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Alphabet's AI-Powered Chrome Extension Hides Toxic Comments (engadget.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Engadget: Alphabet offshoot Jigsaw is launching a Chrome extension designed to help moderate toxic comments on social media. The new open-source tool, dubbed "Tune," builds on the machine learning smarts introduced in Jigsaw's "Perspective" tech to help sites like Facebook and Twitter set the "volume" of abusive comments. Using "filter mix" controls, users can either turn toxic comments off altogether (what's known as "zen mode") or show selective types of posts containing attacks, insults, or profanity. Tune also works with Reddit, YouTube and Disqus. Jigsaw admits that Tune is still an experiment, meaning it may not spot all forms of toxicity or could hide non-offensive comments. "We're constantly working to improve the underlying technology, and users can easily give feedback right in the tool to help us improve our algorithms," C.J. Adams, Jigsaw product manager, wrote in a blog post.

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  1. "Don't disturb my thought bubble!" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Also known as the, "I'm not mature enough to have my beliefs challenged!" SNOWFLAKE mode

    1. Re:"Don't disturb my thought bubble!" by lgw · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Also known as the, "I'm not mature enough to have my beliefs challenged!" SNOWFLAKE mode

      Or, more concisely, "rightthink mode". Soon to be mandated in China.

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    2. Re:"Don't disturb my thought bubble!" by dristoph · · Score: 2

      It's really incredible how quickly a product developed in the US, by a US-based company, to sell to US-based culture, automatically gets attributed to China. Almost like the US is quite sophisticated at directing the national narrative such that even our own output is reattributed to our global rivals in less time it takes to think a thought. And if Slashdot moderation points mean anything, this happens to applause!

    3. Re:"Don't disturb my thought bubble!" by TimothyHollins · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I very much doubt the AI can spot challenging views. It is however capable of identifying most slurs and invective, making it effective in reducing the number of low-content posts and pointless insults. Rest assured that you are still free to post Trump propaganda or whatever you wish as long as you are capable of doing so without adding personal attacks.

    4. Re: "Don't disturb my thought bubble!" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You might just consider that "prove you're not a racist" isn't even a consideration for well-adjusted people. Voting against people who publicly attack you, on the other hand, is just common sense.

    5. Re:"Don't disturb my thought bubble!" by lgw · · Score: 3

      Make an account, or stop your whining. The tools are right there in front of you, it's on you if you ignore them.

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  2. Glasses by religionofpeas · · Score: 4, Funny

    I hear they are working on improving the technology so it can be used for peril sensitive sunglasses.

  3. Helloo filter bubble! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    1. Toxic to whom? Who but me can decide that for me? (Nobody, if I'm still an individual and not a passive-thinking swarm entity.)
    2. Why would I want to ignore them, given that there are still real people behind them. (Even when they use automation to repeat them.) Those people have a reason they post that. Maybe they are mentally ill. Maybe they have been traumatized. Maybe they are right, but contradict our society's wrong expected norms. Maybe we just don't like how they make us feel. Like disfigured people.

    MAYBE then we should fix the underlying causes, instead of looking away and letting it grow, becoming a problem for Tomorrow Homer.
    Maybe those comments remind us that we should lift our lazy asses and fix this rotten world that is broken only because we don't do shit about it!
    Maybe we want to ignore that we're ashamed of that too.
    Maybe, .. hopefully, ... that won't work.

  4. Just what we need. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Great, just what we need: MORE silencing of dissenting voices. This time under the cry of 'toxicity.'

    Toxic: adjective - any subject, word, phrase, or idea which a person of left-leaning political views disagrees with.

    Except when it's leftists poking their noses into (or destroying) right-leaning areas, it's not toxicity, it's 'diversity of thought' and "you need your echo chambers broken up to prevent radicalization!!!"

  5. I have mixed feelings on this. by jellomizer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The problem is with every 10,000 trolls out there is there one spark of genius, with an opposing idea, that is well thought through and should be considered.
    While I would like that that idea to be shared to help diversify our frame of thought, there is the other 9,999 trolls, just meant to enrage us, think it is a stupid joke, repeating the same old disprove message, and lie to us enough times where we think it is true.

    Sometimes we need negative speech, we need to alert people of a major problem, even if it hurts someone feelings, or goes against the cultural norm. Not all problems can be solved with a careful compromise, sometimes you are right and the greater population is wrong.
    However probability is the case is you are in the wrong, and you are just trolling.

    I would rather see, increased education in spotting fake news and trolling, learning to ignore or block message. Learning to be conscious of your personal biases, and not jumping onto the bandwagon, just because you bias says this is good, as you go on the sliding scale toward evil.

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    1. Re:I have mixed feelings on this. by AmiMoJo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The problem is with every 10,000 trolls out there is there one spark of genius

      The is the same argument used against email spam filters. 1 in 10,000 mails might be important and you will end up missing it. Even so, most people prefer to have the spam filter on.

      Some people won't use this filter. Some, perhaps those with kids or more limited time or who just don't want to deal with trolls today, will turn it on. That's fine, it's not their responsibility to listen to everything being said. For those who want to browsing at -1 is available.

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    2. Re:I have mixed feelings on this. by jellomizer · · Score: 4, Informative

      It is when it becomes a personal attack.

      For example if you call the person stupid for their point of view, make assumptions of their education and parentage, sexual preference...

      You can disagree with someone without trying to dehumanize them, and also trying to dehumanize a group of people.

      In the 2016 Election Clintons biggest Faux Pas was calling Trump supporters "deplorables" because that was trolling on her end and stating "This group of people I don't care about their concerns and I will classify them as sub human" While Trump in my opinion is the bigger troll, he was playing a different game, Trumps game was to get People to Hate Clinton (Who has a lot of political baggage), while Clinton game was to make more people like her. Her statement, caused a lot of people on the fence to dislike her more then ever.

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    3. Re:I have mixed feelings on this. by ClickOnThis · · Score: 2

      Your ironically fact-free post shows that you are far more "bent" than anyone else in this thread.

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  6. Re:Make it mandatory for SJWs by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Outrage is big business on YouTube, they will never ban that. People like Carl Benjamin have popular weekly shows that are nothing but outrage. One single tweet expressing mild concern at a trailer spawned nearly 100 outrage videos, and that's pretty normal.

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    const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
    SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
  7. re: downvoted nigh instantly by macraig · · Score: 2

    Still waiting....

  8. Echo chamber by DarkOx · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So the big fear is that these 'online communities' become echo chambers, that re-enforce ideas. The response of the high minded folks at Google apparently is to make sure you can take your echo chamber with you everywhere you go.

    What is a toxic comment anyway. My guess is its any idea Google execs don't agree with.

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    1. Re:Echo chamber by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      There is a demo of the system with examples of comments that are considered "loud" here: https://www.perspectiveapi.com...

      Scroll down a bit. You can drag the slider around to see the filter in action. In the example climate change skeptics are allowed even on the most conservative filter setting, as long as they can express themselves in civil language.

      On the US election example even putting the slider to about 75% still shows the "your[sic] a socialist snowflake!" comment.

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      const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
      SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
  9. Re:Who said "help them"? by omnichad · · Score: 2

    And what part of that requires reading their online comments?

  10. perfect for a democracy! by argStyopa · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm sure this won't insulate people even FURTHER into their own personalized bubbles of self-confirmatory groupthink.

    Hint: in a democracy, sometimes people say shit you disagree with

    and

    Hint: Sometimes people say things that hurt your feelings. Sometimes deliberately! It's your job as a grownup to ignore them.

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    1. Re:perfect for a democracy! by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      In a free democracy no-one forces you to listen to them. The telescreen has an off button.

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      const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
      SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
  11. Dragonfly? by njhunter · · Score: 2

    This is the fruit of research into Dragonfly for Google?

  12. Re:Make it mandatory for SJWs by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

    Outrage is big business on YouTube, they will never ban that.

    I wondered who would mention YouTube first. They could probably do a better job of blocking toxic comments by just shutting them off on YouTube entirely...

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  13. Re:Why tho by saider · · Score: 2

    Feature Request: an inverse mode

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