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Scientists Are Working On Ways To Swap the Needle For a Pill (npr.org)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from NPR: One team of scientists, from MIT's Koch Institute for Integrative Cancer Research and Harvard's Brigham and Women's Hospital, developed a system to deliver insulin that actually still uses a needle -- but is so small you can swallow it and the injection doesn't hurt. They built a pea-size device containing a spring that ejects a tiny dart of solid insulin into the wall of the stomach, says gastroenterologist Carlo Giovanni Traverso, an associate physician at Brigham and Women's Hospital. "We chose the stomach as the site of delivery because we recognized that the stomach is a thick and robust part of the GI tract," Traverso says. Once the device gets into the stomach, the humidity there allows the spring to launch the insulin dart. As the researchers report in the journal Science, they've tested the device on pigs, and it can deliver a therapeutic dose of insulin provided the pig has an empty stomach.

On the other side of the U.S., nanoengineer Ronnie Fang of the University of California, San Diego and his colleagues have a different delivery system. Theirs is a kind of ingestible microrocket, about the size of a grain of sand, that is designed to zip past the stomach and into the small intestine. "It actually propels [itself] using bubbles in a reaction of magnesium with biological fluids," Fang says. The rocket has a coating that protects its payload from the acidic and enzyme-filled environment of the stomach. Once the rocket enters the small intestine, the change in acidity causes the coating to dissolve and lets the rocket stick to the intestinal wall to release its payload, in this case a vaccine protein. As Fang and his colleagues report in Nano Letters, their delivery system works in mice, but human testing is probably many years off.

58 comments

  1. Uhhm... insulin shots don't hurt. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    As a guy who has been using it for at least ten years, most of the time it doesn't hurt. Even when it does, it is not massive pain.

    1. Re: Uhhm... insulin shots don't hurt. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're thinking of Type II diabetes, moronic Trumptard non-science-anything.

    2. Re: Uhhm... insulin shots don't hurt. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Two Anonymous Libtards insulting each other, each thinking the other one voted for the other guy based on no evidence at all. That's pure grade TDS.

    3. Re: Uhhm... insulin shots don't hurt. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I never said anything about voting, I just said that one dude is fat

    4. Re: Uhhm... insulin shots don't hurt. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And I was obviously right, you're a Trumptard. You make the dumbest, gayest traitor shit up from scratch, you know nothing about medicine, and you seek to insult people who contribute to the discussion. You're worthless.
      Deplorable traitor scum.

    5. Re: Uhhm... insulin shots don't hurt. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      so you are fat too?

    6. Re: Uhhm... insulin shots don't hurt. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No need to say 'moronic Trumptard'; 'Trumptard' on its own would mean the same.

    7. Re:Uhhm... insulin shots don't hurt. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And.... you're an idiot, despite your diabetes. Even if it doesn't hurt, you're still breaking the skin, a key component of your immune system, with a needle which ALWAYS carries a risk of getting an infection.

    8. Re:Uhhm... insulin shots don't hurt. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Forget the "painless" claims for this. More important is that the insulin will enter via the portal vein.

    9. Re: Uhhm... insulin shots don't hurt. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you know nothing about medicine, and you seek to insult people who contribute to the discussion. .

      Not the original anonymous coward calling him fat... but he's not wrong.

      https://books.google.ca/books?id=8RBDDQAAQBAJ&pg=PA9&lpg=PA9&dq=fasting+we+were+fighting+fire+with+gasoline&source=bl&ots=tYOyi2deBu&sig=ACfU3U0twZP8lRYDnVrs_kZbdxi5eHjvZg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjW3bK9-KzgAhUFCawKHTdHDI4Q6AEwCXoECAkQAQ

    10. Re:Uhhm... insulin shots don't hurt. by clawsoon · · Score: 1

      They don't even hurt when you re-use them four or five times.

    11. Re: Uhhm... insulin shots don't hurt. by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      Stupidity and jumping to conclusions transcends politics.

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  2. Great! by Pezbian · · Score: 1

    Great! Only $3.14 million a year.

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    1. Re:Great! by mentil · · Score: 1

      Said the piemaker after selling one million units.

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      Corruption is convincing someone that the selfless ideal is the same as their selfish ideal.
  3. The dumbest idea I'll read all day, probably by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Eat a spring-loaded micro-injection pill to accomplish a minor convenience. What could go wrong. Yeah don't work on curing cancer, make a bullshit product instead. Great work Harvard/MIT money-grubs.

    1. Re: The dumbest idea I'll read all day, probably by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Especially when you can inhale which is also painless and it's already on the market (in the US). www.afrezza.com

    2. Re:The dumbest idea I'll read all day, probably by crypticedge · · Score: 1

      These are totally different types of research.

      Do you honestly think every scientist in the world is sitting around working on the same problem, or even informed on the same subjects?

    3. Re:The dumbest idea I'll read all day, probably by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude spending his time commenting AC on Slashdot complains about others "wasting time" on a potentially useful medical product.

  4. Just wait by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How long until these puppies come with s0up3rhXc0reBrOd00d opiate analogs?

  5. Re:Maybe get rid of diabetes instead? by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 2

    Get people less obese, then we have to need to stick needles in them or shove more stuff down their throats (they already shove too much anyway)

    People aren't always diabetic simply because they're over-weight idiot -- and, sometimes, alternate diets, to help mitigate the effects, and taking insulin can actually make weight management more difficult.

    For example, Halle Berry, Nick Jonas, Sharon Stone, Jay Cutler have Type 1 Diabetes, while Tom Hanks, Salma Hayek have Type 2.

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  6. Re: Inhalants allow a guy to have gspot orgasm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    To preface this: I always end up with a very unstable alkyl nitrite that fizzes like crazy and goes flat while being dried with molecular sieves or NaHCO3. Any takers?

    Also, I got my hands on some epoxidized soybean oil, but what I am really after is epoxidized linseed oil.

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    Alkyl Nitrite preparation This will be a more detailed explanation of the procedure

    .

    I will be using the 500ml beaker as the reaction vessel. The only modification I make is to tape three small pieces of aquarium pump tubing to the bottom of the beaker; this lets the beaker sit just slightly above the Ice bath container, but not too far away as to interfere with the magnetic stir bar.

    Setup the apparatus: Place the magnetic stirrer on the ring stand; the 2 qt pyrex measuring bowl sits atop the stirrer. Hang a clamp on the ring stand, and attach the dropping funnel and extension tube to the clamp. Swing the dropping funnel and down tube to the side while moving the ice bath and reaction vessels.

    Add 65 ml distilled H2O to the reaction vessel. add 41.4g (0.60 mol) of NaNO2; let the stir bar mix and dissolve the NaNO2 (a slow stir rate is advised, so that no vortex is formed).

    Add 46.2 ml (0.50 mol) of Isobutyl Alcohol or Add 54.4 ml (0.50 mol) of n-Amyl alcohol or Add 45.8 ml (0.50 mol of Butyl alcohol

    (note: If preparing a blend of alcohols, make sure the total alcohol content is 0.5 mol (e.g. an even mix of all three alcohols would be 0.17 mol of each)).

    Add 20 ml of distilled H2O to a 125 ml erlynmeyer flask
    Add 49.6 ml (0.6 mol) of 37% HCL.
    stopper the flask.
    Pre-chill both the beaker and the flask, in your freezer, for about 2 hours.

    After two hours:

    Crush some ice in a blender (I use a fruit ninja, and it can turn ice into snow (very helpful and will provide lower temperatures than block ice). You will need enough to fill the area around the reaction vessel twice.

    Place the reaction vessel (with cold NaNo2, H2O and alcohol(s) into the 2 qt pyrex measuring bowl. Fill the space around the reaction vessel with alternating layers of snow and 260g of table salt (placing a 'shower cap' or saran wrap around the reaction vessel will help prevent ice/salt from entering the reaction vessel).

    While the reaction vessel cools:

    Charge the dropping funnel with (ensuring the stopcock is closed) HALF of the 49.6 ml of 37% acid and 20ml H2O solution from the stoppered Erlenmeyer flask.

    Using an infrared thermometer, the salt/ice bath should be cooling the reaction vessel liquid to about -12C.

    Swing the dropping funnel into place, and lower the down tube into the reaction vessel liquid ( just the tip of the tube into the liquid; remember this placement for later (when you will be placing it again, but there will be a yield layer next time; you don't want to drop 'just' under this new surface (or you'll be dropping acid into the yield), you w

  7. Re:Maybe get rid of diabetes instead? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have type I diabetes as well. Is it ok if i swallow my boyfriend's cum?

  8. Pricing, Pricing, Pricing by Dorianny · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Look forward to having 30 cent insulin needles be replaced with 300 dollar pills, not even talking about the actual insulin of course

    1. Re:Pricing, Pricing, Pricing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is this the new anti-vaccine thing? Are we starting down a path of "Needles cause autism"?

    2. Re:Pricing, Pricing, Pricing by Errol+backfiring · · Score: 1

      Resistence is futile. You will be assimilated.

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    3. Re:Pricing, Pricing, Pricing by Luckyo · · Score: 2

      Fear of needles is a severe problem in medicine. It causes people to skip injections they really need. There's also a problem with scarification and bruising.

      It's why injection ports, essentially a multi-use cannula are a thing for insulin injecting patients.

    4. Re:Pricing, Pricing, Pricing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      darwinism

  9. No user data gathered? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    It's shocking how out of touch medical science can be. The problem with shots - for people who have fear of them - was never about the pain. It was the bone-deep aversion to sharp objects being stuck in the skin. Just knowing it's going in. Whether it hurts or not is utterly irrelevant. A "painless" needle is just as uncomfortable as a painful one. Perhaps even more so, because at least with the physical pain it can disctract you from the thought of what the needle entails. It's difficult to understand for those who have no problem with needles. Think of it as an aversion to nails scratching the chalkboard. It's not any physical pain that's the cause of the discomfort (obviously no physical pain is entailed in such a scenario). But it's still maddening.

    Scientists... please contact and get user feedback before you develop drugs. Don't just push what you think is best, because it will look good in a high impact journal publication and win you that next round of funding...

    1. Re: No user data gathered? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Precisely. For many people it's largely a psychological aversion to needle sticks.

      Fortunately, a T2 (in the US) can pretty much avoid needles by using a Dexcom G6 and Afrezza inhaled insulin. A T1 would still need to inject basal insulin but that is often only once a day.

    2. Re:No user data gathered? by mentil · · Score: 1

      Some people with needle phobia, perhaps. Others actually fear injection pain, which is why devices like the ShotBlocker exist.

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    3. Re:No user data gathered? by crypticedge · · Score: 1

      That's the thing though, a painless needle they can go without knowing how it works and just take it as "take pill, get better"

      The sight of the needle typically is what sets off those kind of people and their fear. No needle to see, and no one telling them how that pill works means that fear stays locked away

    4. Re: No user data gathered? by Luckyo · · Score: 1

      For those with fear of needles and type 1, there are multi-use simple install injection ports.

  10. Jack Putter machine, zero defects by SoundGuyNoise · · Score: 1

    Reminds me of "Innerspace".

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  11. Sweet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now I can get my heroin in pill form.

  12. Seen the capsule and the damage done ? by mnemotronic · · Score: 1

    I hit the city and I lost my band
    I watched the lozenge take another man
    Gone, gone, the damage done

    Sorry. That just doesn't ring for me like the original.

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    The Russians have won. They have made the world a cesspool of distrust, greed, fear and hate.
    1. Re:Seen the capsule and the damage done ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Accela is on hell of a drug, Lain.

  13. Insulin Dose (pill) Size / Absorption Rate? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Two things I didn't see mentioned in the linked article, but will be addressed at some point, is the fact that the dose of insulin can vary wildly depending on current blood glucose level (take more to get it back to the target), and food consumption (more food = more insulin). (So lots of pills of a single dose, several pills of varying doses, or fill the pills yourself?)
    The other thing I don't recall seeing was how fast the body absorbs the insulin delivered into the stomach lining compared to the (roughly) 30 minutes delay after injecting into the fatty tissue that is typical for the fast acting insulins.

  14. Sodium > Magnesium by Joosy · · Score: 4, Funny

    It actually propels [itself] using bubbles in a reaction of magnesium with biological fluids

    If instead of magnesium it used a sodium reaction it would propel itself much faster, and at the same time would provide a dramatic cure for constipation.

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  15. Oddly enough.. INSULIN INHALER by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 1

    I'm not going to shill for a specific pharmaceutical product by mentioning it's name, but oddly enough, DVR and I-don't-watch-commercials-or-not, I managed to notice there is a product on the market that is an inhaled version of insulin.

    1. Re:Oddly enough.. INSULIN INHALER by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I always thought that insulin was injected because it allowed a faster response (not that we couldn't develop other methods). If someone's dying in the next few minutes, telling them to take a pill wouldn't work.

      Also, this disease didn't exist in the population (not in the current numbers) just 200 years ago. So my guess, most of the folks who start-off on insulin could've controlled their blood sugar with diet and were nowhere close to literally dying from diabetes (which is what happened over 200 years ago), but their doctor prescribed insulin anyway, and now they're hooked.

    2. Re:Oddly enough.. INSULIN INHALER by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you some sort of fucking idiot? Type 1 diabetics are BORN with this problem and need insulin to CONTINUE LIVING.

    3. Re:Oddly enough.. INSULIN INHALER by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, the inhaled insulin works much faster since the injections or insulin pump infusion is subcutaneous and takes a while to start working. Fast-acting insulins that have been available since 1996 still take about 15 minutes. It also has a lower risk of hypoglycemia (blood sugar going too low) because the excess can be quickly cleared out by the liver, unlike with injected insulin which can persist for *hours*.

      At any rate, people who require insulin because their bodies can't produce it (I'm one of those people and I have never been able to control it with diet, thanks!) need a continuous "basal" amount, so there are long-acting types for people on multiple daily injections (MDI) that take longer to start and persist because of the way it's packaged. Insulin pumps are continuous infusion so that isn't necessary, but it still takes time for dose adjustments to start. BTW, insulin was discovered almost 100 years ago. Before that, children and adults who developed type 1 died fairly quickly because insulin is an extremely important hormone, and not just for allowing glucose to be used. Oh, and diabetes was observed and recorded over 3000 years ago!

  16. Re:Maybe get rid of diabetes instead? by umghhh · · Score: 1

    contrary to common belief there is not much protein there. Go on indulge as you please.

  17. Re:Maybe get rid of diabetes instead? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    T2 correlates with weight pretty well, and even thin looking people can be “skinny fat”. That is, they have an uncommonly high bodyfat % for their weight and less muscle than expected. Eating rich and hyperprocessed foods that the west and especially these lifestyles offer in plethora will do that.

  18. Monty Python's "Spring Surprise" sweetmeat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Inspector: (continuing) And what is this one: Spring Surprise?

    Mr. Hilton: Ah, that's one of our specialities. Covered in dark, velvety chocolate, when you pop it into your mouth, stainless steel bolts spring out and plunge straight through both cheeks.

    Inspector: (stunned) Well where's the pleasure in THAT?!? If people pop a nice little chockie into their mouth, they don't expect to get their cheeks pierced!!! In any case, it is an inadequate description of the sweetmeat. I shall have to ask you to accompany me to the station.

    Mr. Hilton: (shrugging) It's a fair cop.

    Inspector: And DON'T talk to the audience.

    LOL at captcha "circus"

  19. Missed target by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What happens when the insulin dart is a dud, it hits some food, doesn't pierce the stomach, etc. There is no verification it worked.

    1. Re:Missed target by Kinthelt · · Score: 1

      What happens when the insulin dart is a dud, it hits some food, doesn't pierce the stomach, etc. There is no verification it worked.

      I was thinking the exact same thing.

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      "Evil will always triumph over good, because good is dumb." - Dark Helmet (Spaceballs)

    2. Re:Missed target by desdinova+216 · · Score: 1

      maybe there will be instructions to take it on an empty stomach? I'm sure it could be used for other inject able drugs besides insulin

  20. Empty Stomach by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So, let me see if I understand.

    They want to deliver insulin via an ejected dart, inside the stomach, which they want to be empty... in a person who is likely diabetic because of obesity caused by constant eating...

    Interesting.

  21. Finally! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Perhaps this will finally bring about a convergence of the world's most difficult professions: Rocket Surgery!

  22. Oral Insulin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Insulin is a protein. Like all protein (or peptide) drugs it needs to be injected, you can’t take it in pill form. This is because proteins are digested in the GI tract, are generally large and difficult to absorb intact, and if they make it that far they then have to deal with the liver before they can get to their intended target. So protein or peptide drugs are simply not able to be delivered orally.

    The need to give daily injections is literally a pain, however. There has therefore been extensive research in the pharmaceutical industry into methods to allow for oral, transdermal, or mucous membrane administration of so-called biologicals.

    As this review states (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1319016414000590):

    These problems can be overcome by adopting techniques such as chemical transformation of protein structures, enzyme inhibitors, mucoadhesive polymers and permeation enhancers.

    This new study takes a completely different approach – they have created an autoinjector that you swallow, which then injects insulin into the stomach from the inside. The research is the result of collaboration between academics and industry:

    Giovanni Traverso, an assistant professor at Brigham and Women’s Hospital, Harvard Medical School, and a visiting scientist in MIT’s Department of Mechanical Engineering, where he is starting as a faculty member in 2019, is also a senior author of the study. The first author of the paper, which appears in the Feb. 7 issue of Science, is MIT graduate student Alex Abramson. The research team also includes scientists from the pharmaceutical company Novo Nordisk.

    This is a great example of exactly why academics benefit from their collaboration with industry, and should not be shamed for it as if it is necessarily nefarious.

    In any case, the technology is quite impressive. The researchers previously made pills lined with multiple needles that were themselves made of compressed drug. The problem was that the drugs desolved in the stomach and most of it was destroyed before it could get into the stomach lining. In their new design they have a single needle, in this case made from compressed freeze-dried insulin. The shaft is made of a separate biodegradable material. The needle is attached to a spring held in place by a sugar-based material that dissolves in the stomach acid, releasing the needle which is supposed to shoot into the stomach lining where the insulin can dissolve and be absorbed into the bloodstream.

    This is a neat idea, but presented some technical challenges. For example, they needed to make sure that the needle was oriented properly, so that it would shoot into the stomach wall. They were apparently inspired by the design of a leopard tortoise’s shell, which can be self-orienting. The shape of the capsule was designed to that it always turns upright in the same orientation, allowing for some control over the direction of the needle.

    They have been testing this system in pigs, and have been able to inject 5mg of insulin in this manner, with the needle dissolving over one hour (the rate can apparently be controlled by how the insulin is compressed). This is in the therapeutic range. The system has to undergo human trials, which means it is still at least several years away. So far they have detected no harm from this delivery system, with the unused components passing through the GI tract without problems.

    If this system pans out, which seems likely given what they have achieved so far, this could be a huge benefit for people who are dependent on protein or peptide based drugs (for quick background, a peptide is a chain of amino acids, while a protein is a folded peptide). Not having to stick yourself with a needle on a regular basis, causing chronic irritation of the skin and discomfort, would be a benefit to quality of life, and may be safer. Of course we need to see if there are any downsides to sticking small needles into the stomach every day over years, but remember the stom

  23. What could possibly go wrong??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What's better than poking holes through the skin? Why, poking holes in the lining of the stomach!!!

  24. Sounds like a James Bond gadget to me... by ToTheStars · · Score: 1

    I can hear Q's narration in my head: "Now pay attention, 007. This pill contains a magnesium micro-rocket that ignites on contact with stomach acid. The blue pill delivers a needle with a fast-acting poison, and the red pill implants a tracking device that will remain embedded in the intestinal lining for up to two weeks. If you should use one...please, do us both a favor and don't recover it!"

    1. Re:Sounds like a James Bond gadget to me... by Obfuscant · · Score: 1

      I can hear Q's narration in my head: "Now pay attention, 007.

      I think Q always called him "Picard". 7 (of nine) and Q never met, AFAIK.

  25. Stupid drug laws by blindseer · · Score: 1

    I remember going shopping with my mom and they'd have boxes of single use syringes on the shelf for people to buy. My sister has type I diabetes and so needs insulin injections. Each box seemed quite inexpensive as I recall, otherwise they would not be out in the open on the shelf for people to grab while shopping. Then one day they disappeared.

    You see the illegal drug abusers were buying these same syringes for their habit and we can't have that, apparently. The "people who know best" in government required people to have a physician's note to buy syringes now. So the drug abusers were saving needles, sharing them, and getting infections from it. HIV spread quickly about this time. So, what does the "people who know best" do? They set up needle exchanges, if you bring in a dirty needle then they give you a clean one. Or some government funded project just hands out needles to anyone that asked for one. You see, we can't seem to stop people using the drugs and so we treat this new health problem by giving the drug abusers clean needles.

    Here's an idea, let's go back to selling sterile single use needles by the gross like we did decades ago. That way we aren't expending unnecessary resources in both keeping the drug abusers from getting the needles while also spending government money handing them out. It's probably cheaper to give them away than have to deal with people stealing them from hospitals and clinics. If we make it legal again to just SELL them then people can make money on this.

    A gross of needles might sound like a lot at first but for a diabetic that needs 4 injections per day that's a one month supply. This is far safer than re-using needles, and given the prevalence of the practice not so long ago I'd assume it's also quite inexpensive.

    Stupid drug laws created this problem with syringes, let's do away with them all. We'd all be healthier for it. It's that or we keep giving out needles instead of just letting the drug abusers buy them like they used to.

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  26. Interesting by Nicp25 · · Score: 1

    I can see how this might be beneficial for those who are afraid of needles... But Idk how it will be possible considering pills will take time to process.