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Microsoft Announces HoloLens 2 Mixed Reality Headset For $3,500 (theverge.com)

Artem S. Tashkinov writes: Hailed as a third wave of computing, Microsoft has made the HoloLens 2 mixed-reality headset available for preorder for a staggering $3,500 and it's expected to be shipped later this year. It will be sold only to enterprise customers. Compared to the first generation HoloLens, the second version is better in almost every important way: it's more comfortable to wear, it offers a much wider field of view, it contains powerful recognition software that can detect real world physical objects and allow you to seamlessly interact with them using hand and finger gestures. It features new components like the Azure Kinect sensor, SnapDragon 850 SoC, eye-tracking sensors, an entirely different display system with 2K resolution for each eye, a couple of speakers, and an 8-megapixel front-facing camera for video conferencing. It's also capable of full 6 degrees of tracking, and it also uses USB-C to charge.

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  1. Excited to try one out! by godrik · · Score: 0

    I had tried the hololens 1 that a colleague use in her VR/AR research. And I liked Hololens. Yes it was a bit heavy, yes the field of view was pretty narrow. But for a version 1, that was pretty good AR. Much better than the VR headset I had tried at the time.

    So I hope I'll get to try one out and see how better this is going to be. Probably one of my colleagues will get one, and I'll play with it.

    1. Re:Excited to try one out! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well it is useless for the /. crowd anyway.

      We already have mixed realty for free here thanks to our benevolent soul from San Jose who is also often seen in Palo Alto.

    2. Re: Excited to try one out! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sign up for their beta-tester butthole account, pay registration fee, ...and fuck off.

    3. Re:Excited to try one out! by smallfries · · Score: 2

      No wireless. Less space than a Nomad. Lame

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  2. Sorry, regular douches. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It will be sold only to enterprise douches.

  3. Just saying by bobstreo · · Score: 0

    you could build out an enclosure with 7,1 sound and about 5 to 7 50+ inch 4k UHD televisions for this price... Maybe even a seat with a built in subwoofer.

    1. Re:Just saying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some of us like portability.

    2. Re:Just saying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      "Just saying," allows you to blurt out any idiotic comment without relevancy to get a cheap laugh.

    3. Re:Just saying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      you could build out an enclosure with 7,1 sound and about 5 to 7 50+ inch 4k UHD televisions for this price... Maybe even a seat with a built in subwoofer.

      AR... not VR. So you're close if you can fit all that into a motorcycle helmet, good luck.

    4. Re:Just saying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How is that going to let you use AR for the scenarios it's intended, which is not gaming in any way?

    5. Re:Just saying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I lauged at that.

  4. V1 by itamblyn · · Score: 2

    I was also very much impressed with V1. I had the same feeling I had when I tried out the capacitive touch screen on the original iPhone for the first time "...WOW". Hololense V1 really is incredible. The only problems with it (field of view and poor hand recognition) are the type of thing that sound like they can be improved upon in new iterations. Hololense is one of the big advancements in tech in the past few years IMO.

    1. Re:V1 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hololense is one of the big advancements in tech in the past few years IMO.

      Sorry, I meant to quote that in my original reply. You're a moron.

    2. Re:V1 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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  5. i was assured there would be 100 million by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    VR headsets in use by now.

    https://slashdot.org/comments....

    how do i "pm" this guy

  6. Free gift by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I heard the first 100k come with a free AR-15.

  7. VR and AR are still in infancy by SmaryJerry · · Score: 1

    They are so poor compared to what they could be with better screens and more powerful computers. They would still be good enough to take off if they also weren't insanely expensive. Main stream VR and AR is still 10 years away due to cost/quality combination.

    1. Re:VR and AR are still in infancy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      They would still be good enough to take off if they also weren't insanely expensive

      Haha, for those of us old enough to remember the first laptops costing $8k 25 years ago $3.5K in 2019 doesn't seem that insane.
      Jesus, give it another year or two and with Apple's new innovations in pricing technology a top of the line iPhone will probably cost $3.5k.

    2. Re:VR and AR are still in infancy by godrik · · Score: 1

      Main stream VR and AR is still 10 years away due to cost/quality combination.

      VR is already a (small) market in video games.

      AR is still not quite there. But that's why they target at particular industries at this point.

    3. Re:VR and AR are still in infancy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      like how fusion power is always 20 years away?

    4. Re:VR and AR are still in infancy by crgrace · · Score: 2

      You must be young. Computing technology hasn't always been cheap and ubiquitous.

      My Dad was an immigrant and a hardworking construction supervisor in California. My mom stayed home (this was the 80s remember) and we had a modest but happy life. Dad could see the writing on the wall and bought me and my brother a Mac SE so we could learn computers back in middle school. It was about $4000 in 1988 or $8500 today. Crazy money, especially for a construction worker. But I learned how to code in Turbo Pascal, spent high school writing games as much as playing them, then breezed through undergrad, got through graduate school (with a lot of pain and suffering) and now I have an amazing job and am solidly in the upper-middle class. My brother didn't go into technology but he's a lawyer also doing quite well.

      Thanks Dad. I owe you everything. That Mac was our ticket to the American Dream.

  8. Getting closer by SuperKendall · · Score: 3, Informative

    They said double the field of view for the new model - I also tried the original and it was a bit too limited. I think 2x might be enough improvement to be decent, really hoping I can try one of these out at some point.

    At the price they are charging they definitely will be more for enterprise or other serious applications, and that's probably a good thing in terms of taking over a niche they can build on. Maybe someday a consumer model...

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    1. Re: Getting closer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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    2. Re:Getting closer by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      I'm waiting for the YouTube videos of people trying to lean on furniture that isn't really their and putting their heads through the TV. Like with VR but even more dangerous because the whole point is for it to interact with the real world.

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    3. Re:Getting closer by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

      putting their heads through the TV.

      The fake furniture thing would be funny but I don't think a Hololens could really do a very realistic job of erasing something that was actually there... at the very least it would be a pretty bad design to try.

      The thing I liked about the Hololens (and pretty much any AR system) is that you could see so well was was really around you so you could use it in a real living room or other space with mixed objects. It made me realize an important aspect of any AR system really is that it knows what is around so it doesn't obscure anything too badly, or at most skins it to look like something else.

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    4. Re:Getting closer by dpidcoe · · Score: 1

      The fake furniture thing would be funny but I don't think a Hololens could really do a very realistic job of erasing something that was actually there... at the very least it would be a pretty bad design to try.

      Ever seen a little kid try to interact with a non-touchscreen laptop and conclude that it's broken because the screen isn't responding as they smear their fingers all over it?

      Hololens wouldn't have to erase the TV, just get the user used to interacting with screens that aren't physically present. Then one day a real screen gets mistaken for a fake one and bam!

  9. 1 toy or food for 8 months by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Get real, its going to be food.

    1. Re: 1 toy or food for 8 months by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For the target market the hardware cost is trivial.

    2. Re:1 toy or food for 8 months by gravewax · · Score: 1

      So which enterprises do you think make a decision on food for 8 months or a toy? I suspect what you think of an enterprise is something the rest of the world doesn't

    3. Re:1 toy or food for 8 months by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Get real, its going to be food.

      I think any enterprise in that situation is already bankrupt and isn't a likely customer. Especially as the hardware is the cheap part of an AR project, the software development to back it will likely run into 7 figures. Perhaps you are mistaking this for a consumer device?

    4. Re:1 toy or food for 8 months by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Get real, its going to be food.

      IDK, to AR, or to food, tough question really. Can always food later, AR now.

  10. Kendall you're the world's most boring faggot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe someday you can matter to the world in any tiny way, probably not. I think you need to die 2x faster, really hoping I can view a video of that at some point.

  11. Re: Excited to reelect Trump! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yet he is President... and Hillary is not.

    Do you really want to go over re-election rates of incumbents?

  12. Wouldn't buy it for $3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wouldn't buy any Microsoft's product even for $3.

    1. Re:Wouldn't buy it for $3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and why the fuck would anyone care what some kid in his mothers basement thinks? seriously go play on Instagram or something.

  13. Yes, but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does it run Linux?

    1. Re:Yes, but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      >Does it run Linux?
      Yes, but Linux doesn't run AR.

  14. strange claims by Cederic · · Score: 2

    can detect real world physical objects and allow you to seamlessly interact with them using hand and finger gestures

    Well, yes. The Mk1 Eyeball supports that too. It's called "picking things up".

  15. Maybe Verge can build a VR PC now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I guess now maybe Verge could show how to build a gaming PC with HoloLens? That way when you completely screw it up you haven't really done anything.

  16. Microsoft demos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So after all of those stunning Microsoft demos the past several years, does this mean that Hololens 2 will be used by enterprise customers to play Minecraft all day long at work?

    1. Re:Microsoft demos by pjt33 · · Score: 2

      Ssssh! We won't be able to persuade our boss to buy any if he thinks that...

  17. PSVR was a great purchase by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    $200 for the black Friday bundle with the two best games, Astro Bot and Moss, and being able to get Rec Room free, it's breathing new life into gaming for me. I always can't wait to get into Rec Room and see what people are making. Dreams is looking really good as well for allowing users to create VR games and experiences. Playing Resident Evil 7 is so good, when someone takes that much care and effort into designing a realistic environment it pays off. It hasn't lost its luster and I use it regularly.

    Tetris Effect is a great way to relax too. It's amazing how effective it is when you block out the outside world just for a 20 minute session. Everyone needs to relax. With the TV being able to mirror what the person in VR is playing, it's fun to see what my family does as well. The TV can also be used for other players to join in and play with or against the person using the VR set. It's really cool.

    I think Sony is going in the right direction trying to attract big budget games and funding projects like Astro Bot themselves, and have gotten really creative with the way VR is used on their system.

    I'd say VR is here, it's cheap, effective, and I'd highly recommend PSVR.

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  19. VR vs AR by sjbe · · Score: 3, Insightful

    VR is already a (small) market in video games.

    Yes it is. Also a small market for various simulators. Unfortunately VR is likely to remain a comparatively small market. It's very useful for a few niche applications but broader use cases for the technology are generally lacking and likely to remain so. That's not to bash the technology (I used to work in the industry so I'm a fan) but just to temper expectations. Some people have been expecting VR to be the Next Big Thing for the last 30+ years and the reality of it seldom is quite what people expect and the practical use cases have remained few.

    AR is still not quite there. But that's why they target at particular industries at this point.

    AR has FAR broader potential applications and you are right that it still has a ways to go. That said, AR is already in your hands via your smartphone. I use astronomy apps that help identify stars by putting labeled information on the screen about whatever I'm pointing the phone at. I've used measurement overlay and heads up display apps and there are games that interact with the real world. Google translate has AR features that replace text in one language with text in another in real time. It's a lot easier to envision AR applications as enhancements to existing technology than VR applications which will necessarily be new.

  20. for that price i'd rather get myself beaten up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    by a couple of nigerians

  21. made for Robert Kraft by Locutus · · Score: 1

    He can afford it, claim the business expense and well, use it for porn after hours. That is, when not in a room full of executives wearing them while jumping up/down and waving their arms around as everyone tries flipping the pages on the virtual MS PowerPoint presentation demo. During intermission, when they stop for a bit, then Microsoft can get some footage and use it for marketing to sucker^H^H^H^H^H^Hexcutives at other corporations.

    LoB

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  22. $3500 lol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, I have much better uses for $3500, especially since it's a) from Microsoft, and b) useless without additional hardware, and c) it's $3500.

    1. Re:$3500 lol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      that's fine, you aren't able to buy it even if you wanted it. This is purely for enterprises. $3500 is a tiny cost when this will be part of a multi million dollar AR development.

  23. VR vs AR: Video Games. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If people want good examples of AR, just look towards video games*. The landscape no longer doted with signage, or advertising. Going to a party and never forgetting names. Always knowing where the bathroom is. Playing PONG with an actual environment.

    *And no, not in the mass shooting way either.

  24. Microsoft lasers. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Microsoft had to create an entirely new etching system for the waveguides. It had to figure out how to direct light to the right place in the waveguides nearly photon by photon. “We are simulating every photon that comes from the laser,” Alam says. The light from the lasers isn’t just reflected; it’s split apart in multiple colors and through multiple “pupils” in the display system and then “reconstituted” into the right spot on the waveguides.

    Sounds an awful lot like Magic Leap's approach.

    And here's the problem with shining lasers into eyes. Which is why Intel's Vaunt was canceled.

    https://www.kguttag.com/?s=%22laser+beam+scanning%22