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No Tuition, but You Pay a Percentage of Your Income (if You Find a Job) (nytimes.com)

What if there were a way to eliminate student debt? No, really. Student debt reached a new height last year -- a whopping $1.5 trillion. A typical student borrower will have $22,000 in debt by graduation, according to the National Center for Education Statistics. Now, Silicon Valley is backing a novel idea that proposes to rewrite the economics of getting an education. From a report: The concept is deceptively simple: Instead of charging students tuition -- which often requires them to take out thousands of dollars in loans -- students go to school for free and are required to pay back a percentage of their income after graduation, but only if they get a job with a good salary. The idea, known as an Income Share Agreement, or I.S.A., has been experimented with and talked about for years. But what's happening at Lambda School, an online learning start-up founded in 2017 with the backing of Y Combinator, has captivated venture capitalists.

On Tuesday, Lambda will receive $30 million in funding led by one of Peter Thiel's disciples, Geoff Lewis, the founder of Bedrock, along with additional funds from Google Ventures; GGV Capital; Vy Capital; Y Combinator; and the actor-investor Ashton Kutcher, among others. The new funding round values the school at $150 million. The investments will be used to turn Lambda, which has focused on subjects like coding and data science, into a multidisciplinary school offering half-year programs in professions where there is significant hiring demand, like nursing and cybersecurity. It's an expansion that could be a precursor to Lambda becoming a full-scale university.

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  1. With Apologies to Rick and Morty by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "and are required to pay back a percentage of their income after graduation"

    That just sounds like slavery with extra steps.

    1. Re: With Apologies to Rick and Morty by Bengie · · Score: 5, Insightful

      From the holistic view, it changes who holds the most risk. Instead of school getting paid no matter what, they most likely only get paid and get paid the most if they create decent employees.

    2. Re: With Apologies to Rick and Morty by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      So I guess the basket weaving degrees will go away right? Since if they really are useless not enough of their graduates would end up playing back.

      Second: those that do better than average will pay way more than they would otherwise since they have to cover the cost of all the people that got the degrees but were unfortunate.

      Next: what happens if you fail to graduate? You're partial degree doesn't get you better pay from Walmart but your 2 yrs in school cost real dollars. Deferring paying makes any idiot that can get in take a shot at it unless you make them pay the full amount when they drop out ... a very expensive pay after delivery idea.

      Lastly: they are offering half year programs in nursing and cyber security: what jobs are available for people in either of those fields with highschool + 6mths worth of education? I could be wrong (it happens) but that sounds silly to me. Nursing is a regulated profession in most places, cyber security maybe more of the wild west but if I'm hiring someone to come in I want them to know more than the IT guys I already have which to me means more education than them not 1/8th albeit highly focused.

    3. Re: With Apologies to Rick and Morty by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Basket Weaving is long been dead. The modern equivalent is the anti-male, anti-patriarchy, anti-european/anti-asian, victimology classes and programs being offered by the socialists in colleges, collectively and jokingly called "Lesbian Dance Theory". There are entire departments at some universities that would cease to exist if they had to justify their fancy barista degrees with post education returns.

      These are classes and programs designed to train people to offer those classes and programs elsewhere. There is no actual job that has requirements to know anything about these made up subjects.

      But don't worry, someone will come along and tell you why this post is part of the white hetero-normative male patriarchy oppression that is keeping the aggrieved parties unemployed. Because successful people are evil!

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    4. Re: With Apologies to Rick and Morty by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Actual basket weaving is still useful, if under appreciated. If I weave a basket, and I've produced something tangible and that has some value, functional and perhaps even artistic. It can and will exist long after the maker is gone if care is taken to preserve it. A basket weaver of significant skill and artistry will create a demand for their product. Voluntary transactions between willing participants will ensue creating a value to society. This is a hierarchy of value that doesn't respect arbitrary groupings by neo-fascist identity politics.

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    5. Re: With Apologies to Rick and Morty by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Insightful

      OTOH, if the degrees and certifications are being sold as personal enrichment, then that's a different matter ...

      Nobody should be taking on debt for "personal enrichment". If you need to borrow money to go to college, then you need a degree that justifies the expense.

      The art history and philosophy degrees are for students with rich parents.

  2. Already exists in some countries by ark1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It is called - taxes.

    1. Re:Already exists in some countries by foghelmut · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Because education is a net benefit to society.

  3. Maybe colleges should stop being expensive by Junior+J.+Junior+III · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Or, what if, hear me out now, what if colleges stopped the campus beautification arms race, and quit spending hundreds of millions of dollars on new buildings, and then passed the cost savings on to students?

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