LG Introduces Rollable OLED TV (arstechnica.com)

One of the 2019 TV models LG outlined at its CES press conference today was the LG Signature OLED TV R (65R9), which has a display that can roll up and disappear into its base when you're not using it. "LG calls the TV 'a revolutionary innovation that helps address the very human need for an aesthetically pleasing environment' and says it is 'redefining space' to offer unprecedented levels of 'immersion' and 'a new level of space integration,'" reports Ars Technica. From the report: LG says to expect picture quality on par with its just-announced 2019 4K OLED lineup. That means 120Hz and AI image processing using LG's new Alpha 9 Gen 2 CPU. The TV's base -- the same one it rolls into -- houses a 4.2-channel, 100-watt soundbar with Dolby Atmos support. Additionally, the TV doesn't have to scroll all the way in. As seen in one of the images at the start of this article, it can fold down to what LG calls "Line View." This has five modes: music, clock, frame, mood, and home dashboard. Music offers an interface for playing music from the base. Clock shows the time, date, and weather. Frame displays a scrolling line of photos streamed from your smartphone, which is the mode in the photo above. The mood mode is for aesthetics, and home dashboard will allow access to some of LG's usual TV software features. No price has been announced yet, but TechCrunch reports that it could cost more than the 8K TV LG announced last week, which will compete directly with Samsung's $15,000 8K offering. LG says the Signature OLED TV R will be available for purchase in the second half of the year.

Comments

What, again?

[pablo_max]

They showed the same thing last year. They also said it will be released in 2019. So, why is it really "news"?
https://www.theverge.com/2018/...

Re:What, again?

[PhunkySchtuff]

From TFA:

OK, so it's just a TV. And the R is not even a totally new concept; I saw an earlier prototype of a rollable OLED display back at CES 2009. But that display was 13-inches, had major limitations, and did not yet look like a consumer product. This time, we're looking at a full-featured, 65-inch TV that's actually coming to market this year.

Re:What, again?

[jrumney]

The innovation this time around is that they now have a screensaver of Banksy's Girl with Red Balloon that displays as it rolls up, so you can pretend you are in an auction house, in case you get sick of pretending you are at the end of an upside down 1970's slide show.

Re: What, again?

[Anonymous Coward]

Oh geez OK I havenâ(TM)t seen that in ages

Re:What, again?

[mapkinase]

>This time, we're looking at a full-featured, 65-inch TV that's actually coming to market this year.

Now all the billions of people who had watch their movies on plastic roll-up screens with their ancient projectors can jump in to the new exciting inventions.

Re:What, again?

[Anonymous Coward]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?... Banksy's Girl with Red Balloon

Re:What, again?

[torkus]

Yes, because reflective vs emissive screens are *exactly* the same. /s

Re:What, again?

[d0rp]

Looks like the biggest difference is that the "new" one has a sounbdbar built into the base that it rolls up into.

The TV no one asked for

[Powercntrl]

For all practical purposes, standard flat screen TVs take up no living space when wall-mounted. From the looks of it, this thing takes up a bit of floor space, and you can't even put anything on top of it, unless you wanted the stuff knocked on the floor every time you turn on your "boner TV". It truly is a missed opportunity if LG doesn't have it play this sound effect when it finishes extending.

Furthermore, the whole rollable/disappearing TV concept already exists in a products that have been available for years: A ceiling-mounted projector, and a motorized projection screen.

Re:The TV no one asked for

[fustakrakich]

It's the perfect height for tripping over in the middle of the night

Re:The TV no one asked for

[Mashiki]

Yeah don't see a point with TV's, but I can really see it being the hot-shit thing with laptops and fast.

Re:The TV no one asked for

[guacamole]

It's gonna be great for easy transportation. Now we can bring our own OLED screen to a lan party.

Re:The TV no one asked for

[Anonymous Coward]

There is a whole bunch of small TV's made for the towed trailer market.
With a roll-out TV you can probably increase the size somewhat and mount them in places where you previously couldn't use them because they would block a path or something.
You could also place one over a windows so that you can make the choice between natural light or TV.

I'm not so sure about the laptop thing.
If you can make it rollable then you can probably make it sub-mm thick. The current solution with the screen as a lid for the keyboard doesn't really need fixing.
Maybe if we got a set of laptops without touchpad. Then the size could be reduced to just a full sized keyboard which is a lot narrower than the height of the screen.

The example installation from LG isn't that convincing.
OTOH, if they had placed it together with the shelves in the back it would have looked a bit more appealing.
Then it wouldn't take that extra space in the middle of the room and you could roll it down to get access to the shelves behind it.
You could use those shelves for things you don't want to announce too publicly, like your visual basic handbook or your drinking habits.

Re:The TV no one asked for

[rickb928]

Projection isn't yet as wonderful to view as OLED screens.

OLED screens that simply 'go away' have huge appeal. First, they let you have that wall back. For other things. Second, it's practical to deliver a rollable 200 inch screen, while a fixed 200 inch screen might not fit through your door, and would be pretty fragile. I know, nobody needs a 200 inch screen. Nobody needs an 80 inch screen either. And the minimized mode is excellent.

No one asked for Walkman cassette players. OR CDs. DVDs. Nope. Especially Walkman players, that was a market Sony created. There were maybe 100 skaters like me that strapped an underdash cassette player to a bundle of NiCd batteries, put on those Pro-4AA cans to isolate us from the real world, and limped around like we were cool. Sony figured something out that really didn't exist, and it was 'damn, i need that'. Out of nowhere. Rollable screens will be the same thing. Just not Sony.

Re:The TV no one asked for

[rickb928]

If you walk next to your walls, yeah.

Actually, though rollable screens make putting the TV in the middle of the room practical. Lets the coffee table off the hook for your bleeding shin.

Re:The TV no one asked for

[Immerman]

I like the idea, especially against a wall - the TV could cover pictures, windows, shelves, anything you don't need access to while watching TV. And just getting that big black rectangle out of the room is nice.

Re:The TV no one asked for

[nukenerd]

You don't get it. It's for hipsters, not practical purposes.

Re:The TV no one asked for

[grahamsz]

Yeah, my 4 yr old told me that when he even sees the tv it makes him think about how he wants to watch it. He's not wrong.

Re:The TV no one asked for

[Anonymous Coward]

Speak for yourself.

My current OLED TV results in a empty black rectangle inhabiting a chunk of my wall space most of the time. I'd like to reclaim that but don't want to give up having a big great looking screen to watch a few things on, so a projector and reflector don't work for me.

As far as putting things on top, I wouldn't do that anyway as I am not big on knick knacks.

Projector

[Anonymous Coward]

Yes it's just an expensive projector

Re:Projector

[rickb928]

No it's not, but I understand your confusion.

NON-Rollable OLED

[bobstreo]

LG 64.5inch OLED is under $2400. NON-OLED 65in 4k TVs show as low as $530.

I'm still not sold on OLED, I remember there were issues with the displays degrading over time.

I'd be concerned with mechanical failures too. Either the mechanism to roll the screen, or the fact the screen is being rolled make me leery.

When are we going to have rollable tablets like in the movie Red Planet? http://www.flashfilmworks.com/...

Re:NON-Rollable OLED

[Anonymous Coward]

After it's burned you can roll it up and smoke it!

How often can i be rolled?

[prefec2]

If it can be rolled without breaking for 1000 times, it will last only little more than two years, maybe three when you can limit it to one view per day. I want to use devices for at least 10 years.

Re:How often can i be rolled?

[Anonymous Coward]

Don't worry, the feeling is mutual. Not only is that not the TV you want, but you are not the customer that LG wants.

Re:How often can i be rolled?

[Anonymous Coward]

If you buy a TV like this, you'll be showing off it's awesomeness to all your friends. So expected lifetime will be little over a month if lucky.

Re:How often can i be rolled?

[Calydor]

And pray you don't have teenagers that just want to watch something for five minutes, go do something else, come back to watch something else ...

Re:How often can i be rolled?

[TAz00]

You can have my living room tv, I fire it up once a year to watch the queens new years speech. This would last me 1000 years, perfect.

Re:How often can i be rolled?

[bill_mcgonigle]

That screen's never gonna let you down.

Re:How often can i be rolled?

[pergamon]

If it can be rolled without breaking for 1000 times, it will last only little more than two years, maybe three when you can limit it to one view per day. I want to use devices for at least 10 years.

LG is claiming 50,000: https://www.engadget.com/2019/...

Re:How often can i be rolled?

[Anonymous Coward]

If it can be rolled without breaking for 1000 times, it will last only little more than two years, maybe three when you can limit it to one view per day. I want to use devices for at least 10 years.

It will easily last 10 years.

You will roll it up and down a few times when you first buy it. Then it will stay in one position when the novelty wears off, because frankly, who can be bothered to roll it away every time?

The point is that you CAN roll it away if you want to, not that you should every time.
Now, you will never place it the way it is shown in the pictures since you still want to run cables to it so it will still be placed at a wall.
The only reason you will roll it up is to access the porn stash you hid behind it.

Re:How often can i be rolled?

[Anonymous Coward]

I mean, she's doing good...but I don't think the queen is going to make it quite that long.

Re:How often can i be rolled?

[Immerman]

Do you never turn off your TV? I'd expect it to roll up automatically when off, and roll back out when turned on. And with good reasons beyond novelty:
1) It protects the screen from accidental damage.
2) it removes that huge ugly black rectangle from your visual space
3) it lets you put your TV anywhere - in front of pictures, a window, shelves, or anything else you don't mind having blocked while watching TV.

All of which become increasingly valuable as TVs get bigger.

Re:How often can i be rolled?

[Immerman]

Hmm, 10x per day for almost 14 years? Yeah, that's probably long enough for other problems to develop first.

I wonder though if rolling accelerates the existing OLED degradation, or if it only degrades in some completely independent way that just has to outlast that. If every roll-up shortened the OLED lifetime by even just several minutes, I might be hesitant to do so too frequently.

Re:How often can i be rolled?

[nukenerd]

And pray you don't have teenagers that just want to watch something for five minutes, go do something else, come back to watch something else ...

You seriously think they will bother to roll it up? In my experience they don't even bother to switch off.

Re:How often can i be rolled?

[Calydor]

No, but then you go in the living room and roll it up (or down, or whichever it is) by turning it off, and ten minutes later, there's your teen.

yes they need 8K...

[Anonymous Coward]

for some reason they dont get that the only thing that is going to save them is 8K

that and some 9-1-2 speaker setup...

They *DO* have degradation problems.

[Anonymous Coward]

They literally consume the pixel material to emit light. Not very fast, but a lifetime more similar to a CRT than to a TFT, which other than some extra stuck pixels may last you for decades with no further degradation. (I have one TFT in semi-active operation that is almost 20 years old now! CRTs too, but they were not used 24/7 for most of their life, unlike the TFT.)

Really the only problems TFTs seem to have is getting cracked when they don't have a protective plexiglass or polycarbonate sheet over their face, and having their ribbon connectors fail on portables due to constant opening and closing. Outside of those, they last effectively forever with minimal maintenance (like replacing worn out cables/capacitors if you use them too frequently or in harsh environments.) In a well kept house with low humidity and normal operating temperatures they will last effectively forever with minimal maintenance, especially if you have the soldering skills to maintain the minor problems that do happen with them.

Re:They *DO* have degradation problems.

[Immerman]

>They literally consume the pixel material to emit light.

Umm - no. The organic material degrades with use a lot faster than silicon, but it is not "consumed to emit light". A candle is consumed to emit light. A OLED, like CRT phosphors, just wear out with use. A molecule breaks here, another breaks there, eventually enough are broken that it becomes obvious.

If you could prevent the molecular breakage it would work perfectly, indefinitely. The breakage is not important to the process, unlike in a candle. It's just really hard to eliminate completely.

Re:They *DO* have degradation problems.

[Spamalope]

TFT backlights wear out as well. The cold cathode tubes dim over time. But until you've got the brightness at 100% for normal viewing it doesn't matter, and in practice capacitor failure will likely have taken the set out first.

Re:They *DO* have degradation problems.

[Anonymous Coward]

Most displays now use LED backlights, not CC. But, regardless, back-light desegregation occurs over total display usage regardless of the image displayed, which is an important distinction. The very fact that OLED screens once again make screensavers necessary is why they are a huge step backwards in display technology, but a welcome one for the industry as they can eventually sell you a new display when the old one falls below acceptable quality levels.

Smoke and mirrors

[abies]

Bottom of the stand in the picture reminds me of mirror setup magicians are using on stage to pretend there is empty space under the box, while in reality, there is enough space to fit their assistant there. By making it few inches higher, they could do the same without any foldable screen, just slide existing flat panel down. Or, if their OLED display is so good, just point backward facing camera on the stand and display area behind it on the screen itself as it lowers and don't use mirrors at all.

Re:Smoke and mirrors

[d0rp]

That's not a bad idea, and could be something you could build yourself for your existing flat screen TV (though it likely would lack the fancy features they have for when it's in it's "almost fully rolled down" state, i.e. displaying the time, weather etc on just the top of the screen).

Eh??

[Ecuador]

"the very human need" of seeing the wall behind the TV? The only case I could see this being true is if you somehow had a really ugly TV...?
Another solution in search of a problem.
We are waiting for rollable/foldable screens on mobile devices*. Give us that. It is nice to have a big screen with you to consume media, but a mobile device that doesn't fit your pocket is no good. Work on that, don't try to hide a perfectly fine TV.
Unless the master plan is for buyers of this thing to fund R&D for foldable mobile phones? I'd be fine with that.

*Personally, I'd prefer a slide out full keyboard, which is feasible with current tech (my ancient N900 was doing it great), but it seems I won't be getting that hence I'll have to settle with the foldable screen which has a greater appeal...

Re:Eh??

[Anonymous Coward]

Some of us have houses worth seeing without a big black plate to cover it up..

Re:Eh??

[Anonymous Coward]

Take a photo of that beautiful wall behind the TV, and put it up as a wallpaper on the TV...

Are you serious?

Re:Eh??

[Anonymous Coward]

I guess the point is to place it in front of a window.
Then you can bring it up to cover the window when you watch TV and fold it away to get the full window back afterwards.

Re:Eh??

[rickb928]

Are YOUserious?

Re:Eh??

[Immerman]

Think of things you can do with a wall, that you don't mind being blocked while watching TV.

Pictures? Shelves? Windows? Right now the TV claims exclusive reign over a large chunk of wall space. If it disappeared when off, then you could use that space much more enjoyably.

There's also the issue of the big ugly black rectangle dominating part of the room for no good reason - why would you want that if you could easily make it go away?

I agree that roll-up mobiles have a lot more promise - but they are also a lot more challenging. The technology has to find a market somewhere if it's going to be developed enough to become practical for portables.

For starters, the curvature when rolling something up to fit in your pocket is a LOT tighter, which means much greater stress on the components. If the TV can handle their claimed 50,000 roll-ups on... lets call it a 6" diameter spindle, then it'll probably be a challenge to get the same technology to last even 4,000 roll-ups on a 1/2" diameter spindle for a pocket display. And of course a mobile device is probably going to be rolled up dozens of times per day - so you might be looking at less than 1 year of durability for a pocket device using the same technology that will last 20 years for a TV

And then there's the question of structural support - a TV can be drawn tight by a piston-ish mechanism like they have here. But that doesn't work so well if you want to touch the screen, which you almost certainly do with a portable. In that case you need some sort of rigid backplate to avoid further flexing damage with every touch. And that's a lot of heavily-stressed mechanical components to fold up into nothing.

Personally I think laser-projector/detectors have a lot more promise for portables. Your phone isn't big enough? Let it project a 10-20" touch screen on the table or wall instead. Or in a dark room, back up a bit and let it project an 80" screen to watch a movie.

Re:Eh??

[Anonymous Coward]

Pictures is moot - the screen is for showing pictures. Shelves is a bad idea, having to roll down the TV to reach them. Perhaps for really tight spaces, i.e. spaces owned by people who can't afford this TV. Windows is the only plausible usage. Good thinking.

Re:Eh??

[Immerman]

The screen consumes a great deal of power displaying backlit pictures with a fixed outer frame size - not necessarily the aesthetic (or environmental) ideal

Shelves - you're telling me you actively all your shelves while watching TV? Personally I very rarely look at my bookshelves while watching TV. I also have display shelves that I rarely touch at all, I wouldn't mind them vanishing while the TV is on either.

I am assuming "TV is off" also means "TV is rolled up" (Why wouldn't it? Being rolled up both hides it and protects it from damage), and that most of the time the TV is off. If you live in front of the TV, then there's admittedly not much point in having one that "disappears".

Re:Eh??

[barc0001]

> "the very human need" of seeing the wall behind the TV? The only case I could see this being true is if you somehow had a really ugly TV...?

Off the top of my head I can think of at least 2 use cases.

1. There are a LOT of condos being built around my city where the living room is basically glass windows on one or two sides, and the best place to locate a TV in the floor plan is right in front of those windows. Would be nice to have the option to have the TV roll away to see the view.

2. Projector screens are still a thing for many, and the convenience of having a large throw area on the wall behind a TV for when you want to project that movie in 120" glory with all your surround sound equipment already situated is a nice convenience.

Actually there is an application

[Anonymous Coward]

Since most content is made on 16:9 most TVs are made that way, but if you can roll up part of the screen you could have 2.35:1 and other ultrawide aspect ratios without black bars. Hell, they could even make it 4:3 base and roll up for 16:9, but that would increase cost and very few people would want that (I would love me some retro gaming / old TV shows on that)

Very niche and small application, but still somewhat cool.

Wonderful

[DrXym]

I've always wanted a TV which can roll up into a enormous box laying across the floor.

More wallpaper!

[Anonymous Coward]

Nice!
But wouldn't it be cheaper to have a roll of wallpaper that you pull down in front of your TV when your not using it?

So big!

[Anonymous Coward]

Why would a minimalist want this?
I'd rather have a TV that was a mirror when it was off. That could be done with a controllable back layer on the TV to expose the mirror. Most TV screens are transparent by default, they are merely coated to stop light bleeding in.
It's like those controllable frosted privacy windows you can buy for bathrooms and other purposes, except slapped on the back of the TV instead of the occlusion backing.
TV off, now mirror. Might be a little cloudy compared to a standalone mirror for now, but as a decorative piece on a wall, it would be much much nicer that it was also functional.

Even better if it could also be a mirror when it is on, so I could pretend I was in the future and have a futuristic pointless UI on it to order my sex doll or quantum tunneling device to rob the hypermart.

Knowing humanity

[Anonymous Coward]

Someone will attempt to roll it up, stuff it full of weed and try and smoke it!

about time

[sad_]

i used to roll up my newspaper to smash flies and other insects, but since i don't get any newspapers anymore i've been looking for another good replacement.

Re:about time

[Anonymous Coward]

Try a Bug-A-Salt rifle. Way more fun.

the big question

[Anonymous Coward]

Have they gotten the burn-in issue under control?

LiquidPaper Concept

[gx5000]

We had this over twenty years ago...
They called it liquid paper.
You rolled it out and it was held in place up with Poster clamps type slip-ons.
You could also cut it to size, the bottom slider had the old RGB connectors.
That tech got pushed back because CRTs were still selling...
Forget who made it though and can no longer find anything on the net about it...sigh.

Re:LiquidPaper Concept

[Immerman]

You sure you're remembering that name correctly? The only thing I can find with that name is the white-out brand, and it would seem a really odd choice to brand your snazzy display technology the same thing as a well established error correcting fluid, even before you consider the nigh-inevitable trademark battle that would result.

Re:LiquidPaper Concept

[iggymanz]

or 40 years ago, if you meant Nick Sheridon of Palo Alto's Gyricon project in the 1970s, was with 80 - 100 micrometer black and white spheres inside silicone sheet

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

Re:LiquidPaper Concept

[iggymanz]

40 years ago, Gyricon

Re:Will it roll itself?

[Anonymous Coward]

Americans sure love their coal. They use more coal than anyone else in the world.

USA is number 3

3D TV again?

[OneHundredAndTen]

This sounds like a gimmick, like 3D TV, that very, very few will want.

Re:3D TV again?

[Spamalope]

I want it to make very large consumer sets viable. 200 inch sets can't be shipped without damage. Somewhere between 100-150 inches would comfortably fill the wall across from my couch.

I really see these being build into bookcase valences and lowering. Then the room could be decorated far more flexibly without a clash with the TV.

Re:3D TV again?

[Immerman]

Or forget built in, just set it in front of them and allow for full personalization of what gets hidden. Heck, do you really need to see that window while watching TV?

I admit the dropping down from above thing has appeal though, I do like to avoid clutter down at a more useful height. Something that could be easily mounted to a wall or ceiling perhaps? Or even set on top of a bookshelf?

Re:3D TV again?

[Anonymous Coward]

I would very much like a new 3D TV. A TV that's destined for mechanical failure through repeated opening and closing, though? Not so much.

The presenters lost me as soon as they claimed that the TV was magical. Only asshats try to woo suckers by claiming their products are magical.

Re:3D TV again?

[Kjella]

I want it to make very large consumer sets viable. 200 inch sets can't be shipped without damage.

I think the hope for the future there is MicroLED. They just showed a huge 219 inch set and because it's made up by tiles the price may not go crazy with size. Like now an 80" TV is way more expensive than 4x 40" TVs, but with tiles it should be proportional to screen size. They also showed a smaller 75" version that's closer to market. Of course they still haven't revealed any pricing info and it's probably going to be very pricey to begin with, but the scaling possibilities are extremely interesting. If it's as seamless as it looks I could imagine there being a good number of affluent buyers who could just pick up 9 of those 75" screens and put them in a 225" configuration. They do say the stitching is now much less visible than last year's demo and invisible from a normal viewing distance. It all sounds good except it's not an actual product yet...

Does it have to be so large?

[Fortis McMannus]

Is it TV-sized because of limitations of technology making the base large, or because they're targeting viewing audiences for the 8K wow-factor? I think a tablet-sized retractable screen is more practical. Just like in the movies, eventually a small cylinder that pulls open into a transparent touch-enabled widescreen and hopefully even with AR.

Great, now if only there were content

[Anonymous Coward]

Wow! Now we can get Fox News, TMZ, Lindsay Lohan, and Justin Bieber in 8K. What an improvement!

And it runs Duke Nukem Forever

[goombah99]

I'm more interested in the microLED panels with zero edge thickness. Those won't roll but they probably can be folded perfectly along the boundaries making a widescreen flip-phone possible. Samsung is making modular living room panels with these in small quantities right now.

I use a projector

[goombah99]

I actually like not having a TV be the Center piece of my living room that all-must-face. So I use a projector. I plastered the wall so the all itself is worth looking at even as a blank white wall.

Projectors have downsides: they need dark rooms but I consider that a good thing--- it discourages TV watching during the day when you could be something other than a couch potato. The real downside is they can't match the color saturation and contrast of a good TV. But on the otherhand they are pretty good and affordable compared toa TV of the same size.

Since I run mine at 120" I would definitely not want a leviathan sized TV stuck to my wall.

Integration into shelve-space.

[denzacar]

It doesn't leave a huge chunk of space behind the screen just gathering dust.
Same goes for desk-space.
With the price it will be marketed at (which TFA is only guessing at around $15k) they should really offer some furniture that goes seamlessly with it, in stead of that aluminum stand.

On the other hand... people who could actually use it will not be able to afford it for at least a decade or so.
Well... apart for some rich folks roughing it in tiny and overpriced apartments at exclusive locations.
Or execs hungry for that empty desk feel of superiority. The kind that comes with a tiny penis which also needs exterior assistance to roll upward.

It worked. Everything worked...

[bpetty]

Did you notice that the presenter forgot to turn his mic. off and can be heard saying, "It worked. Everything worked... ha, ha."
I am not sure if that instills confidence or not, but I found it amusing.

Re:How often can i be rolled?Thanks for the link

[prefec2]

If it last that long. They will switch broadcasting technology before that ;-)

Nope

[Anonymous Coward]

I see no use for this. It's just a novelty item.

"Go away! 'Batin'!"

[Thud457]

Nah, this is more useful so you can have 48 simultaneous feeds going -
Fox News, TMZ, Lindsay Lohanâ(TM)s Beach Club, Justin Bieber, Keeping Up with the Kardashians, CNN, MSNBC, NBC, ABC, CBS, Bravo, Vice, Briebart TV, WWE, Honey Booboo, Teen mom, The Musk channel, Fear Factor, Ow My Balls!, Jersey Shore, CSPAN, My Cat from Hell, The Bachelor, The Bachelorette, Rupaul's Drag Race, Teen Mom, Vanderpump Rules, Dating Bigfoot, Ghost Doctor, The Apprentice, Cajun Crafts, Real Housewives of Hollywood, Ghost Baking, Gordan Ramsey's Elocution School, Survivor, Millenials with no Talent, Mythbusters After Dark, American Tattoo Legends, Recipes for Murder, How to Get Rid of a Dead Body, Andy Warhol's Ghost Trackers, Real Housewives of Sheboygan , Ancient Alientsts, House Hunters International, My Car from Hell, Storage Wars, Ring of Honor, Real Housewives of Atlanta, Big Brother, Octomom vs The World, The Manhunt for John Walsh, Pawn Stars, The Voice, Pet Swap, Outlaw Street Racers of Two Egg, WWE RAW, Nine Talking Heads Constantly Yelling, Stop Filming Me or I'll Call the Police and Amazing race.[1]

All at the same time, in SD.



[1] some of those aren't real.
yet.

Re:Staffing Company in Baroda

[nukenerd]

Thanks for that block of gibberish. I'll use it as metadata for my website, it might bring me some hits.

Definitely worth $150

[WillAffleckUW]

Give me a call when they sell for a reasonable price. Even OLED HDTV and 4K TVs dropped in price.

Early adopters always get burnt.

(caveat: I still own a Rio MP3 player I bought for $1000)

Back to the

[mcswell]

Didn't the future Marty McFly have one of these, several years ago now? Although at that price, I'm not sure how he could have afforded it.