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What It's Like To Smoke Salvia For Science (vice.com)
Slashdot reader and Motherboard writer dmoberhaus was the final participant in the world's first brain imaging study on salvinorin A, the psychoactive chemical in salvia divinorum. He wrote about what it's like to participate in a psychedelic drug trial, and why he volunteered to smoke the world's least favorite hallucinogen for science. Here's an excerpt from his report: I was first introduced to salvia when I was a freshman in high school, and by the time I graduated I had smoked it about a dozen times. In retrospect, I would not describe a single one of those experiences as "pleasant," "enjoyable," or "fun." The last time I used salvia was almost a decade ago, and during that trip I became convinced that I had been irreversibly transformed into a suspension bridge. Good times. Despite a history of bad experiences with the substance, I volunteered for the Johns Hopkins salvinorin A study out of a suspicion that salvia probably had more to offer than what I experienced in high school. As a teen, each of my salvia experiences was under less than ideal conditions -- usually at a party or in a park after curfew. These sorts of situations lend themselves to paranoia and anxiety, which don't mix well with a strong dissociative hallucinogen. I figured if the settings were changed to a relaxed environment where I was surrounded by medical professionals, perhaps the nature of the trip would as well.
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For the first salvia session I laid on the couch and donned an eye mask while [Manoj Doss, a postdoctoral researcher who specializes in memory] sat at the far end of the room with the smoking apparatus. The simple device consisted of a small glass bulb with a plastic hose connected to the top and was described to me as an "FDA-approved crack pipe." Along the bottom of the bulb was a barely noticeable residue of a white crystalline substance, which I was informed was one dose of 99.9% pure salvinorin A. I was given one end of the hose and instructed to begin a 45-second long inhale as Doss vaporized the salvinorin A with a butane torch. At the same time, Clifton began to play a new age soundtrack through speakers and came to put his hand on my leg to ground me during the trip. When the 45 seconds were up, I exhaled and felt the effects of the salvia almost immediately.
The first thing I noticed was the feeling of my body dissolving. Shortly after I began feeling the physical effects, the hallucinations began. I felt as though my head had split in two and a patterned stream began flowing from both sides of my face. This stream was a "harlequin pattern" of large brown and white diamonds that flowed away from me and began to form the "boundary" of an infinite three-dimensional space. These diamonds continued to tessellate to an infinite point and I felt as though I were suspended above this expanse, hanging like a figure head hangs off the bow of a ship. Throughout the trip, I remember being overcome by the profound beauty of the scene I was witnessing. If I tried to focus, I could remember that in base reality I was in a room in Johns Hopkins, but that didn't alleviate the feeling of being in an entirely separate reality, as though I were sitting in a container that cordoned me off from the 'normal' world. In summary, Oberhaus said "the experience was quite pleasant." He added: "I only had a brief moment of panic when it seemed like one of the notes in the new age soundtrack had been held for far too long. I began to worry that time was dilating and that I might be trapped in this space for eternity. When the music progressed to the next note, however, the panic quickly subsided and time resumed its normal cadence."
Oberhaus then took a higher dose the following day in an MRI machine. While the first dose of salvia in the machine didn't produce anything special, likely because it was a placebo, a very low dose, or that he had made some error during inhalation, the second dose in the machine resulted in a slightly less intense trip than the very first dose. "The reason, I think, was that the loud and persistent sounds of the MRI machine kept me tethered to the outside world and I was unable to fully immerse myself in the world that the salvia was generating," writes Oberhaus. "Still, I would describe it as a pleasant and visually striking experience."
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For the first salvia session I laid on the couch and donned an eye mask while [Manoj Doss, a postdoctoral researcher who specializes in memory] sat at the far end of the room with the smoking apparatus. The simple device consisted of a small glass bulb with a plastic hose connected to the top and was described to me as an "FDA-approved crack pipe." Along the bottom of the bulb was a barely noticeable residue of a white crystalline substance, which I was informed was one dose of 99.9% pure salvinorin A. I was given one end of the hose and instructed to begin a 45-second long inhale as Doss vaporized the salvinorin A with a butane torch. At the same time, Clifton began to play a new age soundtrack through speakers and came to put his hand on my leg to ground me during the trip. When the 45 seconds were up, I exhaled and felt the effects of the salvia almost immediately.
The first thing I noticed was the feeling of my body dissolving. Shortly after I began feeling the physical effects, the hallucinations began. I felt as though my head had split in two and a patterned stream began flowing from both sides of my face. This stream was a "harlequin pattern" of large brown and white diamonds that flowed away from me and began to form the "boundary" of an infinite three-dimensional space. These diamonds continued to tessellate to an infinite point and I felt as though I were suspended above this expanse, hanging like a figure head hangs off the bow of a ship. Throughout the trip, I remember being overcome by the profound beauty of the scene I was witnessing. If I tried to focus, I could remember that in base reality I was in a room in Johns Hopkins, but that didn't alleviate the feeling of being in an entirely separate reality, as though I were sitting in a container that cordoned me off from the 'normal' world. In summary, Oberhaus said "the experience was quite pleasant." He added: "I only had a brief moment of panic when it seemed like one of the notes in the new age soundtrack had been held for far too long. I began to worry that time was dilating and that I might be trapped in this space for eternity. When the music progressed to the next note, however, the panic quickly subsided and time resumed its normal cadence."
Oberhaus then took a higher dose the following day in an MRI machine. While the first dose of salvia in the machine didn't produce anything special, likely because it was a placebo, a very low dose, or that he had made some error during inhalation, the second dose in the machine resulted in a slightly less intense trip than the very first dose. "The reason, I think, was that the loud and persistent sounds of the MRI machine kept me tethered to the outside world and I was unable to fully immerse myself in the world that the salvia was generating," writes Oberhaus. "Still, I would describe it as a pleasant and visually striking experience."
It's "lay", not "laid".
You had lain on a couch before you made that mistake.
WTF is this? Who cares? Some dopey Millennial took some hipster drug as a kid and got a job at Vice writing blogs at $100 a pop and gets paid to take drug trials because he can't make his rent.
I can't be the only one that read about 1/3 of TFS before working out I'd be reading saliva instead of salvia... /mutter
How the fuck is there a new hallucinogen and I haven't heard about it? I must be getting old.
Well, sign me the hell up.
You are welcome on my lawn.
This guy sounds like a straight edge fool.
Mom must be so proud.
Let's face it, you just like sucking dick.
Yours I imagine would reconsider that. "I raised a bickerer"
That'll do pig.
Sometime in the 90s I had read about salvia divinorum on the druggy side of the internet. A few months later I was wandering around one of those witchcraft stores with a girlfriend and noticed they had diviner's sage - the literal translation of salvia divinorum. I asked some witch lady if that was salvia and she said "No, but they have some across the street." They gentleman there told me it was to be used for incense only but that it would be necessary to use a torch style lighter . . . on the incense.
I enjoyed occasionally smoking unenhanced leaf - laughing uncontrollably while slowly sliding off the cough is quite fun - but there was enough of a dysphoric undertone (a kappa agonist!) that I never had any desire to try the extracts. I'm glad salvinorum A is being studied, though, as it really is very novel and I'm sure there plenty of medical insights to be gained from such a unique molecule. There's absolutely nothing like it.
After you take a hit, it's similar to the wa-na-na-na-na-na endless loop like you get from nitrous, then you get shrinking tunnel vision, and as you go from seeing with your eyes, to seeing with your mind, it feels like someone is running your face through a zipper.
It seems like you can feel the salviated (lol) blood make its way through your bloodstream. Sort of a slightly warm feeling progressing through you, but when it makes it to your capillaries, it feels like someone blasted you with a flamethrower, but from the inside!
It can really set you up to have a bad trip when it's kicking in... But after you make it through zipper face and the blood boiling beneath your skin... Then it's fun for a few minutes.
I have seen a few people try and get "as high as possible" on it by hitting it over and over until they can't hit it anymore, and they were absolutely miserable for about 10 minutes. Super fucking high, but not having fun at all.
DMT is way better (supposedly)
There is also ordinary salvia or sage which is a foodstuff and a guy was smoking it (with tobacco. here almost everyone will mix non-tobacco stuff with tobacco, if we'll be smoking that is not tobacco)
So he gave me some (like 20 grams), and another time he or somebody else gave me some too. It has some fun taste and dilutes your tobacco. It probably gives lung cancer. They don't sell it in our supermarkets unlike basil, thyme, parsley etc. but according to wikipedia is found in British, US and Italian cuisine.
I think it has no buzz or hallucinations and I perfectly like it like that thanks. I never sought it since but I guess I would like to taste it in pasta, tomato sauce etc. and to smoke it again.
Roger Stone is well known in the swinger/hotwife/cuck scene. A few years ago, I was Omaha for a work conference. Browsing craigslist, I responded to a couple MF4M personals and ended up invited to a key party. At the hotel I was staying in LOL. A swinging was also holding a conference there. You can bet your ass my coworkers didn't see me for the next 3 days!
Anyhow, I'm standing around naked, talking politics to this older guy (truth be told, too many of them were older). Anyhow, he says "you got a great cock. Do you mind if I watch while you fuck my wife?" I didn't realize who he was at the time, but it was Roger Stone.
I'm sure his obituary will talk about dirty tricks or wikileaks or russians. I'll always remember him as a kind old man, wearing a assless chaps and jerking off while I nut his wife.
How many of those are just permanently brain damaged and still writing articles about how people should behave?
...I do not inhale ?
Heard that story already. Stop shit posting. Go away
If you want to undo it, swipe your hand twice on that knee, as if you were dusting it.
Hey guys, just checking to see if there's big money in this salvia business, because I'm all about that big money! My mom and dad said believe in yourself and you'll succeed so that's what I'm doing here, believing in that big money salvia. Always thought that saying was cornier than Monsanto, but at least it worked out for them, since my dad believed in dating his secretary and mom believed that dad could hold his breath under water for ten minutes. But hey, win some, lose some, what can I say? That's what her lawyer said at least. Anyway I just want to let you all know that salvia has NO NEGATIVE SIDE EFFECTS, at least not my salvia, so go ahead and place your orders at goatse.cx. Smoke so much and you'll forget FDR did 9/11 to punish Bush for putting fluoride in the water. I mean, maybe he did, maybe he didn't, all I know is what they told me at the FEMA camp. But whatever they tell me, at least they're so nice, making sure I get extra helpings of the mind control Jello. Or maybe it was the ice cream, I don't know, probably ate the wrong one, guess I'll just ride this (_)_):::::::::::D rocket ship to Nibiru!
You're going to sever your psychic connection to your body and get possessed, didn't you listen to Alex Jones
I watched some friends of mine use it and decided it's not for me.
It's a fucking shamanic drug, meant to be taken by people who have had life-long training in navigating the scary spiritual dimension whose objective physical properties have been 100% replaced by subjective imagery, poetry and raw emotion. Witch doctors can barely handle this shit, but it's their job to travel to these deep corners of the unconscious psyche and come out with some sort of interpretation of the whole mess of emotions and information that are bestowed upon them.
Anyone wanting to try salvia would be wise to learn the difference between a psychedelic hallucination and a true hallucination. After that, they'd be wise to give up on the idea of taking shamanic drugs, unless that's what they want to dedicate their entire life towards.
You wanna trip balls, do some mushrooms. Hell, do some LSD, it'll be a lot easier compared to salvia. LSD lasts about 12 hours, so at least if you're hating it, you can look at the clock and calm yourself down knowing it'll be over eventually. Salvia completely replaces your perception of time (as well as your perception of everything else you think you know, including your five senses) and can make you experience tens, hundreds, even thousands of years over the course of 15 minutes. This could be wonderful, like when Picard experienced a whole new lifetime and learned how to play the flute. This could be terrifying, like when O'Brien spent 20 "years" in a mental jail.
How about actually providing a summary instead of copy pasting a bunch of TFA?
Wait for it...
Nerds tend to like psychoactive ingredients.
Also what about all the pharmaceutical nerds out there? You don't this is exciting to them?
Hint: there's more to the world than computer nerds. Get over it. We are just a sub genre.
The benefits are that you are not consuming all the products of burning, that posses almost all the negatives from the smoking process. As for now, if you to continue smoking, it's better to vape. But you have to get some quality vape products like www.deliciousnimbus.com that has the good stuff. Give it a try tho.
The benefits are that you are not consuming all the products of burning, that posses almost all the negatives from the smoking process. As for now, if you to continue smoking, it's better to vape. But you have to get some quality vape products like www.deliciousnimbus.com that has the good stuff. Give it a try tho.