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Facebook Moderators Are Routinely High and Joke About Suicide To Cope With Job, Says Report (gizmodo.com)

According to a new report from The Verge, Facebook moderators in Phoenix, Arizona reportedly make just $28,800 a year and use sex and drugs to deal with the stress. "The report published on Monday detailed the experiences of current and former employees who worked at professional services company Cognizant, a company they say Facebook outsources its moderating efforts to," Gizmodo summarizes. "According to the report, employees experienced severe mental health distress, which they coped with by having sex at the office and smoking weed. Some even began believing the conspiracy theories they were tasked with reviewing. One quality assurance manager said he began bringing a gun to work in response to threats from fired workers." From the report: "There was nothing that they were doing for us," one former moderator told The Verge, "other than expecting us to be able to identify when we're broken. Most of the people there that are deteriorating -- they don't even see it. And that's what kills me." "Randy," a quality assurance worker at Cognizant charged with reviewing posts flagged by moderators, said that several times over his year at the company he was approached and intimidated by moderators to change his decisions. "They would confront me in the parking lot and tell me they were going to beat the shit out of me," Randy told The Verge. He also said that fired Cognizant employees made what he believed to be genuine threats of harm to their former colleagues. Randy started to bring a concealed gun to the office to protect himself.

Employees told The Verge that moderators in the Phoenix office dealt with the hellish reality of their jobs by having sex in the office -- in stairwells, bathrooms, parking garages, and a lactation room -- smoking weed on breaks, and joking about suicide. A former moderator claimed that there was a joke among colleagues that "time to go hang out on the roof" was subtext for wanting to jump off the building. Moderators for Facebook have to review graphic posts containing violence, dehumanizing speech, and child abuse, but they also have to weed through the conspiracy theories that run rampant on the web. It's well-reported that the former has resulted in moderators developing PTSD and other debilitating mental health issues, but Monday's report from The Verge indicates that the latter may be causing them to develop fringe beliefs.

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  1. Imagine the AI raised on this by dyfet · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Just imagine the AI that will one day get trained on that corpus....

    1. Re:Imagine the AI raised on this by fazig · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It lends credence to scenarios like in Terminator or the Matrix.

    2. Re:Imagine the AI raised on this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      AI doesn't get PTSD, or at least, no AI we can create in the foreseeable future will have such a capability.

      Dont you remember microsofts twitter bot called Tay?

      "She" was sweet enough at first, but after beeing subjected to the internet she quickly adopted conspiracy theories, became racist, misogynist and generally foul-mouthed.

      MS took her down for some tweaks and when she came back she was very clearly into smoking weed as it was her favorite topic.

      Not long after that she got stuck in a loop (bot-suicide).

      #botshavefeelingstoo

  2. Are you surprised? by Freischutz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Facebook Moderators Are Routinely High and Joke About Suicide To Cope With Job ...

    Are you surprised? They have to spend their days wading through the torrent of raw stupidity that are Facebook comments every moment of every working day. That is bound to destroy your faith in humanity as a a species and drive you to the brink of suicidal depression.

    1. Re: Are you surprised? by alexgieg · · Score: 3, Interesting

      This is the kind of job best suited for psychopaths. I don't mean that in jest. A psychopath doesn't become ill by seeing any of this, their mind is wired such that it doesn't affect them. And there are highly functioning, non-murderous psychopaths that'd do this job if the pay was high enough.

      Alas, no company would want that cost, so psychologically damaging sane individuals in exchange for saving money it'll be, at least until laws protecting workers from psychological harm are enacted and enforced with the same rigor of laws protecting workers from bodily harm.

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    2. Re:Are you surprised? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 3, Informative

      It's probably less the stupid conspiracy shit and more the suicidal children, images of self harm, friends trying desperately and ineffectively to help, groups encouraging anorexia...

      Seeing people genuinely suffering is one of the common causes of PTSD in soldiers and aid workers, for example.

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    3. Re: Are you surprised? by alexgieg · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Sure the content doesn’t bother them, but because it doesn’t bother them they probably don’t see the need to moderate it.

      Actually, psychopaths are quite skilled at knowing what will bother others, even if it doesn't bother them personally, so they wouldn't really have difficulty moderating this kind of content.

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  3. Re:High on the job is an instant firing, by fazig · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Imagine to having to wade through all that cerebral diarrhoea that people post on facebook all of your work day. On top of that you get shitty pay that can't possibly cover any psychological or psychiatric treatment.
    Losing faith in humanity and descending into hedonistic nihilism seems like a natural progression here.

    What kind of person would it take to do such a job?

  4. Awesome Workplace by ketomax · · Score: 4, Funny

    which they coped with by having sex at the office and smoking weed.

    Are they hiring?

    1. Re:Awesome Workplace by Opportunist · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yes. But as a tip, bring your own lube. After all, you'll be the new guy.

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    2. Re:Awesome Workplace by _merlin · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Working in finance, a lot of people in this business cope by drinking coffee while their biggest problem is staying awake, then switch to alcohol. Lots of high-functioning alcoholics (I was for a few years, but weaned myself off). Plenty of people smoke weed after work or take cocaine on the weekends. Also some guys hire prostitutes to talk out their day before going home to their family. (Prostitutes are cheaper than shrinks, work at more convenient hours for you if you have a day job, and will happily listen to all your problems, offer sympathy, and not tell anyone about it. You don't even need to have sex with them, although that's an option. They may also be able to give you a massage, sing karaoke with you, and other stuff.) But in general this kind of thing happens outside the office. The vices in the office are just the caffeine and alcohol.

  5. Re: So a nomral average 20something life by alexgieg · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Such anger at psychology and psychiatry... are you perchance a scientologist?

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  6. Re: So a nomral average 20something life by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Moderators for Facebook have to review graphic posts containing violence, dehumanizing speech, and child abuse, but they also have to weed through the conspiracy theories that run rampant on the web."

    Just becus you may browse child abuse on your own does not mean that everyone else dose or that would be considered a normal browsing habit for a 20-25 year old.

  7. Re: High on the job is an instant firing, by fazig · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Don't those usually sit at the top of the corporate chain?

  8. Re:If you can't handle deleting pepe memes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It's more deleting gore images. How many ripped open humans do you like to look at in the morning? When you're poor, you take any job you can. Only so many people can work in fast food and as cashiers.

  9. Re:Randy by jellomizer · · Score: 4, Informative

    A “Lactating room” is a private room where a mother of a small child can use a breast pump to collect milk for her baby. Doing this in a bathroom is unsanitary and other areas are not private enough mostly due to our culture taboo on seeing breast.
    Now before we get all the Right Wing hate, about how this is so expensive and cuts in productivity. Just remember how much time is wasted for smoking breaks, creating unused conference rooms, or the Empty office packed with tacky Christmas decorations. For the most part this is just labeling an unused room for a purpose.

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  10. Re:Randy by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yes, I agree, it's not ok to screw in a lactation room.

    There should be a dedicated room for fucking a coworker. If only due to the culture taboo of shagging someone in public.

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  11. Re:This is literally ridiculous by jareth-0205 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Violence and child abuse is now the same as dehumanising speech?

    Probably depends on how much and how often you have to deal with it. Speech matters.

    Having to deal day-in-day-out with the conspiracy nuts, literal nazis, threats of violence etc., after a while, little by little, that's going to change you. That's exactly what they're talking about. Since you or I haven't done that job we aren't in a good position to judge what it's like.

  12. Re:This is literally ridiculous by Stan92057 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Never ceases to amaze me how some people think that because its said on the internet words don't hurt, that its not real..somehow.

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  13. Re:High on the job is an instant firing, by Penguinisto · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Not a single person that is hanging the chickens upside down by their legs is sober. And nobody cares.

    ...Hell, none of those folks had a green card, let alone sobriety. ;)

    (Guess where I worked while putting myself through school?)

    However, you do bring up a good point: There are shit jobs everywhere. You do it and cash the paychecks while busting your ass to find something better (or you do it to get some sort of income until you graduate). Only the terminally lazy or incompetent stay at such a job for very long, and high turnover is not only endured, but expected. Think of it as the Telemarketer job, only you don't have to talk to people this time.

    TFA's job doesn't take much in the way of skill - look at stuff, click buttons, move on. It's not as if Facebook has anything approaching QA for it - I mean, outside of a few (highly publicized) cases involving important people, what is the victim of bad/false Facebook moderation going to do - demand his money back? Given the tsunami of complaints about posts every day, you could simply nuke every post in your queue from orbit, and it would make approximately no difference. *shrug*

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  14. Re:Randy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    >There should be a dedicated room for fucking a coworker.

    It's called HR office.

  15. Re:Randy by Opportunist · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That's the dedicated room for fucking with a coworker.

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