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Geologists Find Where Some Stonehenge Rocks Came From, Debunking Old Research (cnn.com)

Slashdot reader schwit1 shares a report from CNN: A team of 12 geologists and archaeologists from across the United Kingdom unveiled research this month that traces some of the prehistoric monument's smaller stones to two quarries in western Wales. The team also found evidence of prehistoric tools, stone wedges and digging activity in those quarries, tracing them to around 3000 BC, the era when Stonehenge's first stage was constructed. It's rock-solid evidence that humans were involved in moving these "bluestones" to where they sit today, a full 150 miles away, the researchers say. "It finally puts to rest long-standing arguments over whether the bluestones were moved by human agency or by glacial action," University of Southampton Archeology Professor Joshua Pollard said in an email. Slashdot reader schwit1 adds: "This leaves the question of how..."

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  1. Don't bother by youngone · · Score: 4, Funny

    TL;DR It was aliens

  2. Best option for shipping bluestones by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 3, Funny

    ... whether the bluestones were moved by human agency ...

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    1. Re:Best option for shipping bluestones by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 5, Funny

      ... or by glacial action.

      U.K. Royal Mail.

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  3. Re:Nonsense by PPH · · Score: 4, Funny

    I can think of a few uses for Catherine Zeta-Jones.

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  4. Re:This is new? by jrumney · · Score: 5, Informative

    From the first line of the article: Scientists have long known the stones came from the Preseli Hills, but the new research helps disprove claims about the original rock locations made in 1923 by famous British geologist H.H. Thomas. The correct quarries, called Carn Goedog and Craig Rhos-y-felin, are on the north side of the hills -- opposite their long-suspected location, the new findings indicate.

    So it seems that yes, we have know for almost 100 years that the rocks came from quarries in western Wales. This has just changed the precise location of those quarries within the Preseli Hills.

  5. One guy can easily raise a single stone. by F34nor · · Score: 2
  6. Re:Ummm ... by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Informative

    150 miles over the hills of Wales and across the Severn into England?

    Only if they were stupid.

    The Preseli Quarry is only 5 miles from the coast of the Irish Sea (all downhill). From there, they could be moved by barge up the Bristol Channel. Then across 40 miles of flat ground to the Salisbury Plain.

    Disclaimer: I use miles instead of kilometers because Britain wasn't metric yet in 3000 BC.

  7. Re:Ummm ... by sml156 · · Score: 2, Funny

    The earth was flat 3000 tears ago.

  8. Re:Ummm ... by Xest · · Score: 4, Informative

    Britain still isn't metric now in terms of distances. All our roads, vehicles, etc. still measure everything in miles.

  9. Ho hum by jd · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The new parts aren't quoted or are understated.

    1. We already knew about the quarries, what we didn't have were the actual tools used. We now have them, including wooden items.

    2. We already knew about how they could have moved the stones, they're smaller and lighter than sarsens, we didn't know the route. We now know some were transported overland.

    3. We didn't know if the stones were quarried specifically for Stonehenge or for a circle in Wales that was dismantled and recycled. We now know it was the former.

    The real mystery is why people make a mystery of the known, when the unknown is potentially more interesting.

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    1. Re:Ho hum by ledow · · Score: 3, Interesting

      No, the real mystery is why people travel thousands of miles to look at a couple of stones from a great distance, and at great expense.

      I literally know someone from the US who come to the UK as part of an organised tour of the EU. They got off at Heathrow. Got on a coach. Travelled to Stonehenge. Looked at Stonehenge. Got back on the coach. Went back to Heathrow. Got on another plane to somewhere else.

      And they were *pleased* about that - they kept saying how they'd seen the UK.

      Stonehenge is no doubt an interesting archaeological dig. But it is far from an interesting visitor attraction, especially when you can't get within any reasonable distance of it any more. Given away by the fact that it was there for thousands of years and everyone forgot about it.

      By the way, you can drive to just about any part of the UK and find stone-circles. Not as impressive, I'll grant you, but everything you can see of Stonehenge you can see from the long fast road that passes by it at 60mph (particularly pretty at sunset, I'd like to add).

      And that should be the tourism tagline: "Best viewed at 60mph on the way to somewhere else".

    2. Re:Ho hum by nukenerd · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Dr Johnson had some words about tourist attractions : "Worth seeing, but not worth going to see."

    3. Re:Ho hum by jd · · Score: 5, Informative

      You're thinking in isolation. And most tourists do, granted. Fools.

      I never just look at Stonehenge. Which, by the way, has more than two stones. I look at Avebury, Silbury Hill, West Kennet Barrow, Woodhenge, The Sanctuary, the King's Barrows, the Ridgeway, a good view of the Great Cursus.

      And, no, you can't get at Nine Maiden's what you get at Stonehenge, different construction style for a start and very different philosophy.

      Sure, there are those who see a pile of stones. I can't educate those who are blind to reason, so I don't care about them. I care about the people who are intrigued by acoustically engineered surfaces, the advanced construction techniques, the landscape in which everything happened.

      And it was an incredibly busy landscape rich with symbolism we barely grasp. Stonehenge isn't an isolated thing but a single component of a vast web of functional monuments.

      The circle down the road won't compare.

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  10. Re: Ummm ... by jd · · Score: 3, Informative

    They would not have had domesticated horses. Too early. England didn't get those for a further 2,000 years.

    In fact, horses weren't domesticated anywhere at the time Stonehenge was started. Proto-Indo-Europeans only domesticated them 5,000 years ago, but Stonehenge construction had been underway for maybe 500 years by then.

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  11. Can be done without machinery by Roodvlees · · Score: 2

    One guy can move big blocks of stone by hand.
    This construction worker figured it out:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
    Just use the hardness of stone in your favor.
    He places the rock on 2 small stones, balances it on one, then rotates and lets it down on the other. And there's rolling logs, etc.

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  12. Re:Nonsense by queBurro · · Score: 2

    The M4?

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  13. Re:Sisyphus by azcoyote · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's basically the same reason that people still compete for the world's tallest building and for breaking Guinness's silly world records--because we can. I always cringe at documentaries that try to come up with silly explanations, including space aliens, because it's amazing that we still don't understand ourselves. Humans have always been symbolic creatures--not mere practical creatures--and so we do things because we feel them to be meaningful, not simply because we think they might be useful.

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  14. Re:Sisyphus by GerryHattrick · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Interesting hypothesis. Achievements on behalf of your tribe, or atonement for punishments inflicted by your Gods? Note that Stonehenge embankments are profiled to defend against the INSIDE - what did they fear would emerge from within?