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Ask Slashdot: An Android or iOS App For Boosting the Volume of Speech-Impaired Person?

dryriver writes: A relative of mine has been left with extremely low speech volume -- about 25% of a normal speaker -- and lack of high pitch capability after a major throat surgery. He cannot speak on the phone at all now -- you cannot hear him properly on the other end of the line, even though you can understand his speech OK when you are standing in the room next to him. Is there an assistive Android app that can:
1. Significantly boost the output volume (e.g. X 4) of the Android phone microphone he speaks into.
2. Add voice box, equalizer, autotune or audio filtering/bass boosting type audio effects in realtime to the microphone input to fix the speaker's pitch.
3. Can filter out background noise to some extent (so it doesn't get boosted as well).
4. Allows these effects to be used easily during phonecalls?
All the Android microphone/equalizer/megaphone type apps I've tried so far have huge problems -- some are novelty voice-changer apps for teens, some demand ridiculously broad permissions to everything on the phone including realtime location data of the user, some demand that an external mic is attached to the phone, some are too simple technically to do anything useful and some are advertising-fests that are plain unusable. Is there a good Android -- or iOS -- app for the speech impaired that would give this person a chance to make audio phonecalls on a smartphone again? Thanks for any advice!

68 comments

  1. Low talkers by nospam007 · · Score: 1

    I guess you tried these at the receiving end for low talkers?

    https://www.amazon.com/Serene-...

    I found this for the starting end.

    https://store.rjcooper.com/pro...

    PS. Beware the puffy shirts.

    1. Re:Low talkers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Serenity NOW!

    2. Re: Low talkers by BeauHD-Cum+Dumpster · · Score: 1

      Wut

    3. Re:Low talkers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No I haven't tried low talkers yet. I have a hearing loss in one ear so my audio will always be suspect but I still use my iPhone 6s and reduce my monthly bill from $80 to $50. As a phone and a video camera, the iPhone 6s isn't obsolete and I use it to make my videos on youtube. As a Sprint very special customer for 20+ years, Sprint will always give me a new iPhone for free if I decide to stop using the 6s as a phone in the next several years.
      UPDATE: Santa brough me a Panasonic HC-V180K camcorder for Christmas to replace my iPhone 6s for recording #YouTube videos.
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    4. Re: Low talkers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly. Funny how these things work. A lot of these app makers assume they can use fancy concepts like equalization and sibilance when the opposite is true: it is simply loss of fidelity and having a persistent background thread running to use AI to boost data fidelity by interpolating missing data points is an efficient way to attack the problem. I am sorry more so called software engineers never figure these things out earlier in the product development cycle but at least they look and learn from their mistakes.

    5. Re:Low talkers by stephanruby · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Until real-time lip reading becomes reliable, I'd use video communication with him. This way, you can read his lips, read the expressions on his face, and he can even sign to you or point his camera to objects as a secondary mode of communication.

      Also, I wouldn't discount any app that requires GPS location. Any good assistive app should be able to share your location at the press of the button, especially if the person on the other end can't hear you and is trying to find you.

      And last but not least, I would sign him up for TTY services. If he's in the US, it's free I think. This way, he can type what he wants and the person on the other end, an actual human being, will voice what he's typing.

  2. Yes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And it is called text messaging

    1. Re: Yes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How far does your volume go up in these apps?

    2. Re: Yes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And when the signal gets more unstable over time... one would need to try new apps, amirite?

    3. Re: Yes by ArhcAngel · · Score: 1

      All the way to 11!

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    4. Re: Yes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Creimertard. Delete thread.

    5. Re: Yes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He likes to call himself commodoretard because he gives orders and does not take them

    6. Re: Yes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At least with text messaging you never have to say whats that? are you still there?

    7. Re: Yes by nospam007 · · Score: 1

      "How far does your volume go up in these apps?"

      Unfortunately not to 11.

  3. Vibration Mics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Not endorsing this one, but there are microphones that pick up your sound based on vibration. Maybe try one of those?

    1. Re:Vibration Mics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Sorry, link https://smile.amazon.com/Bluetooth-Adjustable-Microphone-Anti-noise-Headphones/dp/B00TDMP6F0/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

  4. what about headphones? by known_coward_69 · · Score: 1

    the microphone on those is closer to the mouth or with the apple airpods they are supposed to detect your voice via bone movement or something like that

    1. Re:what about headphones? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have a hearing loss in one ear, so my audio will always be suspect. I use a Zoom H2 audio recorder with a pop filter 12" away from my mouth, Audacity to clean up and normalize the audio, and sync the audio to the video and apply a "voice enhancement" eq to the audio in the video editor.
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  5. Microphone Amplifier by Artem+S.+Tashkinov · · Score: 2

    I've found this but I've never used it and I'm not sure if it can boost the mic volume during calls.

  6. No idea, but a suggestion by cloud.pt · · Score: 1

    I honestly don't know any, but I have a suggestion: look around to see if any of those you tried but have drawbacks that don't seem to be commercial (e.g. the ones that use broad permissions), and see if they are open-source, or if an open-source version exists. If it does, you have 2 options - 1. use the app as is, since you know what they have access to and how they use it, so in theory it should be "safe" or 2. checkout the source and remove any offending functionality, but this does require a level of Android development expertise

  7. Megaphone Bullhorn by thechemic · · Score: 1

    Don't forget about old school solutions such as a megaphone or bullhorn. Not perfect, but simple and effective.

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    1. Re:Megaphone Bullhorn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes in face to face speaking (which isn't needed, btw, see the rest of the response), and this question, had you read it, is for a phone conversation.

    2. Re:Megaphone Bullhorn by thechemic · · Score: 1

      Your condescending tone is only exceeded by your ignorance.

      Bullhorn instructions for use with a mobile phone, for dummies (like you):

      • Establish phone connection
      • place other party on speaker phone
      • point bullhorn at phone
      • pull trigger
      • speak with amplified voice
      • adjust bullhorn volume if needed
      • done
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  8. would not.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Would not a bluetooth handsfree of sort be available? they make all sorts of aides for disabled ppl i would guess there is one with a troat mic specifficly for this or something similar. i dont think you can get a app that will boost the microphones gain or atleast not a very good one.

  9. Add on mic? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I would very much recommend an add on mic, the mics on a phone are the cheapest the manufacture can find.

    An example would be Shure's Motiv line, though I'm not 100% sure they can be used for calls.

  10. Re:Hearing aids by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't think he needs help hearing.

  11. Proper bluetooth headset by thegarbz · · Score: 5, Informative

    The internal microphones on modern smartphones aren't ideal for this situation. They are positioned in a way that makes filtering background difficult, and any attempt at raising the volume would likely have horribly detrimental effects due to the environment too.

    Not all bluetooth headsets are created equal but there are many that have excellent background noise filtering. I don't have experience with very many but through my work I use a Platronics Voyager 5200 https://www.plantronics.com/us... and that is already leaps and bounds in audible quality improvement over normal phone users. Some headsets have audio normalisation in them as well.

    This kind of solution will be a tradeoff, the best results would be with a headset that has an unwieldy long boom that actually reaches the person's mouth.

  12. HearYouNow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I recommend "HearYouNow." Based on all the research I did when I was looking for something myself, as well as my personal experience, these apps works better on iOS. (And this is coming from an everything Android person.) I use HearYouNow on an old iPod touch and it works better than any of the ones I tried on much newer Android devices.

  13. Re:Hearing aids by r_naked · · Score: 1

    Yeah its called a hearing aid and does everything you want. Even has bluetooth now.

    I can't tell if you are being a smart ass or just didn't read the requirements. The problem is output volume, not input volume.

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  14. A hardware solution would seem best by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I would have thought a good quality noise cancelling microphone and a pair of headphones into the jack on the phone would seem to be the best solution. I don't know if the specifications for the phones input are available but if they are it should be relatively easy for a good electronics engineer to build a solution for you. It should even be possible to work from an existing external mice and headphones to a solution with care. This sort of solution might even provide something to make communication a little easier in general conversation and of course equalisation should also be possible. I'm UK based and will help if I can.

    1. Re:A hardware solution would seem best by nospam007 · · Score: 1

      "I would have thought a good quality noise cancelling microphone and a pair of headphones into the jack on the phone"

      What jack? In 2 years there won't be one.

  15. Throat mic? by drinkypoo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Significantly boost the output volume (e.g. X 4) of the Android phone microphone he speaks into.

    Have you considered trying a throat microphone? Good ones can pick up very low sounds.

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    1. Re:Throat mic? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, I haven't had a chance to try those yet but the IT clerk from San Jose who works in Palo Alto sure throats nicely since I did try that.

    2. Re:Throat mic? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      I was going to suggest a simple Bluetooth headset, perhaps with a mic boom. Find one that allows you to control the gain of the microphone to a decent level, or one that has automatic volume levelling with a wide enough range. Unfortunately you may have to just ask to demo a few in a shop to find a suitable one.

      Might be cheaper or less cumbersome than a throat mic.

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    3. Re:Throat mic? by N_Piper · · Score: 1

      The person in need HAS low end voice, presumably they lost some pliancy in their vocal cords that allowed the high frequency, what he wants to be able to do is amplify what little high range they are able to produce with a device they already have.
      Any sort of conductive microphone is only going to make the high frequency problem worse.

    4. Re:Throat mic? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Upon reflection, I have had another thought. Are you sure the user's phone doesn't have a hidden mic gain setting? Back when I used to dick around with the Motorola Triplets phones &c (like RAZR) one of the things I frequently diddled was audio gain. And I seem to recall there being at least four different audio gain settings on those phones, though the details are now hazy. Earphone, mic, speaker, and music gains maybe? I suppose the details are also irrelevant.

      Googling "build.prop mic gain" produced all kinds of interesting results, many of which are highly model-specific, so I'm not going to down that hole any meaningful distance. But if you're married to a software fix, there might actually be useful functionality in the phone already.

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    5. Re:Throat mic? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Might be cheaper or less cumbersome than a throat mic.

      Alas, pick one. The only boom mic that doesn't make me angry is the plantronics tube type, and those are spendy. I wouldn't be surprised if they had some kind of product actually meant to do this job, either.

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  16. Squeak up, I can't hear you! by dcooper_db9 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This isn't an answer to the question but it may be helpful to know what to expect. About ten years ago vasculitis severed the nerve to my vocal chords. Fortunately only one chord was permanently lost. Initially the second chord was very weak so I could only speak in a whisper, as with your family member. Over time the remaining chord strengthened and after a few months I was able to speak at a normal volume. I still can't sing, my voice tires easily and it sometimes cracks.

    It's critical to take care of the remaining chord; overuse can destroy it permanently. Tell him to see an ENT periodically and to consider speech therapy. Doctor's often don't refer patients for occupational therapy unless they ask. As they say, the squeaky wheel always gets the oil.

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  17. Re:Hearing aids by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Creimertard. Delete thread

  18. Classic solution to classic problem by Misagon · · Score: 2

    How about a wired telephone on a land-line: a telephone model that actually has a volume control and variable microphone amp, and placed in a fixed location that you know does not have too much background noise in the first place.

    This is a tried and true method. Many older non-mobile telephone models with volume/mic controls exist that have been designed with people with hearing problems and/or speech impediments in mind. It also used to be the norm that when you needed to telephone, you did it in a quieter place: that is why phone booths were booths -- not speakers on sticks in the middle of throngs of people.

    Modern mobile phones are not designed to be hardy tools as much as to appear desirable. The race towards thinness has resulted in tiny microphones and speakers that are already pushed to their limits out of the box, with background noise filtering always on. If you absolutely must have a mobile phone, then by all means get a proper headset with a boom-mic close to the mouth.

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    1. Re:Classic solution to classic problem by nospam007 · · Score: 1

      "How about a wired telephone on a land-line"

      The question was Android or iOS. not landline nor ham-radio.

    2. Re:Classic solution to classic problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      If someone walks into Home Depot asking for a screwdrive "to put these in" while holding a box of nails, they're going to be told they need a hammer. Yes they were asking for a screwdriver, but a scredriver wouldn't be appropriate for the job and the appropriate tool was suggested. Will a screwdriver sometimes work in a pinch, if the nails are small enough, and the handle durable enough? Sure, but it's still not the right tool.

      In this case, an app for an iPhone or Android mobile phone is not the right tool for the job, so they're being given recommendations for the proper tool. Some people are suggesting specific bluetooth headsets, which will help (similar to suggesting a sturdy screwdriver handle) but ultimately they need a quiet place, and a landline with an adjustable input to *properly* do the job.

    3. Re:Classic solution to classic problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When people ask for difficult (or impossible) combinations of requirements, it is often the result of putting too many conditions on the problem set. Lateral thinking is beneficial under these circumstances.

      Puts me in mind of one Apple user, defending Apple for not producing a laptop above a certain memory load-out. This user, rather bizarrely, blamed Intel for the problem! The logic went like this: Only a very particular type of laptop specific RAM was acceptable, and Intel had no support for that RAM in their chipsets (either that or only Intel produced that RAM, but that seems unlikely). The goal of this bizarre thinking was to produce the best possible battery life but that wasn't the primary issue. The primary issue being, Apple would not sell memory configurations above a certain level, and aftermarket mods to add RAM were not possible or permitted.

      Change the parameters of the problem, stop prematurely ruling out solution pathways, and you can gain access to whole new approaches to fixing it.

  19. Good luck texting a landline by tepples · · Score: 1

    Many numbers cannot send or receive text messages, such as landlines or home cellular service. Some of these carriers cannot relay text messages through text to speech; others can but charge a hefty premium per message.

    1. Re: Good luck texting a landline by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That is why TTL was invented, fool.

    2. Re: Good luck texting a landline by tepples · · Score: 1

      It's not "time to live" or "transistor-transistor logic" or "thank the Lord" or "time to leave" or "ta ta love". As for "text to landline", I addressed that: "others can [relay text to landlines] but charge a hefty premium per message." If you meant something different, please clarify.

    3. Re: Good luck texting a landline by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Obviously he meant TTY, not TTL.

  20. Double-edged sword by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You'd need to not only turn up the microphone gain, but also disable a lot of the noise-canceling features in a modern phone. It's totally doable, but I think the quality of the audio is going to be unacceptable unless he's in a very quiet room.

  21. Best Solution by Distortions · · Score: 1

    Honestly, the best solution is a good headset mic (with pop filter foam)... and software with a good multi-band compressor... If no usable software exists, a in-line (hardware) one could be made. A teeny 3.6 with a good external ADC (an external board exists for purchase) could be capable of this, possibly.

    If not, some other ARM dev board with more grunt could do it.

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  22. Hardware problem, not software by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Buy a proper microphone and pre-amp and learn how to use same.

  23. wrong idea by SuiteSisterMary · · Score: 3, Informative

    Get him a subvocal, or 'throat' microphone, and don't worry about trying to figure out how to boost the noise you want (his voice) while throwing away the noise you don't want (background.)

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  24. Construction contractors' phone by magarity · · Score: 5, Informative

    Try a phone designed for a construction contractor. Caterpillar markets a line of them. They are designed to deal with unusual sound requirements, both cranked up volume to being able to distinguish the user talking while next to some loud machine. On the surface it may not sound like your requirement but I suspect it's worth a try.

  25. Old-School DIY geek... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Electrical Engineering is not my speciality, but would it take much to wire up 2 microphones, facing opposite directions, into an operational amplifier like the 741, or perhaps better yet the LM386? The difference between the two signals would be his speech with background noise subtracted out & such a circuit could amplify just his speech.

    As for #2, feed it into a computer, run a Fast Fourier Transform, tweak the signals, and convert back.

    He might have to use speakerphone with such a getup, but...

  26. Re: Hearing aids by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It does everything except RTFSummary, which is apparently what you need the most help with

  27. The simplest solution (but not the most intuitive) by zarmanto · · Score: 4, Informative

    You know the old quote: the simplest solution is often the best one. My daughter seems to have found such a solution herself, as she is a "quite talker" as well -- but not out of any physical restrictions, mind you: she just talks exceptionally quietly for the sake of privacy. I believe you'd have to be sitting within less than a foot of her to really catch what she's saying, most of the time.

    So her simple solution? She just uses the standard wired headphones which came with her iPhone... and she puts the inline microphone in her mouth.

    I know it sounds a bit odd, but upon reading this Ask Slashdot question it occurred to me that it's actually effective on multiple fronts: the speakers are inside of her ears, so the audio feedback filter need not be applied to the sound coming into the microphone, the ambient sound from the room is somewhat muffled by her lips, and her vocal cords are just about as close to the microphone as they can get, reducing the amplification requirements. (Obviously you'll need to be careful that you don't spit all over the microphone, potentially damaging it.)

  28. You're holding it wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bear with me, but if you hold the phone with a cupped hand, you can direct your own sound waves into the phone and muffle ambient sound.

  29. Not everything can be solved with an app by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Phones on both ends of the line already do volume control and noise filtering, but if the SNR is simply not there, then that's all there is to it. You need a better microphone, not an app.

    1. Re:Not everything can be solved with an app by CAOgdin · · Score: 1

      This one can! Thank the gods that you posted as AC!

      I found this on Google Play: https://play.google.com/store/...

      I'm sure there are many more (Google Play, of course, assumes an Android device); I don't know what Apple may offer.

    2. Re: Not everything can be solved with an app by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That one boosts headphones, not the microphone.

      Wishing you posted AC, too, now?

  30. Telephone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Try using this thing called a TELEPHONE and not a SmartPhone. Modern "SmartPhones" (ie, Android / iOS) are NOT designed for talking. They are designed to for playing games and watching and listening to compressed all to ratshit video and audio.

    In other words, get a device designed for the making and receiving of voice telephone calls, not a device designed for some other purpose.

  31. Need to shift not boost base by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm having trouble seeing the comments on my phone, so forgive if I'm being redundant. However, phones used a band pass filter that is narrower than human hearing. That is low frequencies and high frequencies are cut out. They have always done this to my understanding. So you need to shift his speech up and it will go through just fine I think.

  32. I have it! by N_Piper · · Score: 1

    VLC for Android has a 10 band EQ and the ability to playback audio not from the built in mic or headset jack but from a USB audio source

  33. Try Babbellabs - can help with a lot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    https://babblelabs.com/

    You might have to code some

  34. external amplifier by roc97007 · · Score: 1

    As a hardware solution, there are external amplifiers that will plug into the headphone jack.

    ...oh, wait...

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  35. My father cannot separate sounds. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He lost the ability to distinguish speech in vicinity from background (even distant) sounds.

    I don't know whether it's just lack of control of ear bone geometry or a hard time decoding sounds in the brain.

    He probably needs some kind of noise dampening headphones -- I wonder if that exists for pilots.

  36. App can't solve it by ilsaloving · · Score: 1

    The problem is that an app won't be able to solve these issues because they are inherently hardware dependent. You need a microphone/headset that is super-sensitive. Of course, the other side of that is you can't have a super-sensitive microphone that doesn't also pick up everything around you as well.

    Maybe a directional mic of some kind?

    While I haven't looked for an autotuning-during-calls tool myself, I would expect that you should be able to find such an item for Android. I think a similar tool on iOS would be unlikely cause Apple very rigidly controls what apps can do on their hardware, but I could be wrong.

    If you can't find hardware to do at least some of your list of requirements, then your best option would probably to just not use the phone. Use text, or maybe a messaging app like WhatsApp or Signal that lets you communicate walkie-talkie style. That could serve as a starting point to a workflow that incorporates autotuning software.