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New "Metallic Wood" Is As Strong As Titanium But Much Lighter (dwell.com)

Titanium "has long been touted as the metal of the future," writes Dwell, "due to its strength, rust resistance, and amazing lightness." But can careful atom-stacking lead to something better?

An anonymous reader writes: Researchers have discovered a way to create a new "metallic wood" material that is as strong as titanium, but five times lighter, reports Dwell. "So far, the researchers have built a sheet of nickel with nanoscale pores that is almost 70 percent empty space... It was created by building tiny plastic spheres, suspending them in water, allowing the water to evaporate, and then electroplating the spheres with nickel. Researchers then dissolved the plastic spheres, producing an incredibly strong, porous metal that floats on water."
Researchers are also considering the possibility of filling its empty space with an energy-storing material. "For example, a prosthetic leg made from this material and infused with anode and cathode materials, could also be a battery."

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  1. Hyperion Tree Ships coming by known_coward_69 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Just need to make some FTL engines

  2. not a difficult question or surprising result by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    "But can careful atom-stacking lead to something better? " - OBVIOUSLY? Regardless of any other factor of course. Aligned structures >strength> unaligned random structures. This isn't rocket science, this is a basic crystal lattice.
       

    1. Re:not a difficult question or surprising result by Aighearach · · Score: 2

      You were doing great until you misused the word crystal. Come on, this isn't something hard like rocket surgery, or brain science.

    2. Re:not a difficult question or surprising result by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny
    3. Re:not a difficult question or surprising result by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

      This sounds like a new type of syntactic foam.

      An obvious application is in aviation and aerospace.

    4. Re:not a difficult question or surprising result by TAW_Sr · · Score: 1

      Hmm, you use a lot of homosexual terms to insult people. Is there something you want to tell the class?

  3. More like a sponge than wood by divide+overflow · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Metal sponges are already a thing, only difference between this material and existing metal sponges is the pore size and creation method. This method described is somewhat similar to the way that aerogels are produced. These metal sponges aren't like wood...wood is a composite that derives much of its strength from its fibrous grain.

    1. Re:More like a sponge than wood by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      It's just a different grain structure. Wood is organically deposited along sap channels. Metal foams are sprayed all at once without that structure development. Micro-deposition into a synthetic grain structure could be much stronger.

      A composite in a metallic-crystalline structure that self-aligns into a rigid-yet-ductile form at a certain temp/pressure/catalyst, etc, that's the grail. It follows that atomic deposition is going to make stronger bonds than macro-deposits.

    2. Re:More like a sponge than wood by divide+overflow · · Score: 1

      Correct, and furthers my point that describing it as "metallic wood" is both misleading and inaccurate.

    3. Re:More like a sponge than wood by denzacar · · Score: 3, Funny

      To be fair "New "Metallic Ass" Is As Strong As Titanium But Much Lighter" simply doesn't have quite the same sound to it.

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    4. Re: More like a sponge than wood by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Well, no, particle board is not made of "particles" nor is it a "board", it's a pressed woodchip loaf without the structure of a board. Engineered LUMBER is the term, which is a double misnomer. Metallic wood is metal with wood-application structures to replace regular wood with metal.

      Sorry you want to pick some nits but not others, it just doesn't work that way.

    5. Re:More like a sponge than wood by gravewax · · Score: 2

      A metallic sponge would better describe its composition or metallic foam.

    6. Re:More like a sponge than wood by NicknameUnavailable · · Score: 1

      If they can figure out how to get the air out of the pockets we might be able to make floating (in the air) cities.

  4. "Five times lighter"cathode by Bradmont · · Score: 4, Interesting

    When did measures like "five times lighter" and "100 times smaller" become accepted? Comparisons don't work that way...

    1. Re:"Five times lighter"cathode by gumpish · · Score: 1

      This bugs me as well.

      "10 times slower"
      "Twice as cold"
      "20% thinner"

      It's all nonsense. The marketing types sure didn't help when they decided to start saying shit like "This laptop is just 0.75 inches thin."

    2. Re:"Five times lighter"cathode by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Of course it makes sense: 5 times lighter means it's clearly negative 4 times the density of titanium. And if it costs 3 times less, hell, they'll pay you twice the cost of titanium to take it off their hands!

    3. Re:"Five times lighter"cathode by dinfinity · · Score: 1

      That would be 0.8 times lighter, which does make sense.
      Incidentally that is probably what the authors of TFA tried to say when they said 5 times lighter.

    4. Re:"Five times lighter"cathode by JesseMcDonald · · Score: 1

      There's nothing wrong in principle with "20% thinner"; it means the original thickness reduced by 20%, or 80% as thick.

      I agree that the other examples are nonsense, though. "Five times lighter" would be a negative weight (the original weight minus five times the original weight), and the same goes for "10 times slower". Unless they've figured out anti-gravity or time travel...

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    5. Re:"Five times lighter"cathode by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      Journalists are seldom drained in maths, mechanics or physics. Just think how many articles on the electricity industry describe a power station's capacity in 'megawatts per day,' or the ill-defined unit of 'enough power for 100,000 houses.'

    6. Re: "Five times lighter"cathode by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      You can measure how heavy something is, but how do you measure how light it is?

      By means of an inverse, obviously. Funny how English-speaking people here are the only ones having comprehension problems with this. Somehow, everyone else grasps the concept readily.

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    7. Re: "Five times lighter"cathode by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      Of course they work this way just fine. Why wouldn't they?

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    8. Re: "Five times lighter"cathode by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      I agree that the other examples are nonsense, though. "Five times lighter" would be a negative weight (the original weight minus five times the original weight)

      Why the hell would it mean anything else than weight diminished by a factor of five? Even just common sense tells you it can't possibly be negative weight anyway, since there's no such thing. I swear you Americans are just trolling the rest of the world with this shit, since nobody else has any comprehension problems with that.

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    9. Re:"Five times lighter"cathode by Muros · · Score: 1

      Wrong. D is 0.99 times lighter than A, 0.9875 times lighter than B, and 0.9833 times lighter than C.

      Disagree? Then use unambiguous language.

    10. Re: "Five times lighter"cathode by JesseMcDonald · · Score: 1

      Why ... would it mean anything else than weight diminished by a factor of five?

      Because if they'd meant that they would have said either "80% lighter than" or "one-fifth as heavy as". Phrases of the form "X times less than Y" (including "lighter than", "smaller than", etc.) are a literal translation of the formula "Y - (X * Y)" into natural language.

      Unless perhaps you're defining "lightness" idiosyncratically as the reciprocal of weight, in which case "5 times lighter" really would equal "one-fifth as heavy". That's the difference between "X times as conductive" and "X times as resistive", because conductivity is defined as the reciprocal of resistance. Approximately no one actually thinks of "lightness" that way, however. (Quick check: Does "20% lighter" mean subtracting 20% of the weight, or adding 20% to the reciprocal of the weight? 80% as heavy, or 83% as heavy? Most would say the former.)

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  5. Re:Isn't Nickel biologically toxic? by divide+overflow · · Score: 1

    Nobody actually suggested using nickel internally...they mentioned its possible use when constructing an artificial leg. Presumably it would be used inside the prosthesis, not within the body or in direct contact with it.

  6. Re:Isn't Nickel biologically toxic? by Psion · · Score: 1

    Nickel is an essential nutrient. Without it, you'd be quite dead. Large quantities of it may be dangerous, but as Paracelsus pointed out: "It's the dose that makes the poison", and that's pretty much true of everything that's good for you.

  7. Re:Battery prosthetics by divide+overflow · · Score: 1

    Just what we need, prosthetic legs spontaneously catching on fire.

    We TOTALLY need that. Think of the youtube videos....

  8. Metallic Foam is ... by pz · · Score: 4, Informative

    Metallic foam is already well understood.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    https://www.tms.org/pubs/journ...

    (see especially Figure 4 on that page which REALLY looks like metallic wood; the stuff in the article doesn't so much)

    What makes the the linked article interesting is the novel manufacturing method.

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    1. Re:Metallic Foam is ... by divide+overflow · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the links. They are both interesting and informative.

  9. Cool by chaboud · · Score: 1

    This looks like the micro/nano version of making a pseudo-foam metal by casting in salts and later dissolving the salts.

    Laminated between sheets of metal, I'd expect this to kick ass.

  10. this might actually be real by cats-paw · · Score: 1

    I can't remember the last time one of these sorts of PR articles from a University research lab actually made me think it might mean something.

    The idea behind this is solid (BTW, is this comparable in a general way to aerogels ?), it's a matter of finding a scalable manufacturing method.

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  11. Re:Isn't Nickel biologically toxic? by ChrisMaple · · Score: 3, Informative

    I took the trouble to actually look at some internet sources on nickel. It's common in foods, and people typically ingest about 200 micrograms a day, probably a lot more than is needed and a lot less than is toxic. Knowledge of the human biological use of nickel is still rather sparse, but it appears to help the body absorb iron and create prolactin, among other things.

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  12. Expensive by ChrisMaple · · Score: 1

    I skimmed the second citation. I may have missed a critical portion, but it looks like they're using a nickel-rhenium alloy. Rhenium is rare in the earth (about 1 part per billion) and not cheap.

    They're not going to be using this stuff to make car bodies or skyscrapers.

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  13. Metallic Wood As Strong As Titanium by rv6502 · · Score: 1

    I'm stealing that title for my Robocop fanfic.

    On a more serious note: won't the tiny plastic spheres embedded in the electroplated metals be a giant source of microplastics and turn into an environmental disaster during the recycling process?

  14. Finally..... by drew_92123 · · Score: 1

    The perfect material for ultra light ultralights.... imagine how much less they'll weight....

  15. Light strong material used as a battery by Residentcur · · Score: 1

    At the more raucous parties back in the day, we'd joke about someone's leg being on fire and then douse it with whatever beverage we were drinking. If this material were used for prosthetic purposes, the gag could become reality. A lithium fueled amputation wouldn't be pleasant, though, I'd expect.

  16. Re:"hardly" impressive by divide+overflow · · Score: 1

    Hmmm, do you have a background in O-Chem?