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AI Study of Human Genome Finds Unknown Human Ancestor (smithsonianmag.com)

Zorro shares a report from the Smithsonian: A recent study used machine learning technology to analyze eight leading models of human origins and evolution, and the program identified evidence in the human genome of a "ghost population" of human ancestors. The analysis suggests that a previously unknown and long-extinct group of hominins interbred with Homo sapiens in Asia and Oceania somewhere along the long, winding road of human evolutionary history, leaving behind only fragmented traces in modern human DNA. The study, published in Nature Communications, is one of the first examples of how machine learning can help reveal clues to our own origins. By poring through vast amounts of genomic data left behind in fossilized bones and comparing it with DNA in modern humans, scientists can begin to fill in some of the many gaps of our species' evolutionary history. "The new data suggest that the mysterious hominin was likely descended from an admixture of Neanderthals and Denisovans (who were only identified as a unique species on the human family tree in 2010)," the report adds. "Such a species in our evolutionary past would look a lot like the fossil of a 90,000-year-old teenage girl from Siberia's Denisova cave. Her remains were described last summer as the only known example of a first-generation hybrid between the two species, with a Neanderthal mother and a Denisovan father."

88 comments

  1. Re: Was he... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Or rather, who is Al Study?

  2. What a Family by AlanObject · · Score: 1

    Jeez I know my dad sowed some wild oats but this is taking it too far.

    1. Re: What a Family by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ancient grains?

    2. Re:What a Family by mentil · · Score: 1

      Aah, Artificial Intelligence finally answered the age-old question:

      "Would you hit that?"

      The answer was 'yes'.

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      Corruption is convincing someone that the selfless ideal is the same as their selfish ideal.
    3. Re:What a Family by arglebargle_xiv · · Score: 1

      a previously unknown and long-extinct group of hominins interbred with Homo sapiens in Asia and Oceania somewhere

      If it was Scotland or Wales I'd say the unknown gene was sheep, but Asia/Oceania? Futanari perhaps?

  3. Re: Was he... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    90,000 year old teenage girl.
    The commentary writes itself

  4. So did the 'AI' really find it, or by Fly+Swatter · · Score: 1

    or did they work backwards and apply algorithm 'filters' using the known existing fossil? Yup, I'm one of those AI isn't really AI crowd.

    1. Re: So did the 'AI' really find it, or by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      AI is used here to sell the story. Be thankful, they could have said alien DNA to sell the story.

      Too many reporters with too little knowledge in the areas they are reporting about and too much free time or too short of a deadline (or both) to get the story right. It is the 21rst century after all.

    2. Re:So did the 'AI' really find it, or by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yup, I'm one of those AI isn't really AI crowd.

      I think the problem is that you dropped out the A in AI.
      When something stops just mimicking intelligence and actually is intelligent it stops being artificial.
      For anything that just is a cheap simulation AI is the proper term.

    3. Re:So did the 'AI' really find it, or by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      or did they work backwards and apply algorithm 'filters' using the known existing fossil? Yup, I'm one of those AI isn't really AI crowd.

      It's a Bayesian algorithm, so it's not necessarily definitive, just a high degree of confidence based on the unknown data.

      What is not talked about when it comes to machine learning and sequencing because the genomics world doesn't want to discuss it is that there are major weaknesses in modern sequencing in the data. Sequencing data is not the actual AGTC's of the data. Instead the sequence is copied thousands of times with synthetic DNA, then modified to add fluorescent labels to it so it makes an optical signal, then that optical signal is ready by an extremely powerful camera, then that point of light is translated into a sequenced based on a reference library. If at any point one of those intermediate steps is wrong, the answer is wrong. Next Gen sequencing is great, but it's kind of Rube Goldberg-esque in it's approach.

  5. Thanks to APK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thanks to APK Host File Engine for Hoomans I can safely block this DNA at the kernel level for optimal speed and security!

  6. Re:Science figuring out what we already know by jouassou · · Score: 1

    ...and how exactly is your bible quote related to the science, which discusses how a mutated mixture of two non-homo-sapiens human species appears to have interbred with homo sapiens in ancient times? Or did you perhaps just read the title, and commented without even reading the summary?

  7. Homo Sapiens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Homo sapiens are the dumbest, stinkiest losers to have ever walked the earth.

    1. Re:Homo Sapiens by Scarletdown · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yet the only ones to explore the outer reaches of the solar system, walk on the moon, and when you get right down to it; did a lot to make this planet a genuinely comfortable place to call home, and not the feral hellhole that wants to kill you at every turn that it used to be.

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    2. Re:Homo Sapiens by Quirkz · · Score: 1

      and not the feral hellhole that wants to kill you at every turn

      Are we using the same internet? Because I'd say that actually describes it pretty well.

  8. Re: Science figuring out what we already know by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Title? I was just looking for a good place to tell another creimette story. In this chapter of book six: Creimette meets an elderly Neanderthal, we follow creimette on an adventure as she bakes a three layer cake for a four year old birthday party. She puts the oven on too low a temperature and hilarity ensues.

  9. it's a giant north american toothless it sasquatch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    isn't it
    it's like a coelacanth
    a living fossil

  10. Re: it's a giant north american toothless it sasqu by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I just had a creepy thought. Ceolecanths throwing themselves at you in the dark

  11. Species? by Dunbal · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Sub-species. The biological definition of species is the ability to form fertile offspring. For example all dogs and wolves are the same species as they can all form fertile offspring. Horses and donkeys are a different species as the result is the mule, which is sterile. Talking about different human "species" interbreeding is wrong.

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    1. Re:Species? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This isn't correct. Look at tigers and lions, the species/gender combination makes a difference in if the offspring is fertile.

      Coyotes and Wolves is another.

      I'm pretty sure your definition is considered outdated.

    2. Re: Species? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's only outdated if we're not talking about people, otherwise the criteria end up making whites, blacks, asians, etc. different Species. And we just can't have that.

    3. Re: Species? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Let's not forget that sub-human species known as the incel.

    4. Re: Species? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ironically, the text books now say that wolfs and dogs are incapable of producing offspring. It's not worth your time to take evolutionists seriously these days. I went as far as taking a hybrid into a university office. That was a rather amusing event.

    5. Re: Species? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mix n1gger species with a stupid american libturd and get a half-assed hedgehog chimp

    6. Re:Species? by dryeo · · Score: 5, Informative

      There's at least 26 definitions of species. When you get down to it, defining a species is a problem. The observation of the AC about lions and tigers being able to hybridize with only one sex being fertile is an example that may apply to the different hominoids. There's also horses and donkeys where the offspring are almost always infertile but there has been rare cases of mules getting pregnant and producing offspring.
      Ring species where the neigbours can breed but further apart specimens can't.
      Plants get more complex. Dandelions IIRC skip generations so parent and offspring can't breed but grandparent and grandchild can.
      Then there's the organisms that are asexual.

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    7. Re: Species? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's only outdated if we're not talking about people, otherwise the criteria end up making whites, blacks, asians, etc. different Species. And we just can't have that.

      Your conjecture is wildly, outlandishly, absurdly untrue and unsupportable. For whites, blacks, asians, etc., to ever possibly be considered different species they could not possibly share within an impossibly small margin in all cases to be precisely from the same DNA pool of the eponymous species in question, i.e. homo sapiens sapiens, as is the case and has been pretty much everywhere for 14k-120k years when anyone is sensibly and truthfully speaking of or referring to people. I expect you are likely among the paranoid someone will sneak gene therapy into your wife's food or beverage during her subsequent pregnancies and all your children will be born genetically and your own under paternal testing, except very obviously non-white, non-black, non-asian, etc.

    8. Re:Species? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The genetic fringes of one species may be close enough to the genetic fringes of another species to be fertile. Maybe with very low probability. Happens a lot, which is why the definition you use is not actually used a whole lot, at least in an absolute sense. Species do not have hard boundaries, they have soft boundaries that blur into one another.

      The definition IS used, but in the sense of average specimens, not fringes.

      We know the successful crossovers between humans and Neanderthals consisted of between half a dozen to a few hundred born to humans, one born to Neanderthals. Over something like 20,000 years. That's a low success rate.

    9. Re:Species? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      sorry, it's not what "we know", it's "what we could discover so far"

    10. Re: Species? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I seriously doubt text books as people produce fertile dog-wolf hybrids that you can go out and have as your pet.

    11. Re:Species? by Alci12 · · Score: 1

      Do we 'know' that or just think that. Given Humans wiped out the N (directly or indirectly) can we be that sure of the effectiveness of interbreading.

    12. Re: Species? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Incels aren't able to reproduce so I would argue that they are bastards rather than a sub-human species.

    13. Re: Species? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's a generic roll of the dice when mating. If both parents are on the fringe, the success of having offspring is low. But try and try again and you'll get the right combination of DNA to form a viable zygot to offspring.

    14. Re: Species? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Which textbooks are these, exactly? Considering that modern taxonomy considers wolves and dogs to be the same species, because it's now clear that they co-exist in the same habitat, I find your claim dubious.

    15. Re: Species? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are many examples of mixed species offspring that are able to reproduce due to keeping animals
      in captivity and allowed them to breed with other species.
      Not only can you buy wolf/dog hybrids but there are a few hybrids of domesticated cars with
      some different wild species.
      Now, name two species that has a subspecies with a different color, structural different hair, and
      different standard values for things like creatinine in blood work.

  12. Re: Science figuring out what we already know by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Creimette is the sweetest Denisovan that ever lived and the cave paintings have the proof of you can read the Neanderthal alphabet. It only has a couple of characters: an ancient cow being speared by hunters and the sun.

  13. Re:Science figuring out what we already know by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    how can god be a he but create female in his image
    he created trannies
    pretty cool
    i always knew i liked yasmin pires and andrezza lyra for a reason

  14. The more you shake the family tree ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The more you shake the family tree the more indiscretions fall out and the less pure bred the master race becomes.

    1. Re: The more you shake the family tree ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There once was a girl named Creimette.
      I will never forget how we met.
      She walked past my desk
      In a lavender dress
      What happened next? I forget

    2. Re: The more you shake the family tree ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i think i have that video
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

      they changed the names to protect the identity of the stupid

      i know why creimette has no teeth
      all those cinco products i guess

    3. Re: The more you shake the family tree ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Have you ever wondered to yourself: "Self, why am I wasting my life like this? I mean, seriously get a girl/boyfriend. Get some sunlight. Live."

  15. Re: it's a giant north american toothless it sasqu by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i thought the fuckers glowed in the dark
    what the hell are all these glowing fishes then

  16. Re:Science figuring out what we already know by james_gnz · · Score: 1

    how can god be a he but create female in his image

    AFAIK, the story goes that Yahweh created the first man in his image, then he created the first woman from the baculum (penis bone) he removed from the first man. (It's often said to be a rib bone, but I believe it was supposed to be the baculum.)

  17. Your Mom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is it your mom?

  18. "ghost population" of human ancestors. by grep+-v+'.*'+* · · Score: 1

    ALIENS. *FINALLY* someone is fessing up to it. Ob. link.

    And an AI found it. You realize it takes one to know one, right?

    --
    If the universe is someone's simulation -- does that mean the stars are just stuck pixels?
    1. Re:"ghost population" of human ancestors. by swell · · Score: 0

      It's fairly well understood by the literati that our genes were planted by aliens into our hairy ancestors eons ago. The literature is rich with what was once considered speculation. But the very repetition and consistent mantra has stood the test of time and proven itself worthy. Little green men (and possibly women) seeded our planet with the microscopic elements that transformed the destiny of some tree swingers; that is to create us.

      Had this not been so, our simian ancestors would have evolved into a truly enlightened species that respected each other and the planet on which they lived. Unfortunately, the alien seeding assured that we would be warlike and disrespectful to our environment. We were programmed to be clever, but not smart. We cleverly created tools that could be used for good or for evil, but we consistently used them for evil because we were not smart.

      Early thinkers imagined that it was their gift to us, but only now do we realize that programmed into our DNA is the drive to destroy ourselves and any sentient beings remaining on this planet. In the near future, our alien masters will return to take over the planet and enslave any remaining element of humanity.

      --
      ...omphaloskepsis often...
  19. Re: it's a giant north american toothless it sasq by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh they are the first wave. Unless you know the right codes you have to kill them all before you fight the boss

  20. Evolution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    âoeFake Newsâ

    - Donald âoeBald Bitchâ Trump

    1. Re: Evolution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Right quote, off by a president or two

  21. spoiler: it's actually cylons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    So say we all.

  22. There has to be a reason why the black ones are.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...stupider than the white and yellow ones.

    It all makes sense now.

    The original strain came from Africa and migrated north and east.

    They came in contact with Denisovans, Neanderthals and maybe another unknown one, and interbred.

    The resulting hybrids were smarter, but didn't move south or west much.

    Thus the blacks were concentrated in Africa where they archived pretty well nothing, and the smarter European and North East Asians went on to develop world spanning civilisations.

    The Australian Aboriginals and Arabs, Indians, South EAst Asians etc were more closely related to the original strain and thus weren't all that bright either, not until some whites or NE Asians bought some of their genes into their pools eventually.

    So, show me where that hypothesis falls down.

    Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's racist.

  23. Eve answered: The serpent deceived me, and I ate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For this reason, God sends them a powerful delusion(operation of wandering)(planet) so that they will believe the lie.

    Mystery Red of the Great American Eclipse
    It has blood on it!
    ABCNews: Eclipse makes pendulum wander

  24. Humans get around by sysrammer · · Score: 1

    "Every place I go there's always something to remind of of another place and time...."

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    His ignorance covered the whole earth like a blanket, and there was hardly a hole in it anywhere. - Mark Twain
  25. Re:Do the get protected status by sysrammer · · Score: 1

    No, this is a troll waste and reclamation site. Welcome.

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    His ignorance covered the whole earth like a blanket, and there was hardly a hole in it anywhere. - Mark Twain
  26. Probably dolphin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    People will fuck anything.

    1. Re: Probably dolphin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Correction: stupid libturds would fuck anything, including negroids

  27. species vs race by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "generation hybrid between the two species, with a Neanderthal mother and a Denisovan father."

    Since the two groups could mate and produce successful offspring, are they two species or two races?

  28. The single diaspora theory is a joke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Humans roamed, that is a fact. We are the most heavily adapted for roaming species on the on the planet. The single diaspora theory ignores this fact. Another fact seems to be that paleontologists are bad at math. They don't seem to be able comprehend numbers like 2^10,000 which would be the human population if all breeding lineages had a descendant living today. The fact is human packs wandered away from each other and then re-connected over and over with most of their lineages completely dying out. This seems to have usually occurred by the 7th generation.

    The point is that the genetic ties from today's population to its origins is inevitably tenuous. Just because there is a scientifically verifiable thread from today's population to a population that very likely originated in Africa absolutely can not be construed as evidence for the behavior of the 99.999995% of the people whose genes did not make it to today's population. We know that only 0.000005% of lineages on average propagated. The thread winds its way through history to us. But we survivors are a mathematically insignificant population. To assert that the path that led to us describes the behavior of the whole of humanity for all history is folly. By 250,000 years ago all the "good" parts of the planet that could be walked to by humans probably had been ... many times over. Almost always however, everyone died.

    What bad-at-math paleontologists are finally having to acknowledge is that there were some intermediary populations that segmented but survived long enough to remix with the more dominant thread that comprises the majority of everyone living's genes. It was a very messy business with probabilities so poor you can't even run a simulation because it keeps terminating before the required timeframes are accounted for. But you can recognize the general statistics involved and they certainly do not support a single diaspora.

    1. Re: The single diaspora theory is a joke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you sure paleontologists don't know this and don't understand "the math?" Because they have been saying that stuff for decades. How can they say it without understanding it? Do paleontologists just mindlessly parrot you?

  29. Re:Science figuring out what we already know by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 0

    Seth was a god ...
    And the kids of Adam and Eva were Kain and Abel ...

    Even I know that shit.

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  30. Re:Science figuring out what we already know by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

    Technically it only could have been the baculum, plus a heavy dose of female hormones.
    Luckily he was so good in surgery and hormone therapy, otherwise all women would be mega ugly and probably most men would be gay.

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  31. Re: Was he... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    kek

  32. Re:There has to be a reason why the black ones are by vux984 · · Score: 1

    "So, show me where that hypothesis falls down."

    South America.

  33. Re: There has to be a reason why the black ones ar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Only complete imbecile with a Down syndrome would interbreed with a shitty smelly hindu-chimp or sand monkey.

  34. Yeah. Hello by BadTuna · · Score: 1

    I heard you were looking for me?

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  35. Re: Science figuring out what we already know by sg_oneill · · Score: 0

    And Lo I called out to the heavens. "Heavenly father. Bringer of life, of harvests, of fertility. Ended of droughts and bringer of rain. For your sacred name is clouded in mystery. How am I to cry out when I know not thy sacred name"

    And a voice boomed out: "Gary. It's Gary, ok? Now sod off, I'm busy humping Mary's sweet ass"

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  36. Re:There has to be a reason why the black ones are by religionofpeas · · Score: 1

    Thus the blacks were concentrated in Africa where they archived pretty well nothing, and the smarter European and North East Asians went on to develop world spanning civilisations.

    Africa is a much easier place to survive without good planning and cooperation between different groups.

  37. Species and hotness by Joe+Branya · · Score: 2

    The commentator above is correct; scientists define a group as a separate species only if it can't interbreed with other closely related groups.

    Leave it to the lawyers to muddy the waters. The misnamed Endangered Species Act apparently defined a species as any separate breeding population (the Florida panthers, for example) in order to "extend the reach" of the law well beyond merely protecting endangered species. This is the usual example of lawyers and legislators using the law to try to redefine words for public relations purposes. The result is that the public- and the lawyers- now don't know what a species is. This is the left wing version of the unborn child gambit on the right.

    Personally, I think Neanderthal girls are hot. I keep hoping to meet one at the beach. They're really good at beach volleyball. Do Neanderthals girls qualify for NCAA athletic scholarships?

    1. Re:Species and hotness by Type44Q · · Score: 3, Funny

      They're really good at beach volleyball.

      Ever driven a Saab 900? Notice how, when you pulled up to a stoplight, you couldn't see the fucking thing if it was close because the roof-line extends too far forward? Your Neanderthal girl wouldn't see the ball coming; her giant unibrow would get in the way.

    2. Re:Species and hotness by Empiric · · Score: 2

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Species_concept

      No, they don't.

      That aside, per basic epistemology (e.g. Aristotle), there is a justification for a separate category for an entity when there's a unique characteristic differentiating that entity from all other entities.

      I'm going with "I have a soul" as my non-optional differentiating characteristic, as the most cursory analysis demonstrates there is no biological differentiator for the arbitrary distinctions between "hominids". Regardless of how many scientists subscribe to an arbitrary DNA division naming, and regardless if they try to non-sequitur philosophical gravitas by mimicking Latin naming conventions.

      The rest of you hominids and general animals who reject "soul", can propose your own.

      Spoiler alert: There isn't one, and if you claim you have, say, "rights" and Koko the gorilla doesn't, your stance is philosophically incoherent and you are deeply irrational on a profoundly fundamental level. At least you have a lot of company--with the rest of the secular Left.

      Evolution will fix you when you inevitably get naturally deselected though. Keep the "faith"!

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  38. Re: Was he... by c6gunner · · Score: 1

    Did you just presume xer gender?

  39. The aliens, obviously. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As in subject.

  40. Re: Science figuring out what we already know by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Cain, Abel, and Seth were brothers. Cain killed Abel, and was banished. That left Seth, and any later siblings.

  41. Re:Was he... by nospam007 · · Score: 1

    Homo Orangus

  42. Re:There has to be a reason why the black ones are by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Unfortunately for your idea, it's become apparent over the last 30 (well 120 really) or so years that civilization (part 1 of 3 btw) began in Indonesia at least 20000 ybp and they spread out after the younger dryas impact and kept the momentum going.

    Whether you analyse the stories of Java, aboriginal, Mayan, Incan, Vedic, Egyptian, Persian, Pacific Island or even freaking Plato (yes, good old whitey Plato), they *all* point to a seafaring, city building, monolith lifting civilization based in SE Asia as the kickstart for modern civilization. Oh, yes, at a depth of around 125m, from western India to Japan, we find a number of submerged stone age cities. fact.

    Hell, we've already carbon dated the DNA in the cement core samples taken from Gunang Padang, and the 20 000 year date is trying to be conservative.

    This genetic find seems to correlate with the final remaining data point that older archo/paleo guys refuse to budge on. Although tbe 1144 suspected pyramids in China will hopefully yield even more data over the coming centuries, just to put a nail in the "civilization started in near middl east 6000 ybp, just as it says in the bible" bollocks that has underpinned our history classes for centuries.

    Oh, I forgot....the skn color of those peoples at the time was....black.
    Sorry to burst the old testament bubble and weird skin-color based outlook.

  43. The Denisovan Menace by ChrisMaple · · Score: 1

    Has Hank Ketcham been asked for his insight in this matter?

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  44. Re:Was he... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It was Danny Dyer.

  45. Re:Science figuring out what we already know by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

    Fortunately for me you got both ends of that stick and I'm strait and beautiful. Not too smart though...

  46. Really bad Slashdot summary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The quotes at the end of the summary do not represent the actual research paper. The summary represents the words of Smithsonianmag.com as those of the report and Smithsonianmag.com is wrong. This is incredibly sloppy. Well if it wasn't Slashdot that seems to have employed some creatures not found in the homo genus.

  47. Re:Science figuring out what we already know by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

    I'm unfortunately straight too ... or is it a myth that gays have more sex? No idea :P

    As long as my wife says I'm beautiful, I'm happy ...

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  48. Re:Science figuring out what we already know by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

    So you like when your wife lies to you? As for the gay sex thing, its probably a lie just like strait guys do.

  49. Re: Was he... by tomhath · · Score: 1

    90,000 year old teenage girl.

    Or a Supreme Court justice who falls down a lot.

  50. Re:Science figuring out what we already know by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

    If she is only lying about my beauty, sure I do. Like everyone else. Perhaps she only loves me because I'm good in bed ... but who knows. OR because I'm the only male she knows who can cook ... and I'm not already drunk 16:00. Women are a mystery, you know. Who will ever know why they love an unshowered, unshaved, farang? But: I'm not bald, have all my teeth and no belly, only muscles. Perhaps that helps.

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  51. Cylons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Has to be Cylons.

  52. Re:Science figuring out what we already know by Quirkz · · Score: 1

    Nah, it's a case of poor translation because they didn't have the tech. God took out part of a chromosome. This means the first human was a female (XX) and God made a male by turning the clone into XY.

    Also, the Garden of Eden was a seed-ship with cloning capabilities, and God was the AI on the ship. The flaming swords were either a laser system that protected the ship, or its rockets as it took off and left the people behind.

    The story just got muddled because ancient Hebrew didn't have the right words for this stuff.