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As Magnetic North Pole Zooms Toward Siberia, Scientists Update World Magnetic Model (npr.org)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from NPR: Earth's geographic north pole is fixed. But the planet's magnetic north pole -- the north that your compass points toward -- wanders in the direction of Siberia at a rate of more than 34 miles per year. That movement may seem slow, but it has forced scientists to update their model of Earth's magnetic field a year earlier than expected so that navigational services, including map-based phone apps, continue to work accurately. The drift results from processes taking place at the center of the planet. Molten iron and nickel slosh and spin in the planet's core, essentially serving as a metallic conductor for Earth's magnetic field. Changes in that fluid flow lead to changes in the magnetic field. As a result of those changes, the accuracy of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's World Magnetic Model (WMM) -- a mathematical representation of the magnetic field -- slowly deteriorates in the five-year periods between updates. The next update was due in 2020. But "unplanned variations" have degraded the quality of the WMM so greatly that NOAA published an out-of-cycle update Monday. It was delayed from January by the partial government shutdown.
Ya know, we are going to find out one of these days it was caused by Global Warming causing the ice to shift and therefore causing the magnetic field to shift. The cost of having TRUMP in office is too high. Coal. Oil. Gasoline. Fossil Fuels. When will it end?
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spin axis of earth drifts too, about 10 cm a year, caused by events that redistribute the earth's mass.
NO COMPASS! NO DIRECTION! Putin and I are best friends who meet secretly without anyone in my government knowing about it, (and everyone in Russia's Duma laughing their asses off) but there's ABSOLUTELY NO SEX FOR MONEY!
Rudy - "I've seen it and I can confirm, nobody came. And I know kompromat."
Oh Rudy.
The Russians!
OMG Socialism! Hitler! Stalin! Mao! Pol Pot! Venezuela!
Oh Rudy stop giving up all your GAME, dawg! You fucked big ass for Israel/Saudis on 9/11, but how you gonna get fucked on Trump/25-life? Lawyer, lol. Get one, traitor. Get one.
Runway numbers are in reference to the magnetic North Pole. For example runway 20 means 200 degrees out of 360. That same runway in the opposite direction is 30.
The North Pole needs a wall to keep it in place. Make the penguins pay for it!! We cannot give that pole to the Ruskies
Was what our most benevolent dictator Trumpski would have tweeted if he wasn't so busy with addressing this glorious nation.
In response to this... all of the world's airports will need to repaint their runway landing numbers. GPS maps need to be refreshed and software on personal/commercial airplanes will have to match the new "true north". Oh the tragedy!!! (/sarcasm)
https://www.popularmechanics.com/flight/airlines/a15759858/earth-magnetic-field-airport-runways/
Is these changes in earth magnetic field associated with Tsunami or other major natural calamities ?
As usual, non-facts are propagated like facts.
Nobody knows what's at the center of the Earth, or whether that has anything to do with the magnetic field or whether the means by which it has been described is correct. The standard model is a theory (and I'm using that word correctly).
http://poleshift.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Magnetic_North_Pole_Positions_200AD.jpg
That is, ROBERT SWAN MUELLER III, a "leftist" to his Republican Marine Corps hero face. You fucking faggot traitor. I would personally execute your ass in my bare hands for your lies. You are lucky you don't call me names too.
Mod -1, not a problem, let me simply rephrase it if you didn't understand my questions.
So you have 3 things: Velocity, Electric field, Magnetic field, and orientation of these somehow relates to each other/ are coordinated.
Lets consider it, as say, holes and electrons, where an electron has no specific orientation, rather it's the velocity over the holes that causes the magnetic field. So electrons move up, 'holes' (unfilled slots for electrons) move down, that gives us 1 axis. We still have two other axis to fix there. A simply line of flow isn't enough.
A property of electrons that makes one side more "northish" relative to the other side's "southish", also doesn't work. You could simply turn it around, it should reverse the field but doesn't. So it must be coordinated somehow between the three properties, velocity, magnetic and electric fields.
Q1. So how is the orientation fixed? It cannot be arbitrary because the same effect must work across electrons everywhere, but by what mechanism?
Q2. The electro-magnetic wave thing seems obvious.... we get waves from across the universe, the stars they came from has long gone, how, why, what exactly is oscillation there? Why is the rule coordinating that oscillation for a long gone star across the universe the same as the local rule now? How does the orientation in Q1 still apply to both then and now?
Q3. Maybe you don't understand my point about such a coordination being in 3 dimensions?
There cannot be a 4th dimension, consider 2 dimensional space, in 2D world to pass someone you go above them or below them. If someone passed you by disappearing then reappearing later behind you, you'd notice the violation of the rules of 2D space and realize the 3rd dimension. Likewise in our universe, you'd see the same thing, galaxies would partially disappear, only to reappear elsewhere. The axis of spin could not be described in 3D space, and we'd deduce the 4th dimension.
Without a 4th dimension, that coordination must be within the current 3 dimensions. Is this agreed? Or are you asserting higher dimensions in your model?
Q4. So you have some co-coordinating force between velocity, magnetic field, and electric field connecting all three to an electron. And to *every* electron, across the entire universe, and also to photons/waves, because their rules also coordinate. How can you prove that the spin of the magnetic core isn't *driven* by this force, rather than the spin being a passive aspect of earth rotation?
Well imagine that, it's not about climate change.
I got used to everything being blamed on climate change.
How many degrees off of true north is it when the poles reverse or at what rate of change? Has that even been determined using the Atlantic rock layers? If not, it could be good to know.
From the article, https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/news/world-magnetic-model-out-cycle-release,
"Earth’s northern magnetic pole is moving quickly away from the Canadian Arctic toward Siberia"
Should Trump step in here?
You read it here first
Clearly those Russian hackers did this!
They've been editing the raws for world_configuration.ini
The evil scoundrels!
When will someone speak up about this?!
I assume you read my comment on velocity vs field/magnetic strength over on Theregister.
You know it is straightforward logic there.
1) If light comes from matter, and has an electric magnetic field,
2) so its an oscillation of charged particles, it cannot be some wave because it does not spread and does not have a medium to travel over,
3) and the only charged particles you know about in matter have the charges corresponding to the charge in an electron and a proton, +1 and -1
4) then lights particles must be those.
5) In electrons, and protons that force is strong, and yet in light its electric and magnetic are piss ass weak.
6) Suggesting that increased velocity weakens those forces.
7) And you observe this when you accelerate particles, the faster they go, the harder it gets to accelerate them.... i.e. the force you're pushing against gets weaker. Likewise bending it, bend accelerated electrons in a magnetic field, and it follows a path as if its magnetic force is weak... again evidence of the above.
You literally observe the simple consequence of that very simple thought experiment.
You don't make mass in the LHC, relativistic mass was always circular reasoning anyway: velocity causes mass which gains momentum which drives velocity...
Citing mass energy equivalence is just a mantra. Your particles in the Standard Model are full of complexity beyond mass, and the mantra doesn't really cover it. Saying energy creates mass, just ignores all the rest of the complexity.
Me asking if you actually had proof of creating mass given the alternatives, well that should be trivial for you to answer.
Instead of explaining, I'm asking in these questions, I'm asking you to think about the magic inside Flemings left hand rule. Because Flemings is an observation not an explanation, and trying to explain it in a way that works for electrons and light is interesting.
do something Donald USA no1!! #MAGA
Is the South pole moving too ?
Does it affect compass users in Australia less as the compass is domin atedmore by the south pole ?
First they steal Ukraine. Then they steal our election. Now they steal the North Pole!
Browsing at +1 - no ACs, I ignore their posts. So refreshing!
"If I had not been elected President of the United States, we would right now in my opinion be in a major war with North Korea."
The rest of the world is realigning itself with Trump's internal compass.
Okay, so this is clearly abnormal. In the 200 years of time that we've been watching the location of the poles. this is completely novel behavior that we can't explain. Surely the magnetic poles have never ever done this before in the 4,600,000,000 years the Earth has been around. Our 200 years of data is solid and tells us absolutely everything we need to know about how to predict the poles.
Because the poles are moving in ways those 200 years of data don't explain, clearly it must be driven by something new. Manmade climate change is relatively new, and because cum hoc ergo propter hoc is completely legitimate, I conclude that climate change caused by man is the reason the poles are moving in these new and dangerous ways.
I propose a magnetic pole tax to pay for research into how to stop the magnetic poles from moving as a result of human activity. The Earth as we know it will be destroyed if we don't do this, people. The science is settled and there is no reason to argue against it. We need a tax now, and I will graciously and humbly volunteer to be the steward of that money, and I promise I will never ever use it to my own purposes, or to buy myself several private jets, or to go on lavish speaking tours across tropical paradise. Pinky swear. I won't.
... North Pole comes to you!
There... I CovFIFY...
The South Magnetic Pole is already close to Vostok station in Antarctica.
Has no magnetic properties whatsoever.
Science does not realize this ??
Back to the drawingboard fellas.
spin axis of earth drifts too, about 10 cm a year, caused by events that redistribute the earth's mass.
In the same way a spinning top 'oscillates' when spinning so does the earth, all planets, suns etc, precession.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlVgEoZDjok
but Putin is doing this - he waves his dick. This does not cause much besides wave of hysteria in msm - this in turn has a mass and causes many disturbances - some cannot sleep, some lose their cool and have sex w/o protection and some others exit EU or vote Trump into office. The amount of heat caused by waving the dick itself is also minimal but the amount of heat generated by over excited journalists may cause serious damage to our planet. Therefore I think we will have to remove: Putin, Trump and all the journalists that are so agitated about the two all the time.
There... I CovFIFY
It's insulting that the global warmists get all the attention and us magnetic polesters do not.
This is a measurable change too. Just as likely to end the world by 2035 or 2100 depending on who you ask and at what time.
Can we get some mega fund raisers already?
Exploitable event occurring right now and no one bats an eye.
Insulting.
Here's a question: as the earth's magnetic field is based significantly on the location of the magnetic pole, the strength of any electromagnetic field varies significantly depending on the incidence angle of incoming particles (ie to exclude solar wind) has anyone studied what impact this shift would have on earth's climate?
Looking at http://wdc.kugi.kyoto-u.ac.jp/... the pole has shifted 5x the distance recently as at the start of the last century. Does the northward shift of the magnetic field by 16-17 degrees with increasing speed track at all with increasing surface temps?
-Styopa
I thought GPS used satellites, and smartphones used both GPS and cell towers, not magnetic north. WTF is all that bullshit?
Something is wrong with Slashdot.. I did read this in my local (translated) news 2 days ago..
Slashdot used to be fast, now it's catching up
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