Oracle Systematically Underpaid Thousands of Women, Lawsuit Says (theguardian.com)

Thousands of women were systematically underpaid at Oracle, one of Silicon Valley's largest corporations, according to a new motion in a class-action complaint that details claims of pervasive wage discrimination. From a report: A motion filed in California on Friday said attorneys seek to represent more than 4,200 women and alleged that female employees were paid on average $13,000 less per year than men doing similar work. An analysis of payroll data found disparities with an "extraordinarily high degree of statistical significance," the complaint said. Women made 3.8% less in base salaries on average than men in the same job categories, 13.2% less in bonuses, and 33.1% less in stock value, it alleges.

The civil rights suit comes as the tech industries faces increased scrutiny of gender and racial discrimination, including sexual misconduct, unequal pay and biased workplaces. The case against Oracle, which is headquartered in Redwood Shores and provides cloud computing services to companies across the globe, resembles high-profile litigation against Google, which has also faced repeated claims of systematic wage discrimination.

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[guruevi]

Single women without dependents make 8% more than their male counterparts with same education and experience across the US, in large cities like Atlanta the pay gap is 21%
Women are 50% more likely to graduate from college.

Politifact rates it Mostly True solely because they can't find more recent statistics that disprove their narrative.

Over time, women (as a statistic) make different choices and prefer life over work. They tend to work less hours, take less overtime, are happier, live longer lives and don't die from work-related accidents or diseases (as in >1 percent of work-related deaths are female), they also make only 1-3% less over their lifetime than males (a statistic that reverses when you account for education and single motherhood) but that 3% makes all the difference as this wealth disparity is pretty much concentrated in the top 1%.

Possible consequence - equal work hours

[sinij]

I choose to be optimistic, perhaps consequence of this mandatory gendered equal pay is that men will be allowed to "lean out" of crazy overtime and weekend hours that have been expected up to this point.

This is all just a side show, a distraction

[rsilvergun]

Americans are making 20% less than they used to (article says "Millennials" but I don't know about you but I took a paycut when the economy crashed in 2008).

Men and Women are now fighting among ourselves over 1-3% (a percentage that might just be due to men not taking time off for child rearing) while the ruling class is laughing all the way to the bank with that 20%.

This has been modus operandi for centuries: wedge issues. You find something to divide the working class into manageable chunks. Race, creed, sex. Hell, when the Japanese couldn't do it with race because they were all Japanese they made up classes based on jobs and kept books of them by name.

Don't fall for it. Demand better pay for all workers. Support the push for higher minimum wage. Vote in your primary for pro-Union, pro-worker candidates who refuse corporate PAC money. Demand all workers get healthcare that isn't tied to your job so you can switch jobs at will.

We've got bigger fish to fry than this. Don't get into the trenches with your fellow workers fighting while the rich laugh at you

Re:Should be easy to defend

[TimothyHollins]

Correlation is not causation. There is no proof that the inclination is caused by biology, nor the degree of productivity.

I don't know anything about productivity, this is the first time I've heard someone mention it. But the inclination, oh boy.
https://www.thejournal.ie/gend...
There's even a wiki page on it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
As always, I wouldn't trust the wiki page, but the sources might be interesting.

Oh, and here's a documentary from the Norwegian state channel. Don't worry, it's subbed in English. It's a good watch, quite explanatory. https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

So yes, it seems to be heavily influenced by biology, even more so than findings from not-so-equal countries might suggest.

Re:Devil's adocate

[Anonymous Coward]

Up until today, if Oracle were accused of doing evil thing X, everyone piled in saying "yeah it's Oracle, so probably they did"

If Oracle are accused of doing evil thing X *that benefits them*, then most Slashdotters will agree that they probably did it.

But this case doesn't make sense. Why would they pay men extra, if they could hire women at a lower rate to do the same work?

On the other hand, feminists have also earned themselves a poor reputation - and a spurious lawsuit like his would be entirely consistent with their history. Of the two evils, Oracle is probably, for once, the innocent party here.

Re:Does not logically follow

[jpaine619]

In education I'd tend to believe you as women, at least in the US, make up the larger proportion of teachers. At the employment level I call Bullshit. Show us your numbers. Your claim flies in the face of every study I've ever seen.

Sweden is frequently cited as one of the most gender neutral countries in the world, yet they still show the typical (western) divisions in labor. Men are the ones doing the manual labor and engineering fields, while women continually pick the more domestic and people oriented jobs.

This absolute denial, by the left, that men and women are different is lunacy. We know we're different.. Yet these rabid SJWs will froth at the mouth if you voice that.

Over the years I've had a handful of job interviews for pretty high paying jobs that involved lots of work outdoors, long hours, and working at height. During those applications, I've never seen a single woman show up EVER. These were jobs that paid in excess of $100K/year. (Roughly double the median income for California and in this area a very good salary. One can be more than comfortable on that pay). But, they don't want to work outdoors, they don't want to work mandatory overtime, and they don't want to work at height. (In this context "they" means the majority. I'm not implying 100%)

At some point the left is going to have to come to the same conclusion that anyone with brains has come to, if women did equal work to men for less pay, why the fuck wouldn't companies hire only women?

This is an aside, but relevant to the differences in biology and mental character: Back when the telephone was still a new thing, brand new really, AT&T (Bell System) hired males as switchboard operators (yes, because of sexist reasons - the feeling at the time was that women should be at home), but that policy was rapidly scrapped once it became clear that men sucked at that job. Men are abrasive, argumentative, combative, and lack the same level of interpersonal skills that most women have naturally. It wan't unusual for male operators to be fired for telling a customer to "go fuck yourself". The female operators didn't do shit like that. Generally (not 100%, but a large percentage) were friendly, polite, and empathetic. They tended to have the personality to soothe customers rather than battle them.

Gender differences are real.. Deal with it. You aren't going to erase millions of years of evolution just because you want to.

The average male is stronger than 85% of women. The strongest 15-20% of males are stronger than 100% of women.. That's a difference.. It's biological.. It's real... It's how it is.. That alone will excluded most women from most physical jobs where any type of heavy lifting is involved. How the hell do you legislate that away?