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Apple is Planning 3D Cameras for Next Year's iPhones; Three Rear Cameras Setup For This Year's Phone; and Dark Mode for iOS 13: Report (bloomberg.com)

Apple plans to launch iPhones with a more-powerful 3-D camera as soon as next year, stepping up the company's push into augmented reality, Bloomberg reported Wednesday. From the report: The rear-facing, longer-range 3-D camera is designed to scan the environment to create three-dimensional reconstructions of the real world. It will work up to about 15 feet from the device, the people said. Apple's new system uses a laser scanner, rather than the existing dot-projection technology which doesn't work as well over longer distances, according to the people, who asked not to be identified discussing unreleased features. That's just one of many new features -- including a third, more advanced camera, enhanced photo-capture tools and a more powerful chip -- that Apple plans to include in coming generations of iPhones, the people said.

[...] For 2019, Apple plans successors to the iPhone XS and iPhone XS Max -- code-named D42 and D43 -- and an update to the iPhone XR, said the people. The larger of the new high-end iPhones will have three cameras on the back, and other handsets could eventually come with the upgraded system, too, the people said. [...] Apple's next operating system update, iOS 13, will include a dark mode option for easier nighttime viewing and improvements to CarPlay, the company's in-vehicle software.

43 comments

  1. How many headphone jacks? by FunkSoulBrother · · Score: 0

    n/t

    1. Re:How many headphone jacks? by OffTheLip · · Score: 1

      Seems this ship has sailed. I prefer the option of a wired headphone or bluetooth which I have until I replace my current phone.

    2. Re:How many headphone jacks? by fermion · · Score: 1

      I don’t miss mine. Wanting a headphone jack is like wanting to be 1970 sheik with a boom bar bigger than you are.

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    3. Re:How many headphone jacks? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're a moron. Wanting a headphone jack is the definition of basic utilitarianism and pragmatism. Again, you're a moron.

    4. Re:How many headphone jacks? by TheCastro1689 · · Score: 1

      I've had a few different styles of bluetooth headphones, but I still prefer my wired ones. I don't have to think or worry about charging them, they work seamlessly from my phone to my computer to Nintendo switch and DS and to my cars AUX cable.

    5. Re:How many headphone jacks? by chispito · · Score: 1

      I don’t miss mine. Wanting a headphone jack is like wanting to be 1970 sheik with a boom bar bigger than you are.

      A 1970 sheik, you say? I am familiar with a 1962 sheik but not 1970.

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    6. Re:How many headphone jacks? by DarkRookie2 · · Score: 1

      1877 for TRS.
      If it ain't broke why try top fix it.
      BT only is just future DRM.

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    7. Re:How many headphone jacks? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I suggest you stop missing a rounded wheel too. Switch to rectangles, don't be a fucking pussy.

  2. 3D stuff has never taken hold yet... by SuperKendall · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It seems to me like most attempts at bringing 3D to the general consumer market are meet with a cool reception...

    But I have to say, I have one friend on Facebook who somehow has had an experimental feature toggled on for her Facebook app, and she takes what are essentially slightly shifting 3D photos - and they do look amazing (part of which is that she is also a good photographer and knows how to take advantage of the feature).

    Live Photos have a bit of a similar effect but the 3D perspective shift on a still subject, adds a bit of extra zing.

    One area I can honestly see this really being great though are for things like eBay where you could better convey a sense of the item. eBay would have to support 3D display features like this though.

    So, maybe between augmented/virtual reality gear slowly being accepted by the market, and more 3D gear like this going into widespread consumer devices... maybe we'll finally see significant uptake in consumer interest and use of 3D.

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    1. Re: 3D stuff has never taken hold yet... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not experimental, it's just well hidden and requires an iPhone that can take "portrait mode" pictures.

      Look for "3D Picture" when adding media to your post. I don't know if it works on any Android phones that take pictures with a depth buffer, but it should work on any iOS client.

      The effect is also really bad, since it uses AI to fill in the missing spaces. Basically things sort of smear randomly as you scroll.

  3. But why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who needs to take 3D pictures? It sounds cool but it just sounds like an expensive gimmick.

  4. $2000 by Zorro · · Score: 4, Funny

    The quest for the $2000 Cell Phone. Apple has the courage!

    1. Re:$2000 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Laser in consumer product will kill your eyes, cause retina detachments, floaters etc. Quite an expensive masochist device.

    2. Re:$2000 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Courageous times call for courageous measures!

      I wonder what they'll have the courage to remove this go around?
      Hopefully another useful feature, like all the physical buttons!

      Courageous indeed, remove features and ask for more money.

  5. Ken Doll you need a life + job kiddo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "I have one friend on Facebook" - Probably not even. It's a chatbot. Nobody corporeal would want to get a feed of your daily mental diarrhea, #debunked

  6. Bevel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If it works anything like the Matter and Form Bevel device, it will be a piece of garbage.

  7. Self driving? by mspohr · · Score: 1

    I'm waiting for full self driving capability.

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  8. Did you think that was some kind of epiphany? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    So.. maybe as stuff becomes adopted, maybe we'll see significant adoption of stuff? Is that what you're saying genius? I think most people inherently understand how that works without you spelling it out like a moron.

    Be sure to log in with your other accounts to mod to yourself +85, avant garde. This daily self-ego affirmation is important.

    1. Re:Did you think that was some kind of epiphany? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know right. Kendall doesn't need a 3d camera, he needs a fucking diary.

  9. Awesome! by GrahamJ · · Score: 3, Funny

    A proper 3D camera will be amazing for all the AR apps I never use.

    1. Re:Awesome! by Bite+The+Pillow · · Score: 0

      Thank you for your valuable contribution. My understanding has been enhanced by someone with measurably zero interest in the topic, a notion that I posted from my HTC Evo 3D.

    2. Re: Awesome! by GrahamJ · · Score: 1

      Oh, delicious irony.

      I actually have a great deal of interest in the subject. I have multiple VR headsets and have dabbed in AR and VR development. But phone-based AR clearly has no killer app yet. Thatâ(TM)s why I have many AR apps I never use, and why different 3D detection hardware seems of dubious value.

    3. Re:Awesome! by TeknoHog · · Score: 1

      A proper 3D camera would be interesting in its own right. But combining a few 2D slices is not 3D.

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  10. Neat! by bob4u2c · · Score: 1

    Sounds like a neat idea. You know a portable device that people would have that could take pictures in 3-D and show them back to the user without needing special glasses.

    Oh and could you make it a game console as well, with tactile buttons, a replaceable battery, a SD memory slot, and a R-4 card slot?

  11. Is this about 2019 or 2020 by SallyBowls · · Score: 1

    The next iPhone is expected in the autumn of this year, 2019. Next year's iPhone is expected in the autumn of next year, 2020. But it seems like it is talking about this year's iPhone, not next year's iPhone.

  12. So, everything except ... by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

    ... useful shit.

    Ever since Jobs died, it's been one expensive coat of paint after another.

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    1. Re:So, everything except ... by oogoliegoogolie · · Score: 1

      And each year Apple markets how much better the current years paint is because it's 0.01mm thinner than last years paint.

  13. Thanks Apple by GrumpySteen · · Score: 1

    Of all the problems with cell phones that you could have solved, the one you choose was "not enough unsolicited 3D dick pics"

  14. Stop it by DarkRookie2 · · Score: 1

    Stop listing 'Dark Mode' as a feature.
    It is not. It is just something to remind us how little control over our phone we have.

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  15. No, it's not like that... by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    It's more like - stuff people are actually doing in the real world has become interesting enough, that more people may actually want to use it.

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    1. Re:No, it's not like that... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you're rephrasing obvious shit again. So I was right. The confirmation wasn't actually needed for anyone who could read.

  16. Re: Thanks Huawei by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No NSA backdoor on my P20 or M5... er, um, video chat "bug" I mean... or however fake news reported it.

    I don't really pay attention to fake news anymore.

  17. Aha, here is how it's enabled - virally by SuperKendall · · Score: 0

    It's not experimental, it's just well hidden and requires an iPhone that can take "portrait mode" pictures.

    I've had that for quite some time...

    Look for "3D Picture" when adding media to your post.

    I had no such option anywhere, in the Facebook app I have updated just today...

    I could add 360 photos. I could post the live version of the photo (basically short video). But I had no option in "add to your post" nor "edit" that allows me to post a 3D photo.

    I use the past tense though, because it turns out that to enable this feature I had to view someone else's 3D photo through the Facebook app, then click on "Try it" that appears at the bottom of the 3D photo! After that Facebook will let you add 3D media. I almost never use the Facebook app, only looking at it occasionally in a. desktop browser, so I had never seen that option.

    Visit the Hangingpixels Photo Art Facebook account using the Facebook app to get the "Try It" link.... BTW if you also want to see what professional results look like for that feature, that account looks to post a ton of great 3D content (I hadn't been following them before, but am now).

    After using the "try it" button, NOW I see a "3D" option in the same menu that has "Photo/Video" and "Tag People".

    Although I can't find it now, I had read that Facebook only rolled this out to something like 10% of the user base to start.

    The effect is also really bad, since it uses AI to fill in the missing spaces.

    I disagree, I like the results from most of the images I have seen. And I am fairly picky about photo quality. The shifting mostly takes attention away from flaws like that around the edges of near objects (I do see it), and in fact probably serves to slightly emphasize the main subject...

    Thanks for making me hunt down how to enable this, as much as I dislike Facebook I do like this feature quite a bit and will probably post some images to take full advantage, although I'll probably look more into creating custom depth-maps for better quality photos.

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    "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
  18. this sounds like by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This phone sound like it is exactly the phone I would not buy.

    I will stick to my SE, the last good phone Apple made.

  19. The Adams Test by SuperKendall · · Score: 0

    If it's a chatbot that is so good at choosing photography that I enjoy every post, at that point what meaningful distinction is there between a chatbot and a human?

    Perhaps that is the point when AI takes over, when on social media the chatbots are more fun to hang around with and follow than real people.

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    "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
    1. Re:The Adams Test by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ^ says a shit tonne about you more than anything I'd delve into beyond cursory glance. I was totally guessing you were some INCEL loser, I didn't mean to be right. Fucking weird AF, jesus man.. you are emulatable at this point.

      You might be the most annoying Perl script I've ever come across. That's a big fat F on your Turing examination, no wonder even Siri hates you.

  20. Cameras = Razors by dmt0 · · Score: 1

    It's official, number of cameras on phones is like number of razor blades on a Gillette. Waiting to upgrade my phone to the one with 5 cameras. You take one shot - it takes 5!

  21. Dark mode? by oogoliegoogolie · · Score: 1

    Hello Apple. This is Windows 3.1 calling from 1994. We want our dark theme back and kindly ask you to stop pretending that you invented something new.

  22. HTC EVO 3D by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wow,

    A 3D camera you say? I'm glad Apple has the balls to make a time machine, travel back in time, and sell me an iPhone that runs Android and says "HTC Evo3D" on it. I didn't know it was an iPhone in disguise. That's thinking different!

  23. iTard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    r app yet. Thatâ(TM)s why I

    No, ya problem is you use a piece of shit iphone and can't even do that right.

    1. Re: iTard by GrahamJ · · Score: 1

      Oh really. Please, enlighten us as to the killer AR app for Android.

      And in 2019 I do not expect to have to encode my own entities.

  24. ORLY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Meaning...more useless technology for trying to sell a sky-high priced phone.

    3D is useless. Unless you want to 3D PRINT your photos, now that would be a breakthrough.