of accidents that could result in death. This guy clearly needed to be arrested and slapped with a fine large enough to deter him from doing it again.

      Make public rules too loose, and the result is chaos that renders expensive infrastructure useless. Make public rules too tight, and you restrict personal freedoms of movement and expression. Yes, there is a sweet spot in the middle. No, we haven't quite found it yet for drone operation. Using a public bridge like a personal jungle gym, however, is firmly in "idiot" territory.

    10. Re:American cops... by Spamalope · · Score: 1

      This! Exactly how is a quad copter going to damage a bridge?

    11. Re:American cops... by jwhyche · · Score: 2, Interesting

      A few years ago this wouldn't have been a problem. Police would have just waited him out and arrested him for being stupid. But with the increasing body count from the followers of a certain religion you can't be that way any more. They police where not acting on the drone, they where acting on the fool flying the drone.

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    12. Re:American cops... by 110010001000 · · Score: 1

      It isn't, but the idiots who climb it might have done something. Youtube is full of hipsters climbing that bridge.

    13. Re:American cops... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unless he had fallen down and landed on a car. That would be bad.
      But it's pretty typical for "bat, bat muh rights-people" like yourself to only think of the perp and not the rights of other people, like the right not to be bombed with some idiot falling down from a tower where he had no business being.

    14. Re:American cops... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except your typical commuter would look up, see the man, and call the cops thinking he is trying to commit suicide, which would tie up the emergency call center that would otherwise be used elsewhere.

      If the commuter is also a driver, that would be causing distracted driving as well, regardless of how little time he/she looked up.

    15. Re:American cops... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Quite the opposite - deaths due to terrorism by christians has gone down significantly over the last few decades. As have killed the greatest numbers by an order of magnitude or two in the UK, I'll presume that's the certain religion you're talking about.

      https://researchbriefings.parl...

    16. Re: American cops... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If they were really clever, it looks like there is just enough room between the drone and the camera for cleverly placed bullet. Wouldnâ(TM)t that make a nice video?

    17. Re:American cops... by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 3, Insightful

      But with the increasing body count from the followers of a certain religion you can't be that way any more.

      When it comes to terrorism, backpacks are a far bigger risk than drones.

      They police where not acting on the drone, they where acting on the fool flying the drone.

      Crime rates have declined dramatically since the 1990s, for reasons that have nothing to do with "policing", yet today we have more police than ever. So they have to fabricate and exaggerate "crimes" to justify the inflated cost of over-policing.

      Come election day, when you receive a mailer that says a candidate is endorsed by the police chief, you should vote for the other guy.

    18. Re:American cops... by supremebob · · Score: 1

      They probably would have just shot down the drone, anyway, and then gave the drone pilot a fine for flying it in an unauthorized area if they were feeling extra mean.

      It's still better than shutting down traffic on a major interstate and creating a headline news story about it, anyway.

    19. Re:American cops... by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      the result is chaos that renders expensive infrastructure useless.

      That is what happened in this case ... except it was the actions of the police, not the drone operator, that caused the problem.

    20. Re:American cops... by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 1

      Certain PARANOIA about followers of a certain religion, rather. The number of actual terrorist attacks has been so low as to be a minor issue.

    21. Re: American cops... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are living in a retarded world where people hate each other and want to stay indoors instead of congregate.
      In your case the problem is with mixing different races. Your nature screams "I hate them", but your society keeps pushing narrative of tolerance, which benefits only corporations, not people.

    22. Re:American cops... by NewtonsLaw · · Score: 1

      "When it comes to terrorism, backpacks are a far bigger risk than dornes"

      Absolutely true. In fact, pressure cookers are a far bigger risk than recreational drone flying (3 dead, hundreds injured by pressure-cooker bombs in the Boston Marathon attack) -- so why is it that in most countries, people owning drones weighing more than 250g have to be registered yet people owning pressure cookers don't?

      This incident, plus the Gatwick one shows that the hysteria over "dangerous drones" has reached unacceptable and ridiculous proportions.

      How many young children have died from suffocation as a result of plastic bags? (answer: a lot more than one).

      How many people have been killed by manned aircraft crashing into populated areas? (answer, a double-digit number every year).

      How many people have died as a result of domesticated dog attacks? (answer, far more than you might realise)

      And here's the really important question:

      How many people have died as a result of recreational multirotor drone use? Answer: A BIG FAT ZERO!

      That's right, despite all the claims that these things are dangerous, that these things will bring down airliners, that these things will result in needless deaths... NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON has been killed as a result of recreational multirotor drone operation ANYWHERE in the world, EVER.

      Firstly they said that if a drone collides with a plane, people will die. Then, after several documented instances of collisions between drones and planes -- without even an injury to show for it, they said "Ah, but if a drone collides with a HELICOPTER, *then* people will undoubtedly die.

      After the collision with a military helicopter over NY harbour where nobody was injured and the helicopter landed safely they said "Ah, but if a drone strikes a helicopter's tail rotor -- *then* people will die".

      After a drone struck an MD500 helicopter's tail-rotor at the Baha races and the craft landed safely without injuries they said "Ah, but if a drone strikes an airliner, *then* people will die".

      Do you see the way this is playing out?

      But let's look at the science instead of the hysteria (not that the media nor the regulators seem interested in doing so).

      As reported by ArsTechnica, one university crunched the numbers some time ago and came to the conclusion that drones are a lot safer than we're being led to believe.

      Who are you going to believe -- academics who've done the science or a bunch of hysterical know-nothings in the media who simply want to sell papers or accumulate clicks on web-pages?

      I love how this scientific paper has been completely ignored -- in favour of predictions by parties (such as unions of commercial pilots, who stand to lose their jobs if/when drones take over).

      But not all pilots believe that drones are the devil's spawn. Check out what Captain Chris Mano, a veteran 737 pilot for a major US carrier has to say in his blog about the issue of drone risk to airliners.

      I'm sorry but I get really peeved when I see the mainstream media blowing the true risks (as proven by the passage of time and in complete contradiction to the predictions of death and disaster by the ignorant or those parties with their own agendas) right out of proportion.

      I trust that those who use Slashdot will appreciate the reality of the situation and not be suckered into believing that recreational drone use is a major threat to public safety -- as the media would have us believe.

    23. Re:American cops... by SirAstral · · Score: 1, Troll

      It is a shame that people are not able to fundamentally grasp that the government is in the wrong here. No wonder government constantly oversteps its bounds, people are just so used to letting police overreact to every little thing.

      Many places have had to write laws to stop police from automatically starting a grand chase if a person they are chasing is not shown to be an immediate & serious risk to everyone around them. Instead get the plate and track them down later. Too many times police will unnecessarily escalate situations complicating matters in ways that just are not necessary to resolve the problem.

      The person that made the call to stop traffic should have been reprimanded and be forced to teach a class on what he did wrong around the country and how it should have been handled instead.

    24. Re:American cops... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A few years ago this wouldn't have been a problem. Police would have just waited him out and arrested him for being stupid. But with the increasing body count from the followers of a certain religion you can't be that way any more. They police where not acting on the drone, they where acting on the fool flying the drone.

      How does the body count caused by the Catholic church have anything to do with it? Was the man Catholic? Oh wait, were you referring to a different religion? One that didn't contribute to the systemic and institutionalized persecution of millions of innocent Jews and Arabics for the past 1000 years? Seriously though, I hate Islam as much as the next Trump supporter but that is because of the way they treat their own women and children. What they are doing to the west was brought on by us sticking our noses where they never belonged. Not fair to blame all of the towel heads for it.

    25. Re: American cops... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Being a dick and causing problems just because you can is an accurate description of British Foreign Policy for the last 300 years.

    26. Re:American cops... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1, Troll

      Nothing to do with terrorism. They have been doing this for years every time some kid starts throwing stuff off motorway bridges.

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    27. Re:American cops... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you feel the same way about school shootings? It's a pretty low number after all, not much in the grand scheme of things.

    28. Re:American cops... by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 1

      Yes. I think the hysteria is overblown -- I don't think that schools should be turned into secure fortresses because of a few incidents.

    29. Re:American cops... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well the IRA did like to set off bombs, however suicide bombing wasn't their style. Rattle me off a list of all those Christian faith suicide bombers again...

    30. Re:American cops... by CanadianMacFan · · Score: 2

      The article doesn't say how the person was flying the drone but it is possible to fly it so that it pops in front of someone's windshield causing them to make an unexpected motion such as slamming on the brakes or swerving into another lane. Just think of how people behave when a bird flies too close to the car.

      The article doesn't say what type of drone was being used so we don't know if it was a small one under 250 grams like you assume. It could have been a larger one with a camera attached. Maybe he wanted to video/photograph the bridge to build a model replica and did it in the dumbest way possible.

      Or maybe he was trying to have "fun" like the idiots who stand on a highway overpass and throw rocks at the cars below. The article just doesn't give us enough details to make any judgements. But there are idiots out there that don't think when using drones.

    31. Re: American cops... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whole lot of words to just say: I love drones and please do not take my toys way!!

    32. Re:American cops... by hdyoung · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'm gonna be bit harsh in my response - This is a standard logic fail and people on this site should know better by now.

      When the cops chase a speeder and cause an accidental death, people decide that cop chases are the root of all traffic accidents. This only makes sense if you ignore the fact that speeders cause tons of death themselves.

      When an ultra-rare adverse immunization event causes a death, people conclude immunizations are evil. Forget the fact that immunization has been absolutely proven to save more lives than..... well, pretty much anything else, with the exception of perhaps antibiotics.

      Seat belts occasionally decapitate someone, so some idiots conclude that seat belts are fascism. Seat belts actually save tons of lives? Irrelevant! One guy died from them and that makes people mad.

      Some teenage monkey with social media on the brain and wwwwwaaayyyy too much testosterone in his veins climbs a public bridge and launches a drone. The cops close the bridge in order to deal with it safely. Your conclusion - cops are bad! Possibility he might fall? Drop something onto a car below? Gawkers create a multicar pile-up in the middle of the bridge? Cops or safety workers might get hit by a car while dealing with the situation? Nah, all irrelevant. Most people don't like being told what to do and everyone has seen a Youtube video of some guy being abused by a cop! Screw The Man!

      We're not islands. We live in large social groups. We're governed by a complex, evolving, imperfect set of rules that allow *most* of us to get along *most* of the time. Occasionally the rules are arbitrary or just plain wrong and lead to stupidity. When that happens, people need to call out the flaws in the rules so they can be modified. Cops aren't perfect, and authorities sometimes make bad calls. The cops probably called this one right. Hard truth: occasionally your freedom to do whatever the hell you want, whenever the hell you want, gets curtailed in order to keep you from putting 150 people around you in danger. That's what happened here. Boo hoo.

    33. Re: American cops... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm still hoping that someone kills you in the slowest and most painful way possible. You deserve nothing less.

    34. Re:American cops... by thomn8r · · Score: 1
      An irresponsible drone operator on a bridge could easily crash a quadcopter into a car, leading to a chain of accidents that could result in death.

      How is that any different than on a [street|highway|parkinglot|freeway|interstate|tunnel|parkway|train|etc]?

    35. Re: American cops... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Traffic was not fucked up. There are two bridges for precisely this reason: close one bridge and traffic is automatically diverted over the other. It happens all the time for maintenance overnight.

    36. Re:American cops... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It isn't, but you wouldn't be allowed to fly a model aircraft from that location, either.

    37. Re:American cops... by Solandri · · Score: 1

      Make public rules too loose, and the result is chaos that renders expensive infrastructure useless. Make public rules too tight, and you restrict personal freedoms of movement and expression. Yes, there is a sweet spot in the middle.

      What people need to realize is there is no singular sweet spot. No perfect balance which results in the optimal outcome for all cases. Any level of restriction you pick will be too much in some scenarios, not enough in others. So no matter what sweet spot you pick, nay-sayers will always be able to come up with examples where the current spot fails.

      Writing laws based solely on ways the law has failed most recently will just result in the law constantly oscillating back and forth as new incidents pull it one way, then the opposite, over and over. You have to pick a spot, and live with it, accepting that there will always be exceptions where the law fails. If you think it's failing too often, then you can decide to tweak it. But it should never be tweaked in response to just a single outlier incident.

    38. Re:American cops... by jwhyche · · Score: 2

      When it comes to terrorism, backpacks are a far bigger risk than drones

      What was he using the drone for? What if he was using the drone to scout out soft targets to shoot at? Granted, he probably wasn't but you can't be sure. Again, this isn't about the drone. It's about the idiot flying the drone. The drone just just small part of a bigger issue.

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    39. Re:American cops... by hdyoung · · Score: 1

      You're right, of course. I was trying to point out that thing's aren't black-and-white as simply as possible. The idea that there might be even more layers of nuance? Let's be careful not to blow people's minds up too quickly.

    40. Re:American cops... by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Wait are you talking about the person or the cops? Because I honestly can't tell.

    41. Re:American cops... by RockDoctor · · Score: 2

      Actually, traffic was fucked up because this guy was a pedestrian on a vehicle-only road - a "motorway" in EN_GB. It is an offence to be a pedestrian on these roads without authorisation (road workers) or good cause (your vehicle has broken down and you are walking from the breakdown to the nearest emergency phone). (Bicyclists and horse riders / horse-drawn vehicles are also banned.) So the police were doing an operation to detain a criminal and shut down the road for their (perceived) convenience or safety. I believe American police have comparable powers. You'll notice that I haven't mentioned the drone. I've given it all the importance it warrants.

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    42. Re:American cops... by thegarbz · · Score: 2

      It is a shame that people are not able to fundamentally grasp that the government is in the wrong here.

      They would be if it were true. But the reality is that a person had climbed a structure not meant to be climbed and posed a danger to himself and the people underneath it. In what world does closing the bridge until that person is off the structure not seem like the normal response?

      There's nothing wrong with protecting the life of stupid people as well as those they may impact (if he fell). The fact that a drone was involved is clickbait and irrelevant.

      Too many times police will unnecessarily escalate situations complicating matters in ways that just are not necessary to resolve the problem.

      They reduced risk at the cost of a bit of traffic. A textbook case of deescalating an unknown and risky situation. Boo fucking hoo.

    43. Re:American cops... by RockDoctor · · Score: 1, Interesting

      But with the increasing body count from the followers of a certain religion you can't be that way any more.

      That'd be Christianity, would it? Most American terrorism is from rabid redneck Christians attacking people who differ from them in skin-colour, religion, or which bits of their body they rub against other people for fun.

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    44. Re:American cops... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Have you tried *flying* a pressure cooker? They are pretty hard to get off the ground for any long distance.

    45. Re:American cops... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It isn't, but you wouldn't be allowed to fly a model aircraft from that location, either.

      I bet if he'd just climbed up the bridge and started masturbating they'd have close the bridge as well.

      They were probably worried about him falling and landing on a car.

    46. Re:American cops... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is an offence to exceed the speed limit so the police will do an operation to detain a criminal and shut down the road for their perceived convenience or safety.

    47. Re:American cops... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the result is chaos that renders expensive infrastructure useless.

      That is what happened in this case ... except it was the actions of the police, not the drone operator, that caused the problem.

      So you mean that without the actions of the drone pilot, the police would still have shut down the bridge? Or what are you implying? That the police shouldn't take precausions and do what they are supposed to?

      Where I live there used to be a railroad bridge that was the shortest way between two points. Sometimes drunk people took the "shortcut", and the authorities had to shut down train traffic, much to the commuters anger, before they could make sure that whoever was on the bridge wasn't there anymore. Still, they prevented someone from injury or death due to being hit by a train, or worse, made sure that no one had sabotaged infrastructure. Without knowing who was on their bridge and their intentions, you have a protocol to follow that is set up to allow for most contingencies.

      So don't blame the police, blame the idiot that climbed the bridge.

    48. Re:American cops... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is a shame that people are not able to fundamentally grasp that the government is in the wrong here. No wonder government constantly oversteps its bounds, people are just so used to letting police overreact to every little thing.

      It is a shame that people are not able to fundamentally grasp what the "government" is and how their own delusions and paranoia lets them so easily jump to conclusions about "overstepping bounds".

      It is very amusing to see that western people with this kind of world view are overrepresented with one nationality. You must have a shitty government that likes to mess with your lives just for the fun of it. How come you vote that government to stay in place every four years?

    49. Re:American cops... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In the UK, which this thread is about, the stats show that it almost universally has been by Christians. Be they catholics (eg IRA) or protestant (eg UVF) the vast, vast majority of terrorists have been Christians, and the vast majority of victims have been victims of Christians.

      Educate yourself: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    50. Re:American cops... by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Quite the opposite - deaths due to terrorism by christians has gone down significantly over the last few decades.

      Only because the spud-munchers are having a time out - a situation which may well change due that lovely Mr Farage.

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    51. Re:American cops... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When the cops chase a speeder and cause an accidental death, people decide that cop chases are the root of all traffic accidents. This only makes sense if you ignore the fact that speeders cause tons of death themselves.

      Nice bit of hyperbole. Cop chases aren't the root of all traffic accidents, but if a cop can adequately identify a speeder who will not stop and can sufficiently arrest them at a later point without giving chase, then chasing them at that very moment is reckless and irresponsible. If that results in a death, of course the cop should be held partially responsible just as the speeder should, with the speeder deserving more severe punishment.

      When an ultra-rare adverse immunization event causes a death, people conclude immunizations are evil. Forget the fact that immunization has been absolutely proven to save more lives than..... well, pretty much anything else, with the exception of perhaps antibiotics.

      If a person has an ultra-rare adverse immunization event causing death, well that's unfortunately and should do nothing to deter others from being immunized. But if a person has a weakened immune system or there's a family history of adverse effect, we immunize everyone else around them. We don't just blindly force people to be immunized when we realize there may be good reason to not do it for some people.

      Seat belts occasionally decapitate someone, so some idiots conclude that seat belts are fascism. Seat belts actually save tons of lives? Irrelevant! One guy died from them and that makes people mad.

      Seat belts shouldn't decapitate people. The same with air bags. In virtually all cases, the cause was car manufacturers who failed to do adequate testing, car manufacturers who failed to give adequate warning for which seat belts/air bags were designed for which body type or humidity condition, or finally people simply ignoring the very clear warnings and doing stupid things like putting children or babies in the front seat. In each case, the person or persons responsible should be held responsible. In ultra rare cases, seat belts/air bags are less the cause of decapitation and decapitation is more just a side effect of incredibly violent accidents or circumstance of impact for which seat belts/air bags simply can't adequately protect people.

      Some teenage monkey with social media on the brain and wwwwwaaayyyy too much testosterone in his veins climbs a public bridge and launches a drone. The cops close the bridge in order to deal with it safely. Your conclusion - cops are bad! Possibility he might fall? Drop something onto a car below? Gawkers create a multicar pile-up in the middle of the bridge? Cops or safety workers might get hit by a car while dealing with the situation? Nah, all irrelevant. Most people don't like being told what to do and everyone has seen a Youtube video of some guy being abused by a cop! Screw The Man!

      In this case, cops aren't bad but they probably could have closed one side and dealt with it by isolating him, telling him to come down, and destroying his drone if he does anything aggressive with it. If he falls, it's tough shit for him. If he can't be isolated sufficiently on one side, then yes you have to close the bridge. If gawkers cause a multicar pile-up, then charge the gawkers for reckless driving. Cops and safety workers can be reasonably protected either by closing one side or the whole bridge, and them being hit by a car is sadly a fact of life that should be properly dealt with as anywhere else.

      I wouldn't say the cops are bad, and I don't know if the cops made a bad call. I do know 4/5ths of your arguments were bad, though. The last one is something of a toss-up until/if we get more information.

    52. Re:American cops... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We need al lot more Sheriff Taylors, a lost less Dirty Harrys, and a massive demilitarization of police forces.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Taylor_(The_Andy_Griffith_Show)
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirty_Harry
      https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/do-not-resist-and-the-crisis-of-police-militarization

      The ones with the guns (whether cop or civilian) should held to be held to a higher standard, not a lesser.
      The extent and degree to which an officer can be immune from consequences for actions taken as part of official duties needs to be reconsidered.
      WTF?!?!: Cop fired for not shooting armed suicidal suspect https://www.cnn.com/2017/05/11/us/wv-cop-fired-for-not-shooting--lawsuit/index.html

      The police should be respected, not feared.
      Respect must be earned.

    53. Re:American cops... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Interesting... Is the troll mod for suggesting that it might not be Muslim terrorism?

      Is Islamic terror really some kind of blanket that snowflakes cling to to justify their hatred to themselves?

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    54. Re:American cops... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Christians killing Christians. But sand monkeys kill everyone that doesn't agree with their brand barbaric superstition. But what do you expect from a religion founded by a murdering , thief, liar, child molesting pedophile?

    55. Re:American cops... by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      it is possible to fly it so that it pops in front of someone's windshield

      ANYTHING is "possible". It is possible that the bridge will be struck by a meteor next week. So should we close it, you know, just in case?

    56. Re:American cops... by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      What if he was using the drone to scout out soft targets to shoot at?

      Why would he need a drone to do that?

      Again, this isn't about the drone. It's about the idiot flying the drone.

      Actually, it is about the idiotic over-reaction by the police. That is what made this newsworthy.

      The drone just just small part of a bigger issue.

      The bigger issue is that we have way too many police, and they don't have enough real work to do, so they go around manufacturing crises.

    57. Re:American cops... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What dumb fuck modded this fucking moron up. First of all idiot, this is about British, not American. Now then fool, here is a fucking truth. More innocent people are killed by fucking Muslims around that world than all other religions combined. Next fact. Only one religion in the world is actively seeking nuclear weapons to kill as many innocents as possible. Only one barbaric religion teaches the way to heaven is to kill as many unbelievers as possible. Only one religion was founded by a child molesting murdering, thieving pedophile.

      That religion is islam

    58. Re:American cops... by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      When the cops chase a speeder and cause an accidental death, people decide that cop chases are the root of all traffic accidents. This only makes sense if you ignore the fact that speeders cause tons of death themselves.

      Nonsense. Nobody is saying we should just let people speed. But there is also no need for cops to chase offenders at high speed through residential neighborhoods. The proper thing to do is to run the plates, and go arrest the guy while he is watching TV later than evening.

      Same thing with the guy on the bridge. One cop could have waited at the bottom of the tower and arrested him when he descended. There was no need to involve half the police force and inconvenience thousands of people. They only did that to add drama and pat themselves on the back for being "heros".

    59. Re:American cops... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The guy didn't cause the backup. It was the overreaction of the public safety officials. Public safety officials do not care about the public or safety. They do care about creating an atmosphere devoid of adventure and freedom.

      I salute the guy. Everyone dies, but not everyone lives. If he dies, bid him a fond farewell and throw him in a hole. In point of fact the law enforcement officers caused greater danger to more people, by backing up traffic, than one brave sole climbing a bridge could ever do.

    60. Re:American cops... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Interesting... Is the troll mod for suggesting that it might not be Muslim terrorism?

      Don't be silly. Of course that is what it is. You dare to insult or even imply an insult to the lefts favorite barbaric superstition. Just look at how many jump to defend even an implied insult the muslim pedo based cult. But are more than happy to bash christan based superstition.

      Fucking hypocrites the lot of them

    61. Re:American cops... by sheramil · · Score: 1

      the world doesn't need more pranksters, particularly pranksters who think their mission is to wreck other people's lives. consider what the role of the trickster in society was, a thousand years ago, and then ask yourself if we need an entire society of pranksters constantly trying to shock everyone into thinking differently. the role is popular with teenaged boys because wrecking someone else's shit is empowering. it's why there are so many games about being an assassin.

      nobody ever got rich with a video game about being a sewer pipe repairman, but nobody calls an assassin - or a prankster - when their toilet backs up. the first would kill you, and the second would make it worse and then laugh at you.

    62. Re:American cops... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Severn Bridge does have a shared-use path alongside the motorway.

    63. Re:American cops... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No those are just the ones that make it in the news.

      Body count is probably way higher from gang violence regardless of race, however body count us probably evne higher from big mac abuse.

    64. Re:American cops... by Max_W · · Score: 1

      The real reason of this campaign is that drones give too much power in hands of citizen journalists. In some parts of the world the civil drones are banned completely already.

      There are countless cases when a corrupted official with a modest official salary built himself a palace hidden behind a high wall, or a respected businessman pours into a river contaminated waste to gain more profit, and so on and so forth.

      Now all this dirt instead of being well hidden is being filmed and published readily available in HD, or even in 4K, and from recently with the lossless(!) zoom.

      So this technology starts to interfere with the social structure of the society itself. I read that there are still in England the aristocratic lords living in luxury castles placed in vast fenced parks. These people are certainly extremely rich and influential, so adding 2 + 2 we may better understand why all these stories started to happen in the UK.

    65. Re: American cops... by tigersha · · Score: 1

      Concentrated in a small insignificant corner of the country yes. Involved in a localized Civil War. That is not the same. They mostly killed each other and did not often kill random civilians outside of the area in which they lived. Well not much anyway.

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    66. Re: American cops... by tigersha · · Score: 1

      Sounds much like the hysteria about nuclear plants. Question: how many people died because of Fukushima? Answer: Zero. None. Zip

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    67. Re:American cops... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh well fucking done. Have a virtue gold star.

      Alternatively stop trying to do "whataboutery" any time a particular religion is mentioned. It's still shit and medieval.

    68. Re: American cops... by tigersha · · Score: 1

      Well, since you are on the subject of child molesting pedophiles... the catholics have a bad score in that department. It is really a little ethically dubious to judge Mohammed on his behaviour according to the cultural norms in the 5th century. The west was not any better at the time.

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    69. Re:American cops... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Boy you are ignorant. Read the news. It's all about Catholics plowing their trucks into busy streets. Hindus blowing themselves up. Yazidis decapitating Muslims. Buddhists denying Shiites their fate. Right? Or is it the other way around: everywhere Islam is introduced, society becomes violent.

    70. Re: American cops... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Involved in a localized Civil War. That is not the same.

      Yeah, totally different situation than say, Syria.

    71. Re: American cops... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yawn

    72. Re: American cops... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Drones are the new Boogey-man

    73. Re: American cops... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm sure the good folks in Manchester appreciate it.

    74. Re:American cops... by 0111+1110 · · Score: 1

      In what world does closing the bridge until that person is off the structure not seem like the normal response?

      The more sensible one that your parents grew up in. The one before 'out of an abundance of caution' became a thing. When more sensible people balanced public safety with public inconvenience and did not always shut down entire cities or highways or airports because an unplanned paper airplane was launched.

      Everyone is so afraid now. Is it the fault of the helicopter parents who raised the current generation who never let the kids play out of their sight? Now those same overprotected kids have grown up and apply the same principles to everything they do. Shutting down an entire bridge because of a little buzzing toy that was of no threat to anyone is ridiculous and cowardly.

      If what the guy did was illegal the cops could be waiting for him and just arrest him when he comes down. That's what would have happened up to the early 80s. Traffic may have still slowed a bit because of the police presence but it wouldn't have stopped. That would have been a more balanced and sensible solution. There was no reason to believe that man was a threat to anyone.

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    75. Re:American cops... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Amen.
      If the stupid cunt had fallen off and landed on a vehicle it would have been disastrous for a number of innocent bystanders. His death would have been, overall, a net positive.

      I'm not entirely discounting the idea that he could have a degree of mental illness, but one causing him to fly a drone from a bridge support would be pretty bloody unusual, so on balance I'd guess he was just a self-centred idiot.

    76. Re:American cops... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      | That is what happened in this case ... except it was the actions of the police, not the drone operator, that caused the problem.

      This is great logic. Go into a theater and shout "Bomb" or "Fire". Remember, your actions didn't cause the problem. The people fleeing the theatre caused the problem. They had no reason to believe that your were sincere. After all, it was just a prank. Couldn't they see your ethos fully on display?

    77. Re: American cops... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This story has nothing to do with fish!

    78. Re:American cops... by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      The proper thing to do is to run the plates, and go arrest the guy while he is watching TV later than evening.

      Don't you think arresting someone whose car's been stolen is adding insult to injury?

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    79. Re: American cops... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Obvious solution is to add a footpath into the rail bridge. (A la London Hungerford bridge)

    80. Re:American cops... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Historically, most American terrorism is ecoterrorism, and it accounts for about 3/4 of of all US terrorist attacks. Your bigoted prejudice produced strawman 'terrorists' account for only for about 5% of US terrorism.

    81. Re: American cops... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh get over yourself. I knew some fool would march the catholics diddling a few choir boys out. It's not the same thing fool. For one thing the muslims conciser mohammad to be the perfect man. We are all to emulate him, do as he does. So they intend to bring the cultural norms of the 5th century into the 21 century. In other words its perfectly fine for a 50+ year old man to fuck a 9 year old girl. Look up child brides and islam. Better do it quickly before google censors it all. Look for old men marrying 9 year old girls.

      I'm sure some of you fools still don't believe me. Here is the text from one of islams holy books as written by the child he molested and raped.


      That the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).
      SAHIH BUKHARI, Vol 7, Book 62, Number 64 as Narrated by 'Aisha

      Show me in the Christian Bible or any Catholic text where it says "go forth and fuck the little boys." The crimes against those boys was done by a few sick individuals. Pedophilia is written into islams core beliefs. But don't just trust me. Go do the research yourself. Read islams sick books for your self and find out for yourself how disgusting a religion it is.

    82. Re:American cops... by hdyoung · · Score: 1

      Your first point has some validity, but it's really easy to make the right call after the event, when all the facts are known. When presented with a speeder in reality, the cops have to make a snap judgement call: do we allow the speeder to go for now and arrest later? If we do, he might just keep on speeding through 25mph streets and eventually flatten a toddler. In that case, a high speed chase might prevent a death. On the other hand, if he's just trying to get away from us, then we should let him go and do exactly what you said. Arrest later. I don't envy having to make that call.

      You're analyzing the bridge situation in the same way. The guy turned out to be harmless.The cops could have been a lot more relaxed in dealing with it, but ONLY IF THEY WERE OMNISCIENT AT THAT POINT IN TIME. They aren't. At that point in time that the cops had no way of knowing if he was suicidal, a prankster, a vandal hoping to drop a brick on traffic, a terrorist, or just a dumb teenage monkey trying to get a selfie. They had to make a call that balanced safety, convenience and police resources.

    83. Re:American cops... by Powercntrl · · Score: 1

      Because you just take it out of a box and put batteries in it and use it to create Youtube videos for revenue.

      That bird has flown. It's difficult enough to monetize YouTube videos even if you're producing content people want to watch. Without the knowledge and luck required to become a successful content producer, a drone will just be tits on a bull.

      Video game streaming is the same way - a few people do make money doing it, but the majority don't.

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    84. Re:American cops... by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      The more sensible one that your parents grew up in.

      Horseshit. People have been closing roads due to risk from climbers for as far back as anyone can remember.

    85. Re:American cops... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, thy wouldn't have but feel free to keep sucking that hyperbole dick. It suits bitches like you who don't have something intelligent to contribute. Very edgy, very edgy indeed.

    86. Re:American cops... by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      This! Exactly how is a quad copter going to damage a bridge?

      I think the concern would be that the (drunk?) drone pilot might fall off the bridge and injure an innocent car driver or cause an accident when someone swerved to avoid the body.

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    87. Re: American cops... by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Concentrated in a small insignificant corner of the country yes. Involved in a localized Civil War. That is not the same. They mostly killed each other and did not often kill random civilians outside of the area in which they lived. Well not much anyway.

      Yeah, they never killed any random civilians in bombings in London or Birmingham or Guildford or Manchester or...oh wait, yes of course they fucking did.

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    88. Re:American cops... by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      I read that there are still in England the aristocratic lords living in luxury castles placed in vast fenced parks.

      Yes, absolutely, England is currently the only country in the entire world with extremely wealthy people living there.

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    89. Re:American cops... by mjwx · · Score: 1

      But with the increasing body count from the followers of a certain religion you can't be that way any more.

      When it comes to terrorism, backpacks are a far bigger risk than drones.

      The problem here isn't the risk of terrorism on the M48 Severn crossing, rather the risk of some idiot falling out of a bridge tower (or throwing himself out) which would shut down the motorway for hours here in the UK. Although this might explain why the M4 was so clear on the 31st... Everyone was using the M48.

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    90. Re:American cops... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nonsense. Nobody is saying we should just let people speed. But there is also no need for cops to chase offenders at high speed through residential neighborhoods. The proper thing to do is to run the plates, and go arrest the guy while he is watching TV later than evening.

      Like most things in life it's not that black and white, you have to take context into consideration. General speeder? Sure catch them later. Car full of people shooting at other cars? Probably needs to be taken off the road now.

    91. Re:American cops... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your first point is weak.

      "When the cops chase a speeder and cause an accidental death, people decide that cop chases are the root of all traffic accidents. This only makes sense if you ignore the fact that speeders cause tons of death themselves."

      Really? "...cop chases are the root of all traffic accidents..."? Not that I've ever heard. However the cops have a responsibility to not make a situation worse.

      Chase a person who is speeding, and chances are they will speed more to get away. Not sure? Try it. I'm serious, this is one of those things that the police can use operationally. Don't ban chasing speeders, just ask the police to test the premise at the time of enforcement. If the speeder races away and things are getting more dangerous, call off the pursuit. If the speeder halts to receive their ticket, the situation ends immediately.

      Furthermore, this is my understanding of how police enforcement now works, in many jurisdictions. Police aren't banned from pursuing. They only have to call off a pursuit if the speeds and traffic situations get too hot. Better to arrest the miscreant a day or two later than to have an innocent bystander or three killed.

  3. GIFT for drones by magarity · · Score: 1

    There must be a quad-copter owners' version of the Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory... DOFT?

    1. Re: GIFT for drones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have seen this bridge. It is one of those unique bridges where form meets function - beautiful to look at and sweet to walk on. You cannot tell where the walking pleasure end and the viewing pleasure begins.

  4. Drone seems incidental here... by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I know it's the hot thing to bring up drone related closings - but in this case, wasn't the road closed because there was some guy far above it that might have fallen or dropped things on the road from above, rather than the drone being a factor?

    The drone doesn't seem to be a reason for the closure, at all.

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    1. Re:Drone seems incidental here... by Calydor · · Score: 1

      I was thinking the same thing. I can understand shutting down an airport because the drone can actually cause damage to an airplane motor or other sensitive parts, but shutting down the bridge in this case seems like something you'd have to do anytime there's people around.

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    2. Re: Drone seems incidental here... by Miamicanes · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I think the "drone" aspect was just played up as clickbait due to the recent (alleged) drone incident at the airport.

    3. Re: Drone seems incidental here... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yup. I'd rather get hit by a "drone" than a "rock".

  5. Geeze by AndyKron · · Score: 1

    Waiting for the YT video....

  6. Computers by JBMcB · · Score: 2

    But buying a computer and posting on forums isn't?

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    1. Re:Computers by 110010001000 · · Score: 0

      Yeah. It isn't. Moron.

    2. Re: Computers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stupid american n1ggers are full of shit, and rather resort to ad hominem than to argument.

    3. Re: Computers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is.

    4. Re: Computers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      stupid whites fail to recognize a ridiculous proposition that isn't worth an argument

    5. Re: Computers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thanks for the observation, Ivan.

  7. Re:concern for your welfare by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Well SirAsshole - if this asshole (a relative perhaps?) had fallen from the tower onto the road below and caused a bus full of school kids to swerve and crash you would probably be saying something different.

  8. Drones always close down British infrastructure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I once had a dream about a drone. I called the Mayor of London to tell him and he closed down the entire city for 6 days!

    We Brits take our drones very seriously.

    1. Re:Drones always close down British infrastructure by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      Jeri Ryan once visited London, they closed down the city for a week.

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    2. Re:Drones always close down British infrastructure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To be fair, I would give London a break for taking action against a Borg invasion. Non-existent drones on the other hand ..... not so impressive, guys

      https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/dec/23/gatwick-drone-chaos-arrested-couple-released-without-charge

      "There may not have been any drones after all"

  9. Over-reaction by nehumanuscrede · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If the guy climbed it with a rifle strapped to his back then, sure, take some precautionary steps.

    Shutting down traffic because someone is flying an RC aircraft from the top of a bridge ?

    Really ?

    That stupid decision caused far more problems than it solved.

    If the drivers there are anything like the ones in the States, they would not have noticed it in the first place because they are usually staring at their phones.

    I swear half the planet is terrified of their own shadow these days.

       

    1. Re:Over-reaction by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Stuff dropped into fast roads is very dangerous. A drone could do quite a bit of damage if hit at speed. Even something that wouldn't do much damage can cause people to swerve.

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    2. Re:Over-reaction by thegarbz · · Score: 2

      If the guy climbed it with a rifle strapped to his back then, sure, take some precautionary steps.

      Shutting down traffic because someone is flying an RC aircraft from the top of a bridge ?

      How do you know if he had a rifle? While we're at it, what makes you think the drone was in any way involved. I'll bet you a Marsbar that if you climbed the bridge without anything on you they'll still stop traffic until you're done. That's kind of text book scenario.

      That stupid decision caused far more problems than it solved.

      What? Reduced the chance of a chain of potential injuries / fatalities if someone managed to fall from somewhere they weren't supposed to be onto moving vehicles below? All in exchange for some slow commuter traffic? Even if the UK wasn't a nation full of people brought up on the idea of orderly queuing for a long time and spending a good portion of the day swearing politely at traffic, this still wouldn't have "caused far more problems than it solved."

    3. Re:Over-reaction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Damn. I used to fly kites off the top of parking ramps in college. I simply did not realize that I was a bad-ass thug back then.

    4. Re:Over-reaction by bgspence · · Score: 1

      Dropping a rock would do more damage than a light weight plastic drone

    5. Re:Over-reaction by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Assuming it's a light weight plastic drone. Obviously the police are not going to risk it being something more substantial until they have actually made that determination. Maybe it's different where they are but they have a legal obligation here, it comes under health and safety laws.

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    6. Re:Over-reaction by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Assuming it's a light weight plastic drone. Obviously the police are not going to risk it being something more substantial until they have actually made that determination. Maybe it's different where they are but they have a legal obligation here, it comes under health and safety laws.

      The danger is surely from a falling 100 kilogram meatsack, not a featherweight plastic toy?

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  10. Model Airplane incident by prefec2 · · Score: 1

    When I grew up these incidents where called model airplane incident. When did they renamed them drones? I know this is off topic, but it is new years eve. Time to become nostalgic.

    1. Re:Model Airplane incident by Fly+Swatter · · Score: 1

      When did they renamed them drones

      When they took all of the skill out of it.

    2. Re:Model Airplane incident by CanadianMacFan · · Score: 1

      Remote control airplanes and helicopters still exist. Drones, as this article talks about, are a different thing. They have a body with multiple, usually four, rotors attached to to the sides.

      In general drone is just a shorthand for an unmanned aerial vehicle which includes all of the small hobby things and the big aircraft that are typically used by the military.

    3. Re:Model Airplane incident by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      so the model airplane I had as kid could go a lot faster than these stupid things making it more dangerous.

      yeah, let's all panic over this toy flying from a bridge tower

    4. Re:Model Airplane incident by samwichse · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but it takes a lot more skill to fly. These drones (quad/hex/whatevercopters) are the September that never ended for the RC aircraft community.

      When I was learning to fly RC, I was buddy-cabled to an experienced RC pilot and he drilled in all the relevant safety info while we only flew at a designated RC field.

      This idiot probably got the drone for Christmas, tried it out and said "wowee that's easy to fly" and immediately went somewhere he wasn't supposed to and did something he wasn't supposed to.

      September. That. Never. Ended.

  11. neither hacking nor pranking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is neither the hacker nor prankster ethos. It is just selfish, idiotic, and puts others at risk. Falling from such a height could easily kill someone in a vehicle or cause a serious accident. @b0s0z0ku: If you think this sentiment is being authoritarian you are almost certainly an idiot or a psychopath---probably both.

    1. Re:neither hacking nor pranking by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 1

      I'm just not a coward and remember when the world had a sense of humor -- in the 1970s, someone stretched a tightrope between the Twin Towers and walked on it for a while. He was given a slap on the hand and most people appreciated the stunt rather than freaking out about it. If not being for a perfectly safe, sterile society makes me a psychopathic idiot, I wear that badge with pride.

    2. Re: neither hacking nor pranking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Burn in hell you piece of shit.

    3. Re:neither hacking nor pranking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Swing and a miss there, chump! You do realize that nobody questioned your cowardice or your memory, just whether you were an idiot or a psychopath.

    4. Re:neither hacking nor pranking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, and in 1974 when Philippe Petit did that, you could board an aeroplane without having to take your shoes off, stand in a full-body scanner and be forced to put all liquids in your hand luggage in a little clear plastic bag for inspection. You could also ride in the back seat of the car without a safety belt (most cars didn't have one). Also, you could get up into those two twin towers in New York. Very much of the paranoid security theater in the world today is because of one big event involving the place where the mentioned tightrope walk happened.

      The world of 2018 is very much different from that of 44 years ago (that is over two generations back). Do you really think that if someone did something similar to what Philippe Petit today, that they would get away with "a slap on the hand"? If you do, you are almost certainly an idiot.

    5. Re: neither hacking nor pranking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is probably a Russian troll putting in rude responses hoping to chace away thoughtful posters from intelligent discussion forums.

  12. Re:concern for your welfare by SirAstral · · Score: 0

    Meaningless whatifism...

    The same could have happened to a sick person walking on the side walk and stumbled into the street as well. Are you going to write a law and hire a legion of police enforcing that law and removing infirm people from the side of the road?

    As usual someone like you failed to understand... it's not the enforcement of the law that is being "assholed about here" it is folks like you more than willing to let government run amuck in response to someone doing something more inconvenient and stupid which is exponentially far worse than the problem at hand.

    You really do need to chill and stop letting petty excuses like this goad you into being more of a moron than the moron you are angry at.

  13. Click Bait by Fly+Swatter · · Score: 1

    Would you bother to read 'Bridge closes when man climbs to top'?

    1. Re:Click Bait by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

      The funny thing is, I was also thinking about alternate headlines - but they aren't really that much less interesting!

      I actually would read about a guy climbing to the top of some really well known bridge, the drone factor adds that extra twist for sure, but the basic story itself is still unusual enough I would be interested (as I've read before about people climbing to the top of the Golden Gate bridge for example)..

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    2. Re:Click Bait by nukenerd · · Score: 1

      Would you bother to read 'Bridge closes when man climbs to top'?

      Because it is a major bridge (one of the two motorway bridges into South Wales), and taking your "you" to mean me I use this bridge most days.

  14. Someone wants more anti-drone regulations by DCFusor · · Score: 2

    So creates all these false flags to whip up fear so the public won't object too hard. H.L. Mencken said:
    Civilization, in fact, grows more and more maudlin and hysterical; especially under democracy it tends to degenerate into a mere combat of crazes; the whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary.
    Looking more and more prophetic and correct by the day.

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  15. Shutdowns are normal for this type of thing by Solandri · · Score: 2

    I was stuck for 2 hours on the freeway because someone climbed over the side wall of an overpass. Police were afraid he was going to suicide by jumping into freeway traffic below, so shut down traffic to protect the lives of people driving underneath.

  16. Pics or it didn't happen by grumling · · Score: 1

    The only reason for flying the drone was for the "epic" selfie he'd post to the soc-nets. Only reason the BBC mentioned the drone was so they could add a few paragraphs about the airport incident before Christmas.

    It's like the media elites don't want the rest of us invading their airspace. They paid big bucks for those helicopters and here you come with your Mavic Pro. Better make them illegal so the 'beeb can go back to their monopoly on TV.

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  17. Re:concern for your welfare by thegarbz · · Score: 2

    Would be much cheaper if government just ignored this slob or waited for him to come down an arrest him without all of this "over reactive BS".

    Would it be cheaper if he fell? Hit a car causing a chain of accidents that took hours to clear and closed the bridge for a significantly longer time?

    Check yourself before you wreak yourself man. That anti-government anger vein on your forehead looks like it's about to burst.

  18. practicing for a hard brexit? by Jeremy+Erwin · · Score: 1

    On March 29, the UK will shoot itself in the foot. A well rehearsed drone campaign with disruptions to infrastructure and transportaion networks could insure that the wound festers properly.

  19. He's doing it wrong... by mspohr · · Score: 1

    You're supposed to have the drone fly up to the top of the towers so that you don't have to climb up to get the photo.

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  20. Re:concern for your welfare by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Meaningless whatifism...

    The same could have happened to a sick person walking on the side walk and stumbled into the street as well. Are you going to write a law and hire a legion of police enforcing that law and removing infirm people from the side of the road?

    You are truly an idiot. There is no need to write such a law. Law enforcement can and will intervene if they find someone that is a hazard to themselves or others, whatever the reason.

    "Whatifsm"... pfft. When something happens and it could have been prevented by the reasonable measures already in place there is an outrage. Nothing happens, lunatics like you come crawling out of the woodwork spewing paranoia and hatred. I have no trouble with the latter creeps being pissed off.

    From all your ramblings I understand that you are a paranoid anti-government kook, so there is no reasoning with you. Put on your tinfoil hat and go into your underground nuclear shelter where you are safe from those that are out to get you.

  21. Ally Law youtuber by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There's been a few YouTubers/freerunner types to climb it, some using drones while on it, and each time it gets shut. Yes it's partly the drone for any number of reasons and yes any reaction to it will be overblown out of fear of the unknown and that there's a handful of people dedicated to preventing this kind of shit. It is bloody high and windy too - I should think if you only went 10 metres up and got out a camera the bridge will be shut just the same.

  22. Severn Bridge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Isn't that the awesome new i7 processor from Intel?

  23. Well, if you believe that a 500g drone by aberglas · · Score: 1

    can destroy a 100 ton airliner, why wouldn't you believe that it can also destroy a bridge?

    1. Re: Well, if you believe that a 500g drone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I love you

  24. Its the new planking by BeCre8iv · · Score: 1

    I Know the area. People climbing the towers is not new or unusual. There is just a fad for doing stupid things while flying a drone.

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  25. Re:concern for your welfare by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You seem to totally fail to grasp that there is a *significant* and *immediate* danger that this person will fall and cause serious injury and death to others.

  26. Not the first time it's happened by Slimee · · Score: 1

    It's not like it would be the first time, youtuber Ally Law went up there last February with a group of people and a drone. They caused the bridge to be shutdown as a result too though. Video can be found on his youtube channel though. Definitely a sweaty palm sorta video though