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Publishers Chafe At Apple's Terms For 'Netflix For News' Subscription Service As It Demands a 50 Percent Revenue Cut (wsj.com)

Zorro shares a report from The Wall Street Journal: Apple's plan to create a subscription service for news is running into resistance from major publishers over the tech giant's proposed financial terms (Warning: source may be paywalled; alternative source), according to people familiar with the situation, complicating an initiative that is part of the company's efforts to offset slowing iPhone sales. In its pitch to some news organizations, the Cupertino, Calif., company has said it would keep about half of the subscription revenue from the service, the people said. The service, described by industry executives as a "Netflix for news," would allow users to read an unlimited amount of content from participating publishers for a monthly fee. It is expected to launch later this year as a paid tier of the Apple News app, the people said. The rest of the revenue would go into a pool that would be divided among publishers according to the amount of time users spend engaged with their articles, the people said. Representatives from Apple have told publishers that the subscription service could be priced at about $10 a month, similar to Apple's streaming music service, but the final price could change, some of the people said.

Another concern for some publishers is that they likely wouldn't get access to subscriber data, including credit-card information and email addresses, the people said. Credit-card information and email addresses are crucial for news organizations that seek to build their own customer databases and market their products to readers. Digital subscriptions are powering growth at big publishers including the Times, whose basic monthly subscription costs $15, the Post, which charges $10, and the Journal, which charges $39. Some of those companies are skeptical about giving up too much control to Apple, or cannibalizing their existing subscriptions to sign up lower-revenue Apple users, according to people familiar with the matter.

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  1. How ironic by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Apple's plan to create a subscription service for news is running into resistance from major publishers over the tech giant's proposed financial terms (Warning: source may be paywalled)

    For some reason that just made me laugh.

    I think 50% is absurdly high, as a percentage for Apple.

    But on the other hand, m as a consumer I cannot imagine a price above $0 I would be willing to pay for a "Netflix of News". I already place so little value on a wide range of news I can get for free, what value could this service possibly have? The only thing I can maybe see people getting this would before a slight reduction in the price of a WSJ and NYT together, maybe enough people want to do that Apple's service will be viable.

    But I doubt it... since Apple News today is already free and I hardly use it.

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    1. Re:How ironic by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Wait, what? I mean, all the news sources have to do is hire and pay the staff, cover travel and investigation costs, spend months investigating, write, edit, vet and generate the content, format it, deliver it. Apple has the heavy lifting of putting that news into a supersized RSS feed. CLEARLY they are being generous with the news sources, if anything!

      /sarc

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    2. Re:How ironic by rtb61 · · Score: 2

      Well, look at is this way, if you provide a free news subscription and make you money in another way, 50% of nuthin is nuthin. Personally outside of specialised news, general news is simply not worth subscribing too in terms of paying for it. Paying is a real lock in, they own your news now, you are bound to watch what you are paying for, rather than what you do not and will you choose to believe what you pay for or will you reason out something else based upon a broad spread of news.

      How news of public importance is funded is a matter of great importance and perhaps it is time to look at it in a more sound, reasonable and realistic manner. Clearly the major News Empire in the Western Liberal space, are entirely corrupt in their censorship of real news and the delivery of empty palp and corporate propaganda parading as news, selling purposefully overpriced commercials, everyone knows what they are really paying and what is really being sold with those commercials and it aint the news, it is corporate marketing pretending to be news and that is what the advertising are paying for.

      Let's be blunt, that model has well and truly reached it's used by date, now publicly rotten with a clear stench, well past it's use by date and desperately trying to extend it's existence in a space where it no longer should exist. Apple's message perhaps, provide it free, don't expect to lie to people for a profit, kind of funny. Apple are not charging 50%, technically they are applying a 100% penalty for trying to sell corporate propaganda as news.

      Specialist news subscriptions will always be direct and have real measures of fiscal worth. General news is meant to be of public worth and hence inherently funded by the public to ensure veracity and neutrality and they would have to prove so in court when challenged and face criminal penalties for failure. News a protected profession and a protected word as in professional News Journalists much like lawyer with some real criminal penalties for failure to adhere to the truth.

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    3. Re:How ironic by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 2

      Depends. If it's just news like we get now for free (headlines and short articles), there's no point in paying for it. But what if you got access to everything, the big background articles, the editorials? And what if it also covered full articles from publications like the Economist? There's plenty of stuff that I'd want to read but it's all paywalled, and there's not quite enough to justify a full subscription, certainly not to all publications in which I am interested. A pay-per-view or Netflix model might suit me just fine... even if I don't see why 50% of my money should go to Apple for that.

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  2. Re:users too... by hey! · · Score: 3, Informative

    The Dutch outfit *The Correspondent* has developed a subscription news service -- no advertisers, no eyeball selling to third parties. They get 100% of their revenue from their readers. And they just finished a successful crowdfunding campaign to start up in the US.

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  3. Translation by Luthair · · Score: 2

    Back in the paper days we used to collect this information and sell it to third parties unbeknownst to subscribers. Also, we don't recognize the irony in writing about Facebook and privacy.

  4. Walled garden by AHuxley · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Welcome to the city.
    50% to set up shop. Protected by the city walls.

    Free speech is a sin.
    Curation of news can happen.
    No Taiwan flag. No Tiananmen square.
    Nothing that is offensive to a Communist party.

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    1. Re:Walled garden by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And since we're americans, guns and blood are ok but nudity and female nipples are not.

  5. Re:Shut the fuck up publishers by easyTree · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I foresee a future where people are paid to view news. This is completely reasonable since news stopped being about informing people and became more about pushing an agenda. So it's pay me to occupy my brain with your viewpoint. Like a billboard.

  6. Re:Why ? by Cassini2 · · Score: 2

    If you are willing to pay for news, you want good news. The problem is that if you subscribe to the Wall Street Journal, then you aren't going to get good local coverage, unless you live in Washington.

    The holy grail is to develop a business model that pays for good investigative journalism, and can cover local, national, and international stories. This is what Apple is proposing. A funding model where you get premium local content as well as premium national and international content.

    I can only see two ways for this to happen:
    a) For someone like Apple or Google to create a paid news service, or
    b) For someone like the Wall Street Journal or the New York Times to purchase large numbers of papers, and become so large that they control all the news: local, national and international.

    Interestingly, whoever creates the service will have huge market power in the news industry. Personally, I think (a) will be more democratic, because they will likely reward people with good stories with more money. However, it is really hard to tell how this will shake out. The only given is that the local papers are dying with no long-term revenue model. Something like this has to happen for the local papers to survive as quasi-independent outfits.

  7. Re:Why ? by monkeyxpress · · Score: 2

    Don't get it. I can read all day. I subscribe to two major papers. Why pay Apple ?

    This isn't about you. It is about Apple desperately trying to find a way to plug the iPhone profit gap. Sales for smartphones will continue to decline across all markets as the industry has simply matured and reached market saturation. For Apple that is a really serious problem, because wall street bankers demand ever increasing profits, and making a reliable multi-billion dollar bottom line year on year is not important to them (they have already capitalised that and pocketed their fees).

    If Tim Cook and his board cannot continue to deliver next big thing profits, then the bankers will stuff the board with people who will push for short term profit seeking, and we will see Apple stripped of its biggest asset (loyal customers). This is generally how companies die once they lose a strong leader who can keep the wolfs at bay (with promises of even bigger profits if they don't raid the larder today). It happens every day in the private equity world. Welcome to vulture capitalism.

  8. Concern? by thomn8r · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Another concern for some publishers is that they likely wouldn't get access to subscriber data, including credit-card information and email addresses

    Boo-fucking-hoo