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Link Between Social Media and Depression Stronger In Teen Girls Than Boys, Study Says (cnn.com)

According to a new study published in the journal EClinicalMedicine, the link between social media use and depressive symptoms in 14-year-olds may be much stronger for girls than boys. CNN reports: Among teens who use social media the most -- more than five hours a day -- the study showed a 50% increase in depressive symptoms among girls versus 35% among boys, when their symptoms were compared with those who use social media for only one to three hours daily. Yet the study, conducted in the UK, showed only an association between social media use and symptoms of depression, which can include feelings of unhappiness, restlessness or loneliness. The findings cannot prove that frequent social media use caused depressive symptoms, or vice versa. The study also described other factors, such as lack of sleep and cyberbullying, that could help explain this association.

For the study, researchers analyzed data on 10,904 14-year-olds who were born between 2000 and 2002 in the United Kingdom. The data, which came from the UK Millennium Cohort Study, included information from questionnaires on the teens' depressive symptoms and social media use. Depressive symptoms were recorded as scores, and the researchers looked at which teens had high or low scores. They found that on average, girls had higher depressive symptom scores compared with boys. The researchers also found that girls reported more social media use than boys; 43.1% of girls said they used social media for three or more hours per day, versus 21.9% of boys. The data showed that for teens using social media for three to five hours, 26% of girls and 21% of boys had depressive symptom scores higher than those who used social media for only about one to three hours a day.
As for the gender gap, Yvonne Kelly, first author of the study and professor of epidemiology and public health, believes it has to do with "the types of things that girls and boys do online."

"In the UK, girls tend to more likely use things like Snapchat or Instagram, which is more based around physical appearance, taking photographs and commenting on those photographs," she said. "I think it has to do with the nature of use."

181 comments

  1. Emotional by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Females are more emotional then males. We've known this for thousands of years. Cavemen understood this. Was a clinical study really necessary?

    1. Re: Emotional by lucasnate1 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      If females are supposedly more emotional than man, why do men commit much more suicides?

    2. Re: Emotional by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If females are supposedly more emotional than man, why do men commit much more suicides?

      Men are more successful at suicide. One more thing that men are better at! Go men!

      "Nothing stands in your way, when you're a boy."
      -- David Bo(y)wie

    3. Re: Emotional by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      because its better to commit suicide then try to reason with a woman.

    4. Re: Emotional by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      its cause they have to listen to shit like this from every flappy headed pair of tits that lived

    5. Re: Emotional by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's kinda funny how your inability to get laid without paying cash translates directly to your anger at all females, GOP incels. Try to keep your suicide area tidy for the rest of us, eh? Attaboy.

    6. Re: Emotional by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, they also attempt it and fail much more often also. Males are just precious little snowflakes I guess, not able to accept the world as it is. It explains the snowflake "victim" male dominance of the GOP perfectly...

      Snowflake? GOP?

      What fucking color is the sky on your planet?

      Or maybe you can point me to all the unhinged Republicans who rioted when Nancy Pelosi returned as Speaker of the House?

      You know, like the whackjob progtards did when Trump became President?

      And do you know why 2019 is going to be ANOTHER great year?

      It's ANOTHER year that HilLIARy! is not President!

      BWAAA HAAA HAAAA!!!!

    7. Re: Emotional by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wrong. Male and female attempt rates are equal. Men are more "successful" because they typically aren't concerned with what they will look like dead. So gun to the head is much more common.

    8. Re: Emotional by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Females tend to make attempts using methods which are likely to fail while males most often make attempts using very reliable methods.

      I know that for myself (a male), if I were to choose to attempt suicide my preference would be for a method with the lowest odds of failure. If it were possible to instantly break down every part of my body to subatomic components this would be most ideal.

      This requires fairly intense planning and a clear, dedicated and objective view of the task as a goal including arguably the greatest commitment possible for a human being.

      Women most often tend to act out driven by what appears to be temporary instantaneous emotional distress without much long-term planning or weighting of cost vs. benefit and probability of success or consequences of failure.

      Their choice of methods seem to favor those methods with less certainty of success.

      There are many studies linked from the Wikipedia article on ths subject: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    9. Re: Emotional by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Holy fuck you're just NOW calling out "victim" behaviour? Have you been asleep the last ten years?
      Projection isn't just a river in egypt.

    10. Re: Emotional by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Another year she's not in prison either though! Lol. There are a lot of years left in the world. Trump is preparing himself to spend the rest of his in prison, like Paul Manafort, his campaign manager and fellow traitor/fraud.

      The bitch traitors are going to die in prison, where they belong. You should prepare yourself for it too, lol snowflake.

    11. Re: Emotional by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      False, the attempt rate of males is over twice that of females. When you GOP beta INCELs are rejected by women, that's not really an excuse to make shit up on the internet just because you're a nutless eunuch yeast case.

    12. Re: Emotional by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If females are supposedly more emotional than man, why do men commit much more suicides?

      Men are more inclined to commit fully to the act, resulting in death.
      With women, it appears to be a cry for help and their _attempt_ at suicide would rarely result in death.
      The two scenarios are reported on and accordingly managed differently at my workplace. Suffice to say, the "attempt" is a higher statistic.

      My comment is purely anecdotal, but is based on 22 years working in the Security Office at a prominent New Zealand University.

    13. Re: Emotional by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Republicans pretend to be the victims all the time, exactly my point. Poor widdle white males in backwater coaltard states, awwwwww. You're so precious snowflake, I hope you get your coal mine jerb back, I really do. Lol.

      Yeah don't let those "17 thousand terrorists" Trump claims to have personally stopped at the border "victimize" you, at least not statistically more often than you red state faggots molest/rob/drug/kill your own kids, right Trumptards?

      Optics, bud. Trump going off to prison is going to be the best victimstance your inbred ilk ever knew. Get your crybaby face on, hurry, Mueller's coming!

    14. Re: Emotional by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wrong again. Insulting me won't change reality.

    15. Re: Emotional by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Participation in this outrage culture trend does not appear to be tied to political alignment.
      Republicans just tend to be 'triggered' by different things than Liberals. But they certainly have topics that get under their skins. And their snowflakeish outbursts can be just as ridiculous.

      Analyse what kind of fearmongering tactics the media uses for their respective audiences. And how those audiences are moved emotionally by those things.

      And if you want an example just reflect on the content of your own post here. See how you reacted to a thought concept that you did not agree with. Or at least how you wanted people to perceive your reaction.

    16. Re: Emotional by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      nutless eunuch yeast case

      I must admit, I LOLed.

    17. Re: Emotional by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Snowflake, nobody knows or cares who you are or why you're so afraid of women that you want to make shit up online, lol. INCEL problems, good luck. Maybe you can get a job in AM radio or a conservative think tank..

      But the truth is women commit suicide less often than men, it's just a fact. Don't get all upset and go out on a building ledge over this, lol..

    18. Re:Emotional by GuB-42 · · Score: 0

      Females are more emotional then males. We've known this for thousands of years. Cavemen understood this. Was a clinical study really necessary?

      Cavemen "understood" a lot of things that turned out to be completely wrong. Proper studies are the difference between science and superstition.
      And even assuming that you are right about females being more emotional (I think you are), what can you make of that affirmation? What does "emotional" means? How do you apply that knowledge to the link between social media and depression? These preconceptions can guide your research, they can even be taken into account into your calculations (Bayesian statistics), but without testing, these are almost worthless.

    19. Re: Emotional by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How embarrassing. You have the sexes reversed. Top kek. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4539867/

    20. Re: Emotional by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Seems to me like you're the one getting all upset. You can't make a single post without a juvenile insult. The projection is obvious.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_differences_in_suicide

      "Suicide attempts are between two and four times more frequent among females."

    21. Re: Emotional by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Men are less likely to get help before offing themselves (both as in less likely to seek it as well as less likely to actually receive help if they do seek it.)

    22. Re: Emotional by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How dried up and crusty do you have to be to think anybody on Slashdot, of all sites, gives a fuck about your thottery?

    23. Re: Emotional by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Show a man he is wrong.
      Show a woman she is wrong.
      From their reactions you will immediately realize that women are many levels more emotional than men.

    24. Re: Emotional by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wrong again, bucko.

      "high-status group members routinely showed stronger in-group bias than did low-status group members, irrespective of the basis for their status (e.g., religious, ethnic, economic, or physical attractiveness), but only at the implicit level"

      In other words, high status men are more sexist (using the implicit bias test for sexism) than low-status men. They are more pro-male biased than their low-status peers. https://rutgerssocialcognitionlab.weebly.com/uploads/1/3/9/7/13979590/rudmangoodwin2004jpsp.pdf

      Worse yet for your massive cognitive dissonance, women prefer sexist men to non-sexist men. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0146167218781000

    25. Re: Emotional by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      According to studies and WHO reports males use more lethal methods when attempting suicide, resulting in more frequent success about two times (if you want to call it that).

      However the rates for attempted suicide are 4 times higher in females.

      Suicidal thoughts also appear to be more frequent among females.

      And while you can't be sure if males just won't tell others about their suicidal thoughts, this still appears to be a good indicator that females are emotional as far as this goes.

    26. Re: Emotional by Dorianny · · Score: 1

      If you need a wall to protect you from "invaders" with no weapons or shoes you are most definitely a Snowflake

    27. Re: Emotional by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you need a wall to protect you from "invaders" with no weapons or shoes you are most definitely a Snowflake

      Hmmm, if the US is so damn awful, why don't "progressives" want to build a wall around it so people can't leave their "oh so much better than the US" places and head for the US illegally?

    28. Re: Emotional by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      WTF is this? A response to a political topic that is actually reasonable and balanced? You clearly don't belong on Slashdot.

    29. Re:Emotional by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      Women are on average more neurotic than men. James Damore got fired for saying this.

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    30. Re:Emotional by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      Cavemen understood this.

      You know this how? Have you spoken to some cavemen or analysed their writings?

      Yeah didn't think so. Sounds more like it's a "fact" you made up because you think it sounds true.

      Was a clinical study really necessary?

      It sure beats making wild-as guesses about cave-men.

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    31. Re:Emotional by quenda · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Women are on average more neurotic than men. James Damore got fired for saying this.

      Women are on average higher in neuroticism, one of the Big-5 personality traits.

      This is unfortunately named, as it is not the same as being neurotic.

    32. Re: Emotional by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If psychology had a better than 50% replication rate I might take your comment more seriously. Some fields pretending to be science aren't, e.g. psychology, macro economics, political science

    33. Re: Emotional by c6gunner · · Score: 1

      How much you wanna bet that people who score high on neuroticism are far more likely to be neurotic?

    34. Re:Emotional by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1, Troll

      Women are on average more neurotic than men. James Damore got fired for saying this.

      That's a massive misrepresentation of what he wrote: he said so, so much more than that.

      Here's the funny thing though you can't actually defend what he did write, you're defending a fantasy version of what he wrote. So, why are you defending it?

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    35. Re: Emotional by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They just don't have balls for it.

    36. Re:Emotional by AmiMoJo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Also, and this is the reason why he got fired, that difference is minor and the author of the study he cited for it has said publicly that the conclusion it affects women's performance in or preference for engineering jobs is unwarranted.

      It's a very old argument. It's odd that Damore didn't discover it and read the extensive debunkings that have been written over the centuries, and particularly in the modern era. It's almost as if he had a conclusion and googled evidence to support it.

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    37. Re: Emotional by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would love to see how much you are going to lose your shit when Trump pardons himself or steps aside to get Pence to do it...

    38. Re: Emotional by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How much you wanna bet this test was designed by white straight males

    39. Re: Emotional by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Looking at this comment thread, there's also the possibility that they have to take so much more crap online

    40. Re: Emotional by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe you should try to have some actual compassion for other people rather than just pretending to.

    41. Re: Emotional by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I didn't open the links (this is Slashdot, after all), but I believe that to be able to reach the cited conclusion of the second study, that study should have controlled for the effect described in the first article.

      Captcha: temper

    42. Re: Emotional by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You've been whining that Trump will be impeached and imprisoned for going on 3 years now.

      He isn't, he won't, and you'll suicide if he wins 2020.

    43. Re: Emotional by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If females are supposedly more emotional than man, why do men commit much more suicides?

      Because dealing with the logic of a woman can drive any man insane. Insane enough to take his own life.

    44. Re: Emotional by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, we need a wall to protect us from violent uneducated welfare zombies who don't need weapons or shoes to kill. They drain resources our existing citizens want and need.

      Your dishonest and despicable fabricated description of what's actually going on only reinforces beliefs that your objective is the destruction of your country.

      Try caring about your fellow citizen half as much as you care about a violent criminal who is fleeing their country after they thoroughly ruined it.

    45. Re: Emotional by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It actually was designed by a Japanese woman, but nice try, sjw.

    46. Re: Emotional by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's odd is that you are still talking about a memo that you obviously didn't read.

      And talking about it's citations? You literally argued that it had no citations, you fucking moron. You got tricked (again) by manipulative leftist news.

    47. Re: Emotional by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Somebody has to get stuff done.

    48. Re: Emotional by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He literally wrote exactly what you quoted. It wasn't even paraphrased.

      Why is every male feminist a sniveling imbecile? It's like you're required to be an irrational, childish dipshit in order to take up the task.

    49. Re: Emotional by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How do you get through life with a Forrest Gump IQ?

    50. Re: Emotional by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Manipulation is not the same as emotionality

    51. Re: Emotional by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The second study is merely about female preferences. They ask about certain behaviors, not the men themselves. So there's nothing to control for. There are no men of any status involved. Most likely, it's a feedback loop (causation happens in both directions). I'm not a social scientist, but I have published scientific works. You can't just waive your hands and say "they didn't control for X". Go read the paper if you want to critique the methodology.

    52. Re:Emotional by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 1

      Also, and this is the reason why he got fired, that difference is minor and the author of the study he cited for it has said publicly that the conclusion it affects women's performance in or preference for engineering jobs is unwarranted.

      Well, that's definitive. I mean, it's not like you could get fired for saying that it does affect anything ...

    53. Re: Emotional by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ernest Tupes and Raymond Christal aren't exactly Japanese women at first sight, but hey I respect your opinion

    54. Re:Emotional by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      Also, and this is the reason why he got fired, that difference is minor and the author of the study he cited for it has said publicly that the conclusion it affects women's performance in or preference for engineering jobs is unwarranted.

      The average differences are quite small. The differences on the extremes are significantly pronounced - that's how this kind of math works out.

      You should go read the studies about the impact of gender-egalitarian policies on the career choices of men and women in Scandinavia. The results are not what the authors 'wanted' to find.

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    55. Re:Emotional by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      I've read those studies, have you? They didn't "want" to find anything. The follow up studies have mostly found the reasons for the results seen, and they appear to be cultural.

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    56. Re: Emotional by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly, who other than straight white males are going to protect straight white males self endowed sense of superiority

    57. Re:Emotional by quenda · · Score: 1

      No, except that culture reflects nature.
      Sexual differences in personality and preference in occupational activities appear to be hard wired, and cross-cultural. Cross-species even - we see similar sexual dimorphism in other primates.

      It can be observed from an early age in the toys and activities that children use. As they get older and more socially conditioned, the sexual differences become smaller, not greater. Women like people, men like things. (talking tendency in averages of course, if that does not do without saying)

    58. Re:Emotional by AmiMoJo · · Score: 0

      If it is cross cultural how do you explain places like Iran where more than half the STEM graduates are female? How about China where there is a much higher proportion of female engineers in the Shenzhen area than in most western countries?

      And how do you explain that in the US the number of women in CS peaked in the 80s and has declined since? The usual answer is that men are dumb and women got out of CS when it turned bad, but if you want to go with that I'd ask you to state where you think they went as an alternative to this relatively well paid career.

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    59. Re:Emotional by quenda · · Score: 1

      If it is cross cultural how do you explain places like Iran where more than half the STEM graduates are female? How about China

      Less gender equality and personal freedom in those countries. More equality and freedom means men and women are more able to make choices and express their differences.

      https://www.theatlantic.com/sc...

      But: Gender disparities in science and engineering in Chinese universities:
      https://www.sciencedirect.com/...

    60. Re:Emotional by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      You are arguing that gender inequality somehow forces more women into studying STEM, leading to better paid jobs and more opportunities? Are you suggesting that men are the ones being oppressed in Iran?

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    61. Re: Emotional by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      Better just to go fishing. Monthly fishing trip!

      Proximity axiom: Pussy makes you crazy. Think how crazy the relatively little bit you get makes you, woman are attached!

      Then understand: Good crazy and bad crazy.

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    62. Re:Emotional by quenda · · Score: 1

      I'm looking at the data, instead of twisting it to fit my prejudices.
      I might hypothesise that in Iran or China, parents contribute more to the choice of field of study, compared to Scandinavia.
      Greater freedom of choice by young people leads to greater expression of their differing preferences.

    63. Re:Emotional by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      So you agree with me? Your theory is that it's a social issue, particularly parental influence.

      That being the case, why do you assume that in Scandinavian countries there is less influence, not more? That is in direct opposition to what studies looking at this question found.

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    64. Re:Emotional by quenda · · Score: 1

      I think I have made myself clear. But Amimojo, I've read your posts and no idea what you really think.
      Do you believe sexual dimorphism in humans stops at the neck?
      What intrinsic differences are there between men and women?
      Do you believe that male domination of records in sport is due to biological causes, or it it oppression of female athletes?
      What about chess?

    65. Re:Emotional by AmiMoJo · · Score: 0

      Of course there are many differences between men and women. But probably not as many as people think.

      As for chess... Well there are female chess grand masters who manage to beat the best men. It's impossible to know if excluding all other factors there would be no differences between the genders in that game, because we can't run that experiment, but so far no-one has put forward a compelling reason to suggest that there would be.

      Which brings us back to engineering and Damore. In that case there actually is some evidence - women used to be more involved the field of CS, but there has been a decline since the mid 90s. Any explanation of the disparity in participation has to explain that to be credible.

      It's hard to tell if Damore was well intentioned. His memo seems that way, but then his later comments on the subject suggest otherwise. I'm really looking forward to the lawsuit, but I worry that the case he has put forward so far is extremely weak and seems to focus more on the behaviour of other staff rather than a defence of his memo.

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    66. Re: Emotional by dcw3 · · Score: 1

      If females are supposedly more emotional than man, why do men commit much more suicides?

      Because the females drive them crazy.

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    67. Re:Emotional by dcw3 · · Score: 1

      "Which brings us back to engineering and Damore. In that case there actually is some evidence - women used to be more involved the field of CS, but there has been a decline since the mid 90s. Any explanation of the disparity in participation has to explain that to be credible."

      This is just my personal observation so clearly not scientific...

      I did my first coding back in the early 70s, and it seemed at the time to be a fairly even mix of men and women. As AmiMoJo stated, there was clearly a drop off of females in CS starting in the 90s. Speaking to some of the women I knew early on, I was told things like..."I got into engineering because of the money", and "I don't touch computers when I leave the office"...that was back in the day, and lead me to think their hearts weren't really in it. Not always the case, but certainly a not insignificant percentage of them. Also, as the internet came into common use, much more of the development work became sweatshop efforts, with long hours leaving little family time. And in my experience as a hiring manager who needs people 24/7/365, females appear to be less inclined to put in odd hours and holiday work. Once CS became mostly a boys club, women also seem to become less interested in being one of a few or maybe the only female in a dev lab.

      Just my $.02, I wish I could find more women to hire...I interview every one of them that puts forward a reasonable resume. I'm hopeful that we're not beyond changing the situation, but I wonder if it's too late now.

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    68. Re:Emotional by AmiMoJo · · Score: 0

      The "flamebait" mod needs to be renamed to ***triggered snowflake***.

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  2. Me and my llama by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    going to the dentist today.

  3. In other news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Water is wet

    1. Re:In other news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Water is wet

      You know what else is wet? Of course you do.

  4. Because it has blood on it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bloody

    What is it?

  5. Re:Only if they have itty bitty titties by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, that maybe, and the fact they might never be as pretty as the porn stars the sorry excuses for men are wanking to. If they saw how worthless their ideal man actually is they might get their feet back under them and move on with a positive life. The best way to find a solid person is to be one.

  6. They're not by rsilvergun · · Score: 5, Informative

    females show more emotion then men, they don't necessarily _have_ more emotion. This means men have to keep it bottled up ("Stiff Upper lip and all that rot!") until they snap.

    You get what you measure, and you get what you _can_ measure. It's hard to measure emotional responses from a person actively trying to hide them. Conversely it's easier to measure those responses from people encouraged to show their emotions.

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    1. Re:They're not by alvinrod · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It's not a matter of showing more emotion, it's that if you measure the negative emotion personality trait (referred to as neuroticism in the psychology literature) then females score higher than men. The limbic cortex in the female brain is larger and better connected to the other regions of the brain, which may explain those observations. The presence of testosterone has also been identified in playing a role in how the human brain regulates emotions. Generally this means that women are better (faster) at processing emotions and have an easier time identifying emotions in others.

      The parent is also incorrect. Women attempt suicide more often than men, and depending on the report you'll see figures indicating somewhere between twice and three times as much. However, men have a much higher suicide rate, in part because of the methods they use (gun, hanging) are more effective.

    2. Re:They're not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You dumb anti science fuck.
      They on average have more emotion than men.
      There are study after study showing this.

    3. Re:They're not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Women "attempt" suicide to cry out for help. Men "attempt" suicide to end their lives.

    4. Re: They're not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bullshit psychology studies maybe, with a 50% replication rate and probably tiny effect sizes

    5. Re:They're not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can you please provide references to some of these studies and moreover provide a basic scientific definition of emotion? I'd be curious to know why on earth anybody would suggest that men are less emotional than women. Now if your argument is that there are sex differences in the proclivity to experience certain emotions or even certain categories of emotion I'm all on board with your conjecture. However, the idea that either men or women "have more emotion", act more emotionally, experience more emotion, or any other such theory seems contrary to every persons continual experience of what are more or less physiological and neurobiological realities of existence. When pray tell are you in a state that is not an emotional one? If I self-reflect at any given moment in life I may be calm, or anxious, or contented, bored, lonely, happy, sad, among many others and many combinations. Even at this moment as I attempt an objective criticism of your post I'm certainly experiencing an emotion and making reasoned arguments that reflect my own emotional state and appeal to the emotions of anyone who might read this. Does it not occur to you that when you begin a comment with "You dumb anti science fuck" that you are boldly expressing emotion which the rest of us can immediately recognize as disgust, anger, contempt, or the like?

    6. Re:They're not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All suicide attempts are cries out for help.

    7. Re:They're not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      females show more emotion then men, they don't necessarily _have_ more emotion. This means men have to keep it bottled up ("Stiff Upper lip and all that rot!") until they snap.

      You get what you measure, and you get what you _can_ measure. It's hard to measure emotional responses from a person actively trying to hide them. Conversely it's easier to measure those responses from people encouraged to show their emotions.

      Since you tried to convince me that the female creature isn't more emotional, I'm not really inclined to believe your theories. Perhaps you should spend more time around women. They can be emotional for no reason whatsoever.

    8. Re:They're not by Kjella · · Score: 1

      All suicide attempts are cries out for help.

      Not really, at least not from the person's own perspective. Sometimes they don't inherently want to die, but feel their situation is so terrible they can't get the necessary attention any other way. This is presumably often the case with people with a history of lesser self-harm, they take it one step too far and actually die. It's like an adrenaline junkie trying increasingly extreme stunts, technically not seeking death but taking it to the edge. Other times there's nothing to be done, like in Terry Pratchett: Choosing to die they talk to Andrew Colgan who did try to take his own life before getting euthanasia, because he has a crippling disease that's getting worse. Some people are like that mentally too, they did get all meaningful help but are just broken inside and want it to end.

      Remember suicides are a mixed bunch. You have all the people who commit a rash suicide over heartbreak or something like that, that really just need to take their life in a different direction. You have the people who feel like everything is pitch black, even if they have fame, money, love and no objective reason. You have the people who've suffered through terrible traumas like physical and sexual abuse, war and terror. I know some people think everything can be fixed but talking to a psychologist isn't exactly a guaranteed cure you won't wake every night screaming from your nightmares. In fact, some seem to fear failing more than succeeding and make like really, really sure. Of course you don't hear much about those because they're all dead, the stories all come from those who "failed".

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    9. Re:They're not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Women attempt suicide more often than men.... However, men have a much higher suicide rate, in part because ... are more effective.

      This is so subtly sexist... Implies that women are incompetent even at taking their own lives.

    10. Re:They're not by Nivag064 · · Score: 1

      So any time someone states a genuine difference between males & women, they are being sexist???

      You are being way too simplistic, the comment you object to has little to do with competence, as other people have covered in more detail.

    11. Re:They're not by ArylAkamov · · Score: 1

      Women attempt suicide more often than men.... However, men have a much higher suicide rate, in part because ... are more effective.

      This is so subtly sexist... Implies that women are incompetent even at taking their own lives.

      It's not implying, that's just a fact.

    12. Re:They're not by dcw3 · · Score: 1

      All suicide attempts are cries out for help.

      Nonsense. People with chronic unmanageable pain often chose that path. I had this discussion long ago with my spouse, saying that if I were in a position where my quality of life had deteriorated to the point that I would never be able to get out of bed, that I would prefer to end it. This is a conscious decision made before the fact in my case.

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    13. Re:They're not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Women attempt suicide more often than men.... However, men have a much higher suicide rate, in part because ... are more effective.

      This is so subtly sexist... Implies that women are incompetent even at taking their own lives.

      It's not implying, that's just a fact.

      SJWs can't handle the truth.

  7. And in other news by gweihir · · Score: 1

    Using social media for several hours a day is pathological behavior already by itself.

    I mean 1...3 hours/day as "normal" and >5h/day as the group that has a problem is pretty insane.

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    1. Re:And in other news by dunkelfalke · · Score: 1

      Meh, I am perfectly well able to have a depression without using any social media.

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    2. Re:And in other news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Meh, I am perfectly well able to have a depression without using any social media.

      With me it never gets beyond a recession.

    3. Re:And in other news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This was my thought too. The "only 1-3 hours" part really stoody out to me. I can't imagine wasting 3+ hours a day on social media. I use it relatively little and it already depresses me. 3+ hours would be like batheing in emotional acid.

    4. Re:And in other news by gweihir · · Score: 1

      Like your sig. Seems to sum up most of the followers pretty well.

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    5. Re:And in other news by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 1

      Meh, I am perfectly well able to have a depression without using any social media.

      I know, right?

      Pfft, amateurs.

    6. Re:And in other news by dunkelfalke · · Score: 1

      Yep. Found that little gem in a discussion on "the Guardian" and since Slashdot is full of conservative kiddies these days I instantly knew I would piss them off with this sig. Never had so many enemies here before that, hehe.

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  8. Re:Only if they have itty bitty titties by techno-vampire · · Score: 1, Interesting

    This is why girls, especially in that age group, carry their school books across their chests. Either they think their breasts aren't big enough and want to hide them, or they think they're too big and all the boys will be staring at them. (This isn't guesswork; I once asked a woman about it and that's what she told me.)

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  9. Trump by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Trump is sad when he reads social media as well.

  10. OMG i forgot to click like for like 5 min by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 3, Informative

    My life is over!!!!!

    Best advice ever: don't ever buy kids anything other than a flip phone and set it so it can't send texts

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    1. Re:OMG i forgot to click like for like 5 min by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Yeah right, just like teaching abstinence reduces pregnancy rates (hint: it increases pregnancy rates). You can try all you want but the kid will find a way to get or use a normal phone. All you're doing is making them have to hide the behavior which means they're even more likely to have issues.

      You can't change the world and the world is all about handheld computing devices right now. Better to teach responsible use because they're going to have to use tech at some point in life.

    2. Re:OMG i forgot to click like for like 5 min by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Not being able to properly participate in their friend's social circle due to lack of a phone/chat apps will hurt them.

      Why not try talking to them about it, and about body image?

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    3. Re:OMG i forgot to click like for like 5 min by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So now, them having a social circle requires a several hundred dollar phone and ongoing monthly phone bills. Got it. What is so good about being in a social circle continuously? What's bad about it? Oh right, that's the topic of this entire article.

  11. How else does this relate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Does this have any correlation to the metoo movement? Real question, not a snarky comment.

  12. Emotional -@conservatism online victimstance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wah, the mean liberal made me shut down the gobmint and Obama lost my coal job to China waaaaaaaaaah, why won't women let me grope them without paying? It's not fair! I wanna insult everybody, stop persecuting me!

    -@conservatism online

  13. SMAD by epine · · Score: 1

    Why doesn't this rampant condition have a formal name yet?

    Social Media Affective Disorder is practically screaming from the womb.

    1. Re:SMAD by dcw3 · · Score: 1

      Considering your post is now three days old w/o any replies, I think the screaming is going unheard.

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  14. So sick of fucking gender gap by 2ms · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Everything in the fucking world is about this stupid fucking gender gap shit. Is there not a single site I can go to which isn't infected with this crap? If there's a "gender gap" and females are more negatively affected then it's a disaster and something needs to be done. If there's a "gender gap" and males are doing worse then there's no problem at all and maybe even a sign of progress. What a bunch of toxic shit. Let's just do what we can to help HUMANS. Stop dividing everyone, pitting everyone against each other, and generally finding any conceivable way we can to create civil war. Jesus christ people. I've had it.

    1. Re:So sick of fucking gender gap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Women bitch, nag and manipulate like they're breathing. News at 11.

    2. Re:So sick of fucking gender gap by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 3, Informative

      In the charmingly titled "When You Can't Throw All Men Into The Ocean And Start Over, What CAN You Do? Ijeoma Oluo - the mother of two boys, God help them - writes,

      "This society is doing everything it can to create rapists, to enable rapists, and to protect rapists. This society is broken, abusive, patriarchal (and white supremacist, ableist, hetero-cisnormative) trash. This entire patriarchal society is responsible for every single sexual assault that occurs."

      https://medium.com/@anthoknees/women-have-a-right-to-hate-men-df41b4de3842

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    3. Re:So sick of fucking gender gap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I think what this study illustrates is that there are intrinsic gender differences that ought to be better understood and explored, rather than suppressed, ignored, or dismissed as products of socialization.

    4. Re:So sick of fucking gender gap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I find it ironic that your post complains about articles that report a gender gap, while simultaneously BEING a report of a gender gap. YOUR gender gap report is about how the reaction is much stronger when gender gaps harm women than when they harm men. And you are complaining about this gender gap.

      Sounds like you are part of the problem.

    5. Re:So sick of fucking gender gap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... [medium.com]

      A black homosexual man-gina claiming women suffer because of his masculinity is well-placed to make such claims: But his monologue is identical to '60s political feminism whinging women have no responsibilities because "Women cannot escape patriarchy". Like all man-bashing, it ignores parts of socialization that demands men are treated much, much worse than women.

    6. Re: So sick of fucking gender gap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... What? They did a study. Women were affected differently from men. They reported the results. Some people may find said results interesting, some may not.

      If the study had been about Python and C++, would you be complaining about the "programming language gap"?

    7. Re:So sick of fucking gender gap by Nivag064 · · Score: 1

      Everything in the fucking world is about this stupid fucking gender gap shit. Is there not a single site I can go to which isn't infected with this crap? If there's a "gender gap" and females are more negatively affected then it's a disaster and something needs to be done. If there's a "gender gap" and males are doing worse then there's no problem at all and maybe even a sign of progress. What a bunch of toxic shit. Let's just do what we can to help HUMANS. Stop dividing everyone, pitting everyone against each other, and generally finding any conceivable way we can to create civil war. Jesus christ people. I've had it.

      Well there are differences between men & women in many areas that are statistically significant. These are due to biological, cultural, and other causes. Unfortunately, a lot of political agendas confuse the issue (just look at the issue of marital violence -- it is a very real problem, leading to many people being seriously hurt).

      This causes at least 3 types of problems:

      (1) People who insist that there are no differences, either due to ignorance or ideology (or both). This leads to stupid things like insisting that exactly half of the students in computer science classes should be female (by the way, my wife has an MSc in Computer Science), or that 50% of nurses should be male ( I suspect most people, of any gender, would prefer most nurses to be female!).

      (2) People who insist that a particular gender can't or shouldn't do something, This is almost invariable due to cultural bias. However, sometimes there is a valid scientific basis: women are more susceptible to alcohol per Kg, and the dangers to an unborn child are greatest shortly after conception when the woman may not realize that she maybe pregnant -- so women need to take more care for health reasons (don't know of any gender difference relating to alcohol induced anti social behaviour -- though I'm not saying that there isn't a difference).

      (3) People who insist that a particular gender is superior to the other. Note that even if one gender is statistically superior to the other in one quality, it does not necessarily follow that all individuals of one gender are better than the other (I even been wiped of the chess board by an old woman who was probably at least 30 years older than myself, and I can easily thrash most social Chess players).

    8. Re:So sick of fucking gender gap by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      (1) People who insist that there are no differences

      That's pretty rare. I mean I'm sure you can find them but you can find flat-earther's too so there's not much to be found cherrypicking nutters.

      This leads to stupid things like insisting that exactly half of the students in computer science classes should be female

      Like when? What we do know is there was a dramatic drp down from about 37% in the early 1980s. Biology doesn't change significantly over the course of 1 generation.

      or that 50% of nurses should be male

      There are no significant voices saying that.

      ( I suspect most people, of any gender, would prefer most nurses to be female!)

      Why on earth would people care? Especially as the majority of people are tending towards overweight or obese and one job of nurses is to move people who can't move themselves easily. At some point that requires upper body strength.

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    9. Re:So sick of fucking gender gap by serviscope_minor · · Score: 3, Insightful

      This post is just incoherent.

      Let's just do what we can to help HUMANS.

      There are two choices here:

      1. There's no difference at all between men and women. Therefore any gaps are due to bias and those need fixing.

      2. There are differences in wich case it's really stupid to pretend they don't exist.

      . I've had it.

      Bye bye then. Go find another forum which doesn't hurt your feelings with scientific studies.

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    10. Re: So sick of fucking gender gap by c6gunner · · Score: 1

      Like when? What we do know is there was a dramatic drp down from about 37% in the early 1980s. Biology doesn't change significantly over the course of 1 generation.

      Biology doesn't have to; societal factors are sufficient. People - men and women - don't just pick careers based on what they're good at or interested in; they also consider things like opportunity, cost, social standing, stabiliy, etc. Early on women were overrepresented in computing because they had few other good opportunities. It didn't mean that women were better at it than men. The percentage had already dropped significantly by the 80s, and it continued to drop as our societies became more equal in opportunity.

      or that 50% of nurses should be male

      There are no significant voices saying that.

      I noticed that you didn't say there are no significant voices saying that women should be 50% of computer scientists though.

    11. Re: So sick of fucking gender gap by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      I noticed that you didn't say there are no significant voices saying that women should be 50% of computer scientists though.

      Yes I did, specifically I said "like when" in response to the original claim. You even fucking quoted it.

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    12. Re:So sick of fucking gender gap by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      This is just dumb, from a pure engineering standpoint. If you noticed that one tyre on a car was getting excessive wear, it would be idiotic to demand that in the name of equality a solution for all four tyres is found. An engineer will try to identify what differentiates that tyre and address the issue.

      More over, often by identifying these differences you get some insight that helps the less affected group too. Maybe you find that there is an issue with the suspension, and gain greater understanding of what causes tyre wear, and how to extend the life of our all four.

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    13. Re:So sick of fucking gender gap by 2ms · · Score: 1

      What is an "INCEL"?

    14. Re:So sick of fucking gender gap by 2ms · · Score: 1

      What the hell are you talking about? Men and women are obviously very different from one another. Thank god. Now let's treat everyone the same. Stop dividing everyone. Stop inventing conflict and pitting people against each other. Let's work together.

    15. Re:So sick of fucking gender gap by swillden · · Score: 1

      (1) People who insist that there are no differences

      That's pretty rare. I mean I'm sure you can find them but you can find flat-earther's too so there's not much to be found cherrypicking nutters.

      It's really not rare at all among people on the left, if you're talking about differences above the neck. Many insist that all cognitive and emotional differences among men and women are due to socialization, and that if boys and girls were treated identically we would see no differences whatsoever in non-physical abilities and inclinations.

      Even people who will readily concede that we see large differences in other species deny that there can be any in our own, and insist that any that we see are due to social pressures/structures.

      This is mostly ideological, and it has an obvious historical origin. Given that past generations have used claims of gender and race-based biological differences to justify all sorts of horrendous oppression, there's a tendency to be wary of any arguments for such differences, on the theory that it's a small step from accepting differences to using them to discriminate in ways that negatively impact individuals and groups.

      This leads to stupid things like insisting that exactly half of the students in computer science classes should be female

      Like when? What we do know is there was a dramatic drp down from about 37% in the early 1980s. Biology doesn't change significantly over the course of 1 generation.

      Clearly not. That change must be due to changes either in what people do in those courses or in how they're treated/perceived by society. Note that the names changed during that period, from "informatics" and "data processing" to "computer science", "software engineering" and "computer engineering".

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    16. Re:So sick of fucking gender gap by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      It's really not rare at all among people on the left,

      Yes it is. I've nt actually ever met a person who has said this. Never. Not once.

      the fact you've already dragged politice into this as "the left", while applying sweeping generalisations says to me that you're far more interested in banging a partisan drum than actually having anything approaching a sensible discussion.

      Many insist that all cognitive and emotional differences among men and women are due to socialization, and that if boys and girls were treated identically we would see no differences whatsoever in non-physical abilities and inclinations.

      Nope, never actually heard anyone say that. I'm sure you can find someone on the internet who has. That's the nice thing about the internet, you can find someone to say almost anything or even find a whole community of people to say anything.

      What I have heard people say is that the differences are probably much smaller than the socialisation aspect, there's much more variance and treating differently simply because of their gender tends to enforce social based differences.

      Even people who will readily concede that we see large differences in other species deny that there can be any in our own, and insist that any that we see are due to social pressures/structures

      That qualifies as "not even wrong". Other species are to various degrees anywhere between interesting and utterly irrelevant. Female anglerfish abosrb males and carry what remains arond as balls, giving (ironically) female angler fish more testicles than anything else. Clearly that means women are unsuited to computer science.

      Then there's that dubious one about boy monkeys and toy cars or somesuch which has a bearing apparently because monkeys of that sort have no particular affinity for tools so it shows men like tools more?

      What I have seen is people insist that certain culturally enforced things are innate despite other cultures having it the other way around.

      The thing is you don't know which are cultural and which are innate. Humans are very malleable and it's very, very hard to separate out the differences. cute little just-so stories are not a substitute for actual knowledge.

      This is mostly ideological,

      Your claim is mostly ideological. Very few people actually believe that. Bonus points if you can cherry pick a few out of the 4 billion or so people on the internet.

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    17. Re:So sick of fucking gender gap by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      Men and women are obviously very different from one another. Thank god. Now let's treat everyone the same.

      If man and women are obviously very different then why on earth should we treat them the same? That makes no sense.

      As for the obviousness, well that's up for debate as well.

      Stop dividing everyone.

      You literally just said that men and women are obviously very different from one another. Perhaps you are the one who needs to stop dividing people.

      Let's work together.

      You're not interested in that. You are trying to pretend that you are innocent of all things (interesting since no one accused you of anything) while trying to take the moral high ground on an incoherent position.

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    18. Re: So sick of fucking gender gap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At least it would be relevant to this site.

    19. Re:So sick of fucking gender gap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm glad bigotry has a pure justification.

    20. Re: So sick of fucking gender gap by c6gunner · · Score: 1

      I must have misinterpreted that. In that case you're just being willfully obtuse.

    21. Re: So sick of fucking gender gap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Idiocy too strong. Can't tell if sarcasm.

    22. Re:So sick of fucking gender gap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People aren't tires or cars or other inanimate objects. Funny how in a post trying to show how this is about helping people, you demonstrate the opposite by making an analogy that objectifies people down to simple parts in a machine.

    23. Re:So sick of fucking gender gap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes it is. I've nt actually ever met a person who has said this. Never. Not once.

      Just because you never saw it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. You're thinking like some climate denier who insists global warming isn't real because he never saw it himself.

      the fact you've already dragged politice into this

      Everything is political, my friend. If we want to go all "don't drag politics into this", well then stories like TFA are guilty of it too, dragging politics into social media.

      Ditto all those other stories about the economy, climate change, globalization, automation, AI, etc.

      while applying sweeping generalisations

      He didn't apply sweeping generalizations though. You use that word (generalization). I don't think it means what you think it means.

      says to me that you're far more interested in banging a partisan drum than actually having anything approaching a sensible discussion.

      Note your own words: "says to me[you]". You're just TELLING YOURSELF that he's a partisan hack. He's not the one avoiding sensible discussion. You are the one telling yourself he's not worthy of having one with you.

      Looking at your post history, that's really a theme with you. You try really hard to come up with an excuse that the other person must not be sincere, so that you don't have to take them seriously.

      And then you wonder why there's so few serious discussions. It's a very dangerous self fulfilling prophecy.

    24. Re: So sick of fucking gender gap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thank you

    25. Re: So sick of fucking gender gap by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      Right. Me not blindly agreeing with your flagrantly exaggerated/outright false claims is me being "wiillfully obtuse". LOL.

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    26. Re:So sick of fucking gender gap by Nivag064 · · Score: 1

      (1) People who insist that there are no differences

      That's pretty rare. I mean I'm sure you can find them but you can find flat-earther's too so there's not much to be found cherrypicking nutters.

      This leads to stupid things like insisting that exactly half of the students in computer science classes should be female

      Like when? What we do know is there was a dramatic drp down from about 37% in the early 1980s. Biology doesn't change significantly over the course of 1 generation.

      or that 50% of nurses should be male

      There are no significant voices saying that.

      ( I suspect most people, of any gender, would prefer most nurses to be female!)

      Why on earth would people care? Especially as the majority of people are tending towards overweight or obese and one job of nurses is to move people who can't move themselves easily. At some point that requires upper body strength.

      One place I worked there was female colleague I chatted with occasionally. She was, as far I can remember technically competent -- and definitely feminine. I remember talking to her husband who claimed there was no difference between men & women. I've never met anyone who insists the world is flat. I made no comment on how frequent problem (1) was.

      Your comment wrt Computer Science, is not relevant to what I stated. I made no comment about percentages of females vs males in Computer Science. I also pointed out earlier, that there other forces at work aside from biology.

      Your comment wrt Nurses. The number of people who are very vocal about an issue, tends to be considerably less than the number of people who have a particular preference. Also, I made no comment to suggest that there should be no male nurses (note that the word 'most' is not a synonym for the word 'all'). So your comments here are either irrelevant and/or fallacious.

    27. Re:So sick of fucking gender gap by Nivag064 · · Score: 1

      I'm glad bigotry has a pure justification.

      Hmm... People can infer bigotry where none exists.

      In New Zealand, a few years back, a researcher was concerned about the prevalence of an antisocial disease in a particular ethnic group, and was trying to propose reasonable remedial action to help reduce the incidence of the disease. He got accused of being racist, as though merely identifying a problem area, was bigotry.

      If you fell into a pile of shit, and someone said "You're all shitty, let us help clean you up." Would you accuse them of being insulting, or would you graciously accept help???

    28. Re:So sick of fucking gender gap by dcw3 · · Score: 1

      I even been wiped of the chess board by an old woman who was probably at least 30 years older than myself

      Anecdote...
      Had to laugh at your comment there. I played my first chess tournament in DC back in '82 with around 300 other people. While I was in the registration line, talking to the man behind me, we both noticed a woman about ten yards away from us, who was talking to herself with her head down and holding a coffee cup. When she looked up, she saw us and said, "don't mind me, I'm just writing letters", and proceeded to talk with us for the next couple minutes. During that time, I noticed she was sipping from an empty coffee cup. Of those people, who do you suppose I played in my very first ever tournament game?...Joan Slilch (sp?), who was at the time one of the top USCF rated women. And yes, she crushed me.

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    29. Re:So sick of fucking gender gap by dcw3 · · Score: 1

      Why on earth would people care? Especially as the majority of people are tending towards overweight or obese and one job of nurses is to move people who can't move themselves easily. At some point that requires upper body strength.

      Having spent a lot of time in nursing homes with my mom over the last several years, I found that they have no trouble moving patients with a lifting device http://www.hoyerlift.com/

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    30. Re:So sick of fucking gender gap by Nivag064 · · Score: 1

      I even been wiped of the chess board by an old woman who was probably at least 30 years older than myself

      Anecdote...
      Had to laugh at your comment there. I played my first chess tournament in DC back in '82 with around 300 other people. While I was in the registration line, talking to the man behind me, we both noticed a woman about ten yards away from us, who was talking to herself with her head down and holding a coffee cup. When she looked up, she saw us and said, "don't mind me, I'm just writing letters", and proceeded to talk with us for the next couple minutes. During that time, I noticed she was sipping from an empty coffee cup. Of those people, who do you suppose I played in my very first ever tournament game?...Joan Slilch (sp?), who was at the time one of the top USCF rated women. And yes, she crushed me.

      Well the old woman was toothless and looked a bit gaga. If you had seen her in a cafe, most people would never have thought she could play chess, let alone be able to beat most Club Players!

      I could imagine her in a film, where she was the leader of a band of guerillas pretending to be harmless illiterate old woman providing tea&cakes to the enemy general, while taking careful note of their strategic intentions ...

  15. "the types of things that girls and boys do" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's almost as if boys and girls are different.
    But the manhating ecucation and media systems tell us that's not true ?!

    Can the gender-quota feminazis possibly be ... totally wrong ?!

  16. Yeah, basic facts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Women are more social and higher in negative emotions. They rely much more heavily on others for their status and self worth

    This has been known for a long time, contemporary society likes to play dumb about it though

  17. Re:FTFY, quoted the wiki properly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I hope you get some help. It's not healthy to be so full of rage.

  18. Anything and Depression in Teenage Girls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The link between *anything* and depression is strongest in teenage girls. And oh, in the female to whatever-the-hell transgender crowd, who I admit are at even higher risks of suicide than teenage girls. The boys don't get as depressed if they're not cast out of their age groups for acting male.

  19. Re:^^ Wow, found the suicidal INCEL, yikes! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hey moron, the "IN" in "INCEL" stands for "involuntary." So, by definition, nobody ever decides to become "full INCEL."

    Not that you care. Smart people who care about things like logical consistency, and what words actually mean, don't write posts like the one you wrote.

  20. That can't be right! by grasshoppa · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I've been assured that gender is merely a social construct. If so, how is there a gender gap?

    Shitlord scientists using their science...literally hitlers.

    LITERALLY.

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    1. Re:That can't be right! by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      I've been assured that gender is merely a social construct.

      I don't hold with that idea, but many, MANY of the trappings of it are. Girls/pink boys/blue which seems deeply ingrained flipped 100 years ago. Men not having close, emptionally intimate relationships with men where they talk about feelings is a recent invention much to the detriment of men (go read some old letter collections betwen men).

      The thing about men being sex-beasts always wanting it and women being pure and innocent. That also flipped, many cultures of Antiquity thought the exact opposite was true. Seems to be an Abrahamic thing.

      Men being good with tools? Just my personal observation but given how awful the average dude is with tools, I'd lose all faith in humanity if that qualified as "good". Most people suck with tools, but men have a tendency to charge in and make a bigger mess because there are a lot of unfair expectations about how they should already know what they're doing.

      If so, how is there a gender gap?

      Let's say we take the premise that gender is a social construct for the purposes of an if. That, you know the social aspect, can go as far as banning one gender from a certain field of endeavour (as was commom even in the 1970s in the US).

      And you don't see how there could be a gap? Astonishing.

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    2. Re:That can't be right! by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      I've been assured that gender is merely a social construct.

      Because every other definition is flawed.

      Feel free to try it. Define gender any other way you like and I'll point out the flaws in it.

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    3. Re:That can't be right! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In my small study (1 man, 3 women) the men with tools things holds.

    4. Re:That can't be right! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A definition is a social construct. The answer to "I don't like the definition" isn't "remove the definition."

    5. Re:That can't be right! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because every other definition is flawed.

      Drink! AmiMojo engages in whataboutism, bringing every other definition to distract the fact that his favorite definition is flawed as well!

    6. Re: That can't be right! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Assured by whom? You guys sure like your strawmen.

    7. Re:That can't be right! by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      Is it me or do these threads get WAAYYY more whiny AC replies than just about any other thread?

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    8. Re:That can't be right! by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Hay man, how's it going? You disappeared for a while there, I was getting worried.

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    9. Re:That can't be right! by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      It's one of the oldest rational tropes, back when it was mostly about anti-feminism and less alt-light.

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    10. Re:That can't be right! by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      Hay man, how's it going? You disappeared for a while there, I was getting worried.

      I think he may have been nursing an awesome hangover.

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    11. Re:That can't be right! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Was on vacation, but I'm glad you also realize that AmiMojo acts like a Russian troll so often it could lead to hangovers.

    12. Re:That can't be right! by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Disagreeing = Russian troll trying to stir up unrest, amirite?

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    13. Re:That can't be right! by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      I am terrible, aren't I... It's actually quote encouraging that they respond with more than just name calling and accusations like some other AC stalkers do. This one is actually engaged enough to comprehend my statements on some primitive level, and has a more or less coherent response based some some kind of (wrong) political philosophy.

      A cut above the average AC.

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    14. Re:That can't be right! by bingoUV · · Score: 1

      Gender is a grammatical construct. Sex is a scientific (as in biological) construct.

      Grammar is fundamentally debatable and descriptions of it are mostly flawed - so if you find all definitions of gender flawed you are not saying anything new.

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    15. Re:That can't be right! by squiggleslash · · Score: 1

      Gender is a grammatical construct

      Gender was once a grammatical construct. It became used as a descriptor for the behavioral side of sex once it became necessary to distinguish between the two. That word has been used for more than a century now with that definition.

      Sex is a scientific (as in biological) construct.

      There are more sciences than biology, so this is a silly statement to make. Sex is a biological construct. Scientists created the new definition of gender because they needed to discuss that too.

      Note though, amusingly, that sex isn't as clear cut as people who get all worked up about having more than two genders like to pretend it is. There are XX people born with XY plumbing and vice versa. And, of course, you get things like XXY and other combinations that aren't XX or XY. The body is weird. The brain is weird. I would have thought that was obvious, and most people would go for a live and let live approach if they don't understand it, but for some reason, here on Slashdot, acknowledging something that the majority of scientists agree with and that's actually beautiful in its way is thoughtcrime.

      Or maybe it's just a whole bunch of pissed off programmers annoyed we can't have an easily validateable "gender" or "sex" field in our forms and databases.

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    16. Re: That can't be right! by bingoUV · · Score: 1

      No, it would have been a silly statement to make if biology were the only science. Since there are more, I made it clear that biology is the science in question. E.g. since science is always science, it is silly to say :
      Sex is a scientific (as in scientific) construct.

      Other than that, I see nothing to reply in your post as I don't think you've understood the context of the post.

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  21. Re:Only if they have itty bitty titties by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wow! You talked to a woman? Impressive! And that settles any lingering doubt anyone may still have about this. I am just now re-running J. Giles Band's (My Angel Is a) "Centerfold" and the girls there, all playmates, have books held close to the breasts as the strut and splay their saddle shoes down the classrom aisles. Corroboration then? I say, YES! YES! Oh, YESSS! Of what, I don't know, but YES! Oh, YES!!

  22. You like wordz? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You like words and their meanings? OK, besides being hideously ugly, every other "reason" you asshats claim forces you be involuntarily celibate is 100% pure choice on your part. A choice is not "involuntary". LERN WERDZ. Stop being an asshole. Get a god damned job. Take some personal responsibility. Make some fucking money. Get a house. Stop being a god damned pussy. You're here whining and playing a victim. That is not manly. You DO NOT get to reap the rewards of being a man until you act like one, cuck. In the meantime, I'll be fuckin all the hos cause they like that money I drop all over the place, brokeass. GIT GUD.

  23. Thats why by AHuxley · · Score: 1

    wealthy and smart people limit all access to the new fad of "social media".

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  24. Computers are bad for you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    News at 11. I wish my generation had been more firm and nipped this "digital revolution" nonsense in the bud back in the early '80s. As a teacher I have witnessed in person what those stupid boxes have done to our children. They have ushered in a wretched age of ignorance, dependence, bad manners, insubordination. The social cost in terms of jobs lost and insecurity has been catastrophic. People do not want to accept that technological progress is not true progress. Only social progress is. We pay the consequences for our timidity. If only we could have said "No to computers, no to the internet" back then.

  25. Five hours a day? by TJHook3r · · Score: 1

    If you are spending five hours a day on social media you are either depressed or have some other psychological condition! What's wrong with hanging around the shopping centre and spitting?!

    1. Re:Five hours a day? by dcw3 · · Score: 1

      What's wrong with hanging around the shopping centre and spitting?!

      spitting in a shopping centre?

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  26. Misogynist! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who's behind this study? Damore? Stop spreading harmful gender stereotypes! Google is not happy.

  27. WTF? by Qbertino · · Score: 1

    If anyone uses social media for 5 hours a day or more regularly, they already are depressed to begin with I'd say. Maybe boys just hide it better? There's a very plausible explanation right there.

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  28. Possible confounding factor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Girls tend to have more options to socialize IRL, and have more of a tendency to take them.

    So girls who go online for long periods of time are more likely to be the ones that are having problems IRL that link to depression, compared to boys.

  29. Link between social media and depression is by mark_reh · · Score: 1

    strongest in stupid people.

    Link between social media and stupid people is depressing for intelligent people.

  30. Re:Only if they have itty bitty titties by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 1

    Either they think their breasts aren't big enough and want to hide them, or they think they're too big and all the boys will be staring at them. (This isn't guesswork; I once asked a woman about it and that's what she told me.)

    And ... they'd likely be right.

  31. Re: Think of it as evolution in action by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Think of it as the algorithm will figure out a way to get you hooked sooner or later

  32. No difference, eh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I thought men and women were the same.

  33. OMG! by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

    the link between social media use and depressive symptoms in 14-year-olds may be much stronger for girls than boys.

    That's like soooooo unfair!

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  34. # Dvorak - From The New World by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

    In the old days we didn't have the internet. We had to make our own mental illnesses.

    Of course we didn't all them that. You were just a bit tapped, or not right in the head.

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  35. Re:Only if they have itty bitty titties by dcw3 · · Score: 1

    When you hold a stack of books and papers is it really an illogical way to hold them? I recall being scolded by other boys for holding things "like a girl". If what your female friend told you was true, they'd all be carrying books all the time.

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