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FCC Says Gutting ISP Oversight Was Great For Broadband (vice.com)

Earlier this week, the FCC proclaimed that broadband connectivity saw unprecedented growth last year thanks to the agency's policies like killing net neutrality. But, as Motherboard points out, that's not entirely true. The lion's share of improvements highlighted by the agency "are courtesy of DOCSIS 3.1 cable upgrades, most of which began before Pai even took office and have nothing to do with FCC policy," the report says. "Others are likely courtesy of build-out conditions affixed to AT&T's merger with DirecTV, again the result of policies enacted before Pai was appointed head of the current FCC." Also, last year's FCC report, which showcased data up to late 2016, "showed equal and in some instances faster growth in rural broadband deployment -- despite Pai having not been appointed yet." From the report: The broadband industry's biggest issue remains a lack of competition. That lack of competition results in Americans paying some of the highest prices for broadband in the developed world, something the agency routinely fails to mention and does so again here. [...] Still, Pai was quick to take a victory lap in the agency release. "For the past two years, closing the digital divide has been the FCC's top priority," Pai said in a press release. "We've been tackling this problem by removing barriers to infrastructure investment, promoting competition, and providing efficient, effective support for rural broadband expansion through our Connect America Fund. This report shows that our approach is working." One of those supposed "barriers to broadband investment" were the former FCC's net neutrality rules designed to keep natural monopolies like Comcast from behaving anti-competitively.

"Overall, capital expenditures by broadband providers increased in 2017, reversing declines that occurred in both 2015 and 2016," the FCC claimed, again hinting that the repeal of net neutrality directly impacted CAPEX and broadband investment. A problem with that claim: the FCC's latest report only includes data up to June 2018, the same month net neutrality was formally repealed. As such the data couldn't possibly support the idea that the elimination of net neutrality was responsible for this otherwise modest growth. Another problem: that claim isn't supported by ISP earnings reports or the public statements of numerous telecom CEOs, who say net neutrality didn't meaningfully impact their investment decisions one way or another. Telecom experts tell Motherboard that's largely because such decisions are driven by a universe of other factors, including the level of competition (or lack thereof) in many markets.

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  1. Habitual liars run the government? by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 4, Informative

    Lying has become a standard policy in the U.S. government.

    1. Re:Habitual liars run the government? by SirAstral · · Score: 0

      Since when was it not standard? Can you think of a time? Can you think of any government that did not start off lying?

      The entire premise of vote for me and I will do something for you is a "Liar's Game" and nothing else. People think they need government when in reality, government needs people more.

      The Governments of mankind have caused more death and suffering of humans than all wars, disasters, or crime has. Think about that for a minute. Additionally, the first people wanting Democracy are the ones that want Governments to have the most power, when in fact, if democracy was actually possible Governments would not be necessary.

      The pernicious ignorance and stupidity of voters will always guarantee that the worst and most bombastic but convicing liars will gain election... each attempting to surpass those that have gone before them. Trump and AOC are great examples of this.

      If you feel that you must have government run your life then you should configure it's operation as though nothing but liars, thieves, and your worst enemies will fill it's ranks.

    2. Re:Habitual liars run the government? by fustakrakich · · Score: 0

      Lying is what wins elections. Why do you suppose that is?

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    3. Re: Habitual liars run the government? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You will get no support for me now.

      I have changed my mind, I have learned to love Big Brother after taking it up the ass.

    4. Re:Habitual liars run the government? by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Lying is a requirement to get appointed or elected.

    5. Re:Habitual liars run the government? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Without government things are even worse. Anarchists have rosy, fairy-tale notions of a happy, technologically-advanced society that is functional and maintains that level of functionality without governance.

      It is an utter farce. If our government just up and vanished today and we tried to keep things moving, we would instantly see the corporate monopolies step in as de-facto governments. And they would operate as utterly tyrannical dictatorships. It would be awful, but thankfully short, as the rioting and destruction would make it all crumble under its own weight. Most of us would immediately slaughter each other in the mad scramble for food in densely-populated cities that no longer have a steady stream of deliveries, and the survivors would promptly get wiped out by some neighboring country, with a government to organize it, that moves in and mops up.

      Governance is a necessary evil. Its necessity does not diminish its evil, nor does its evil diminish its necessity. Any civilian that forgets the "evil" bit and starts treating the government like a trusted ally will get screwed over.

      Government must be watched like a hawk, always distrusted, always held accountable. But it can never be escaped.

    6. Re: Habitual liars run the government? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Interesting

      Proven - established by facts, vetted by experts, exposed and sitting in plain sight. Proven. Trump's lies about his finances are numerous, that changes nothing.

      Well documented.

      The KGB and its current form, the FSB, have been "partnering with Donald Trump" for over 20 years, according to Unger. He said the president has been laundering money for the Russians and the Soviet Union before that. Unger said the best way to launder money is real estate.

      "Trump says he has no contacts with Russia. I found 59 people and -- who were in a meeting between Trump and Russia. And I traced them over the years. And I found not just hundreds of millions, perhaps billions of dollars in money laundering from the Russian mafia using Trump properties," he reported.

      "They approached him as a powerful businessman, and that was sort of it," Unger said of the Soviets. "And I believe it started out as laundering money. When the Soviet Union crumbled, there were enormous amounts of flight capital that needed to be laundered. And what is the best way to launder money? It is through real estate."

      There are literally hundreds of publications that have published the fact that Trump has shady real estate deals with Putin-connected Russians, which he lied about unconvincingly from day 1.

      Just because Trump doesn't tell the truth doesn't mean you can't establish facts without him admitting they are true. See - nukes in NK, golfing 4x more than Obama, etc.

      If you can't admit that Trump has lied about just about every single topic of discussion, you probably don't live an honest life yourself, to be perfectly realistic about this.

    7. Re:Habitual liars run the government? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lock them both up. I hope they share a cell.

    8. Re:Habitual liars run the government? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lying has become a standard policy in the U.S. government.

      Indeed.

      If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor.

      If you like your insurance plan, you can keep your insurance plan.

      Bottom line - you can't trust the government.

      Anyone who says otherwise is, umm, lying.

    9. Re: Habitual liars run the government? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You misspelled 'hang'

    10. Re:Habitual liars run the government? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Said the idiot trusting Donald Trump, University provost, contractor, landlord, casino magnate? Lol.

    11. Re: Habitual liars run the government? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You will ignore current crimes because people have gotten away with past crimes? That makes zero sense.

    12. Re:Habitual liars run the government? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you feel that you must have government run your life then you should configure it's operation as though nothing but liars, thieves, and your worst enemies will fill it's ranks.

      So how does this differ from my family, friends, neighbors, school, workplace, church, car, plane, train or bus?

    13. Re:Habitual liars run the government? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So was this the plan: Vote in trump knowing he's a shit and that this will both undo the stuff done by the democrats, especially that darkie president, and his criminal incompetence will be further grist for your anti-government libertarian dogma, as long as you ensure that ALL government is tarred with the brush YOU voted into office, knowing how criminal he was?

    14. Re:Habitual liars run the government? by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 1

      Lying is what wins elections. Why do you suppose that is?

      Because when you watch and listen to propaganda that keeps yelling "EVERYONE IS LYING TO YOU!" 24/7/365 and that only they can be trusted then you don't actually know who is telling the truth.

      When you don't know what the truth is then it's easy to be swayed into believing convenient sounding lies that the propaganda keeps repeating.

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    15. Re:Habitual liars run the government? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The smugness is strong with this one. Asshat he is. Hmmmph. Too stupid for the training he is.

    16. Re:Habitual liars run the government? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dumb fucking Yoda impression, dude. Weak sauce. Please try to troll better next time, asshat.

    17. Re:Habitual liars run the government? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...and don't forget, President of The United States!

      Holy Christ, are we fucked!

    18. Re:Habitual liars run the government? by fustakrakich · · Score: 0

      Yeah, I guess taking the initiative to actually seek out the truth is too much to ask.

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    19. Re:Habitual liars run the government? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Weak sauce---like when your father pissed into your mother to conceive you?

    20. Re: Habitual liars run the government? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Comforting lies, because people want to believe shit.

    21. Re: Habitual liars run the government? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Obama lied about Hillary's email server.

    22. Re:Habitual liars run the government? by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 1

      Please, do not write as if I had any control over it.

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    23. Re:Habitual liars run the government? by fustakrakich · · Score: 0

      Everybody has control over themselves, don't take it as a personal offense, unless you're trying to distract from the issue.

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    24. Re:Habitual liars run the government? by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 1

      Yes, everyone does but a lot of people are really shitty. Most of these shitty people are Republicans, so please take your gripes to them.

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    25. Re:Habitual liars run the government? by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

      No, this is your fight. From here, everybody's just blowing smoke. You can save the GOP/DNC bullshit

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    26. Re:Habitual liars run the government? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow! Heavy mod bombing from an "interested" party up there! You can always tell when you hit the core!

      S'alright guys! You always win. Don't forget to claim your prize

  2. what a load of shit.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    telco upgrades and dsl expansion around here have slowed to a halt, fiber upgrades discontinued. tv service (via wireline) discontinued. service more expensive than ever. caps coming.

    cableco headends were ripped out of every service area within 150 miles, now fed by a single, and vulnerable to severing (happens at least once a year, takes out cableco delivered phone, tv and internet service), fiber to a distant city's plant. costs skyrocking and service more limited than ever (caps).

    cellular data is going away. end of story there. only along an interstate highway will 4g be available. rural areas are losing their data. costs of course going up for those who will still be able to get it.

    fuck shitpile pai.

    1. Re:what a load of shit.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Where I live, prices have not dropped, quality of service has not increased, new competing options have not been made available.

      Exactly nothing connectivity-related has gotten better.

    2. Re: what a load of shit.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Guess it must be where you live. I live in southern Kansas in a small rural town of 2000. Along with my town, I know of several other small towns that had fiber run to their homes. Quality and service went up and prices stayed the same.

    3. Re:what a load of shit.. by knewter · · Score: 1

      I live in a rural area. I use a Verizon MiFi with an unlimited data plan, that was mandated by the FCC in exchange for Verizon getting a chunk of spectrum. I get 34mbps wirelessly, which is enough and beats the crap out of the ~2mbps DSL available.

      I live very far from the interstate and have very nice 4g - I wouldn't have been able to purchase my 45 acre plot of land for cheap if not for wireless data, because I work from home and depend on internet. I pay $45/mo for unlimited data.

      You seem like you're making shit up, nice work!

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  3. Habitual liars run the TRUMP government by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Certainly it's a requisite trait in any Trump administration cabinet level hire apparently. At least after they do the damage like Zinke, they will almost certainly face charges for their casual criminal attitudes. Drain swamps, fill prisons.
       

    1. Re:Habitual liars run the TRUMP government by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not lies. Just alternate facts.

  4. Predicting future is tough by iMadeGhostzilla · · Score: 1

    We went from "killing the NN will be the end of the Internet as we know it" to "unprecedented growth in broadband connectivity last year" not being "entirely true" due to to FCC policies.

    The sky still might fall, but for now I hope the folks who claim with complete confidence what will happen in the country and the world might want to reappraise their other claims.

    1. Re:Predicting future is tough by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nobody predicted it would happen "overnight" as you seem to be suggesting. That's just retarded.

    2. Re:Predicting future is tough by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, because all bad things happen immediately. It's going to be death by a thousand cuts, and all the while there'll still be rubes like you kicking dirt and going "Gee, it doesn't seem so bad TO ME!"

  5. Ajit Pai. His name rhymes with 'lie'. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Coincidence? Probably, but still...

  6. Yawn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Corrupt official, part of an even more corrupt administration, produced a "factually challenged" report. News at 11.

  7. Lying is easy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    when people don't know the details.

    1. Re:Lying is easy by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

      Lying is easy when people aren't interested in the details. Nobody cares. When people do start caring, you will see completely different election results.

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  8. How about a more accurate title, ./? by Sebby · · Score: 1

    Like: "FCC Falsely Says Gutting ISP Oversight Was Great For Broadband"

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    1. Re:How about a more accurate title, ./? by bobstreo · · Score: 1

      Like: "FCC Falsely Says Gutting ISP Oversight Was Great For Broadband"

      More like:

      " FCC Says Gutting ISP Oversight Was Great For Broadband Providers"

      Not so much for their customers.

  9. don't forget by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    Don't forget to thank Obama for putting Pai on the FCC board.

    1. Re:don't forget by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      Actually he nominated Pai AT THE DIRECT SUGGESTION OF MCCONNEL to keep the bipartisan makeup of the panel, as was the custom just those few short years ago before Trump's treasonous autocratic gambles.

      Pai was the Republican choice and Obama obliged them. One can question the wisdom of catering to that spineless dick cozy Mitchy bitch, but in the end it was SOP to keep the panel bipartisan and Obama did that.

      (Your dishonesty does not surprise anyone, GOP cowards.)

    2. Re: don't forget by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why? Mitch McConnell nominated him, and he personally is just one stooge among many.

      It wouldn't matter who was there, they would do the same thing. They are taking orders from a stable genius.

    3. Re:don't forget by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      Actually he nominated Pai AT THE DIRECT SUGGESTION OF MCCONNEL to keep the bipartisan makeup of the panel, as was the custom just those few short years ago before Trump's treasonous autocratic gambles.

      The problem was, that while Obama tried to reach out, be reasonable, get buy in from the republicans for things, they didn't bother. Their idea of bipartisanship was give us 95% of what we want.

      I can blame, yet forgive Obama for not speaking out more forcefully towards the end of the election about what was going on. I'm not entirely sure it was the wrong decision, since it might have been spun as desperation on his part. Still, if there are two choices, and one better informs the voters, then I'll be biased to that one every time.

      I can blame and never forgive McConnell for the way he treated the attack on our country. It was McConnell that refused to act, when Obama wanted to send a bipartisan statement. Basically its SOP for republicans. Anything to win, period. The correct thing congress should have done is be open with the public. They also should have released Trump's tax returns, since how can the American people make an informed decision without data?

    4. Re:don't forget by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ok. Do you also thank Trump for allowing Pai to run it?

    5. Re:don't forget by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ahh yes revisionist history.

    6. Re:don't forget by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I believe that I said they both should be in jail. Both parties have a lot of explaining to do.

  10. They also forget to mention... by alzoron · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...that those net neutrality rules had never actually come into effect so claiming that killing them made things better wouldn't make any sense even if the rules were terrible.

    1. Re:They also forget to mention... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now they can start a multi-year project to design a new telecommunication legislation and regulation framework to address the challenges of the modern market place and ensure synergistically harmonious competitive environment for the greater future of the nation. It will be easy as pie considering the way this one small aspect of regulation was changed.

    2. Re:They also forget to mention... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...that those net neutrality rules had never actually come into effect so claiming that killing them made things better wouldn't make any sense even if the rules were terrible.

      Unless the ISPs weren't already making preparations for the new rules that they thought would be implemented.

  11. NPC83274 Praise Gay Judo Boss by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Excellent work NPC *74 black man bad.
    Gay Judo Boss will be pleased with us all.

    1. Re:NPC83274 Praise Gay Judo Boss by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dumb fucking "hip gamer" comment, dude. Weak sauce. Try to troll harder next time, comrade, or we will grind your family into sausages.

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  12. The government created this problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The government should have never gotten involved. They fucked up the free market and directly interfered with competitors in the days of cable TV roll-outs. They literally created the situation we have today by handing out monopolies. They were suppose to limit the price of cable, but then they eliminated that restriction. Mean while competition can't enter the market today because you now have an entrenched monopoly/duopoly situation. Anybody who enters the market today will be undermined by a competitor who has already paid off its loans and can out-compete. For the free market to work you can't hinder competition and particularly not in the early days of an industries formation.

  13. can we throw Pai in jail for treason by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    he literally is wasting air, that guy should be sent to the sun in a rocket for a one way trip

  14. Explain cable modem prices by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why have they been getting more expensive, opposite the trend of electronics in general?

  15. for broadband COMPANIES by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ftfy

  16. Re:Ajit Pai. His name rhymes with 'lie'. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Coincidence? Probably, but still...

    Given Pai was nominated to be on the FCC by by the demonstrable liar, Barack "If you like your plan, you can keep your plan..." Obama, you may be right.

    Yeah, that's it.

    You big fucking "I don't like his policies therefore he's a LIAR/CRIMINAL/ORANGE MAN BAD!!! BOOO HOOO HOO " baby.

    Awww, diddums have a tantrum when Trump won?

    Awww, pooor widdle baby.

    Go fuck yourself.

    Up the ass.

    With an old, badly splintered telephone pole. Dipped in flaming tar.

    You unthinking dolt.

  17. they like to rub it in.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    it must mean that they are about to do something even worst.

  18. Well you were wrong about it then by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But you haven't said that you believe that the government is lying now, have you? So you could still be wrong now and think that this administration isn't lying their arses off all the time. But you DID get your rant against that black man off, so well done you, racist.

  19. And you lie. Lots. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So therefore we should ignore you, and everyone who has lied, which is everyone. Or are you too busy beating your libertard drum about how ebil the big bad government is that you ignore the FACT that they're made of people and your stock whinge #542 is completely meaningless and void of thought?

  20. That means no internet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Government invention. No cables either, since government gives the right to access for the cablecos. So empty anti-government whinge from the braindead libertard fuckwit is detected.

  21. Too Soon. by jythie · · Score: 2

    One would not expect to see ANY significant changes one way or the other. While the FCC has punted on NN, it is still a public policy issue, is showing up in state legislation, and is working its way through various courts. Big ISPs are not going to make major changes, either in terms of building capacity or changing filtering policies until they have an idea of what the next decade or so is going to look like.

  22. NN Hasn't gone away yet by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    it's still tied up in courts. That said, my ISP didn't used to have bandwidth caps and they added them right after Trump got elected. That is not a coincidence.

    It can take years for the damage caused by bad policies and ideas to really be felt. That's the problem. It lets you shift the blame. This has been happening since at least Reagan. Folks elect a Republican for a change, the GOP wrecks shit, the Dem comes in and fixes as much as they can, doesn't fix everything in 8 years and then we get another Republican. Each time the cycle repeats a little ground is lost, so that real wages are down 20%.

    I understand folks don't like partisan politics, but the reality is that if you're somebody who works for a living (as opposed to somebody who either inherited money or just gets it from the stuff they own via rent seeking) then the GOP is not your friend. Enough folks have realized this that a Democratic Socialist has a real shot at the presidency.

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    1. Re:NN Hasn't gone away yet by iMadeGhostzilla · · Score: 2

      This is not about policy. If an honest candidate comes out with a Democratic Socialist platform and people vote for it, that's fine by me. Vox populi, vox dei -- the voice of the people is the voice of God, the basic principle of democracy. What I object to is the *mob*, the army of self-righteous leftists trying to shut down anyone who wanted to say why he might vote for Trump or disagree with mandatory gender neutral pronouns or why they think ending NN is not necessarily a bad idea and so on. Far worse than any policy is suppression of free discussion -- then it's guaranteed you'll end up in a hole. My rant is against them.

  23. Thank republicans for demanding it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But, hey, you gotta blame the n1gger somehow, aint'cha, you racist fuckwit.

    1. Re: Thank republicans for demanding it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He's not even black.

    2. Re:Thank republicans for demanding it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You brought race into the conversation. Clearly, you are the racist.

    3. Re: Thank republicans for demanding it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who isn't black? Obama or Pai?

  24. Heads we win, tails you lose by Kohath · · Score: 1

    -If broadband gets worse, advocates were right that the change would make it worse.
    -If broadband gets better, it would have happened anyway.
    -If there were problems before the change, those are irrelevant and coincidental.
    -If there are exactly the same problems after the change, those are because the rules changed.

    Nothing can ever shake the faith.

  25. "Not Entirely True" by NicknameUnavailable · · Score: 0

    Liberal for: true.
    Since of course, when there's ANYTHING about a thing they dislike which is wrong, it is a total lie, and spun as 100% wrong.
    The news outlets only pretend there's anything there when they can't pull at a thread to say the whole thing is wrong.

    1. Re:"Not Entirely True" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      fox news

    2. Re:"Not Entirely True" by NicknameUnavailable · · Score: 0

      fox news

      Literally liberal propaganda: liberals portraying conservative values in the dumbest way possible so as to discredit them.

    3. Re:"Not Entirely True" by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 2

      fox news

      Literally liberal propaganda: liberals portraying conservative values in the dumbest way possible so as to discredit them.

      • * Rupert Murdoch, a Republican owns Fox News Channel...
      • * Roger Ailes, a Republican founded and presided over Fox News Channel...
      • * All the anchors are either Republican or Independents on Fox News Channel...
      • * Almost every guest is a Republican...
      • * The audience is entirely Republican and Independents...

      but despite all that, it is still somehow liberal propaganda?

      Are you retarded?

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    4. Re:"Not Entirely True" by NicknameUnavailable · · Score: 0

      ...bunch of bs...

      Globalist liberals frequently pretend to be conservatives to discredit the policies, just look at McCain.

    5. Re:"Not Entirely True" by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 1

      Globalist liberals frequently pretend to be conservatives to discredit the policies

      Putting aside that it would literally be the dumbest con ever, why do so many conservatives watch Fox New Channel daily if it conflicts badly with their conservative views?

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    6. Re:"Not Entirely True" by NicknameUnavailable · · Score: 1

      Putting aside that it would literally be the dumbest con ever, why do so many conservatives watch Fox New Channel daily if it conflicts badly with their conservative views?

      For the same reason a bunch of liberals watch CNN: most people are retarded.

    7. Re:"Not Entirely True" by sweepkick · · Score: 1

      fox news

      Literally liberal propaganda: liberals portraying conservative values in the dumbest way possible so as to discredit them.

      Okay, this is, without a doubt, the dumbest fucking thing I've read in my 20+ years on Slashdot. It's so fucking stupid, it makes me wonder if *you're* a liberal attempting to discredit conservatives by portraying the dumbest fucking idea possible.

      If that is the case... well, trust me, conservatives do not need help in this. At all. They're doing fine all by themselves.

      If this is not the case, perhaps you should double-up on the thorazine and stick to finger-painting simplistic landscapes out in the institution's courtyard.

    8. Re:"Not Entirely True" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You certainly appear to be.

    9. Re:"Not Entirely True" by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 2

      For the same reason a bunch of liberals watch CNN: most people are retarded.

      People who watch CNN generally agree with the viewpoints presented Naturally, it follows that people who watch Fox News Channel generally agree with the viewpoints presented.

      Just because you do not like what the Republican party has morphed into doesn't make it any less Republican. Deluding yourself doesn't change this fact.

      The idea that it's owners/creators are liberal is absurd. They are pushing people toward right-wing fascism which is exactly the opposite of anything liberal and if it were a con then it would be highly counterproductive in achieving whatever legislative goals they had. The truth is they merely wish to profit while stoking fear which creates a feedback loop for viewership which explains their record of high ratings.

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    10. Re:"Not Entirely True" by NicknameUnavailable · · Score: 1

      People who watch CNN generally agree with the viewpoints presented Naturally, it follows that people who watch Fox News Channel generally agree with the viewpoints presented.

      My point wasn't that people don't agree, it was that most people are literally retarded - as in they don't have the capacity to form their own views and process what conservative or liberal actually mean from whichever set of base principles they have. People adopting the views of Fox News aren't conservative any more than people adopting the views of CNN are liberal - both groups are just dumb plebs so lazy or incapable of thought that they parrot what they hear. People who have well enough developed perspectives of either side don't need to watch the MSM to receive confirmation bias, because those concepts have already been internalized.

    11. Re:"Not Entirely True" by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 1

      Then if Fox New Channel was really run by liberals and their viewers believe what they say then wouldn't it make sense to push certain liberal ideas into their heads so that they could get leaders elected and legislation passed? What good is discrediting conservatism if you cannot then use it achieve your own goals?

      Here's a more plausible explanation: it's run by right-wing money-grubbing corporate fascists who took root in the Republican party back in the 80s after the Fairness Doctrine was ended. Now their fearmongering and demagoguery has gotten them a narcissistic simpleton who is puppet for foreign nation.

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      Anons need not reply. Questions end with a question mark.
    12. Re:"Not Entirely True" by NicknameUnavailable · · Score: 1

      That's not how plebs think. They don't have well reasoned beliefs and ideals and such (on either side,) they are born into a culture and they perpetuate that culture. They can't be convinced to do the right thing (on either side,) so the best way to manipulate is to pigeon-hole them into sets of conflicting superficial beliefs over non-issues. This ensures neither side is focused on a thing that matters to change anything in their interest or otherwise.

    13. Re:"Not Entirely True" by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 1

      ... wouldn't it make sense to push certain liberal ideas into their heads...

      That's not how plebs think.

      You clearly do not have a firm understanding of how propaganda works and it would be beneficial to everyone if you didn't make claims about propaganda in the future.

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      Anons need not reply. Questions end with a question mark.
    14. Re:"Not Entirely True" by NicknameUnavailable · · Score: 1

      So you're an expert in propaganda...arguing that the MSM is truth..shocking.

    15. Re:"Not Entirely True" by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 1

      So you're an expert in propaganda...

      It doesn't take an expert to understand the basic concepts.

      arguing that the MSM is truth..shocking.

      The only thing I've argued is that Fox News Channel is product of the Republicans rather than a conspiracy by "globalist liberals" to discredit conservatism. If you want to claim Republicans aren't conservatives, fine but that doesn't mean they are liberals. It would be far more accurate to classify them as neo-fascists. See also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

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      Anons need not reply. Questions end with a question mark.
    16. Re:"Not Entirely True" by NicknameUnavailable · · Score: 1

      The only thing I've argued is that Fox News Channel is product of the Republicans rather than a conspiracy by "globalist liberals" to discredit conservatism.

      Yes, I'm aware. Your only argument being wrong is what sparked this discussion.

  26. Aw, what a summer child you are... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In with your complaint sans reality before anyone gets to you, hmmm? No matter what you will insist that trump is doing fine, his policies are good, whatever the dems do is commie socialist nazi repression and the free market will fix everything. No matter what, you will hold to your faith.

    1. Re:Aw, what a summer child you are... by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      REAL free market would fix this. Small ISP's would pop up everywhere. GBIT fiber to all homes would be 2 years out. Nobody would pass up that money with the way streaming is going now. The ISP's we currently have don't have to worry about competition. So they don't roll out fiber to every house because they don't need to. The local governments made it possible for them to get their money regardless.

  27. Last mile + market consolidation = monopoly by Uberbah · · Score: 1

    They literally created the situation we have today by handing out monopolies

    Monopolies were going to happen regardless, see the remedial math above. Government sanctioning the monopoly is to get the telecos to accept regulation in return. Don't like that? The only alternatives are much more strict government regulation to promote competition in the first place, or public ownership of the infrastructure. Two other things that libertarian derp doesn't like, either.

    1. Re:Last mile + market consolidation = monopoly by i.r.id10t · · Score: 1

      Almost miss the days of dialup - monopoly on wires, choice of service providers. Ended up switching as less congested operations sprang up, final switch was to one that supported dial-in to the same subnet they ran their Quake servers on, which meant with 2 phone lines and one account I could game and the wife could dial in on her computer and surf the web

      --
      Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos
  28. Just came back from 3rd world US by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I am sitting and charging my car on the way home from the airport. In a whole week in the IS having used residential fiber as well as residential cable modem and TMobile LTE, all I can say is... damn the US is in the dark ages.

    I truly was amazed at how bad the internet is in America. It actually is noticeably worse than it was last year at the same time.

    And the ridiculous restrictions like only letting 3 devices tether to a phone was just stupid.

    I am happy to be back in Europe!

    1. Re:Just came back from 3rd world US by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "In a whole week in the IS..."

      Well, you better get your time in quick because Daesh is on it's last legs! And "dark ages" is pretty much their whole motto and raison d'être.

    2. Re:Just came back from 3rd world US by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Odd, everyone I know coming back from EU is so happy because the internet in the US is faster and less jacked up. We have no connectivity or reliability issues in any of the areas of the country I need to go to, and pay less than they do in EU. Which surprised me because for years I heard people brag about getting 100Mb DSL for 14 bucks a month in the EU.
       
      We can also post things without being scared of being thrown in jail for offending someone.

    3. Re:Just came back from 3rd world US by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >charging my car on the way home from the airport
      How far do you live from an airport? Does your car have a range of 10 miles?

      >having used residential fiber as well as residential cable modem and TMobile LTE
      The US is a very, very big place. Your experience in NYC, Atlanta, Boston, LA, San Francisco will be different than rural Alabama.
      I live in semi-rural New Hampshire and I can pull 50mb/s across my AT&T wireless line everywhere I go. At home I have 300/25 cable internet with no data cap. I have never, not once in the last several years said "wow my internet really sucks". I'd prefer, maybe to get 50 up, but really that's only relevant when doing a backup, and incremental backups only take half an hour a week usually. For everything else, I'm not sure what you were downloading that couldn't be handled on a fiber connection. Even with today's bloated webpages, grabbing the insane 10-20MB of assets only takes a couple of seconds on my mobile connection.

      >And the ridiculous restrictions like only letting 3 devices tether to a phone was just stupid.
      The US is BYOD land. Buy a carrier locked phone and suffer their stupid restrictions. I have no tether limit because my device isn't crippled by the carrier's software.

  29. Liobertarians are not anarchists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anarchists are socialists, indeed the no-government utopia of Marx theory would be anarchist. Anarchists believe that nobody has the right to restrict anyone else's freedom. Libertarians claim to be anarcho-capitalists, but want the rights of people to be free to do anything, including restrict others' freedoms. And capitalism requires government... so they're absolutely not anarchist. Anarchists want you to be not free to make others free. Libertarians want to be free to make you not free, that is a restriction on their "freedom". Of course, the libertarian dogma fails on the blind choice test: they ALWAYS assume they will be the slave owners, not the slaves.

    1. Re:Liobertarians are not anarchists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Socialism is definitely not synonymous with or associated with anarchism or idiotic fantasy libertarianism, you didn't read very carefully at all. Pure Libertarianism is anarchism. That's much more of a 1:1 than socialism.

  30. Even Washington lied. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

    Likely why that cherry tree story is so important.

    Washington was the first president to march on his own citizens to 'quell' a rebellion over unfair taxation... the Whiskey Tax, which favored large eastern industrial manufacturers with flat taxes over a certain volume over western and poorer subsistence farmers who used whiskey as a form of barter, easier to transport goods, and a savings fallback for when harvests were bad (and they often were back in those days.) The Appalachian farmers could never produce enough individually to benefit from the flat tax, and the percentage tax was considered too high, and more importantly a sign of things to come. Since most of those same farmers had served in the revolutionary army and were in heavy debt, some with interest waived, but many with interest accrued during the War, most found it infuriating that they were now paying the very taxes they'd fought a war to end.

    American has never lived up to its ideals, only on occasion had them pulled kicking and screaming to the forefront when its citizenry has had enough.

  31. What's the weather like in cloudcuckoo land? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just wondering. Nice? Lovely pink elephants?

  32. Main benefit of preventing Net Neutrality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    IMHO, the main benefit of preventing Net Neutrality is to prevent abuse of whole Internet!!!
    (It does NOT need to increase Internet infrastructure investment!!!)

    Net Neutrality, sounds like a simple obvious benefit for everyone, but, is that really so???

    Imagine, a future, some people/companies doing massive abuse of ISP infrastructure & the public (other customers) keep complaining about them, but ISP cannot do anything to stop the abusing people/companies!
    Why, because the law says, all internet traffic must be always treated equal (if Net Neutrality becomes law, that is)!!!

  33. Shibboleth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You don't WANT "leftist" policies, no matter what you claimed there, so you BELIEVE "mob" of "self righteous leftists". Forgetting, not that you ever cared to remember, how many righties shouted down, for example, Kathy Gifford for her "joke" presidential decapitation. Or how atheists are refused office by rightwing republicans.

    Not that you have any evidence OF "mob of self righteous leftists shouting people down", you only have the echo chamer of a few random acts. By your "research" we can prove that your lot are a psychotic bunch of authoritarians who will shout down and murder if shouting doesn't silence "them".

    And weird you whine about "self righteous shouting down dissenting voices" yet are desperate to have this claimed to shut down someone saying that they'd like a different pronoun (never mind that this is a peterson bullshit alt-right shibboleth too: there was no law to make using "the wrong pronoun" illegal, merely gender identity added to the race, ethnicity and religion as protected classes). YOU demand that people SHUT UP about their gender and accept what you demand they take it as.

    1. Re:Shibboleth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't feed the illiterate Republican faggot trolls, they don't matter in real discussions. Stop entertaining the idiots by reacting to their childish faggot shit. They should be ignored, imprisoned, or simply hanged as traitors.

    2. Re:Shibboleth by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 1

      > Not that you have any evidence OF "mob of self righteous leftists shouting people down"

      Check any video of Antifa's behavior at the "freedom marches", or of the protests at speeches by right-wing icons such as Ben Shapiro, or Milo Yananoupolis, or those who merely speak out against the most extreme left-wing politics, such as Jordan Peterson. After some review, the Canadian law is deliberately vague and confusing. And nit's not merely "gender identity added". Jordan makes a convincing point that the legislation mandates specific speech, gender pronouns selected by the listener, and that it treats the wrong pronoun use itself as hate speech. That is the ideal of some LGBTQ organizations, where incorrect pronoun use is treated as assault.

      It's come up professionally for me. I referred to an old colleague as "him" from before his gender change, when discussing some workplace changes we made to accommodate "her" while she was in transition. I was able to introduce the youngster to the transgender woman and get _her_ opinion, and she was comfortable with my pronoun use. But a less certain professional without decades of experience might have been alarmed and cowed by the youngster's strident demands.

  34. #shitholecountry #freedumbs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    WOW. So glad I pulled all my money out of that shithole economy!

  35. Yup "too stupid" to follow your alt-reality. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because your head is up your arse, everything to you is upside down.

  36. I don't disagree with the general sentiment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    But, psst: Obama put Pai in the FCC in the first place, not Trump. I have come to believe that the *original* push for net neutrality was a farce.

  37. yup by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor" - President Obama, on many occasions

    "If you like your plan, you can keep your plan" - President Obama, on many occasions

    "the 9/11 Benghazi attack was caused by a YouTube video" (not a ditrect quote but a summary of what was said on nearly every TV channel by Obama National Security Advisor Susan Rice, under instruuctions from Ben Rhodes, the failed novelist Obama hired who also was brother of CBS News president)

    "he [Bowe Bergdahl] served the United States with honor and distinction" - Obama National Security Advisor Susan Rice

    “As far as the allegations of, you know, CIA hacking into, you know, Senate computers, nothing could be further from the truth. I mean we wouldn’t do that. I mean, that’s just beyond the – you know, the scope of reason in terms of what we would do,” - John Brennan, Obama's CIA director, who later had to apologize to the US Senate and resign after it was proven the CIA had hacked the Senate's computers.

    “No, sir Not wittingly. There are cases where they could inadvertently, perhaps, collect. But not wittingly.” - James Clapper (Obama's DNI testifying under oath in congress) in response to question “Does the NSA collect any type of data at all on millions, or hundreds of millions, of Americans?”

    “What I said was, the NSA does not voyeuristically pore through U.S. citizens’ e-mails. I stand by that.” - James Clapper, lying about his previous lie

    “I responded in what I thought was the most truthful, or least untruthful manner, by saying no,” - James Clapper on previous lies (also a lie, given that national security people often answer such questions in public sessions with something like "I'm sorry senator, I can't discuss such matters in an open forum")

    “All these newspapers used to have foreign bureaus, Now they don’t. They call us to explain to them what’s happening in Moscow and Cairo. Most of the outlets are reporting on world events from Washington. The average reporter we talk to is 27 years old, and their only reporting experience consists of being around political campaigns. That’s a sea change. They literally know nothing.” “We created an echo chamber, They were saying things that validated what we had given them to say.” - Obama's guy Ben Rhodes explaining how easily the Obama administration manipulated the press on the Iran nuclear deal.

    1. Re:yup by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OK,fuckwit, that's 9 vs. 8217 for the Orange Foghorn.

      You (and the USA) lose.

  38. Sorry Fox News faggots, you lose this -hard. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just another INCEL Republican faggot losing his Trump wig.

    - The fact-checks behind 'The Daily Show's' 50 Fox news 'lies'
    By Lauren Carroll, Aaron Sharockman on Thursday, February 26th, 2015 at 3:00 p.m.
    The Daily Show posted a Vine Wednesday titled, "50 Fox News lies in 6 seconds."
    We’ve fact-checked almost all of the statements they cited. For the record, we originally counted 49 claims, not 50. The Daily Show said No. 50 was left off due to a technical error. They've updated their Vine, which we've included here.
    * * *
    1. "In July 2010 the government said small businesses -- 60 percent -- will lose their health care, 45 percent of big business and a large percentage of individual health." Sean Hannity, Nov. 11, 2013 False
    * * *
    2. "And President Obama has offered to pay out of his own pocket for the museum of Muslim culture out of his own pocket, yet it's the Republican National Committee who's paying for this." Anna Kooiman, Oct. 5, 2013 https://bit.ly/2W1wHzv
    * * *
    3. Labor union president Andy Stern is "the most frequent visitor" at the White House. Glenn Beck, Dec. 3, 2009 False
    * * *
    4. "Far more children died last year drowning in their bathtubs than were killed accidentally by guns." Tucker Carlson, Aug. 9, 2014 Pants on Fire
    * * *
    5. White House Political Director Patrick Gaspard once served as the "right-hand man" for Bertha Lewis, who heads up ACORN. Steve Doocy, Sept. 29, 2009 False
    * * *
    6. "Look at the debt that has been accumulated in the last two years. It's more debt under this president than all those other presidents combined."
    Sarah Palin, May 31, 2011 False
    * * *
    7. "There is no good data showing secondhand smoke kills people." John Stossel, Dec. 4, 2014 False
    * * *
    8. "Democrats are poised now to cause this largest tax increase in U.S. history." Sarah Palin, Aug. 1, 2010 Pants on Fire
    * * *
    9. "The insurance industry is actually run by mostly Democrats." Dana Perino, Oct. 31, 2013 False
    * * *
    10. The Obama administration "manipulated deportation data to make it appear that the Border Patrol was deporting more illegal immigrants than the Bush administration." Lou Dobbs, July 1, 2014 False
    * * *
    11. Some doctors say Ebola can be transmitted through the air by "a sneeze or some cough." George Will, Oct. 19, 2014 False
    * * *
    12. Says the Texas State Board of Education is considering eliminating references to Christmas and the Constitution in textbooks. Gretchen Carlson, March 10, 2010 Pants on Fire
    * * *
    13. Because of President Barack Obama’s failure to "push job creation," the black unemployment rate in Ferguson, Mo., is three times higher than the white unemployment rate. Lou Dobbs, Aug. 19, 2014 False
    * * *
    14. When White House communications director Anita Dunn said that Mao Tse-tung was "one of her favorite philosophers, only Fox News picked that up."
    Bill O’Reilly, Oct. 23, 2009 False
    * * *
    15. "The president of the United States will be taking a trip over to India that is expected to cost the taxpayers $200 million a day." Michele Bachmann, Nov. 3, 2010 False (Note: Bachmann’s claim was made on CNN, not Fox News but Glenn Beck made a similar claim on Fox)
    * * *
    16. "We researched to find out if anybody on Fox News had ever said you're going to jail if you don't buy health insurance. Nobody's ever said it." Bill O’Reilly, Oct. 27, 2010 Pants on Fire
    * * *
    17. "If you make more than $250,000 a year you only really take home about $125,000." Steve Doocy, July 11, 2012 False
    * * *
    18. A Census Bureau worker says he was told to skew information to bring the unemployment rate down "as we headed into an election season." Elisabeth Hasselbeck, Nov. 19, 2013 False
    * * *
    19. "Health care mandate will require imprisonment and fines for Americans who can’t afford to purchase insurance or pay

    1. Re:Sorry Fox News faggots, you lose this -hard. by NicknameUnavailable · · Score: 1

      You must be awfully butt-mad to write all those words nobody will read.

    2. Re:Sorry Fox News faggots, you lose this -hard. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You don't have to know how to read to know you just got smoked. Celebrate the lies, let them replace whatever few truths you have left. Your march into bondage is complete. Prepare for Putin cock, Trump traitors.

      His name supplants Benedict Arnold, he'll be famous as the dumbest traitor in human history. Bar none, even in your party of 90% Judases.

      Trump will be buried under the prison along with his bitch beta traitor sons and feckless bauble-whore traitor daughter, imported mail-order whorespy wife.

      America will be greater for it. Trump is a total loss in the end, a traitor's due. The GOP will never recover.

  39. Re:don't YOU forget... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Actually he nominated Pai AT THE DIRECT SUGGESTION OF MCCONNEL to keep the bipartisan makeup of the panel, as was the custom just those few short years ago before Trump's treasonous autocratic gambles.

    Pai was the Republican choice and Obama obliged them. One can question the wisdom of catering to that spineless dick cozy Mitchy bitch, but in the end it was SOP to keep the panel bipartisan and Obama did that.

    (Your dishonesty and whattaboutism does not surprise anyone, GOP cowards, nor will it save Trump from the gallows.)

    Put your head in the noose, and if unlike Trump you can think of anything you might require praying to absolve, now's the time. The lake of fire awaits, traitor.

  40. And THAT is just one reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the founders of the USA created a Constitutional Republic with a small and limited central government.

    Big Govt = vast number of people and things to watch and really big lies.
    Small Govt = fewer politicians, bureaucrats and things to watch over and therefore fewer and smaller lies.

    It's no wonder that corrupt politicians over the decades have grown the government to monstrous proportions and injected it into every aspec of our lives - it makes it impossible for the citizenry to keep a watch on all the badness.

  41. Gutting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Surprised at not seeing suggestions of gutting something else.

  42. Perspective by nehumanuscrede · · Score: 1

    Great for broadband if you're an ISP . . . . .

    . . . . not so much if you're a consumer.

    Guess whose side the FCC is on ?

  43. What they really meant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    FCC Says Gutting ISP Oversight Was Great For Broadband ...

    ...[derived] profits.

    What they really meant.

    When politicians are bought and bureaucrats are sourced from the very industry they police, don't expect protection of the common good.

  44. Thank you president Trump by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I for one don't like this MSM crap. Fox news and Hannity told me that Pai was an alright guy and Obama was worse

  45. Nope, weak like yourself, asshat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How fucking lame are you? 11?

    1. Re:Nope, weak like yourself, asshat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's an 11 on the lame scale? Talk about lame...

  46. WRONG, go look it up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anarchism is socialism, a form thereof. The means of production is owned by the worker who uses them, like artisan economies, socialist economies and communist economies, therefore they are all socialist, all forms of socialism. Anarchism is a socialist political ideology.

  47. Always limited to what you want. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Strange that. It's almost like to the libertard the small government is their god, able to do only and purely what the true believer says they should be doing. Copyrights, contracts, ownership ALL require government intervention to protect, yet this interference in every aspect of people's lives is not abhorrent to you fucking idiots, is it?

  48. older days was Ma Bell. Monopoly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That, however, doesn't fit your ideology: government bad, private industry good. Private industry created this monopoly, forced government to do it.

  49. Pure libertarianism is not anarchism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anarchy is "with no masters" yet pure libertarianism allows the individual to own the means of production yet not have to work it, it also allows slavery, since the individual is allowed in libertarianism to own other people, it's just not governments allowed to do shit to individuals.

  50. Private industry is MUCH better! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All goverment bad, mmmkay.
    Private companies are GOOD and only care for WELL BEING of every citizen with a fully paid up license for _LIFE_.

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  52. Re:don't YOU forget... by Holi · · Score: 1

    Yet I don't see you offering any of the blame to McConnell which means you have no interest in being honest, just in trying to tie Pai's decisions to Obama which is entirely indigenous. You already know this which is why everyone can safely disregard your statement as propaganda.

    --
    Sorry, teleporters just kill you and then make a copy. A perfect, soul-less copy.
  53. Re:don't YOU forget... by Dragonslicer · · Score: 1

    just in trying to tie Pai's decisions to Obama which is entirely indigenous.

    FYI, I think the word you were looking for there is "disingenuous".

  54. Re:What the world wants to know? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yawn. Please stop eating your own shit! It's nasty. Stop molesting children! You can't hide behind anonymity you worthless coward.

    the pathetic living punchline that is impersonating gerald butler

  55. Yeah the traffic shaping and throttling are great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have several sites that are in the southern US and are on Comcast. We have a icmp check to test the internet connection so we can switch to backup when the primary goes down. On a daily basis now our ICMP packets get blocked and cause false positives. At this time I don't have the ability to migrate away from these ICMP checks so we just have to deal with the fact that Comast is doing either traffic shaping or throttling that's causing us issues. It's screwed up because we cover about 1/3 of the US and Comcast is the only ISP we're currently seeing this with.

  56. A Bad Student Says... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A bad student evaluates themselves. Unsurprisingly, they find themselves to pass in every respect, and are academically superior in most respects!

    Also, Mom & Dad definitely don't need to see and sign their report cards.