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Google Says Assistant Will Be On a Billion Devices By the End of the Month, Up From Around 400 Million Devices Last Year (techcrunch.com)

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Days after Amazon revealed that 100 million Alexa-enabled devices have been sold, Google said today that it expects the billionth device with its AI Assistant to be sold later this month. From a report: Ahead of CES this morning, Google dropped a little stat update: Google expects Assistant to be on 1 billion devices total by the end of this month. That's up from around 400M devices this time a year ago. Google first announced Assistant back in May of 2016. By October of that year, they'd rolled it out to the Pixel/Pixel XL; nowadays, it's on TVs, smart speakers, tablets, smart watches, and just about every new Android phone that hits the market.

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  1. Its so hit-and-miss by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I used it on my phone for a few days. Mostly to text message people. It was really handy to be able to press a button & say "ok google, text message jim"

    But it only seems to work about 1/2 the time. Sometimes itll actually text message jim, and other times it will bring up web search results for the query "text message jim" which is not nearly as useful.

    1. Re:Its so hit-and-miss by aitikin · · Score: 2

      When was that? In 2016 I had issues like the web search results thing, but for at least the past year, the only problem I've had is sometimes it doesn't catch my comments because I have too many things going on on my phone (running too many apps/services on a 2 year old device). When I need it to work (driving) it's almost always been perfect.

      It's also rather useful when I can't take my hands off of what I'm doing (cooking for example) to start timers or double check my memory on how many tablespoons are in a cup (16) or teaspoons in a tablespoon (3). In that application, it's often picking up the wake word from me while playing a video and has been able to do that without issue about 75% of the time.

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  2. Stats I'd like to see..... by Killall+-9+Bash · · Score: 5, Insightful

    1. How many people USE assistant?
    2. How mnay people know they have it installed?

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    1. Re:Stats I'd like to see..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I use it quite a bit. Know a stat of one is pointless to mention but it is handy. If I need to call a business, I just squeeze the phone and say 'call such and such in my location' and it dials up the local number.

    2. Re:Stats I'd like to see..... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      It's useful in the car. If you decide to change destination, or need to make a detour, or want to see nearby chargers, you can just ask it. Sometimes it offers you alternative routes and you can just say yes or no.

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    3. Re:Stats I'd like to see..... by stealth_finger · · Score: 1

      1. How many people USE assistant? 2. How mnay people know they have it installed?

      1 No

      2 Yes

      This is basically just a count of android devices.

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    4. Re:Stats I'd like to see..... by grep+-v+'.*'+* · · Score: 1

      How many people USE assistant?

      Dunno, but I've got two Google Minis that I assume use it. I bought one on a lark, expecting to give them out as stupid joke Christmas presents with "Big Brother is Watching You" wrapping paper that I made.

      Within 3 days I was using it, in a week was actively using it for the time, weather, random info, and alarms. It's killer app for ME though is setting a reminder at a certain time -- where I don't have to find the phone and type and can spend 10 seconds to enter it without stopping what else I'm doing. Excellent for remembering things to do while going to sleep. And right now I'm listening to anime OSTs sent via YT. Even left a feedback or two via the mini for things that didn't work quite right.

      I've gone from "this is a stupid joke, ha!" to also buying WiFi Light Bulbs (!!) for my friends to be able to do something besides ask about the weather.

      Don't know if they'll use it or not but *I'M* sure a convert. (That being said, everything is configured for a manual fail-over mode, so if the internet goes does the lights and power outlets will still all work manually. None of this "Google/Amazon is down so I can't adjust my thermostat" bunk.)

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    5. Re:Stats I'd like to see..... by squiggleslash · · Score: 2

      3. How many people would just like reliable voice dialing, rather than "Hope the fucker understands my accent this time and doesn't consider my question vague enough for it to prompt with a new question that for some reason it'll not listen for an answer to"?

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    6. Re:Stats I'd like to see..... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Voice dialling works really well for me, but then again I don't have many friends so the number of possible names it has to match against is rather limited.

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    7. Re:Stats I'd like to see..... by AvitarX · · Score: 1

      I went the other way.

      I started with Hue bulbs, that felt really expensive at first but as time went on felt very much worth it (controlling color temperature and having my bedroom lights slowly turn on to wake me up was nice, I then added switches and lit the rest of the house), I got 2 home minis and a screen a week ago, and it's great.

      I feel stupid talking to it, but it's really nice having an integrated control all over my house to listen to podcasts as I wander, check the temperature, control the temperature, and the lights. Though things like the lights are a little bit of a nuisance.

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    8. Re:Stats I'd like to see..... by Shaitan · · Score: 1

      These are fair points. If you have Alexa you almost certainly intentionally paid for it. Is google counting phones?

      That said, Google seems to be winning this war and I've starting replacing Alexa around the house with Google devices.

      There are some issues though. First the app is horrible, the installed services is per user so it becomes highly fragmented. For instance I can't go in and remove phillips hue (which are more universally and seemlessly controlled via my home automation hub which GA can also talk to) because my wife initially installed it.

      The same becomes true of shopping lists. Normally we use a voice assistant device in the kitchen, when something is running low, we think of something we want to make, or are simply doing a check before going shopping we'd quickly tell the voice assistant to add those things to the shopping list. In this way the person going shopping will always know we are low on bread and pick it up. With GA by default everything goes in individual shopping lists instead of a shared list. We can change this but currently my little brother is staying with us and has an iphone and no google services, GA says it can't identify him and refuses to let him modify a list. Major usability problem.

      The GA devices don't seem to be aware of each other in the way you expect. With Alexa I can overlap the devices in such a way that the one which hears me best picks up what is being said and acts. Multiple devices sometimes activate with Google and the response is sometimes randomly shown on a different device than the one which actually picked it up. For instance, sometimes the GA built into the nvidia shield will display a response on the tv to something spoken to the device in the kitchen. Which is also an annoying function, it is actually a PIA to get rid of that pop-up which will disrupt content playing on the TV.

      Music doesn't resume automatically when you give the assistant a command. And the various third party services seem to have poor reliability. When I turn off a zwave light in the livingroom the GA recognizes the command properly 95% of the time which is good enough for me but it actually turns on/off that light maybe 30% of the time with no indication GA knows it failed. Given that the controller is on the LAN and nothing special happening at the times it refuses I have no explanation. Pressing a switch that sends a command to the controller consistently works when GA fails.

      That said, I can build GA integrated devices quite trivially and that is a huge win. So this is still the technology I'm going to support. Also, Amazon tends to be a heavily religion driven organization injecting its moral values into content and trying to exercise a closed and controlled platform rather than an open ecosystem which is just a bad long-term bet. Even if you don't care, developers do.

    9. Re:Stats I'd like to see..... by sexconker · · Score: 1

      Google maps has done that for years. With voice control, if you want.

    10. Re:Stats I'd like to see..... by SirCowMan · · Score: 1

      Oh, they can be made to go. Nothing Google on my phone.. just need root.

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    11. Re:Stats I'd like to see..... by GrumpySteen · · Score: 1

      Also...
      How many people use Alexa?
      How many people know they have it installed?

      Amazon pushed it out to all Kindle Fire tablets and it's always on, so it kills the fuck out of older tablets' battery life.

  3. sheeple by sdinfoserv · · Score: 1

    “Big Brother is Watching You.”
    George Orwell, 1984

  4. Fine. Now how do I remote it? by dargaud · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This fucker keeps opening on my phone. I've followed several tutorials on how to remove or disable it, but none work. I DO NOT WANT TO TALK TO MY PHONE. Is that not clear enough ?

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    1. Re:Fine. Now how do I remote it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You can't remove it, as Google will not let you. Same happened on my Nexus devices, some forced update pushed that crap into my devices, even though they are unsupported from security patches point of view by Google.
      Somehow they do have man power to port these spyware softwares to every Android OS version ever shipped, but their OS security updates end after two year of device launch.

    2. Re:Fine. Now how do I remote it? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Would help to know what phone you have, then we might be able to guess how you keep randomly opening it.

      One possibility is a long press of the home button. You can disable that unless your phone is particularly shitty.

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    3. Re:Fine. Now how do I remote it? by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 1

      I DO NOT WANT TO TALK TO MY PHONE. Is that not clear enough ?

      Have you considered telling your phone that you don't want to talk to it? ;)

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    4. Re:Fine. Now how do I remote it? by dargaud · · Score: 1
      'Remove', not 'remote'... Obviously.

      Anyway, I have a phone with Android 7.1.2, but other phones have the same issue. And yes, a long press of [Home] will bring it up, but there's no 'settings' there, and no disable. They want to force feed it to you, just like the removal of the phone jack and so many other things.

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    5. Re:Fine. Now how do I remote it? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      Open the Google app. Click on "more". Open Settings. Click on Settings (again). Assistant tab. Scroll down and you will see your phone. Click that, then there is a master toggle to enable/disable Google Assistant on that device.

      Ignore the "beware of the leopard" sign.

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    6. Re:Fine. Now how do I remote it? by dargaud · · Score: 1

      Thanks, that worked this time. That's incredibly well hidden as I usually go around all the settings on all the apps...

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    7. Re:Fine. Now how do I remote it? by Solandri · · Score: 2

      Swipe down from the top.
      Settings
      Applications (or Apps & Notifications)
      Default Apps (or Advanced -> Default Apps)
      (might have to select Assist & voice input)
      Assist App
      Change from Google to None

    8. Re:Fine. Now how do I remote it? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      It seems like it just got shuffled around and ended up there, probably because no-one working on it paid much attention to the usability of the off switch on their masterpiece.

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    9. Re:Fine. Now how do I remote it? by jwdb · · Score: 1

      Agreed, although I'd be ok with talking to my phone if the processing was done locally.

      But, given that's not today's tech yet, I just switched to a phone with a custom android ROM. Didn't root and did install Play Store, but I left out all the annoying bits, such as Voice, Now, etc... Feels much better not to have to worry about that any more.

      Does carry some risk and takes some technological know-how, but at this point I think it's worth the effort.

    10. Re:Fine. Now how do I remote it? by dargaud · · Score: 1

      I actually did try a few variations of "how to disable yourself", but just like a long suffering wife, it only gave me the cold shoulder...

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  5. We need a new wiki.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    We are going to need a wiki to keep track of which devices do not include these "assistants" with microphones with software controlled by surveillance companies.

    It's getting harder and harder to avoid.

    1. Re:We need a new wiki.. by sdinfoserv · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Don't be an ass or an idiot. It's the exact contrary - The promise of all the wonderful things technology can do wasn't suppose to be funded by tech companies cannibalizing every personal and private detail about your life and selling it without your knowledge or consent. There's something morally wrong with being forced to accept being constantly watched (camera), monitored (browsing data, texts, apps, usage, purchases, etc) , listened to (microphone), tracked (GPS) without a crime or subpoena because your want to use technology. Like giving away your rights to your own DNA forever (in the ELU of 23andME for example) is morally reprehensible and should be illegal.
      When did citizens stop giving a shit about all those who spilled blood and died protecting freedoms we casually cast away for someone else's profit?

    2. Re:We need a new wiki.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      When did citizens stop giving a shit about all those who spilled blood and died protecting freedoms we casually cast away for someone else's profit?

      September, 1993.

    3. Re:We need a new wiki.. by Shaitan · · Score: 1

      Luddites don't but you don't magically turn into a luddite just because there is some new thing you don't agree is advancement. New is not automatically better and believe it or not some people consider privacy concerns a showstopper.

  6. Like I was given a choice? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    They push it out, no real way to turn off/delete, and claim its a successful product? How delusional are these idiots??

    1. Re: Like I was given a choice? by ultimad · · Score: 1

      Disabling Google search app will disable Assistant. Use browser to search. But of course, all search dependant Google apps will be broken

    2. Re: Like I was given a choice? by varag · · Score: 1

      Well, there is https://necunos.com/

    3. Re:Like I was given a choice? by sdinfoserv · · Score: 1

      “Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.”

    4. Re:Like I was given a choice? by sdinfoserv · · Score: 1

      "by" 3 grams, not "to" 3 grams.

    5. Re:Like I was given a choice? by sdinfoserv · · Score: 2

      When they use their market share and clout to stomp competitors, that's no choice.

    6. Re:Like I was given a choice? by Shaitan · · Score: 1

      "You WERE given a choice in the free market economy, which makes alternatives available."

      Yeah, a dumb phone or an Apple product which is even worse. How is that a choice? The choices we need aren't the ones which provide the best margins and profitability to companies. Once upon a time people running businesses actually cared about providing a good product at a fair price, now sociopaths stock pumping machines redefine fair price to mean whatever they can get someone to pay via any method they can get ruled as legal in a court. Hell, even illegal is fine as long as nobody says it is illegal out loud and after the court battle they make a profit.

    7. Re:Like I was given a choice? by Maelwryth · · Score: 2

      You have it wrong. It assists Google, not you! It is mildly worrisome that it is installed on so many devices. Especially since those devices are owned by the people with the most money on the planet. In my country we give children little doses of indoctrination for the good of society (anti-smoking, cultural appreciation, environment, etc....). I wonder what would happen if a tech company decided to take the long view and alter peoples views over the course of twenty years?

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  7. Or better: by Errol+backfiring · · Score: 2

    How do I uninstall this crap?

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    1. Re: Or better: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Siri is really easy to turn off in the iOS settings, and you're asked if you want to use it or not when setting up an iPhone for the first time. Google's assistant however is clearly intended to never be disabled. I tried to do so just the other day on a Nokia running Anroid Pie, and even after reading dozens of pages on how to disable it, I'm not confident it truly is off.

  8. Apples and Oranges by Fnkmaster · · Score: 1

    Most of those billion Google Assistant devices were software updates pushed by Google to existing Android devices. This can be better thought of as the count of Android devices, and a small percentage of Google Home devices. Most of the 100 million Alexa devices, on the other hand, are actual devices sold with Alexa enabled, many of which were purchased specifically for use with Alexa.

  9. How Many People Wish They Could Remove It? by RonVNX · · Score: 1

    It is a continuing source of irritation. No, I don't want to turn on Google Assistant. If they'd let you remove it completely, I would.

  10. Disable Google Assistant by vastabo · · Score: 1

    First do this:

    https://www.tech-recipes.com/r...

    Android (at least my moto x4) will still respond to the "Ok Google" hotword and prompt you to set up Google Assistant. You probably don't want that, so go into Settings > Apps > Google > Permissions and uncheck the microphone permission.

    Keep an eye on that; you know all of this runs afoul of their conversion strategy so they'll find an excuse to turn it back on or tie that permission to something you actually want to do.

    Honestly, I don't know if Google knows what it wants or why some people find this sort of thing objectionable.