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Drug Pollution In Rivers Reaching Damaging Levels For Animals and Ecosystems, Scientists Warn (independent.co.uk)
pgmrdlm shares a report from The Independent: Medicines including antibiotics and epilepsy drugs are increasingly being found in the world's rivers at concentrations that can damage ecosystems, a study has shown. Dutch researchers developed a model for estimating concentrations of drugs in the world's fresh water systems to predict where they could cause the most harm to the food web. The study, published in Environmental Research Letters, focuses on two particular drugs: antibiotic ciprofloxacin and anti-epileptic drug carbamazepine. Between 1995 and 2015 it found that rising concentrations of the drugs and the increasing number of water tables affected meant the risks to aquatic ecosystems are 10 to 20 times higher than two decades earlier.
Carbamazepine has been linked to disrupting the development of fish eggs and shellfish digestive processes, and the study found potential risks were most pronounced in arid areas with a few major streams. The risks were much more widespread for ciprofloxacin, with 223 of 449 ecosystems tested showing a significant risk increase. More worrying still, when [the researchers] compared their predictions to samples from four river systems they found their model was underestimating the risk. Pharmaceutical residues can enter these fresh water systems through waste water from poorly maintained sewer systems, or from run-off over fields for drugs used in livestock.
Carbamazepine has been linked to disrupting the development of fish eggs and shellfish digestive processes, and the study found potential risks were most pronounced in arid areas with a few major streams. The risks were much more widespread for ciprofloxacin, with 223 of 449 ecosystems tested showing a significant risk increase. More worrying still, when [the researchers] compared their predictions to samples from four river systems they found their model was underestimating the risk. Pharmaceutical residues can enter these fresh water systems through waste water from poorly maintained sewer systems, or from run-off over fields for drugs used in livestock.
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Do not be surprise we see antibiotic resistance. First we gave antibiotic to cattle just in case, and then we pour some into rivers. Many microbes will get exposed to it, and some will adapt.
If all these drugs downstream from being given to humans, diluted many millions of times over, are bad for fish, how good can the ubiquitous use of drugs be for humans?
Gotta wonder....
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And make them pay for the cleanup
You have no idea what you're blathering about. They're two distinct problems, both real, both with very different effects and dangers. Stop thinking you get a say in science without scientific study and credentials. You do not.
A while back we went to go look at a work-for-rent cabin outside of Willits, on a supposedly permacultural demonstration farm. Turned out the owner had workshops there, and she had attendees shit in buckets in an outhouse, then literally buried the shit in a hole next to the river that some neighbor dug for her with his backhoe. This person recently gave the keynote speech at a local farm conference. So as it turns out, both municipal waste management systems and hippies in the woods are shitting up our water systems. You might say it's end-to-end.
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Everyone gets a say. How the hell do you think Trump got elected?
Educate instead of shaming, or you will be swiftly ignored.
Odd medication to complain about. Crbamazepine (Tegretol) was a highly used seizure/epilepsy medication 25 years ago, and to lesser extent, used for migraines or bipolar disorder. Now it is rarely used for any of these.
I'm puzzled why there is particular concern over a medicine that is rarely used any more.
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Die in a fire, lying GOP faggots. Nobody will miss the lies or opines presented as fact. You simply do not matter or even factor into a scientific debate on the merits, and given your lies on the topic are generally ignored now.
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when rivers feeding the Great Lakes used to catch fire?
I mean drugs in the water are bad, but at least the fish get a nice buzz. /s
For the interested:
https://www.environmentalcounc...
Screw pharmaceutical companies, we can just go to the river and gulp down some of that to get medication for free! All kidding aside, it sounds like we need improved treatment of wastewater before it is released to the environment to strain out or denature all these exotic and/or artificial organic compounds that seem to be persistent in the environment.
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It's not a religion, credentials are not important, the merit of the idea is.
Hippies first appeared in the 1960s. Rivers first caught on fire in the 1960s. How much stronger of a link do you need?
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Sadly, in today's world it is "educate instead of shaming, and you'll be swiftly ignored". With people like Betsy DeVille setting the standards for public education in the developed world (oh, yes, the US does, unfortunately, still have a lot of influence) education means nothing.
Today advertising rules, and modern society is a fucking popularity contest. The only result that matters is the polls, and these cater to the average.
And the average is abysmally stupid.
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Stupid people willing to hurt themselves and others over wanting an ignorant, racist orange turd in power are not worth respecting and in fact need to be mocked and shoved back under the rock, I mean forced back into their trailer park.
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Sadly, in today's world it is "educate instead of shaming, and you'll be swiftly ignored". With people like Betsy DeVille setting the standards for public education
I stopped reading when I saw this childish insult. Name-calling is a strong signal that the speaker has no argument. It is sort of funny that you pretend to advocate for education, and have zero clue what a proper argument looks like.
If you want to fight for something; great, then fight for the water and fishies. Humanities survival depends on clean water. This would be Soo very much better than calling people disagree about the serverity of Donald Trump Generated Global Climate Change (DGGCC) faggots.
Libtards and Trumptards can all agree we need clean water. Let's find a common goal
Sure, morons overuse antibiotics but epilepsy is fairly rare. Shouldn't the environment be polluted with psych pills? Shitheads abuse those fucking things all the time and the psych scam has made it so everyone has a diagnosable "illness".
numbnuts
You have no idea what you're blathering about. They're two distinct problems
They are not at all, because we have only so much money, and time to devote to policing either real pollution, or CO2.
Would you rather waste time reducing a gas that plants use to grow, or to eliminate actually unnatural contaminants from our ecosystem?
I choose to work for, rather than against, life.
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You're grossly oversimple and think your opine matters. It doesn't. You're neither a policymaker nor expert, are not even read into the topic at all quite obviously.
Simply reducing medications isn't a solution to the problem nor is it feasible. There's a reason you need to pretend everything is uncomplicated - that's the only way you can (at all) pretend to understand it.
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LOL, I am not making an argument, but a statement of fact. It is sort of funny that you use those big words and have no clue what they mean.
It is known that most of the plastic pollution comes from the 7 main rivers in Asia and Africa (with only China doing something to curb it), the article is sort of shy in mentioning where the issue the researcher explored seems more problematic (Middle East).
This is the kind of thing that is much easier to get public support for than the hockey sticks and whatnots.
I'd like to elaborate about this point. The eventual benefits of a CO2 reduction, for example, are very difficult to acknowledge, because they could take years to materialize, if at all. Instead, the benefits of cleaner water and cleaner air can be easily and quickly evaluated. That's why there wouldn't be as much controversy for pollution as there is for climate change policies.
Also, most people will not be personally affected by measures to reduce drug pollution.
I suspect a lot of the money pushing the shrill "OMG the sky is falling!!!" climate change trope comes from heavy chemical polluters.
Almost everyone agrees it's a good idea not to throw toxic waste in the river. That kind of sentiment could really cut into corporate profits. Better to get the masses worked up over an inconsequential issue (carbon is very far from the worst pollutant) by feeding them outlandish scare stories.
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While other drugs may be an issue, the elephant in the room is agriculture. For vegetable, big ag uses all sort of pesticides and fertilizers that wind up polluting the water. For animals, they use antibiotics.
The antibiotics are not even meant to preserve animal health, although that's a nice side effect. Weirdly, animals on antibiotics gain weight more quickly, which is (afaik) the real motivation. But these antibiotics wind up in the waste, and from there in the runoff and in the rivers.
What we need is simple: an absolute prohibition on medicating animals that are not sick. Period.
p.s. It's a bit off-topic here, but: the prices for the antibiotics have to be cheap, for this to work economically. The exact same antibiotics for people are generally massively higher. An interesting comment on big pharma.
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Trump got elected because both parties in our 2 party system failed to produce qualified candidates which is a required mandate in our 2 party representative democracy. There is even quite a bit of discussion on this very subject from the Founding Fathers for the Originalists in the room. Pure democracy has purely failed every time its been tried, it even has a notorious name...mob rule. The fact that Trump and Clinton were on the final ballot at all was a major failure of our REPRESENTATIVE democracy.
The fact is either smart people with good ideas are carefully selected for leadership or there will be major problems.
Finding a straw man to negate a strong argument is a strong signal that the speaker has no argument.
Betsy is an ongoing disaster for education
Check out the amount of prescription drugs you're consuming that people peed back into the water supply that isn't recycled out
Especially the insane levels of birth control urine. No wonder we've hit record lows in testosterone and record highs in soyboyism and emotional instability
Animals come second.
This is what happens when the profit motive incentivizes anti-social and anti-ethical behavior.
Capitalism is killing the world.
Stupid people willing to hurt themselves and others over wanting an ignorant, racist orange turd in power are not worth respecting and in fact need to be mocked and shoved back under the rock, I mean forced back into their trailer park.
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Shut up Hillary. Your time is over.
If you can't convince the GOP global warming is real, corporations are not people and trickle down economics is a complete failure - this is just back ground babble.
The antibiotics are biotic in origin, they're as natural as the CO2. Climate change is worse for the overall health of a fragmented ecosystem. A large contiguous habitat might have more buffer, so I suppose in that instance pollution could be worse. You're still just trying to decide if it is better to die of hemlock or botulism, splitting hairs that don't matter.
Climate change is worse for the overall health of a fragmented ecosystem.
That is incorrect, because fundamentally more energy in a system means more opportunity.
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That is not correct, stable gradients are far more important than raw energy difference.
Would you rather waste time reducing a gas that plants use to grow, or to eliminate actually unnatural contaminants from our ecosystem?
What is or isn't "natural" (a poorly defined term at best) is as irrelevant here as the fact that cyanide or ricin occurs naturally when it's in someone's body, killing them. What's relevant is the concentration, and whether it causes ill effects.
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It's statistical processes that make something natural. Eg. butter has been consumed by humans for thousands of years, and previously never by any humans ever. Margarine had been consumed for about 50. So food-wise no butter is the most natural, butter is fairly natural, margarine is the least natural. It's those "very little natural" substances and processes that we for simplicity call unnatural.
How natural something is isn't always correlated to how good it is for you of course, but in the absence of other information and combined with common sense that metric serves as a useful guide.
I don't think that natural things like weed and cbd are polluting our planet. I have read a lot of sites and none of them said something about damage to the environment. Maybe some pills are really influent nature, but let us be exact then.
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