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Verizon Says 5G Network Will Cost Extra $10 a Month (go.com)

Verizon said on Tuesday that it will charge an additional $10 a month per smartphone for subscribers who want to add 5G speeds to their devices, the first major U.S. carrier to disclose pricing for the faster cellular service. From a report: Verizon says it'll flip the switch next month on a much-hyped, next-generation "5G" phone network. Service will start in parts of Chicago and Minneapolis. Verizon expects to have 5G in 30 cities this year. For now, few people will sign on. The offer is available only on unlimited plans, which currently start at $75 for one person or $160 for a family of four without 5G. On family plans, each 5G line would cost $10 extra. And network access will initially work with just one phone, Motorola's Moto Z3, with a special 5G attachment. Verizon will offer some promotions at first, including discounts on the phone and attachment and the first three months of 5G service free.

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  1. Extra per month by slaker · · Score: 2

    I'm pretty sure when I looked in to changing my US Provider, they wanted me to pay an extra $10/month for LTE as well. So does this fee replace the $10/month for LTE or are customers expected to pay $10/month for LTE AND $10/month for "5G?"

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    1. Re: Extra per month by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I will keep 4G. 4G is about serving faster speeds. 5G is about making it cheaper for them to do so. If they want to charge more for that? No, thanks.

    2. Re:Extra per month by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm pretty sure when I looked in to changing my US Provider, they wanted me to pay an extra $10/month for LTE as well. So does this fee replace the $10/month for LTE or are customers expected to pay $10/month for LTE AND $10/month for "5G?"

      pretty sure it'll be on top of the $10/m for LTE.

    3. Re:Extra per month by ctilsie242 · · Score: 1

      IIRC, the irony is that LTE is used regardless, and there isn't any 3G anymore. So, you wind up using the LTE network no matter what, as voice and data all go through the same path, as opposed to being split on 3G and earlier.

      The cellular provider I use isn't bad, although paying half as much per line with Spectrum Wireless is tempting.

    4. Re:Extra per month by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      IIRC, the irony is that LTE is used regardless, and there isn't any 3G anymore.

      I wasn't sure if the 3G indicator I see in some rural areas was real, but it seems the 3G shutdown hasn't come yet.

    5. Re:Extra per month by Solandri · · Score: 2

      More to the point, can you cancel your 4G service and go with only 5G for no extra fee? I mean if Verizon is going to charge you like it's a la carte pricing, then the customer should be able to select services like it's a la carte, right?

      From what I've been able to tell, 5G offers little benefit to the customer over 4G. At 5G speeds, you can blow through your monthly quota in a couple minutes. The benefit is mostly for the carrier - fewer bandwidth bottlenecks when lots of people are in the same tower cell (each person's data request takes less time to fulfill, getting them off the airwaves quicker and freeing up the bandwidth). Meaning Verizon won't get as many complaints about poor service when it's not due to technical problems.

    6. Re:Extra per month by StikyPad · · Score: 3, Informative

      Adding to that irony is that $10/mo is the price of an entire monthly LTE plan in many countries, including tethering, unlimited voice and text, unmetered messaging apps, etc. (albeit not unlimited data). The price of telecom service in the US and the rampant nickel-and-diming is outrageous from a consumer-centric perspective, although obviously it's outstanding from an investor perspective.

    7. Re:Extra per month by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      Adding to that irony is that $10/mo is the price of an entire monthly LTE plan in many countries

      This is because most American consumers actually don't care about lower prices for cell service.

      We have choices. T-Mobile costs less than either Verizon or AT&T. Yet it has only about 10% of the market, while Verizon and AT&T have about 30% each.

      Consumers are clearly voting with their dollars for features other than low price.

    8. Re:Extra per month by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nothing about Spectrum is tempting. Are you actually a Spectrum customer? I can't honestly believe anyone who already has experience with them would call their services, "tempting".

      Yes, I'd like to pay half as much for completely useless service worth nothing, then be overcharged and misbilled and blamed for their refusal to fix it.

    9. Re:Extra per month by Dog-Cow · · Score: 1

      Golan Telecom. 29nis/mo gives me unlimited everything, except data, which is capped at 6GB. Free international calling, too.

    10. Re: Extra per month by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Eventually the 5G service should come to MVNOs like PagePlus, then consumers will be able to avoid paying an ram and a leg for cell service.

    11. Re: Extra per month by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 1

      In healthy markets, service gets better as prices go down.

      In monopolistic (oligopolisitic) markets, the cost of providing services goes down while end user prices go up.

      Can't say I didn't warn you.

    12. Re:Extra per month by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty sure when I looked in to changing my US Provider, they wanted me to pay an extra $10/month for LTE as well. So does this fee replace the $10/month for LTE or are customers expected to pay $10/month for LTE AND $10/month for "5G?"

      If you're still paying the same amount now as when LTE was introduced for the same package then the answer is yes you will pay $10 more a month because you're a sucker.

    13. Re:Extra per month by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In India, we pay about $2 per month for 4G LTE with a 1.4 GB limit per day before throttling for the rest of the day. This includes unlimited calls and texts. I get upto 25 mbps speeds, obviously varies with time and location. Broadband is 50mbps for about $8 with 400 GB limit per month before throttling. I don't use it anymore since tethering to 4G phone is adequate for my current needs.

    14. Re:Extra per month by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      I'd switch to T-Mobile if they had rural coverage but they don't. Being able to use a phone as a phone is an interesting thing to classify as a 'feature'.

      VZW prepaid works where the others don't so they get my dirty money until a competitor comes along.

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    15. Re:Extra per month by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because T-Mobile has shit for coverage once you get outside big cities

    16. Re:Extra per month by Wulf2k · · Score: 1

      For reference to anybody unfamiliar:

      https://www.google.com/search?...

      8 USD.

    17. Re:Extra per month by bjwest · · Score: 1

      Golan Telecom. 29nis/mo gives me unlimited everything, except data, which is capped at 6GB. Free international calling, too.

      Yeah, but how many yachts does Golan Telecom CEO have? You got to think of the boat builders, dude. Why do you hate boat builders?

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  2. Mi-Fi unlimited by agressiv · · Score: 2

    Get 5G Mi-Fi unlimited and cable will be in for a wild ride. Competition would be good.

    1. Re:Mi-Fi unlimited by Anubis+IV · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Given that their current "unlimited" plans seem to cap out at 20GB of 4G LTE data before throttling you to 600 Kb/s for the remainder of the billing cycle, I don't think this is the disruption you were hoping for. At best, something like that plan may compete with rural WISPs or satellite, assuming the location even has 4G LTE coverage in the first place.

  3. $10 for what? by pintpusher · · Score: 3, Funny

    Is that for fake 5G or real 5G?

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    1. Re:$10 for what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

      The only real 5G is going to be when you're standing within 20m of a transmitter, completely alone, with no so much as a particularly anemic butterfly wing interrupting your line of sight, so I'm guessing the fake stuff.

    2. Re:$10 for what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I used to get crazy speed on 4G sitting on the 10th floor of a building right across the street from a verizon tower. Granted I could probably listen to streaming radio on my fillings there.

    3. Re: $10 for what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fluffy toe cheese

    4. Re:$10 for what? by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      Hey, you got 5G USA?
      The extra wide big series of tubes that have to be put together to make 5G work.
      Going to need a longer tube.

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    5. Re:$10 for what? by grep+-v+'.*'+* · · Score: 1

      $10 for what? .. Is that for fake 5G or real 5G?

      Fake 5G. REAL 5G will cost, ahem, $5G.

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  4. Break them up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's time to break these monopolies up.

  5. I don't understand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The only use case I can imagine that you'd need 5G speeds on your mobile would be if you're tethering.
    Can someone who knows tell me what people do on their mobile that requires gigabit speeds?

    1. Re:I don't understand by DickBreath · · Score: 1

      I sometimes tether with 4G and it works fine. It's not like I'm trying to download the Library Of Congress when tethering.

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    2. Re:I don't understand by jimbo · · Score: 1

      5G is about better channel management and dealing with congestion. It makes things better for the provider, enables support for more customers and might, under good conditions, give you better speeds in busy areas.

  6. Re:No 5G in Federal prison. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When you wake up tomorrow, you should decide to be happy instead of miserable. The choice is yours to make.

    Making exercising a thing you do 3 times a week. A stationary bike works well. Don't do too much too fast.

    Go outside. Walk around. Talk to people in real life. Your life is good. Start acting like it.

  7. ATT doesn't have to. by myth24601 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Since ATT found a way to upgrade their system to 5G without spending money, they won't have to jack rates up. Hope all you guys who were baggin' on ATT a few weeks ago about it will shut up now!

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    1. Re:ATT doesn't have to. by Scutter · · Score: 1

      They don't have to jack up rates, but of course they will. I mean, this is AT&T we're talking about, after all.

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    2. Re:ATT doesn't have to. by CoolCash · · Score: 1

      All ATT did was change their LTE symbol to 5E. There was no network upgrade to 5g. 5G uses extremely high frequencies in the 30 GHz to 300 GHz range, you need new antennas to handle those frequencies. Yes they will charge more since Verizon will be, but probably for 5E.

    3. Re:ATT doesn't have to. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      5G also works over traditional frequencies from 700Mhz and up.

  8. Re:No 5G in Federal prison. by DickBreath · · Score: 1

    Real or Fake 5G is actually a legitimate question. AT&T currently offers fake 5G service.

    > Making exercising a thing you do 3 times a week.

    The Windows support guy said I should Power Cycle at least twice a day.
    But I said, I don't even own a bike.

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  9. Typical by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    5G benefits primarily the carrier, not the subscriber. The chance that you'll see any faster speeds than 4G/LTE is very slim. The carrier however gets to reap benefits from lower traffic congestion meaning that they'll be able to cram more connections on the same hardware. And make the customers pay for it.

    1. Re:Typical by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      That's taking into account one theory and completely ignoring another. 5G classically has lower range meaning they need to provide at least the same amount of hardware to get the coverage. Combined with being able to cram more connections in the same hardware you will definitely see improvements in speed on congested hotspots.

      i.e.
      1. your phone may actually work when there's a football game at the local stadium.
      2. you will get blazingly fast speeds at off peak times.
      3. even if your speeds don't improve you still get the other benefits such as improved battery life at other times.

  10. And... when did we last get a price break on LTE? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Or has it been getting more expensive to operate the same old tech with the existing equipment, without actually expanding coverage?

    It's nice what being the only option with significant coverage in many rural and semi-urban communities lets you do with your pricing...

  11. Let me fix it for you. by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 2

    For a mere 10$ more, Verizon will call its current service 5G just for you.

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  12. Not excited by maxrate · · Score: 2

    I know "640k ought to be enough for anyone", but I'm happy with 4G (for the time being). Glad to see things are moving ahead with 5G, but for myself, I'm really not excited about it for some reason. No way I would spend a cent on it right now (hardware or network).

    1. Re:Not excited by dfm3 · · Score: 1

      I'm with you on this one. Maybe it's just my particular usage case, but I personally find 4G speeds to be more than enough for all of the many things that I use my phone for (and I use it very heavily). At some point not too many years ago the carriers switched from expanding their area (remember being bombarded with all those coverage maps in marketing materials?) to a focus on FAST! FAST! FAST! ...but only in certain urban centers and heavily populated areas.

      The rest of us, who live in moderately sized suburbs around average sized cities, are left with pockets of crappy to no coverage along our commutes or even have to deal with shrinking coverage area as the carriers decide not to replace failing hardware. About 3 years ago, we had to switch from AT&T because we suddenly got no signal at our house... 4 miles from the center of a town of 60,000... and came to find out that they had decided to decommission a nearby tower rather than replace the equipment when it failed.

      Sure, it's nice to sit in some international airport in a big city and watch a 500MB download complete at blazing speed, but my reaction is never "damn, that was fast" but instead, "damn, I just blew through half a gigabyte of data in a few minutes." I suppose there are users out there who want to be able to watch HD video streams, or who enjoy reaching their data cap within an hour, but what I want to see is more reliable, stable coverage in more places as I travel. Or, at the very least, to be able to rely on some "just enough" level of service without having to live within an urban center to get it.

    2. Re:Not excited by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It would be more sensible to put 10G Ethernet in every new PC/Notebook and support higher speed for these devices which are used for productive work as well (professional content creation).

  13. No, what they mean is... by mark-t · · Score: 1

    .... they want to *CHARGE* $10 more per month for it.

    I'm quite sure that the cost per subscriber to them would be negligible.

  14. What is the cap?? and is it opt in? by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    What is the cap?? and is it opt in?

    or with BYOD they can say your phone is classed as 5G pay must pay more?

  15. and to make 15GB the new cap for home use by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 2

    yes they want to push this as home internet $500 router needed.

  16. Re:No 5G in Federal prison. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > Making exercising a thing you do 3 times a week. - Seriously, if the President doesn't do it even once a week how the fuck are they telling me to be 3x as good? Go tell it to the fatass traitor. I get plenty of exercise, and not golf.

    And I will never, ever, not even as a joke, talk about trying to fuck my own daughter. Trump is a disgusting pedo moron.

  17. combing our company will make things cheaper by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They said. Tmobile will eat them alive very soon.

  18. Yeah, burn through your data limit faster by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    So they can charge you more for overages and extra data.

    Seriously? Only 'dumb fucks' (to quote Zuckerberg), would sign up for that shit.

    As it is now on 4G/4Glte, I already have to be careful that I dont load some fuckturd site with a shitpot of uncompressed images on it and burn through my 5GB data cap before I'm throttled to 2G.

    Yeah, no thanks Verizon. Go fuck yourself.

    1. Re:Yeah, burn through your data limit faster by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Only 'dumb fucks' (to quote Zuckerberg), would sign up for that shit.

      And he should know, too. He's the king of getting dumb fucks to sign up for shit.

  19. Extra $10/month now.... by DewDude · · Score: 1

    Required $10/month when they cut off the legacy network. This is not a premium charge...this is how they drastically increase prices. You start small...as an extra option. Then you make that option a requirement without adjusting prices. Good 'ol premium switcharoo.

  20. Re:No 5G in Federal prison. by DewDude · · Score: 1

    Remember when TMobile slammed AT&T for that despite the fact they sold a non 4G technology as 4G and acted like they were god for it?

  21. What for? by Dan+East · · Score: 1

    First off, it's already an "unlimited" plan, so this isn't to gain more data per month. So that just leaves speed. 4G is supposed to be 5 - 12 Mbps. So if you are "merely" getting the 4G you paid for, that is at least 5 Mbps. That's just about enough to stream 1080p video.... to a CELL phone. So what's the intention here? For people to hook their cell phone up to a 4k TV via HDMI and stream 4k video over 5G?

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    1. Re:What for? by PCM2 · · Score: 1

      I don't think phones are really the target market, in the long term. The carriers want to disrupt the incumbent cable companies, which often have a monopoly on high-speed data for any particular region. The carriers want to make it so your Wi-Fi router is pulling your internet from the air, instead.

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    2. Re:What for? by dryeo · · Score: 1

      I use LTE for home internet. It works fine usually though not sometimes in the evening. The big problem is the quota, which forces us to stream at lower bandwidth rates anyways.

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    3. Re:What for? by Richard_at_work · · Score: 1

      Where are you getting 5-12Mbps as 4G?! I'm getting 45-70Mbps from my 4G hotspot!

    4. Re:What for? by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      I got those speeds once from a public 4G tower - it was grand. At a popular beach resort area in NJ.

      Everywhere else I've been it's 10x slower. Probably distance to tower.

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  22. Is it safe? by js290 · · Score: 1

    Very sad situation and the school district wont budge.

    Parents Blame Elementary School’s Cell 5G Tower After 4th Student Diagnosed With Cancerhttps://t.co/PH0NAzmeHo

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  23. Huawei tax by Gabest · · Score: 1

    Privacy has a cost.

  24. See USA isn't 2 years behind China after all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    LOL

  25. Re:No 5G in Federal prison. by DickBreath · · Score: 1

    I don't remember that. But a thank you for pointing it out: Thanks!

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  26. Still same old Verizon by thexfile · · Score: 1

    A lot of people are thinking using 5G to replace cable internet.. Verizon will do everything to kill that idea.

  27. Tmobile will take more of their customers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    let them charge $10 more...