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Prisons Across the US Are Quietly Building Databases of Incarcerated People's Voice Prints (theintercept.com)

In New York and other states across the country, authorities are acquiring technology to extract and digitize the voices of incarcerated people into unique biometric signatures, known as voice prints. From a report: Prison authorities have quietly enrolled hundreds of thousands of incarcerated people's voice prints into large-scale biometric databases. Computer algorithms then draw on these databases to identify the voices taking part in a call and to search for other calls in which the voices of interest are detected. Some programs, like New York's, even analyze the voices of call recipients outside prisons to track which outsiders speak to multiple prisoners regularly.

Corrections officials representing the states of Texas, Florida, and Arkansas, along with Arizona's Yavapai and Pinal counties; Alachua County, Florida; and Travis County, Texas, also confirmed that they are actively using voice recognition technology today. And a review of contracting documents identified other jurisdictions that have acquired similar voice-print capture capabilities: Connecticut and Georgia state corrections officials have signed contracts for the technology

Authorities and prison technology companies say this mass biometric surveillance supports prison security and fraud prevention efforts. But civil liberties advocates argue that the biometric buildup has been neither transparent nor consensual. Some jurisdictions, for example, limit incarcerated people's phone access if they refuse to enroll in the voice recognition system, while others enroll incarcerated people without their knowledge. Once the data exists, they note, it could potentially be used by other agencies, without any say from the public.

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  1. Re:Being in prison isn't consensual? by darkain · · Score: 3, Informative

    I mean, you read the last part of TFS, but what about the rest? Did you miss this part?

    "Some programs, like New York's, even analyze the voices of call recipients outside prisons to track which outsiders speak to multiple prisoners regularly."

  2. Re:Being in prison isn't consensual? by bugs2squash · · Score: 1

    and the people outside of prison ?

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  3. Purpose by duke_cheetah2003 · · Score: 1, Interesting

    The purpose of this is to prevent inmates from hijacking/sharing each other's phone cards and usage of the phone system.

    It basically prevents Prisoner A from using Prisoner B's phone time because (s)he won't have the same voice print. This is mostly a good thing, inmates can no longer share phone time, or steal it from each other, or even trade it. Everything inside a prison becomes a valuable commodity to be traded for other commodities.

    This is an environment where you someone just might beat you within an inch of your life for a fucking prestamped envelope, ok?

    I was not aware it was being used for anything outside the jail/prison system though.

    1. Re:Purpose by Hentes · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That problem only exists because of the artificial scarcity placed on phone calls, which does more harm than good.

    2. Re:Purpose by WolfgangVL · · Score: 1

      The purpose of this is to prevent inmates from hijacking/sharing each other's phone cards and usage of the phone system.

      You actually buy that line?

      We let prisoners get buttraped in the shower, shanked in the yard, and allow gangs to form in the population, but we can't have them phone-cards for the phone system we control and directly profit off of getting mixed up, why, that would be downright WRONG!

      Sure, we're doing this to help with prison system phone card theft! All of that juicy data collection and biometric collection of prisoners, friends, and family is just an unfortunate side effect! Honest! Well of course we have to strip phone privileges if they don't comply! We cant have them talking to friends and family without our protection! That would be dangerous!

      "We're just looking out for the prisoners well-being!" So no american prison employee ever.

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    3. Re:Purpose by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      Its lets federal investigations track everyone after prison and anyone new they talk with gets connected to the voiceprint.
      Hops of connections to a criminal and collect it all.
      What was once used over a war zone is now collect it all at a federal and state budget level.

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    4. Re: Purpose by astrofurter · · Score: 1

      If you really believe that's the purpose, I've got a bridge to sell you.

    5. Re:Purpose by jouassou · · Score: 1

      The point of prison time is to rehabilitate them. Most people who are cut off from regular contact with friends and family, will just end up on the streets when they're released, and then obviously make their way back to prison. If you're condemning them to a life in prison anyway, you might as well just give them the death sentence, that would be much more humane.

  4. Re:Being in prison isn't consensual? by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 2

    and the people outside of prison ?

    Oh, in some ways, the entire US seems like a prison.

    We're all prisoners now.

    Or, at least that's the way we're sometimes treated.

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  5. Re: mass biometric surveillance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Cool. Except when your visit to prison was sponsored by corrupt officials and bogus charges, like if you happen to be their political opposition. Then they get free (for them) state sponsored surveillance on your every move after that.

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  7. Re:mass biometric surveillance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    If you're assaulting people over a disagreement, then you're kinda proving their point.

  8. Re:mass biometric surveillance by ranton · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I've been to prison and I'd like to see you tell me to my face that I should never have been released. We'd have ourselves a BIG time, you and me.

    If you're saying he needs to be legitimately scared to tell you that to your face, you are the type of person who shouldn't have been let out.

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  9. My voice is my passport. Verify me! by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    My voice is my passport. Verify me!

  10. Re:Awesome by bobbied · · Score: 2

    Most prisoners when released commit more crimes, now we can detect them by their voice.

    Well.. We already have their fingerprints and I expect their DNA.. So how's this different?

    Personally, I think this is a good idea, but only if the data is only kept until the person in question has fulfilled their sentence, including any time on probation if they are released early. Once the "debt to society" has been paid, delete it.

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  11. Queitly? by AlienBrain · · Score: 1

    So they're recording whispers?

    1. Re:Queitly? by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      The decades of later mil/law enforcement use to connect all criminals to other criminals and other people is the unexpected part of the budget growth.

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  12. Re:This call might be recorded... by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 1

    No, no, no. They're informing you that they may record your call, and therefore pass the legal obligation in two-party-consent states.

    Of course, that would mean you could also record the call. (I think, IANAL, you may also have to tell them that this call may be recorded from your side.)

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  13. Re:mass biometric surveillance by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 5, Informative

    Don't want mass biometric surveillance in prison? Don't do something that would put you in prison, dumb ass. If I had my way, you wouldn't get out again.

    That would be all well and good if the laws and justice system in the US were a little more sane. The population of the US is currently 326 million (2017). The population of the world is 7.5 billion(2017). The 2016 US prison population was 2.3 million including federal, state, local, immigration, military, juvenile. and civil detention facilities. The 2016 prison population for the entire world was 10.35 million. The US has 4.3% of the worlds population but houses 22% of the prisoners in the world. There are also 3.8 million people on probation and 820K on parole. That works out to 6.92 million people who are actively registered in the criminal justice system. That's a little over 2% of the US population.

    With the number of laws on the books in the US, damn near the entire population could be arrested on any given day for an infraction. It just matters if you get caught, of if a police officer feels like finding something to charge you for. There are many states that have laws about which positions are legal to have sex with your spouse, in the privacy of your own home. In one of the Carolinas it's illegal to sing off key. There's a town in Arizona that it's illegal to wear suspenders, and another that it's illegal for a woman to wear pants.

    There are 646K people incarcerated in local jails. Of those, 70% haven't been convicted yet as the justice system is backed up. There are almost 5500 people who are in civil detention centers in over a dozen states. These are people who were convicted of sexual crimes and have already served their entire sentence. But they are still confined, well, because.

  14. Re:mass biometric surveillance by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 3, Funny

    In one of the Carolinas it's illegal to sing off key.

    The voice print database will be especially useful over there.

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  15. Re:Awesome by AHuxley · · Score: 1

    The different is who they later call all over the USA for the decades after prison.
    Every other criminal they call will have a voice print.
    Every non criminal they call is connected to a criminal voice print and is kept on file as a direct new connection to a criminal.
    Smart phones, VoIP, OS approved chat software, that big brand virtual assistant/intelligent assistant will all be waiting for that voice print for decades.

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  16. criminals by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    By 'incarcerated people', you mean convicted criminals. Also, not 'prisoners', convicted criminals.

  17. Re:voir dire by magarity · · Score: 2

    Just refuse to convict next time you're on a jury. Or better yet, tell them no, you cannot follow the law because it isn't just. That really gets their attention, and there isn't anything they can do about it because you aren't the convict.

    It would be a sad abuse of that power if you used it not because of the particular case but because you didn't like some aspect of the penal system.

  18. Such anger, much despair by stevent1965 · · Score: 2

    Some public policies in this country are setting precedents that are immoral, unethical and, sadly, not illegal. This is one. This has appalling implications for the future of this nation, if you think about it. Incarceration is supposed to be its own punishment, sufficient to the crime. Educate yourself on the cost of making phone calls from prison: https://www.prisonphonejustice... Now look at prison commissary practices and some of the companies that are profiting by selling 30 cent ramen noodle packages for a dollar: https://www.keefegroup.com/ and https://www.prisonpolicy.org/r.... Don't be fooled by the specific product prices in the example. Commissary prices are grossly inflated compared to those available in a competitive retail environment. Plus, inmates are paid slave wages: https://www.prisonpolicy.org/b... Twelve cents an hour is common in federal prisons. Now we hear about the unethical practice of creating voiceprints with neither knowledge nor consent of those being voiceprinted. It's shameful. Immoral, unethical, shameful. By the way, if you're one of those single-note, hard-core, "fuck them they committed a crime" type of people, just move on, OK? You have no idea what you're talking about and I won't waste my time engaging with you. Go take your unvaccinated children on a playdate, or something.

  19. Re:mass biometric surveillance by Kernel+Kurtz · · Score: 1

    The US has 4.3% of the worlds population but houses 22% of the prisoners in the world.

    Obviously something about Americans makes them highly predisposed to being criminals.

  20. Re:Awesome by Kernel+Kurtz · · Score: 1

    Once the "debt to society" has been paid, delete it.

    Like their fingerprints and their DNA.

  21. Re:Being in prison isn't consensual? by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 1

    Some years ago, a babysitter we hired had, unbeknownst to us, a boyfriend in prison. She called him in prison a couple of times from our house phone.
    We let her go for other reasons.

    One evening, the phone rings. "This is a call from WTF Prison, for Mary Jones. Will you accept the call and charges?"
    "No, I will not". And I hung up.

    In this scenario, now my voice print would be captured and logged. Not cool.

  22. Re: This is nothing. by astrofurter · · Score: 1

    Yay for cybernetic totalitarianism! Yay dystopia! Yay!!

  23. Re: mass biometric surveillance by astrofurter · · Score: 1

    "With the number of laws on the books in the US, damn near the entire population could be arrested on any given day for an infraction."

    Alas, it seems we have become Stalin's Soviet Union.

  24. Re: Awesome by astrofurter · · Score: 1

    Yay cybernetic totalitarianism!

  25. Re:Good by nospam007 · · Score: 1

    "We should be executing 100 times more of them, harvesting there organs and using them for medical expeiments."

    You definitely could use one of their grammar-organs.

  26. Re:mass biometric surveillance by ranton · · Score: 1

    Quit being a cunt. Felons don't lost their right to get pissed, any more than you do.

    Of course they can get pissed. But they cannot assault someone which is why the OP was implying would happen.

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