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Flickr Starts Culling Users' Photos (bbc.com)

Photo-sharing website Flickr is starting to delete users' photos after changing its terms and conditions. The firm announced in November that it would no longer be allowing its members one terabyte of free storage. From a report: Under the new rules, there is a limit of 1,000 photographs for those who do not subscribe to the service at a cost of $49.99 per year. One terabyte would store around 200,000 photos with an average size of 5MB. Flickr was acquired by another photo platform called SmugMug in April 2018. The price it paid to former owner Verizon was not disclosed. In a blog in November announcing the changes, Flickr said that "storing tens of billions of Flickr members' photos is staggeringly expensive". It also said by introducing the free storage in 2013, Flickr's original owner Yahoo had "lost sight of what made Flickr truly special" as new users were attracted by the storage rather than the photography.

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  1. Google photos by fred6666 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This will increase the migration speed from Flickr to Google Photos. I doubt many people will switch to the paid version.

    1. Re:Google photos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Or it might be that the business model of giving away storage space and bandwidth is not viable, at least it isn't if you aren't part of the Google/Facebook advertising hegemony.

      The patience of investors holds out for only so long. In the near future the wheels will probably come off lot of more of these .com 2.0 models that thought they could pay bills with clicks.

    2. Re:Google photos by ctilsie242 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I never used Flickr in the first place. You get what you pay for, so my photos are on a cloud provider I paid for, or on an AWS virtual machine. Either way, I'm the customer, not the product.

      I just don't trust "free" providers.

    3. Re:Google photos by Imazalil · · Score: 2

      Totally, I'm seeing all sort of posts and helpful hints about this in my Google reader.

    4. Re:Google photos by farble1670 · · Score: 2

      Aren't corporations supposed to possess personhood? Wasn't cannibalism of other persons supposed to be illegal? I'm confused.

      You are thinking of people. Corporations possesses investors and the values thereof: profit, but may involve some other human-like qualities in small amounts where they do not conflict.

      I jumped ship immediately when I got the announcement. I have no interest in lining new owners' pockets to justify their corporate cannibalism.

      So you jumped ship from one big corporation to an even bigger one, that's gobbled up tens (hundreds?) of smaller companies?

      It's a tough argument that Google's a better option. Flickr is a photography-focused business trying to make a profit. Seems like a photographers would want to support that, as opposed to a company that has a side business of photos for the purpose of driving traffic to ads.

    5. Re:Google photos by Paxtez · · Score: 2

      Well, kinda. If you take less than 16 MP photos or 1080p video, the free service is the same as the paid. If only limits very large photos/videos.

    6. Re:Google photos by mysidia · · Score: 2

      Or it might be that the business model of giving away storage space and bandwidth is not viable

      Flickr Free never did that. As far as we know its perfectly viable --- they always had a limit on the Free one of a certain number of uploads per month, but until now it was never limited in how many Photos you could share with the public.... they provide a service where users can submit and share photos, and in exchange the Photo site can monetize them by showing advertising.

      Its Ashame for all those photos to just vanish from the public..... this was like when Geocities went away, but possibly worse since there's noone to archive the stuff getting deleted.

  2. 1TB wow, I missed out! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    If I had known there was a free service with that much space I would have been backing up to it.

    Why yes, my photos are very large, abstract, and look like noise. That's because they were painted by AI.

  3. umm, customers? by kamakazi · · Score: 2

    So, they buy Flickr, then intentionally take away what they themselves say was attracting new users.
    Somehow I don't think you can successfully monetize an internet platform by taking away people's reason for using it. I will admit I have no idea how to monetize a big pile of everybodies photos, but I would definitely be brainstorming ways to convince people to pay to do cool stuff on the platform with all those photos rather than scrapping the thing that got them in the door.

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    "Proximity to wonder has blunted our perception and appreciation of it" --Tim Hartnell in 'Exploring ARTIFICIAL INTELLI
  4. Re:1tb hard drive by phil+reed · · Score: 2

    Flickr was never intended as a photo STORAGE service. It was intended as a photo SHARING service.

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    ...phil
    "For a list of the ways which technology has failed to improve our quality of life, press 3."
  5. It is not one-sided by Solandri · · Score: 3, Informative

    The situation is symmetrical. In a free service, both sides have the same power. At any time, you are allowed to quit using the free service and sign up with a different service. There is nothing the service can do to prevent you from leaving. Likewise, at any time, the free service is allowed to quit offering the service under its original conditions, and re-offer it under different conditions. And there is nothing you can do to prevent this.

    The only way to prevent this is to pay for the service for a period of time specified in a contract. Payment constitutes consideration - something given up in exchange for receiving something - and thus creates a binding contract. So if you agree to pay for it for a year (with penalties if you fail to pay), you can lock in the terms and conditions for the duration of your service contract. That's why when a cellular carrier changes their terms and conditions, it releases you from any multi-year contract you may have signed up for. Most carriers instead opt to "grandfather" you in under the old terms and conditions for the duration of your contract to avoid this.

    Without consideration, there is no contract, and neither side is obligated to maintain the original agreement terms in perpetuity. (Be careful of this if you let your apartment rent switch to month-to-month. That can be advantageous if you plan to move out in a few months. But if you're planning to stay, it means the landlord can kick you out and replace you with a different tenant. If you wish to stay for a long time, it is in your best interests to negotiate a year-long or multi-year lease.)