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More People Bought Physical CDs and Vinyl Than Songs on iTunes Last Year (bgr.com)

An anonymous reader quotes BGR: Sales from individual song downloads have unsurprisingly been falling with no end in sight, thanks to the convenience of streaming options like Spotify and Apple Music. A new report, though, makes clear just how few people there are these days who will buy individual digital songs -- there are so few of them, in fact, that they were outnumbered in 2018 by people who went old-school and bought actual compact discs and vinyl records.

According to the Recording Industry Association of America, total download sales in 2018 -- for which iTunes led the pack -- dropped almost 30%, to a little more than $1 billion. Purchases of full album downloads likewise fell, by 25%. To put that in context, download sales represented more than 40% of the music industry's revenue back in 2013. Last year? About 11%.

Meanwhile, that drop in sales has resulted in a lop-sided reality that harkens back to the pre-iTunes days. Sales of physical media including CDs and vinyl, according to the RIAA's new report, were down 23 percent but totaled $1.15 billion, thus edging out digital download sales. Another interesting takeaway from the new report: Music fans bought almost $420 million worth of vinyl in 2018, which Cult of Mac notes in a piece today is almost as much as people spent buying album downloads from iTunes last year.

The RIAA reports that "virtually all the revenue growth" for 2018 came from streaming music platforms like Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music, and Tidal, which last year collectively added 1 million new subscribers every single month, and now have a record number of more than 50 million subscribers.

"By the way, don't be fooled into reading something positive about CDs from the title of this post," adds BGR. "While physical media sales were down 23%, CD sales themselves slipped 34% for the year to $698 million. That's the first time CD yearly revenue has come in below $1 billion since 1986."

160 comments

  1. Indie music, indie platforms. by eggman9713 · · Score: 4, Informative

    I've been getting way more into indie music genres, and by far my most used purchasing platform is now Bandcamp. DRM-free downloads, the ability to preview the entire track or album before buying, stream the purchased music on their mobile app, and the ability to download high-quality AIFF, WAV, FLAC, etc. formats for archivists and packrats like me. Any time I find a piece of music I want to buy, I always check Bandcamp first. iTunes is now my last resort for digital purchase.

    1. Re:Indie music, indie platforms. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I find plenty of good music there -- where "good" is defined as "music I like". If you don't like it, that doesn't bother me a bit. Bandcamp is great for the 80s style synthpop instrumental music I really enjoy. There are still musicians producing new songs in that style, and I'm sure not going to find that on any streaming app.

    2. Re:Indie music, indie platforms. by shplopt · · Score: 1

      Bandcamp came along at just the right time. Mp3.com was a great idea but the infrastructure and the audience just weren't there for selling digital music at the time. Independent musicians limped along on myspace for a few years until Facebook made things even worse. Bandcamp really did everything right with a DRM-free, artist-friendly business model that integrated Creative Commons licensing directly into the upload process. It's entirely possible that it, like everything good, will eventually be slowly destroyed by business majors, but for now it's a really great model and I hope it sticks around for as long as possible.

    3. Re:Indie music, indie platforms. by ctilsie242 · · Score: 2

      For some reason, the big labels seemed to have dropped some of the bands that are not big, but are worth listening to. Thankfully, Bandcamp has picked them up.

      The closest analog to Bandcamp is the old mp3.com. There is a lot of mediocre stuff there... but there is a lot of very good stuff that is worth a listen. Worst case, if you don't like a band, go to another page.

      The fact that I can download in a high quality format (WAV, FLAC, ALAC) makes it worth it. I can keep the uncompressed or lossless compressed stuff in my media library, and transcode as needed, depending on device.

    4. Re: Indie music, indie platforms. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I always buy CDs from my local music shops because online shops only carry mainstream or indie garbage.

    5. Re: Indie music, indie platforms. by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 1

      I always buy CDs from my local music shops because online shops only carry mainstream or indie garbage.

      So you only like music that is not extremely popular, but not quite so esoteric as to be considered indie?

    6. Re:Indie music, indie platforms. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same for me. iTunes was my main music purchasing source for a short few years, but I get almost everything through Bandcamp now, even if I just import the songs into my iTunes after. Too much of what I listen to isn't on iTunes, and even if it is, Bandcamp forwards more of the music to the artists. Most of my frineds have moved to streaming methods, but those are my friends that migrated from CD's or pirating - they never used iTunes.

  2. It's about preservation by MpVpRb · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If I love a piece of music enough that want to preserve it in my library, I want a CD for backup, even if most times I listen to it as bits on a device
    I trust my backup abilities way more than I trust the cloud or streaming services

    1. Re:It's about preservation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I have perfectly playable CD's from 1983. That is 35 years ago. What do you think the odds are that your streaming service will be around in 2055? Oh, and I have never lost a CD or had one stop working and I used to carry them in cars when cars had CD players.

    2. Re:It's about preservation by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      I think some people just like the physical package. Feels more substantial and permanent than a download. Also an opportunity for he band to go beyond just music and do other forms of art.

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    3. Re:It's about preservation by Mike+Frett · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Knowingly spewing BS like should be a crime. I've got 30 year old CD's that I've taken care of, which isn't that difficult at all. If a CD get's burnt up in a fire that's one CD, when a cloud service goes belly up, which happens often, that's millions of virtual CD's.
      There are 1001 ways streaming services are NOT better. Let's not even talk about what happens if the electricity goes out or how a person can convert all their CD's to MP3's.

      So I apologize, but you're full of it.

    4. Re:It's about preservation by DethLok · · Score: 1

      What I do (and I suspect I'm not alone):

      Insert CD into PC.

      Rip CD to mp3

      Remove CD, store in case in CD library.

      Listen to mp3 forever. ...

      What is the issue here? What are are you failing to comprehend?

    5. Re:It's about preservation by Drethon · · Score: 1

      What I do (and I suspect I'm not alone):

      Insert CD into PC.

      Rip CD to mp3

      Remove CD, store in case in CD library.

      Listen to mp3 forever. ...

      What is the issue here? What are are you failing to comprehend?

      And iTunes provides the ability to convert their music to a CD, so for people who are concerned about iTunes removing music, there is a solution.

    6. Re:It's about preservation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you're claiming that iTunes is a better way of preserving music than CD because you can use iTunes to convert your music to a CD and store it so you don't lose it when it disappears from iTunes.

      My only question about all that is "how high were you when you posted that?

    7. Re:It's about preservation by careysub · · Score: 2

      CDs get lost, burn up in fires, get scratch, lots of things happen. streaming services generally are a much better way to preserve the files.

      This claim - that it is silly to cache stuff locally in media that you control, that the "net will provide" - is something I've heard ever since before the Internet went public.

      As the half-life of digital services is a few years at most, over the course of a decade or two, access to lots of things disappear. Any sort of service providing access to copyrighted material at a reasonable cost is one lobbyist-written piece of legislation, or lawsuit under existing law, away from being taken away. That is if the service itself does not suddenly shut down for its own reasons.

      There is a reason that Archive.org exists, and is very important, and it does not successfully save everything. If there is something on the Internet this is of value to you, you should cache it locally.

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    8. Re:It's about preservation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      On alternate note, I have cd's from the 80's, and certain ones are degrading, rapidly. EAC is nice, but not infallible

    9. Re:It's about preservation by Drethon · · Score: 1

      So you're claiming that iTunes is a better way of preserving music than CD because you can use iTunes to convert your music to a CD and store it so you don't lose it when it disappears from iTunes.

      My only question about all that is "how high were you when you posted that?

      Which part of my post said anything was better? I'm just stating that there is a drm free backup method in iTunes for those who's primary concern is iTunes will remove their music. Personally, I just don't like having a bunch of physical CDs sitting around anymore so went digital with everything.

    10. Re: It's about preservation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Slashdot is fu of libtards who see nothing wrong with stealing music.

    11. Re: It's about preservation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      With my experience across multiple companies and multiple industries for many years, when it comes to licensing IP (software, music, games, whatever), anything that relies on a remote vendors authentication or provisional services simply stops working after a time period, either by design or changes in profit driven business goals/direction.

      They are businesses and IP creators and most IP providers don't make money as archival services. This archive argument doesn't hold up against historical data.

      Now while it's true the services can be useful as a redundant backup plan or a convenient access platform for some time period, licensing rights for third parties (between you and the IP owner/creator) adds another point of failure.

    12. Re:It's about preservation by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      And iTunes provides the ability to convert their music to a CD, so for people who are concerned about iTunes removing music, there is a solution.

      iTunes music is DRM free nowadays. Download it, make a copy of it, and play it anywhere. Anything that can play an AAC file can play an iTunes file .

      Even if iTunes deletes the file, you still have your backups, and they'll still play because there's no DRM on them.

      The only time you're screwed is if you leave your iTunes music "in the cloud" and down't bother downloading it anywhere.

    13. Re:It's about preservation by RuiFRibeiro · · Score: 1

      What presentation? CDs are a bit of ugly plastic that take valuable real estate space both at the store and at your home. and let's not get started on their negative impact/ ecologic footprint.

    14. Re:It's about preservation by RuiFRibeiro · · Score: 1

      interesting. Artificial aging studies in the past established CDs with 15-20 years had a high probability of having bit-rot, or have I dreamed that?

    15. Re:It's about preservation by oh_my_080980980 · · Score: 1

      mp3? Wow...I thought you wanted to listen to music....

    16. Re:It's about preservation by No+Longer+an+AC · · Score: 1

      With rare exceptions my experience has been similar.

      Except for crappy CD-Rs, I've only managed to scratch fewer than a half-dozen enough to affect their playability.

      I can't remember which album it was, but one of the early ones I bought had a scratch right out of the case that caused it to skip. I tried to exchange it and they stonewalled me claiming that Sony wouldn't put out a faulty product or some such nonsense and I guess I was too young and stupid to raise hell about it.

      Let's all have a good laugh at the idea of Sony's QA being perfect.

    17. Re:It's about preservation by No+Longer+an+AC · · Score: 1

      Remember the controversy of the "longbox"?

      What's with the CD longbox? -- We look into the wasteful packaging of CDs (published April 20, 1990)

      In honor of Earth Day on April 22, how about a clean thought: The music industry could eliminate more than 18.5 million pounds of trash each year if it only would change the way it packages compact discs. That is, roughly, the same amount of garbage created daily by a population the size of Missouri’s.

      Daily Missouri Garbage Creation is apparently a unit of measurement we should all be familiar with.

      Since April 1, when Canada stopped using longboxes, Americans have been the only people in the world who have to pollute for their music. The United States is unlikely to follow Canada’s lead in the near future. None of the major forces in the American retail market for music, the world’s largest, want to bear the costs of changing the way CDs are sold.

      That bolded part seems a bit unfair given that as you point out the case alone has an environmental cost.

      Here's an example of "good presentation" in CD packaging:

      Spiral-Bound Booklet Format

      Of course it's not going to fit in a whole lot of CD shelves and since it's thin cardboard you'll have to be nicer to it if you want to keep it nice.

    18. Re:It's about preservation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can load your personal library into Google Music and it with let you stream it, and I sincerely doubt Google is going to shutdown anytime soon. So you can have your cake and eat it too. P.S I believe GM has semi hifi bitrate playback, i think about twice as good as MP3s, not quite at flac, but still good.

    19. Re: It's about preservation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, slashdot is just full of people that think shitty old stuff isn't as shitty as it really was back in its heyday, like vinyl and socialism.

    20. Re:It's about preservation by DethLok · · Score: 1

      Ha ha, yeah, it's lossy compression, certainly.

      But I'm listening when driving a car, with all the attendent road noises while I'm concentrating on staying alive, avoiding accidents and arriving safely. Lossy compression is fine for that. And... my car doesn't have a CD player, that's on the more expensive model (!!) Mine just has usb, SD card or radio, oddly. I use a 16 gig SD card.

      Or I'm at work, concentrating on making my 'clients' unhappy. Or happy, though that's not the common outcome. So again, it's background noise to drown out the office cacophony. Lossy compression is fine for that too.

      Or I'm where I am now, at my gaming pc, usually playing a game with it's own strident noises and yep, lossy compressed mp3s are, you got it, fine for that purpose too.

      It's been... actually about 5 days since I listened to a CD, I bought the JJJ Hottest 100 #26 and listened to it at work, though I've got it on usb there as well. I admit I couldn't tell the difference between them, as I was concentrating on working, not chilling out listening to the music.

      So, for 99% of my purpose, mp3 is fine, and keeps the CD 'safe', and I've got insurance that covers the loss of CDs and such if my house is burgled, burned or whatever.

      Horses for courses. And no, I don't use headphones.

    21. Re:It's about preservation by McFortner · · Score: 1

      Except when they don't anymore. For further information, look it up under "Apple deletes iTunes music", "Amazon deletes digital content on my Kindle", and so forth. You will see plenty of examples of when this has happened before. Then see how many times those same actors managed to delete people's CDs, DVD, LPs, and cassettes.


      Go ahead, I'll wait....

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  3. No surprise by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    Most folks steam their music.

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    1. Re:No surprise by chispito · · Score: 4, Funny

      Most folks steam their music.

      Yes, we call them "steamed jams." It's an Albany expression.

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    2. Re:No surprise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      And us older folks called it Radio.

      mutter mutter

      Now get off my lawn damnit

  4. cheaper to spotify by known_coward_69 · · Score: 1

    $10 a month, why would anyone want to pay $1 for one song?

    1. Re:cheaper to spotify by BlazeMiskulin · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Because I only pay for that song once. I can listen to it for the next 50 years without paying anything more, and it can't be "discontinued".

      I have vinyl going back 70+ years. It was paid for once, and generations of our family can still listen to it.

      If you want to rent your music and have its availability subject to the whims of someone else, that's your choice. Some of us, however, prefer ownership.

    2. Re:cheaper to spotify by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They sign a contract with someone or someone in a cubicle hatches a money scheme and the songs you want, vanish.

    3. Re:cheaper to spotify by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 0

      $10 a month, why would anyone want to pay $1 for one song?

      Because I buy way fewer than 10 songs per month. Heck, I doubt if I buy 10 songs per year. I mostly listen to oldies, and I got nearly all I wanted back when Napster made them all free.

      Also, by having my own copy, I will be able to listen to music in my fallout shelter after civilization collapses, while you streamers will be SOL.

    4. Re:cheaper to spotify by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you want to rent your music and have its availability subject to the whims of someone else, that's your choice. Some of us, however, prefer ownership.

      I prefer to both rent and own. I own a large number of vinyl records and CDs, and I occasionally add essential items to those collections - particularly reissue material that has long been dear, and may be difficult to find on commercial streaming services. But a lot of my day-to-day listening is through streaming services, and a good deal of what I listen to is great to hear, but not essential to own. The streaming services also provide a great way to hear new music that I may eventually buy a copy of.

    5. Re:cheaper to spotify by MightyYar · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I spend a tiny fraction on music compared to in the past. I discover music on YouTube or some other free streaming service and only buy when I really, really like it and want to listen repeatedly. In the bad ol' days, I'd hear one good song and buy an entire - sometimes terrible - album. Now I can try before I buy.

      I'm also older, so there's that. Old people don't spend as much on music.

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    6. Re:cheaper to spotify by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same here. iTunes absolutely sucks! Streaming is a sucky fad that will go away eventually. Seriously, I have listened to streaming services including satellite services. The music is so often miss-categorized that I can't stand it! The last CD that I bought was more than 18 years ago, and was so over-compressed (everyone trying to have the loudest sounding CD) that the music sounded distorted! I find music that I like in YouTube, and then buy the tracks that I like (NOT from iTunes). There has been very little good music produced in the last 20 years. The same with movies and TV shows.
      By buying the tracks that I like, I can listen on any device whether or not that device is connected to the Internet. I can burn my own CD-R disks to play in the car. All of my music is also backed up on several backup media (NOT to the Internet) as are al of my important files.

      And the part that I like best, I pay once for the music, not every time that I listen to it!!

    7. Re:cheaper to spotify by PKFC · · Score: 1

      Yeah what's missing from the discussion is that this statistic is sales by revenue. So sure streaming is >75% of revenue (wtf is that 3% synch amount I saw? https://www.macrumors.com/2019...) and digital sales are 11%.

      Vinyl and CDs is 12% (ok mainly just vinyl) because a record costs $20. A CD costs $10. iTunes store is $9.99. My favourite band launched preorders of their newest album coming at the end of this month and they had 500 limited edition coloured vinyl for $22 which easily sold out within a day. So something that costs more makes more revenue. Hmmm.... (now doing the math that chart is 101% as it's rounded to the nearest percent so the difference is literally a rounding error)

    8. Re:cheaper to spotify by war4peace · · Score: 1

      Spotify costs 5 EUR per month here. For that amount, you can buy 5 songs you own forever, and listen to them endlessly for free. I can listen to thousands of songs through the whole month, allowing me to pick the ones I love most, and whose albums I would buy.
      Streaming services and CDs work together, they complete each other. I pick the best of both worlds.

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    9. Re:cheaper to spotify by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      I keep a wind-up gramophone in the basement with a stack of shellac 78s for just that eventuality.

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    10. Re:cheaper to spotify by DethLok · · Score: 1

      I've filled an Ikea Billy bookcase with CDs.

      To be accurate, two half height Billy bookcases.

      They are all ripped to mp3 and that's what I listen to.

      And they are all insured (house and contents policy).

      Sure, YouTube is ok for music vids, but for driving, or at work, a usb stick full of 1,000s of mp3s that I like is far superior.

      And FREE.

    11. Re:cheaper to spotify by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because unlike idiot Millennials I actually like owning my stuff rather than renting it.

    12. Re:cheaper to spotify by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 1

      Because I only pay for that song once. I can listen to it for the next 50 years without paying anything more, and it can't be "discontinued".

      I have vinyl going back 70+ years. It was paid for once, and generations of our family can still listen to it.

      If you want to rent your music and have its availability subject to the whims of someone else, that's your choice. Some of us, however, prefer ownership.

      And that's fine, to each their own.

      I just can't be bothered anymore. I have too much crap as it is. And I don't feel like adding ripping, storing, backing up, format fiddling, etc. to my responsibilities.

      It's also nice whenever someone even mentions a song, or I think of one, or hear a bit of it, that I can pull up any song, anytime, and listen to it in good quality. (Yeah, I could YouTube for that part, if I wanted ads and not really knowing what I'm getting. No thanks.)

      All for less than the price of one CD per month. I'd gladly pay someone that merely to not have stacks of dusty CDs (I have that whittled down to one stack about a foot high now, someday I'll bring myself to get rid if it.)

    13. Re:cheaper to spotify by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      I have to disagree that there is little good music/TV over the last 20 years. It's all subjective, of course, but we are in something of a golden age with TV in particular. With music, I used to spend half a day at the record store flipping through albums - trying some if I happened to be at one of the downtown places with the listening stations. After all that, I'd come away with an album or two, spending around $20-30. Now I can get an even better experience just sitting at my computer and not spend a dime. Radio music is largely garbage, but there are just as many talented artists making great music as there ever were. Yes, lower production costs mean crap has also grown exponentially - but I never run out of things to listen to.

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    14. Re:cheaper to spotify by McFortner · · Score: 1

      I spend a tiny fraction on music compared to in the past. I discover music on YouTube or some other free streaming service and only buy when I really, really like it and want to listen repeatedly.

      Until YouTube pulls it for copyright complaints and it's no longer there. It happens a lot more than you think. It happend to some of my pre-1971 music files I posted BEFORE the copyright laws on audio recordings changed.

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    15. Re:cheaper to spotify by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      If something I like disappears, then yeah I'll need to buy it.

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    16. Re:cheaper to spotify by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Download the video, use ffmpeg to rip the audio out. Problem solved.

    17. Re:cheaper to spotify by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most bands have their own channel and the videos won't go away because of a copyright complaint.

      numbnuts

    18. Re:cheaper to spotify by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Download the video, use ffmpeg to rip the audio out.

      I use MPEG Streamclip. Open video, export audio. Very user-friendly!

    19. Re:cheaper to spotify by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fuck that bullshit, you have to download quicktime. blech

      FFMPEG has a GUI for dipshits.

      numbnuts

    20. Re:cheaper to spotify by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, I use a Mac so Quicktime is already installed.

      (P.S. not arguing over which is better, just saying what I use)

  5. 50 million people are financing the whole industry by Doub · · Score: 1

    Is that the 1% finally giving back to the rest of the world?

  6. Can confirm, bought lot's of physical media in '18 by Proudrooster · · Score: 2

    Believe it or not, old school is back in my house.

    iPods, with Sound Docks (check, 30-pins are cheaper than dirt, good sound quality, easily repairable)
    iTunes library on a NAS (check)
    Plex Home Media Server on a NAS, (check)
    Rasperry Pi with Hi Fi Berry as a player (check)

    I love going on Ebay or to a local CD resale shop, finding media, bringing it home and putting it on the home media server then storing the media in the basement.

    Streaming is great, but you can never seem to find what you want when you want it, or you have to rent/but it.
    Streaming doesn't work it in the car, but the 128GB iPod works just fine with voice controls and playlists.

  7. Member 'berries? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    On 15 January 2018, O'Riordan was found unresponsive at the London Hilton on Park Lane hotel in Mayfair. She was pronounced dead later that same morning. The cause of death was not immediately made public, but an inquest held on 6 September ruled that she died as a result of accidental drowning in a bathtub, following sedation by alcohol intoxication. Empty bottles were found in O'Riordan's room (five miniature bottles and a champagne bottle) as well as some prescription drugs, but toxicology tests showed that her body contained only "therapeutic" amounts of these medications but 330 mg of alcohol per 100 ml of blood, a blood alcohol content of 0.33%.

    And now you know.

  8. Thoughts and Prayers To Digital Media by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My condolences to the companies affected. God bless.

  9. I buy a lot of used CDs, by pecosdave · · Score: 5, Informative

    you can seriously pick them up anywhere from a few bucks, to a few bucks for a box full, to free sometimes.

    When you want to buy music new on Amazon sometimes it's cheaper to buy the physical disk with "Auto-Rip" than it is to buy just the digital album.

    Either way, I rip the disk to Ogg/Vorbis and keep it on my phone, and everything else I own. They still sound awesome, and unlike vinyl and tape media they still sound just as good today as the day the original owner bought them fifteen years ago even if they were played hundreds of times. (unless you bought from an ogre that didn't take care of them, then you can still sometimes run the polisher)

    As far as I'm concerned buying a few used disks a month is cheaper than a bandwidth draining subscription service, and in time you'll have a better selection than they do anyways. Unless you like pop, in which case the cost and storage of your music isn't the first serious contemplation you need to make about your music.

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    1. Re:I buy a lot of used CDs, by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      This will probably always be the case because physical media can be sold second hand, which keeps prices down. There is no effective way that the music industry can control used CD prices.

      Downloads tend to stay full price or at least very over-priced. Audio books especially - you can buy them used for very little, but a digital version is often 20 to 30 bucks.

      PROTIP, don't waste your time ripping. Just head over to The Pirate Bay and grab a copy, complete with all the tagging and artwork done for you. The release groups have a standard format for everything so they are easy to organize. They check for defects and also include metadata for gapless playback.

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    2. Re:I buy a lot of used CDs, by pecosdave · · Score: 1

      How long does it take to compress a single disk these days? My ripper/compressor looks up the disk with CDDB, downloads the info, fills it in and I have a fully ready to go disk in what? Five minutes?

      I think that by the time I figure out where the pirate bay is today and find what I'm looking for I should already have it ripped and compressed with all the data filled in - in the format of my choice.

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    3. Re:I buy a lot of used CDs, by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Well if you want to do it to scene group release standards...

      You need to rip with a known good drive that can detect and re-read errors, and the compare with an online checksum database to make sure that the data is perfect. Then add tags in the standard format, not whatever crap CDDB has in it. Then add album artwork. Add a .cue file and metadata for gapless playback. Compress as FLAC or MP3 with specific settings in LAME. Finally rename all the files in the correct format.

      Of course for your own use you don't need to do all that, but it certainly helps with organization if you do.

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    4. Re:I buy a lot of used CDs, by pecosdave · · Score: 1

      perhaps

      Then again my hearing sucks. I like great sounding headphones, but if you give me ones that aren't the best I can't tell, as long as they don't outright suck. By the time I compress it to Ogg a lot of that checksum stuff is blown. Net result - it's probably quicker on my own, and I've heard the terminology "scene" before aimed at some sort of sub-culture, but I'm not sure my over 40 self really comprehends it.

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  10. Can't use Itunes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Of course! This is because there isn't a version of Itunes for Linux.

  11. iTunes doesn't work on my... by EzInKy · · Score: 1

    ...10 year old smartphone.

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    1. Re:iTunes doesn't work on my... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nobody cares, Sean.

      Nobody cares.

    2. Re:iTunes doesn't work on my... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I do! I care!

  12. Known for a while... by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

    Sales in general - media or downloaded - is dead. It's streaming, making up 75% of music consumption. CDs, albums, online sales are duking it out to see who can be the winner of the irrelevancy segment.

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    1. Re:Known for a while... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What about the statistic on yellow fever? You know, beyond your local 110%

    2. Re:Known for a while... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How the fuck do you consume a song?

      numbnuts

  13. Rent e-stuff, buy real stuff by pedz · · Score: 2

    I subscribe to Apple Music which isn't a "purchase" but closer to rental. I find it is real fun to walk through old collections of 60s and 70s groups. But if and when I buy something, I buy a CD, DVD, blu ray. I have purchased a very few items via download but there are (still) all sorts of fears and problems. You get the idea that the purchase is "in the cloud" and will be there forever but that's not true for a number of reasons. There are also issues with transfer of ownership (as far as I know) and generally there are problems with loaning folks your copy of something.

  14. Get with the times by Vanyle · · Score: 1

    No one uses iTunes anymore, its gone the way of CDs. And with modern technology, rightly so. There is no reason why music is so expensive when so many people want to play and there is nothing in the way of distribution anymore. The most you would need to pay for a reasonable setup for music is probably a few thousand dollars to make something half way decent that is good enough for most people.

    1. Re:Get with the times by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      iTunes is stupid.
      Installed iTunes. Played a song over the net. Cool - so far
      Put an old CD in the same PC - to play it. Usually, that starts the media player, but iTunes intervened and started instead. Now, having iTunes play the CD wouldn't be so bad, except that it didn't work. The network was down, and iTunes refused to play without an Internet connection - even though the media was local!

      Stupid iTunes. Couldn't spy and report home what was played, so it FAILED.
      Purged iTunes from PC, no more problems.

  15. Um... not to be too picky, but. by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Regardless of what Apple would have you believe, you don't really *buy* songs on iTunes, you rent them.
    (Same as with any service that doesn't provide you with physical media.)

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    1. Re:Um... not to be too picky, but. by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 4, Informative

      The music files are sitting on your local machine, in AAC format, and are all DRM free. I'm not sure how you consider that "renting."

      You can argue whether or not you care about having the data in uncompressed format, but beyond that, the argument seems a bit weak. They're both just digital bits on a physical medium.

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    2. Re:Um... not to be too picky, but. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's not true, When I buy a song on iTunes, I download a DRM-free file to my computer which I can keep "forever".

    3. Re:Um... not to be too picky, but. by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 1

      You buy songs on iTunes, are you retarded?

      No to both.

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    4. Re:Um... not to be too picky, but. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      Sure, I bought the songs, except when I updated my Mac, several songs were deleted without my consent or knowledge. I only found out after six months when I synced my iPhone and it reported that some of the songs were no longer available. Apparently this is a bug that goes back at least 2016 that has never been fixed. The songs are no longer associated with the albums that I bought, and the advice online was "you should have backed up your songs." Not very helpful advice after the fact. I have TimeMachine set up, but I wasn't able to go far enough back to restore the missing files. Now I have an album that jump from track 13 to track 16 because of the missing songs.

      Yes, you buy the songs from Apple, but Apple can modify your iTunes library without informing you of the changes or requiring your consent. And despite Apple causing the files to be deleted, they are not responsible for any damages.

      I regret making purchases through iTunes and having an iPhone, and an AppleTV, that is controlled by an external entity who can change the terms of service at any time.

    5. Re:Um... not to be too picky, but. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The music files are sitting on your local machine, in AAC format, and are all DRM free. I'm not sure how you consider that "renting."

      If you can't sell it, you don't own it.

      Dollars-to-donuts there's something in the TOS disallowing you from loaning, selling or giving the files away. The same terms would disallow inheritance, so your "purchase" dies with you.

      It's got your fingerprint (account information) embedded so it can be easily traced back to you if you dare to loan, sell or give it away.

      Even if the TOS didn't disallow it, good luck making a few bucks by selling your (or your inherited) unwanted music files to the used music store or online equivalent.

    6. Re: Um... not to be too picky, but. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      First sale doctrine is a bit of a mess for digital content. Basically if you didn't buy physical media you are renting not owning.

    7. Re:Um... not to be too picky, but. by tepples · · Score: 1

      the advice online was "you should have backed up your songs." Not very helpful advice after the fact. I have TimeMachine set up, but I wasn't able to go far enough

      Apple Time Machine is version control, which isn't quite complete as backup. A reliable backup strategy needs to incorporate offline storage.

    8. Re:Um... not to be too picky, but. by McFortner · · Score: 1

      Until Apple pulls it from your HD like they've done to others in the past. Just sayin'....

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    9. Re:Um... not to be too picky, but. by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      If you go to iTunes and buy a song, you bought it. So yes, you have some mental problems. I have hundreds of songs from iTunes.

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    10. Re:Um... not to be too picky, but. by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 1

      So yes, you have some mental problems.

      Being incorrect about something doesn't mean one has mental problems -- you judgmental ass. Several people pointed out that, while iTunes used to lock consumers in with DRM, they no longer do this. Sure, correct me because I was wrong -- that's fine -- but there's really no need to be a dick.

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    11. Re:Um... not to be too picky, but. by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      And what would DRM have to do with owning a song you bought, or not owning it?

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    12. Re:Um... not to be too picky, but. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > If you go to iTunes and buy a song, you bought it.

      The first time I migrated my iTunes to another computer and tried to play a track I had purchased, it popped up a message saying "this computer is not authorized to play this song."

      At that point I said fuck iTunes Music Store. From now on I'm only buying and ripping CDs.

  16. Apple is shit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They will decide that the songs you choose to listen to do not align with their core policies. Then you're banned and guess what. You never owned any of that music and now you definitely don't.

    1. Re: Apple is shit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cite a single example. You can't can you dipshit?

    2. Re: Apple is shit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      AC anecdote: https://entertainment.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=13506026&cid=58210900

  17. Radio by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Its called a RADIO, been around for over 100 years.
    Multiple "Channels", its ad supported and FREE to listen to. AND it does not use up any of your data, no one tracks you to sell you listening data to anyone, and you can get a device to listen for less than $10, and those devices even come with a headphone socket.

    DUH.

  18. It's the DRM by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sure you can de-authorize your computer (work or home) before trashing it, but most people are not quite that literate. Seemingly losing access to all your purchased music only needs to happen once to completely sour you on the notion of ever doing that again.

  19. Sloppy writing by sootman · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The headline says "More people bought physical CDs and vinyl than songs on iTunes" but the numbers given are "total download sales in 2018 [were] a little more than $1 billion", "Purchases of full album downloads likewise fell, by 25%", and finally "Sales of physical media... totaled $1.15 billion".

    So are we talking about number of people, as said in the headline, or song sales, or album sales, or money?

    I clicked through to the report and the most shocking thing to me was that people spent $25 million on ringtones and ringbacks in 2018.

    As far as I can tell, the numbers don't account for any second-hand sales of physical media at all, which may not be a thriving market but also isn't trivial, at least in terms of unit sales. Money-wise, it's probably pretty low, due to high supply and low demand resulting in low prices.

    Regardless of what they counted or how, I'm pretty sure most artists are still getting fucked.

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  20. iTunes music has been DRM-free for a decade by tepples · · Score: 4, Informative

    you don't really *buy* songs on iTunes, you rent them.
    (Same as with any service that doesn't provide you with physical media.)

    To be fair, music purchased on iTunes Store since 2009 has been delivered as DRM-free M4A (MPEG-4 AAC audio) files that play on numerous devices. You can back up these files to CD-R, DVD+R, or whatever other physical media you prefer.

    But I use Amazon instead of iTunes for one reason: Amazon makes a downloader available as a web application that works in Firefox for X11/Linux. It thus runs on an x86-64 desktop or laptop computer or on an Arm-powered Raspberry Pi computer. Amazon also publishes a native downloader for Android. iTunes Store, on the other hand, relies on a native downloader application available only for macOS, Windows, and iOS, and the Windows version was incompatible with Wine last I checked.

    1. Re:iTunes music has been DRM-free for a decade by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well that is just great for everyone who started buying digital music after 2009. What about us old fogies?

    2. Re:iTunes music has been DRM-free for a decade by j-beda · · Score: 3, Informative

      Well that is just great for everyone who started buying digital music after 2009. What about us old fogies?

      At some point there was an option available to "upgrade" previously DRMed music to tracks without DRM, I think for an extra fee. One can also do some tricks with "iTunes match" to get higher bitrate, non-DRM versions of music from Apple. However, this only works for music that is in Apple's current catalogue - I think if your have DRM versions of music that Apple no longer sells, you can still re-download it, but it is still the old DRMed file.

      Anyhow, here are some directions from Apple on how to upgrade tracks to "iTunes Plus" - https://support.apple.com/en-c...

    3. Re:iTunes music has been DRM-free for a decade by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To be fair, music purchased on iTunes Store since 2009 has been delivered as DRM-free M4A (MPEG-4 AAC audio) files that play on numerous devices.

      They may not be DRM-encumbered, but the files still have your account info embedded. If you dare to transfer ownership -- lend, sell, give, whatever -- and the wrong people find out, you can be easily identified as the source. Don't be surprised if some overzealous lawyers treat you like a criminal because you thought you owned what you paid for.

    4. Re:iTunes music has been DRM-free for a decade by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Burn to CD and then rip the CD to the format of your choice. Real old fogies would already know that though.

  21. any platform, if the song was released in Vinyl by williamyf · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If you take a "Modern" song, and try to put it in Vinyl, the moder equalization would make the needle jump out of the record. This is termed "Loudness Wars", and was made possible by the introduction of Digital Music (CD, DCC, MiniDisk, etc).

    If the song you want was released in Vinyl AND the same mix was used for Vinyl, CD and digital download, you can feel free to get it in the media most convenient to you.

    If, on the other hand, there are different mixes dependeng on the media, go for Vinyl, you will not get the most acurate reproduction, and there may be noise, but at least, you will get a hell of a lot better dynamic range in your song.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/0...

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    1. Re:any platform, if the song was released in Vinyl by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A vinyl mix may simply have less overall level but still limited dynamic range. The maximum available dynamic range on CD is greater.

  22. Radio selection by tepples · · Score: 1

    Because of bandwidth limits and payola, the selection of music streamed on FM radio tends to be noticeably inferior, particularly of less mainstream genres or recording artists not on major labels. Your favorite genre might not fit into the "format" (genre set) that existing stations follow. And even if you do find a station you enjoy, it won't follow you when you travel even domestically. In addition, paid plans for Internet streaming music services also lack ads and have on-demand functionality, as opposed to ads and forced multi-artist shuffle like FM and free Pandora.

    1. Re:Radio selection by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When I have travelled, I have taken it as an opportunity to listen to local music (in a number of different countries) and I also listen to buskers and buy CDs from them.

      Your "curated" music is just as limited, and it costs you.

    2. Re:Radio selection by DethLok · · Score: 1

      I give you this radio station, website and promoter of NEW artists:

      https://www.abc.net.au/triplej...

      Check out their site, including Unearthed, and their streaming sites (JJJ an JJ).

      You're welcome.

  23. Fortnite in a month makes more $ than by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    all the music industry in a year. I say this is news that is due.

  24. physical media is a pain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Losing access to your collection when the cloud provider goes out of business is also a pain.

    I'm going to stick to humming tunes to myself.

  25. Price by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The major problem I have is price. Looking at amazon, the MP3s cost as much as the CDs. Which makes no sense being that they're just bits on a harddrive. There practically no transportation costs, printing, packaging, handling, labor, etc. If they were 20-30% more cheaper than the CD, I'd buy consider buying them when I want something new.

    Until then, thrift stores are your best place. Buy CDs for a buck, rip them, then donate them back. Don't let the RIAA make mad money off artist who are well dead and gone.

    1. Re:Price by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Try libraries. Borrow the CDs, rip them, take them back.

    2. Re:Price by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Look closer, you can often get the CD + MP3's for cheaper than the CD and sometimes just the MP3's.

      I bought a huge collection of Leonard Cohen, I think it was all of his records except the last 3. The MP3's were like $75 or something insane but the CD's were $20 and came with the MP3's.

      It sucks balls that they don't offer FLAC but the MP3's are high bitrate, good enough for most uses. So I always get the CD's and come with "auto-rip" best of both worlds.

      numbnuts

  26. Old people who don't understand tech by bobbutts · · Score: 1

    Spotify (and I assume all the other streaming services) gives you the ability to add your own local music files so you can enjoy the best of both the streaming and playing local files. You can also download the tracks to your device for playback without any streaming, so you don't need to rely on the network in order to enjoy your music. You can even purpose an older device or cheap "burner" model and only come online once in awhile to update the library. It's ridiculous how many people here criticize the tech without having any knowledge whatsoever of what it's capabilities are. You have become as useless as my grandparents.

    1. Re:Old people who don't understand tech by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's ridiculous how many people here criticize the tech without having any knowledge whatsoever of what it's capabilities are. You have become as useless as my grandparents.

      It's not really that surprising when you consider the many ways the media companies have gone out of their way to screw us every which way they could over the past many decades. Your believing that they've somehow become less evil just demonstrates your youth and naiveté. It's not about the tech, it's about the people behind the media.

    2. Re:Old people who don't understand tech by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stop paying and all the music goes poof. That is sheer idiocy. The complaint is not the actual streaming part, it is the rental part. Most of us have a private streaming set up.

      numbnuts

  27. It's impossible to hold a "streaming" file. by TigerPlish · · Score: 4, Insightful

    But a record, ahhh... that's tangible. Feel it. Smell it. The smell of library. The smell of history. The smell of many rounds of weed cleaned with licenses on the folds of an LP cover.

    Run the Hunt EDA carbon fiber along the surface.

    Brush off the dust bunnies off the stylus.

    Hear the ker-thunk *plop* as the stylus settles into the groove.

    Watch the the filaments in the KT-88 power tubes run their cheerful cherry orange. Ditty for the 12AX7s in the preamp. Smell it. Dust on hot glass.

    Amaze yourself at the total lack of snap-crackle-pop, because you have a real turntable, not some made-in-china massmarket unit. No, you're running something German, from the mid-70's. When vinyl was the only game, really.

    Streaming for convenience. Physical, tangible, for the foreverness.

    I'm going to say this very carefully, very deliberately: Fuck... this modern world and its 100% fakeness. Fuck it long and hard, dry, with a very splintered phone pole.

    There's *nothing* like that which you can hold, and store, and cherish, and long for, lust for. Fuck this fake digital modern world.

    But truly, nothing beats the sheet music in front of you, with your barely-able fingers poised over the ebonies and ivories.

    Fuck this modern world and those who worship at its altar.

    There's still room for the old ways.

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    1. Re:It's impossible to hold a "streaming" file. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      *Sent from my iPhone

    2. Re:It's impossible to hold a "streaming" file. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well played sir.

  28. Buy then digitize by SuperKendall · · Score: 5, Interesting

    CDs get lost, burn up in fires, get scratch, lots of things happen. streaming services generally are a much better way to preserve the files.

    You think that right up until your streaming service of choice suddenly drops some music you listen to often. There is more music than you think that can drift in and out of music service coverage... this has happened to my wife before.

    With a CD, as long as you can read it once you are golden. Just digitize it yourself - using a service like iTunes Match even means you can still listen to it even if it's not on the streaming service the company offers. (not sure what companies besides Apple offer something like iTunes Match).

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    1. Re:Buy then digitize by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You don't have to digitize music on CD, it's already digital, just rip it and you're done.

    2. Re:Buy then digitize by GrumpySteen · · Score: 2

      Pedantry for the win!

    3. Re:Buy then digitize by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But, but, but.... THAT'S PIRACY!!!

      You dirty digital pirate. I aught to turn you into RIAA.

      Please don't even bother to argue that what you are doing is not making an unlicensed copy of the music because you most certainly are. At least when you use the streaming services you are not breaking the laws. After all, the RIAA paid hundreds of lawyers over multiple decades to carefully craft those laws, the least you can do is follow them.

    4. Re:Buy then digitize by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      CD is an analog medium.

      The CD player measures lands and pits that are an analog of the original bits. The read laser is not reading 1's and 0's, it is measuring lands to figure out how many 0's are needed.

      The spin speed is why CD Data is never continues in the spiral and is also duplicated all over the disk for error correction purposes.

    5. Re:Buy then digitize by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wrong, CD is a digital format. By your standard, there could be no such thing because photons, electrons, etc. are physical things.

      Analog/digital is about the signal, not the physical medium used to store the signal.

    6. Re:Buy then digitize by No+Longer+an+AC · · Score: 1

      You got me thinking. Would a music box be considered the first digital music? Either it plucks something to make a sound or it doesn't - it's a simply off or on.

      Same thing with a player piano.

    7. Re:Buy then digitize by radarskiy · · Score: 1

      A digital signal is just the limit of an analog signal as gain goes to infinity.
      An analog signal is just the limit of a digital signal as frequency goes to infinity.

    8. Re:Buy then digitize by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A digital signal is an analog representation of discrete data. It represents numbers. A CD contains *numerical data* encoding the audio signal. It's digital, period.

    9. Re:Buy then digitize by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You got me thinking. Would a music box be considered the first digital music? Either it plucks something to make a sound or it doesn't - it's a simply off or on. Same thing with a player piano.

      Sure, but it's more like MIDI than PCM. :)

  29. Re:50 million people are financing the whole indus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Obviously not. Most of these people don't have 500$ in bank. Also, "Recording Industry Association of America." I know you guys have tendency to call yourself "the world" but it doesn't make it true. E.g. Japan makes thousands of CD titles every year and their sales were not counted.

  30. Physical media by AHuxley · · Score: 2

    Something a big company can't find sinful.
    Who wants to find their digital music fully curated due to politics?

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  31. Re: Yo EditorDavid, you Silly Fudgepacker! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd rather be smoking dope than smoking cock you pair of dupshits.

  32. ZERO songs are purchased on itunes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    on itunes you dont buy music... you rent it.

  33. i haven't bought an album since 2001. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and even then, that was a couple of used imports off ebay. no, not pirating music either. i just don't give a fuck about current music.

  34. Call me cheap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why should I pay extotion rates? Why would I buy single tracks on iTunes at $2 each (or more) when I can wait for sales and buy whole CD albums with 20-30 songs on them for $9 to $15?

    Sure, I may not like *every* track on an album, but if I'm buying an album for an artist there's a good chance I'll like most of the tracks on it.

  35. Are the Results Drvien by Demographic? by ytene · · Score: 2

    The data quoted by the OP, which comes from bgr.com, suggests that download sales fell precipitously in 2018, whilst physical CD and vinyl sales were less impacted, even though they, too, fell.

    The linked article doesn't break down their headline numbers in to demographics, but when this topic is covered elsewhere, there is a stated generalization that download sales are driven more by milennials, whilst legacy formats are driven mainly by older consumers. [It's tempting to take this one step further and observe that there may be a direct correlation between the age of the buyer and the format purchased, but I'm less convinced by that].

    So perhaps the data quoted is telling us something else, which is that maybe milennials cut back significantly on their music purchases last year? That, if substantiated, would be a much more interesting angle to cover, because that one element marks a significant change in trend. Then the question becomes: is that a one-off, or is that something deeper?

    In a way it's a shame that formats like SACD and DVD-A didn't catch on in the same way that the video industry has managed a more successful transition from tape to DVD to BluRay to 4K. Perhaps this says more about our lifestyles [you actually have to sit still and watch a movie, whilst music can now be enjoyed "on the move" far more easily than ever before] than it does about our desire for higher quality music.

    Last point - on the slip of CD sales... I still purchase physical CDs and will continue to do so for as long as they are available. However, if I can obtain it, I now prefer to purchase high definition audio (say 192-bit, 96kHz) if the mastered copies are being offered for sale. It would be interesting to know whether the data underpinning the bgr.com article includes these "hi-def" sales in their download numbers (given they are almost exclusively offered by specialist retailers). I know several music-enthusiast friends who are making the same switch when they can.

    1. Re:Are the Results Drvien by Demographic? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      , I now prefer to purchase high definition audio (say 192-bit, 96kHz) if the mastered copies are being offered for sale.

      192bit? Good luck finding those for sale. Maybe you should settle for 24bit, 16 million discreet values is enough, trust me.

    2. Re:Are the Results Drvien by Demographic? by ytene · · Score: 1

      LoL, yes. Typo. Doh.

  36. only iTunes? by sad_ · · Score: 1

    They only look to iTunes to come to this conclusion?
    Maybe +5 years ago this was a somewhat ok-ish approach, but these days?
    So many more and better (and cheaper) sites are available to purchase & download music from.

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  37. which decade did best by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and if people are not downloading as much, what are they purchasing? i seriously doubt its anything from this decade...

  38. I think I can Spot(ify) the reason ...

  39. Simple... by erp_consultant · · Score: 1

    When I buy a CD or Vinyl album the music is mine. I can make backup copies of it. I can lend it to friends. When I "buy" a digital copy of the music I am subject the terms and conditions or Apple or Amazon or whomever I get it from. They dictate the terms of usage. In that sense I don't really own the music. It's more like a local rental of the songs.

    Given the choice I will either just stream the music or buy a physical copy of it.

    1. Re:Simple... by RalphSlate · · Score: 1

      Bingo. I "bought" a movie on Amazon a while ago. Percy Jackson or something. Watched it a couple of times with the kids. No one has any interest in it anymore.

      So what can I do with it? Can I resell it? Nope. Can I give it to a relative who now has young kids? Nope. Can I leave it to my children? Uh uh. The "sale" of that item to me was fictional. It was a perpetual license that I have to keep track of. If Amazon "loses" that somehow, I have to remember that I had it, I have to provide some form of proof that I "own" this.

      I would also be willing to bet that somehow Amazon will find a way to "revoke" this perpetual license from me before I die.

      For that reason, I prefer to buy physical copies of everything. Maybe I won't be able to use them in 30 years because the mechanism to play them will have evolved, but I can at least move them along to someone else and let them enjoy the experience.

    2. Re:Simple... by erp_consultant · · Score: 1

      I recall some time ago that Amazon removed books from the Kindle library that they deemed to be offensive for some reason. All well and good...except that some people had actually purchased them and woke up one day to find them gone. Even if Amazon gives you a credit for the book I don't feel it is their right to reach in to my library and remove something. I will determine if the book is offensive, not them.

      This stuff happens all the time. I read the other day where there is a movement to rename John Wayne airport in California. What happens if someone decides that the lyrics to a song are suddenly offensive?

    3. Re:Simple... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      IIRC it wasn't because the e-books were offensive, it was because they were unlicensed copies that Amazon didn't actually have the right to distribute.

      Nevertheless, when I buy e-books I always apply de-DRM tools so that I will still have a readable copy no matter what happens to the original.

  40. Re:Can confirm, bought lot's of physical media in by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Rasperry Pi with Hi Fi Berry as a player (check)

    I too purchase physical media, rip it and then play it on my devices at home and on the go.
    However I have never heard of the Raspberry Pi Hi Fi.
    Thanks for the tip, I will definitely check this out!

  41. Re:1st by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1st

    1st what?

  42. The irony is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The artists don't care. They hardly make anything off of music sales, regardless of medium.

  43. Re:Radioparadise.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    www.radioparadise.com

    Three free streams, nicely curated, no ads.

    Even an uncompressed stream for those with good speakers.

  44. Well duh by slashmydots · · Score: 1

    Itunes - DRM and you can do next to nothing with your purchase and it's not transferable and if your hard drive dies, it doesn't exactly work like Steam. CDs - rip to MP3 and do anything, bring them anywhere, you have a physical backup, and any device can use them. It's an obvious choice.

  45. Backing up from iTunes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It'd be cool if Apple would allow that without the DRM restrictions. Or shit, make a damn mobile app that authenticates your purchases. I want to put my TV Shows I bought on iTunes (when they were free, hello Crazy Ex-girlfriend season 1) to watch on my phone or TV (via Chromecast?) at my own leisure.

    I can't, with iTunes DRM getting in the way. It's a damn video file, why does it need to phone home to iTunes just to see that I own it when it's already on my harddrive. Surely there is a way for them to authenticate it and let me do what I want with it after I've purchased and downloaded it for offline purposes.

    Sadly, the MPAA/RIAA and the like along with Apple are too worried about piracy and their bottom line than to be consumer friendly, so I don't blame folks for getting physical discs to rip or resort to piracy to avoid this shit.

  46. Not impressive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So all forms of physical media just beat one outlet for digital?

  47. Re:Can confirm, bought lot's of physical media in by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What do you backup your NAS to?

  48. You dont own digital purchases by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If they're not stored locally.

    1. Re:You dont own digital purchases by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You still don't own them. One defining feature of ownership is the ability to sell it.

      numbnuts

  49. Re:1st by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Knock knock....

  50. Re:Can confirm, bought lot's of physical media in by jon3k · · Score: 1

    HiFi Berry looks really interesting, thanks for sharing that. Do you have any feedback after having owned it? Particular model you would recommend? Would you purchase again?

  51. Owning vs. Streaming by McFortner · · Score: 1

    When you own the physical copies, you can put the rips on your NAS and stream it to your heart's content without having to pay monthly fees.

    See, that's the advantage of OWNING your media vs. RENTING it through streaming services. When you rent it (which is all streaming services is) you are at the mercy of their policies, including raising their monthly rates and/or removing items for whatever reason they see fit to give, or no reason at all. Let's see them do that with my physical copies.

    And did I mention that I only pay for the music ONCE vs. monthly rental?

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