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To Keep Track of World's Data, You'll Need More Than a Yottabyte (wsj.com)
An anonymous reader shares a report: In 10 or 15 years, Dr. Brown, who is head of metrology at the National Physical Laboratory in the U.K., anticipates the amount of computerized data worldwide will exceed 1 yottabyte in size, and without expanding the list of prefixes, there will be no way to talk about the next great chunk of numbers. Even worse, dilettantes could fill the void by popularizing glib prefixes such as bronto or hella -- terms that have already won fans. Without professional intervention, Dr. Brown fears, the next numerical prefix could become the Boaty McBoatface of weights and measures.
[...] For the record, there is an argument to be made for adopting a prefix like bronto: giga and tera are based on the Greek words for "giant" and "monstrous." Why not make bronto, named for the brontosaurus, official, perhaps along with tyranno, stego, colosso or even yeti? Dr. Brown is sympathetic to the argument but unconvinced. Instead, he proposes four prefixes that adhere to recent naming conventions [Editor's note: the link may be paywalled; an alternative source was not available.]: ronna and quecca for octillion (27 zeros) and nonillion (30 zeros), along with ronto and quecto for their fractional counterparts, octillionth and nonillionth. Like the latest sanctioned prefixes, Dr. Brown's proposals are loosely related to Latin and Greek words for numbers (in this case, nine and 10). And like most of the prefixes, his suggestions end in "a" or "o." But the process of expanding, or even amending, the official measurements is lengthy.
[...] For the record, there is an argument to be made for adopting a prefix like bronto: giga and tera are based on the Greek words for "giant" and "monstrous." Why not make bronto, named for the brontosaurus, official, perhaps along with tyranno, stego, colosso or even yeti? Dr. Brown is sympathetic to the argument but unconvinced. Instead, he proposes four prefixes that adhere to recent naming conventions [Editor's note: the link may be paywalled; an alternative source was not available.]: ronna and quecca for octillion (27 zeros) and nonillion (30 zeros), along with ronto and quecto for their fractional counterparts, octillionth and nonillionth. Like the latest sanctioned prefixes, Dr. Brown's proposals are loosely related to Latin and Greek words for numbers (in this case, nine and 10). And like most of the prefixes, his suggestions end in "a" or "o." But the process of expanding, or even amending, the official measurements is lengthy.
It has always seemed a bit arbitrary to label something as "the world's data". You could always add the history of every cache on every processor on the planet to your definition of "data" and have a much larger number.
A Future, Back To The, reference this is, no?
- Yotta
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NSA and GCHQ spending per year?
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
Yottabyte? That's a lotta byte!
Why make a new prefix for each power of ten unless (and until) it really is used often? Just make a generic term, such as "24th order of magnitude". In fact, I believe that's already used. We can even have a shorthand: "24 oom bytes". To remember it, think of a cow mooing in reverse.
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What's wrong with that? The rejection of "Boaty McBoatface" was a stuffed-shirt reaction. Going with that name could have helped increase funding even via increased awareness.
BoatyBytes, McFaceBytes, sounds fine with me. The existing names are already silly, or at least magnets for jokes.
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... ancient languages.
When we define the words and terms that are yet undefined, we can start fresh. We don't need to be chained to the past. And why not have numbers that sound cool to say that we can associate with things people know about it? This cult of ancient and dead languages is pretty disturbing. Since the naming convention is based on latin words for numbers is arbitrary in and of itself.
I'm a wingless being, you insensitive clod!
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The Hellabyte.
In honour of the great profit... Eric Cartman.
First law of people: People are generally stupid.
There's a reason we created terms like "ton" to describe considerable weight. Childrens electronic toys can hold multiple Libraries of Congress these days, so let's stop pretending that "mega-ultra-giga-bazillion" is going to impress anyone.
Hell, if we're gonna get stupid about this, then why not measure each individual bit? I'm sure Mathy McMathface can get piss drunk on new number names with an 8x power factor.
Yes, there's a lot of data in the world. We get it. Now perhaps we can grow up and create a reasonable unit of measure.
Yottitatard? Yottard? Yottetard?
Gobble gobble
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The names must apply to all forms of measures and metrics.
But, if the Bureau of Geeks and Nerds has its say, the names will be:
whata-byte
abigga-byte
onthisa-byte
myassa-byte
heybitchdont-byte
On the serious side, the current system requires us to remember three names or prefixes for each triad (each 10^3).
For example:
one-million or one-millionth, versus one mega-meter versus one micro-meter. Million-mega-micro-.
one-thousand or one-thousandth, versus one kilo-liter or one milli-liter. Thousand-kilo-milli-.
For Europeans and others speaking Latin or Romance languages, the cardinal number names may be closer to the multiplier-divider prefixes, but it is still a cumbersome system.
For the higher order new numbers, why not make them with a uniform naming convention.
For instance, the common root name, then tillo- and tetto-.
Examples:
10^27 = one octillion trees, one octillo-meter, one octetto-meter.
10^30 = one nonillion beans, one nonillo-newton, one nonetto-joule.
10^39 = one dodecillion electrons, one dodecillo-farad, one dodecetto-ohm.
Instead of having unique initials as abbreviations, such MB, mm, cm, km, Gb, etc., try this, using "D" for "decade":
My new computer has 4 of 10^27 byte chips = 4-D27B of memory.
The distance to so and so galaxy is one nonillion meters away, or D30m away.
Or, something like that.
It just seems too cumbersome to remember too many contrived names and disparate prefixes for ever bigger numbers that no one can really comprehend or has the time to recall in the middle of a sentence that is meant to be fluent.
1.21 jiggawatts, at 88 mph.
Well, other than using powers of 1,024 (or powers of 1,000 for the pedantic types who are unfamiliar with base 2.)
I'm familiar with base 2. So I know that hard drives typically allocate blocks of size 2^9 or 2^12, and I know that there is nothing else in a hard drive related to powers of two.
Which means that insisting on using powers of 1024 notation is like demanding that we count everything related to the NBA in base 5, since basketball teams have 5 members.
(Actually, power-of-1024 notation is even worse than that, since it uses a *mixture* of various mutually incompatible 1024 powers combined with decimal fractions, all of which makes Roman Numerals look practical by comparison.)
Great Scott! This is heavy. :P
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What's wrong with Octilabyte and Nonilabyte?
Besides nothing.
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kaijubytes ... because they do!
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