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Colin Kroll, Founder of HQ Trivia and Vine, Died of Accidental Drug Overdose (nbcnewyork.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from NBC New York: Colin Kroll, the co-founder of HQ Trivia and Vine, died of an accidental overdose, the city's medical examiner announced Tuesday. According to the autopsy results, Kroll died of "acute intoxication due to the combined effects of fentanyl, fluoroisobutyryl fentanyl, heroin, and cocaine." Kroll, 34, was found dead in his SoHo, Manhattan, apartment on Dec. 16, 2018. Police responded to a 911 call for a welfare check at the Spring Street apartment where they found Kroll unconscious and unresponsive in a bedroom of the apartment, a New York Police Department spokesman previously told NBC News. Kroll was named the chief executive of HQ Trivia, a phone-based trivia platform, in September. Prior to that, Kroll co-founded Vine, the popular short-form video service acquired in 2012 by Twitter. Vine was discontinued four years later.
Out of all the drugs out there, stay away from heroin.
Because heroin and cocaine don't fuck you up enough?
That's our life, the big wheel of shit. - The Fat Man, Blue Tango Salvage
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/12/09/china-deadliest-export-fentanyl-editorials-debates/2229428002/ - 80 Americans a day = a lot, even for Heroin.
That is quite the cocktail of drugs right there...
Seems like less of a mistake and more like no fucks to give.
fentanyl, fluoroisobutyryl fentanyl, heroin, and cocaine
truly amazing, last time I went to Whole Foods I also accidentally ended up with fentanyl, fluoroisobutyryl fentanyl, heroin, and cocaine. Ther but for the grace of godly Whole Foods staffers go I
You don't have to worry about dying that way.
You cannot afford it. Vodka it the best I can manage.
What was his net worth?
But this sounds like a 'nothing of importance was lost.' situation.
The guy with the wife and the encrypted laptop and no backup of the cold wallet exchange password sounded like a bigger loss.
This is like saying that someone who got in a car and was then killed when a semi-truck had a blow out right next to him and pushed him into a ditch didn't have an accident because it was his choice to get in the car.
Unless we find a suicide note or some other indication that it was a suicide attempt it seems likely that it was an accidental overdose. Especially since fentanyl is so easy to OD on.
I read the internet for the articles.
He coulda spent the money on hookers and blow, or stayed alive if he just picked hookers, and an Aventador for me.
It is more like someone who is known to love to drive his sports cars 110mph deserved to die in a car accident.
I have driven 100mph for a few moments in my life. But I sure would not make a habit of it, even if I owned an appropriate vehicle, because I do not want a minor mistake by myself or someone else to snowball into a stupid death.
Did this guy deserve to die? I would say no. But he lived a life where a minor mistake by himself or someone else could snowball into a stupid death. He rolled the dice, and it came up snake eyes.
And y do I care?
No, it's more like saying it was his choice to drive his car into a fucking brick wall.
We've been losing bright minds to drugs for well over a century and we keep repeating our mistakes over and over.
But drugs are a billion dollar industry, so we'll never stop them. Just like how tobacco and alcohol are with us forever. Too big to be stopped.
Accidental death while drunk driving a car full of 10,000 angry wasps 150 mph into oncoming traffic while blindfolded and both arms tied behind his back.
Did this guy deserve to die? I would say no. But he lived a life where a minor mistake by himself or someone else could snowball into a stupid death. He rolled the dice, and it came up snake eyes.
Addicts make poor decisions, like buying unregulated street drugs from people who don't get high on their own supply. The question is how he became an addict. Was it due to prescription drugs? If so, it's really not his fault his brain didn't work correctly.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
Even when it isn't.
I've heard that song. He stopped to let her out, then kept driving?
Inquiring minds want to know...
None of these chemicals are lying around a normal household.
None of these chemicals are prescribed together by a doctor.
All are known to be dangerous!
If you died with all these in your system, it is because of your STUPIDITY, not an accident.
Admit the truth, he did something stupid, he did not get all that inside him by an accident.
All these people who got hooked on prescription pain killers and then moved to heroin never once asked for help beforehand. They liked it.
Only the State obtains its revenue by coercion. - Murray Rothbard
Addicts make poor decisions, like buying unregulated street drugs from people who don't get high on their own supply. The question is how he became an addict. Was it due to prescription drugs? If so, it's really not his fault his brain didn't work correctly.
All these people who got hooked on prescription pain killers and then moved to heroin never once asked for help beforehand. They liked it.
What part of "Addicts make poor decisions" did you find unclear? Which word was it? Or was it a particular syllable?
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
They have plenty of opportunity to not get addicted to the prescription stuff in the first place. It is their own fault they lack self control, and also their own fault that they looked to fix their pain with pills rather than live with a little bit of pain.
Those who do not learn from commit history are doomed to regress it.
Nothing that followed was an accident. It was his choice.
I guess English isn't your first language.
If and only if his *intent* was to overdose, then by the very meaning of the word, it was not an *intentional* overdose. The word we use for not intentional is "accidental".
If there was no external indication that overdosing was specifically his intent, then it matters not if he unwisely put himself into a position where overdosing was a possible or likely outcome.
The annoying thing about intent is that it starts off completely within ones self. If a person doesn't choose to share or show that intent, it is quite literally impossible to know if intent was there or not.
So yes, it is called accidental. Also stupid, and completely avoidable, but accidental none the less.
Even if he DID intend to intentionally overdose, with no actual external indication that fact is true, the correct term applied is still "accidental" until shown otherwise.
More like getting into a Prius in Fort McMurray during a blizzard warning at forty degrees below zero with no snow tires to contend against all the heavy trucks exiting town for an extra-long weekend, but I take your point.
Doesn't work that way. You don't have a choice after it takes hold. Your mind is twisted.
Get injured, get put on painkillers, lose job because of injury, insurance goes with it, not can only get treatment from shady doctors who are in the pay of the painkiller manufacturers, they get shut down. Now only source of medical treatment are emergency rooms, stil have pain and are addicted to opioids, and the only source left for them are dealers.
Seems a quite likely progression.
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That's a lot of political correct nonsense to justify something that simply is not true.
Many addicts dose at a rate that's very close to 'the edge' just to get the maximum kick or flash or whatever you as native speaker want to call it.
'Accidental overdose' is a paradox in itself. The dose is intentional. The result statistically predictable. If you want to be political correct, remove the word 'accidental' entirely. And replace it by lethal while at it.
For when you want to go out like a real superstar.
The Chinks are poisoning all the drugs to kill westerners. They are at war with us you know?
The Chinese have controlled most of the heroin distribution out of Afghanistan since before the Russian and CIA invasions.
They have poisoned the well to kill westerns, show our obvious degenerate nature to their citizens, and explode our healthcare and emergency response costs.
Fent is killing 2000 Canadians a month.
Do the Math. The is Chinese warfare.
How ironic, we keep being told that the way to be happy, the strongest expression of vitality, is to be an Entrepreneur, or a CEO. And yet, in order to sustain this type of life, one must poison himself like that man did.
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It is more like someone who is known to love to drive his sports cars 110mph deserved to die in a car accident.
I have driven 100mph for a few moments in my life. But I sure would not make a habit of it, even if I owned an appropriate vehicle, because I do not want a minor mistake by myself or someone else to snowball into a stupid death.
Did this guy deserve to die? I would say no. But he lived a life where a minor mistake by himself or someone else could snowball into a stupid death. He rolled the dice, and it came up snake eyes.
Obviously you have never been to Germany. At approximately 161 KPH (100 MPH) you'd be the US equivalent of the asshole in the left lane going 5 MPH under the posted speed limit.
You really don't understand how any of this works do you? Idiot.
" It is their own fault they lack self control, and also their own fault that they looked to fix their pain with pills rather than live with a little bit of pain"
1. People are trained to trust doctors
1b. Doctors are getting kickbacks in exchange for pushing certain drugs
2. Have you ever lived with the kind of pain for which opiates are prescribed?
3. Do you understand that pain affects people unequally?
4. Who hurt you? Was it your parents?
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
You're not entirely wrong, and while it was more of a miscalculation than a mistake, it had nothing to do with drugs.
The simple solution is to execute anyone caught selling drugs.
Simple solutions only work for simple problems. Simple solutions are for simple people. Simple solutions are how we got where we are now (pain? medicate to hell and back!)
The war on drugs has proven to be both a sham and a failure. It's a sham because big pharma is permitted or even encouraged to sell bad drugs that don't work right by the legal framework — one which they have purchased. It's a failure by any reasonable measurement.
Countries where they execute drug dealers still have illegal drugs, so your statement is false on every level.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
Any drug addict or recreational user clearly knows that any use of these drugs puts one at risk of death. In essence it is exactly like playing Russian Roulette and then claiming the suicide was an accident. In fact, taking dope is clearly a form of suicide.
anybody?
But why was he using these drugs in the first place? My guess would be that he suffered from bipolar disease, formerly known as manic-depressive disease. I suspect that many high achievers are bipolar, or at least manic. It's common for them to self-medicate, to control either the manic or depressive states. I am not a lawyer.
With that amount of shit in his system I think the word 'accident' is a bit of a stretch!
It doesn't matter if the addicts chose to take drugs, if they were tricked into it by someone else, or deceived by the medical system...everyone deserves a chance to be redeemed and turn their lives around. And for that opportunity, they have to be alive.
Drug addicts are the raw sewage of humanity.
Why not both?
One time I injected a speedball while driving 150mph on the interstate.
But I don't think there's anything about my life today that would make someone think I should have died when I was young and stupid enough to do that. Nobody who is only hurting themselves like that deserves death, they deserve help. (Yes obviously if I had crashed into someone else it would be a different story.)
1. And doctors (and the packaging) tell them exactly how much to take and when, regardless of how good it makes them feel. 1b. That's half the problem. The other half is people wanting only the easy fix. 2 & 3. And yet, people get addicted to "normal" pain killers, which they pop pills for the slightest pain. The slightest headache, pill. The slightest backpain, pill. 4. You lost the argument there, buddy.
Those who do not learn from commit history are doomed to regress it.
You lost the argument there, buddy.
No, sport, America is losing the argument, and only big pharma execs are winning.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
So? Big Pharma has the blame.
So do people who take painkillers for every little thing, and take them when not needed. You can't get addicted if you don't abuse them.
Those who do not learn from commit history are doomed to regress it.
resort. It's extremely dangerous in even small doses and is primarily for use on dying patients in extreme pain when a disease has progressed so far that nothing else will reduse the pain. I had to administer this stuff to my dying father as he was ravaged by cancer; that's the ONLY time people should be using the stuff and in certain circumstances like that it's desperately needed. I was not even willing to handle it without double-gloving (it's been known to penetrate single layers of nitrile gloves, and some first responders have overdosed on the stuff simply by touching it at the scene of some idiot's overdose). Anybody using this stuff for recreation should just save society a lot of trouble and go blow their brains out with a 9mm.
This stuff really pisses me off because morons playing with pain killers for kicks lead to deaths which lead to lawmakers passing laws further restricting the stuff, and lawsuits against the makers leading to higher prices, and both of those things end up making it harder for ordinary decent responsible people to get the things they desperately and legitimately need.
How many people you think you could kill when "injected a speedball while driving 150mph on the interstate"? It wouldn't be a different story, you were not "only hurting yourself" and you didn't deserve help.
If they blew their brains out with a 9mm, we'd have people using that as justification for banning guns.
Maybe the real idiots are the ones who think it's more effective to dump on suicidal people and drug addicts, versus holding their leaders accountable for restricting pain doctors to the point of uselessness.
The truth is, they sold you the lockdown of pain clinics as a solution to the drug problem. You bought it hook, line, and sinker. Now you are dealing with the blowback of these policies, and pretending you are a powerless observer in the situation. The guys who make the rules are accountable to you, they do what you allow them to do. Your attitude and hatred is what makes the lawmakers feel like they need to crack down on "pill mills full of addicts". I can promise you, no addict ever voted for someone who ran on a platform of locking down pharmacies and clinics.
Look up who instituted these policies that are inconveniencing your doctor, and who put them there. You either voted for the guy, or you failed to vote against him. I guarantee it.
Just buy enough heroin, and you will get some.
You made my day.
110mph in a sport car as exscessive speed? Really?
I was driving 110mph regulary for many years(150 000mills totally, believe that over 50 of it was over 100mph) in Chrysler Grand Voyager and never had accident 110mph was the electronic limit for this car. Speeding in sport car starts probably over 150mph, but never had a sport car, so cannto tell
Longer cars are usually more stable on the road and I fe;t uncomfortable/unsafe at 40mph in many small cars. Lack of skills is much more dangerous than speed.